From low fame to high fame:

-Getting emails/messages from girls on the internet.
-Getting recognized in public
-Domestic groupie bangs
-Man asking to take a picture with you
-Foreign groupie bangs
-Girl asking to take a picture with you
-Man asking you for an autograph
-Girl asking you for an autograph
-Random girls giving you their number on napkins

Things in bold have not happened to me.

Surprisingly, the picture thing is a later-fame indicator. It has started to happen much more frequently late last year, and only in the past two months have a couple girls asked.

Romania has been a great testing ground for fame game. I'll have some conclusions about it after I leave.

The US is such a fame obsessed culture that you can make a freaking cottage industry running local fame.

I've met guys who only have to park their ass in front of a busy Starbucks to run fame game.

In some of the sadder places all you need to do to achieve that is to not end up knocking up some girl or get fat by age 23. The bar is depressingly low in most of the good ol USA

Quote: (04-28-2013 08:24 PM)EisenBarde Wrote:  

The US is such a fame obsessed culture that you can make a freaking cottage industry running local fame.

I've met guys who only have to park their ass in front of a busy Starbucks to run fame game.

In some of the sadder places all you need to do to achieve that is to not end up knocking up some girl or get fat by age 23. The bar is depressingly low in most of the good ol USA

True.

If Roosh had the same level of fame/news coverage in America (and he lived in America) that he has had in Eastern Europe, he would be fighting American groupies off with a stick. America is unique in that respect, but I still am eager to see what conclusions Roosh has come up with in regards to fame game since he essentially became a mini-celebrity in Romania.

A big issue is quality of groupies. They seem to be directly correlated to your fame level. So at my low level, I have a whole lot of 4s and 5s coming at me in Facebook/email.

If you have no game, fame is pretty amazing, but if you have game, and been using it to get laid with good quality for years, low level fame won't push your quality up, only quantity.

I think fame level has more to do with quantity than quality.

The circles you are famous in dictate the quality.

What about your ability to do things like pull threesomes or get public bangs or have chicks sending you filthy pictures?

Quote: (04-28-2013 08:41 PM)j r Wrote:  

What about your ability to do things like pull threesomes or get public bangs or have chicks sending you filthy pictures?

Haven't tried for the first two.

Pictures are harder to get. Girls are scared I will post it. But they do hope I write about them.

Fame being an American thing? You're crazy. I've never seen more of a disgraceful display of people falling over themselves than in Europe. In Japan fighters are almost gods to the point where just being friends with a fighter puts you as an object of desire.

Every girl secretly hopes to be the name of a famous song one day.

I want to be famous.

It's obvious that fame is the next step up from game typical game.

Everyone here should be striving to give off the vibe that they are famous.

Yo tuth start a band you can get mad PUZZZY from that. I got one bang as a direct result of it. (a girl said, omg I saw you play once and wanted to fuck you ever since. banged her like 2 years after I was out of the band). I had a girl also message me on an old social networking site once because she saw me play. I was retarded x5 because she was an 8 at least and my friends said she just bangs dudes in bands, but I pussed out instead. even her MOM smacked me on the ass (when she was drunk) and said "why haven't you made a move on my daughter yet pussy" her mom was hotter than she was.

Any time I played a house show there were tons of 16 year olds (I was 17) coming up and talking to me and my friends, but again I was retarded back then.

Shit, one of my more recent FBs started asking about my band.

Hell, you don't even have to be in a band, just get a picture of yourself LOOKING like you were on stage somewhere.

Quote: (04-28-2013 10:53 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

Yo tuth start a band you can get mad PUZZZY from that. I got one bang as a direct result of it. (a girl said, omg I saw you play once and wanted to fuck you ever since. banged her like 2 years after I was out of the band). I had a girl also message me on an old social networking site once because she saw me play. I was retarded x5 because she was an 8 at least and my friends said she just bangs dudes in bands, but I pussed out instead. even her MOM smacked me on the ass (when she was drunk) and said "why haven't you made a move on my daughter yet pussy" her mom was hotter than she was.

Any time I played a house show there were tons of 16 year olds (I was 17) coming up and talking to me and my friends, but again I was retarded back then.

Shit, one of my more recent FBs started asking about my band.

Hell, you don't even have to be in a band, just get a picture of yourself LOOKING like you were on stage somewhere.

That's interesting to me because I make a living playing music and I almost never get pussy from it.

I suspect it was because of how small the music scene actually was. 100 people at most so things traveled fast. It gives you status in that scene and all the girls want to date the top guy.
Plus we were all teenagers. I'd argue that 16 year old girls get much more worked up about a dude In a local band.


When I played some bars in a much larger city where I only knew a few people the love was much less. We only played 4 out of town shows and only once a chick came up to say hi. We couldn't even drink so it was pretty lame.

