I've been feeling frustrated about the lack of adventurous nature of most of the people I know. No one has any damn motivation to get outside of their puny ass little ponds. Everyone is gung ho about an overseas trip until they find out a ticket costs a grand. Meanwhile they're spending 300 a week in bar tabs. The shit is maddening.

Which brings me to my next observation. I'm glad I joined this forum. Sure there are some douche bags but, even those guys seem to get outside of what other people's comfort zones would be. The other thing is that, its reassuring to hear there's more than a few people who don't need someone around to push their wheelchair when they're older. I don't want to get married. All it winds up being is a shitty business decision. Remember in the Big Lewbowski when when the Nilhists say "Gib me your money!" to Walter? How much could that guy possibly have in his wallet? 30 bucks? Instead he says "Fuck you. What's mine is mine".

I've met a lot of people at my gym lately. When it comes up during conversation that I've lived abroad in a bunch of different countries, their eyes just glaze over. Then we talk about something else. It's not really "interesting" to most people in the US so I don't really discuss it anymore. We talk about reality shows like "The Ultimate Fighter" or television shows like "Mad Men." This seems to please people. And I aim to please.

I know guys who'd rather go to Las Vegas and blow a few grand on strippers, booze, hotel, and food than go abroad. Go figure.

Yeah everytime I plan an overseas trip everyone wants in until they get cold feet, then it gets broken down anywhere from a 2-3 person affair. And the same ones too, I know who my solid party crew is.

Quote: (12-02-2010 08:17 PM)DH-Godzilla Wrote:  

Yeah everytime I plan an overseas trip everyone wants in until they get cold feet, then it gets broken down anywhere from a 2-3 person affair. And the same ones too, I know who my solid party crew is.

Yeah well you know, a G is a lot of money just to go over to a strange new place with hot ass woman AND are you goddamn kidding me??? When do these guys all of a sudden start becoming accountants running a startup business specializing in being panzies?

Quote: (12-02-2010 08:07 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

I'm glad I joined this forum. Sure there are some douche bags

Almost everyone is cool on this forum. The guys that aren't tend to get booted, eventually. But we all have our moments... we tend to have them and forget them though. A disagreement in one post doesn't mean that you can't be cool with the guy in the next. Lots of different experiences and perspectives here...

I agree with hydrogonian, haven't been much here but I've never had a problem with anyone around here. Sure there's a lot of different personalities around but everyone's all cool.

Anyways I can relate to you Fisto. Most if not all of my good friends since school days are just incredibly boring. Living abroad probably hasn't crossed their minds a single time, and they're too scared of the game. Which motivates me more on just living abroad by myself and meeting new people everywhere I go.

I know how you feel. I just do my research and go. Sometimes after they see my pics they wanna go. Sometimes a wing can hold you back. I can meet people wherever I go now.

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Sure there are some douche bags

Very unnecessary comment. You're the only person here name calling. What does that make you? Pillar of the community?

most of my friends dont have the time or money

Quote: (12-02-2010 11:13 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

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Sure there are some douche bags

Very unnecessary comment. You're the only person here name calling. What does that make you? Pillar of the community?

Actually Roosh, I think it's accurate. I just had a series of disrespectful comments that had nothing to do with the topic of the thread I started and in addition I tried to defuse the situation before said name calling.

Quote: (12-02-2010 11:51 PM)Dash Global Wrote:  

most of my friends dont have the time or money

Those are good reasons IMO.

I've kicked it with 4 people or so from the forum, both abroad and locally. Everyone so far has been cool peeps.

I feel you guys on the difficulty of finding adventurous types. I think age can play into that. I'm 34 and most people my age are wrapped up in career or frantically trying to get married and pop out a few kids before they're "too old". I realize that not everyone can just up and go abroad for weeks at a time, esp if you have a regular 9-5 job. Even if you aren't going to overseas, it's always good to have a circle of people that just like to do shit. Maybe a weekend thing to go zip-lining somewhere or people who want to hit up new spots. I like my occasional quiet netflix night on the couch too, but many people do nothing but that once they hit a certain age.

Just a reminder to all guys that if you have an issue with someone please message me in private. Let's keep the board as drama free as possible.

Quote: (12-02-2010 08:17 PM)DH-Godzilla Wrote:  

Yeah everytime I plan an overseas trip everyone wants in until they get cold feet,

I've literally lost track of how many times I've been through this. Make plans with friends to go on a trip for 2-3 weeks, they're all very up to it then as the departure date approaches, all of a sudden a multitude of reasons come up that they can't make it and I'm the only one going. I've found it much better to make contacts online and meet like minded guys on the road. Some people just don't have the guts to get out of their comfort zone and do things differently than what they're expected. Also, a lot of people are just too afraid of what others will think of their actions so they play it safe and lead a very IMO boring life doing that, depriving themselves of some of the greatest things in life (seeing the world, getting to know other cultures, learning new languagese and being around and banging hot sexy feminine women elsewhere). But it's their loss, there's so much we can do to help them, if they dont have an adventurous/open mind mind.

I had a friend agree to meet me in Bangkok on my latest big trip through Asia. He was supposed to meet me there and then travel with me through Cambodia and Malaysia. He just didn't show. He didn't back out. He didn't change his mind. He literally just stopped answering emails the week before (I was already in Thailand) and the day he was supposed to show up to the hotel, he never came. Haven't heard from him since.

I'd say at least the 1/2 the people who say they want to travel with me end up bailing. A lot follow through though.

I also find that people either get very excited to talk about my traveling or have no interest at all. It seems like it's either ALL they want to talk about (live vicariously through my stories) or they don't even know where the country I'm talking about