So I guess that's the same for you in nyc. Much bigger population of musicians to share the fame/status with.

Quote: (04-28-2013 10:53 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

Yo tuth start a band you can get mad PUZZZY from that. I got one bang as a direct result of it. (a girl said, omg I saw you play once and wanted to fuck you ever since. banged her like 2 years after I was out of the band). I had a girl also message me on an old social networking site once because she saw me play. I was retarded x5 because she was an 8 at least and my friends said she just bangs dudes in bands, but I pussed out instead. even her MOM smacked me on the ass (when she was drunk) and said "why haven't you made a move on my daughter yet pussy" her mom was hotter than she was.

Any time I played a house show there were tons of 16 year olds (I was 17) coming up and talking to me and my friends, but again I was retarded back then.

Shit, one of my more recent FBs started asking about my band.

Hell, you don't even have to be in a band, just get a picture of yourself LOOKING like you were on stage somewhere.

I'm planning out an artsy "band" I can do to get groupies. We'll play at art shows and shit like that. Think GG Allen without shooting up heroin, punk, racism and rape

Quote: (04-28-2013 10:46 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

I want to be famous.

You could always be Roosh's sidekick/umbrella holder:

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-Random girls giving you their number on napkins

I've had this happen and I'm the furthest thing from famous. I think it's about the same as women approaching you in the bar or club. It can happen.

I think the list is missing the word "consistently".

Male fame is a way for a woman to measure her attractiveness. If a famous man has his choice of any woman and he chooses her that must make her equal to his status.

This shit went down locally about a year back. Cats faking to be a celebrity and the predictable outcome, especially by the females.

I was thinking more like this:



I have a nice crew in DC.

Quote: (04-29-2013 02:36 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

You could always be Roosh's sidekick/umbrella holder:

Quote: (04-28-2013 08:15 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

From low fame to high fame:

-Getting emails/messages from girls on the internet.
-Getting recognized in public
-Domestic groupie bangs
-Man asking to take a picture with you

These 4 have happened to me, altough the messages from girls have been mostly uglies from twitter. I respond to them but not engage.

"Getting recognized" so far has been a few guys coming up to me and asking if I am David Germanico. I wont consider myself famous until a girl does the same thing.

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Yo tuth start a band you can get mad PUZZZY from that.

The Thuthy Puzzy Band.

I have some experience with fame game. At various points in my life, I've had a bit of local fame. Basically, as a high school and college athlete, I was on tv and in the newspapers, etc. I had groupies. It was awesome. Quality pussy with no work or approaching! My experiences have led me to the following conclusions..

I see it alot like the "Fishbowl" concept.

I like to phrase it as "Fishbowl Fame".

Identify a fishbowl that has good quality and quantity. A fishbowl that you can exploit. Focus your efforts on building fame within that fishbowl. This means that you might be more focused on local fame instead of a national or international fame. Why? Because a little local fame can actually mean more pussy then national/international fame.

It's all about turning that fame into quality pussy. Not all fame is the same. Being famous among men means very little. Better to be famous among women.

Being famous in a good local fishbowl can be better then being famous online. Fame only helps if you can turn that fame into quality pussy and big money.

For Roosh, an example of this would be something like..

Focus on one country, for example, if you can parlay your experience in the Romanian media to becoming a Romanian tv personality, that might be better then being the hero to millions of men around the world.

There are many factors involved like money, long term vision, etc. What you are famous for matters.

There are many layers to this.

I guess my main point is this:

Find a fishbowl with quality and quantity, get famous inside that fishbowl, enjoy.

Quote: (04-28-2013 10:15 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

Fame being an American thing? You're crazy. I've never seen more of a disgraceful display of people falling over themselves than in Europe. In Japan fighters are almost gods to the point where just being friends with a fighter puts you as an object of desire.

True that.

Supposedly, Freddie Roach is the 2nd most famous person in the Philippines behind Manny Pacquiao.

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Giovanny loves "fame" and "fishbowl" threads.

In this one he was able to combine both.

Quote: (04-30-2013 03:21 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Giovanny loves "fame" and "fishbowl" threads.

In this one he was able to combine both.

I know! Haha!

I am waiting for a thread about fame, fishbowls, making lentil soup, and basketball.

That would be better then sex for me!

I recently gave you props for 2 things that have helped me:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-22646-...#pid416104

And, quit spelling my name wrong!

Its not Gio Y.

It's Gio Y.

You know what I'm sayin

There's fame, and then there's status.

The two are often correlated, but not always. Being renowned and being an outcast can come from the same recognition. If you're of a certain exotic ethnicity, you can get status points straight away without fame.

And as others have said above, having fame within certain fishbowls will give you higher quality than even higher fame in a fishbowl with lower quality girls. Being a random DJ getting any girl in the club, vs a very famous doctor getting a nurse.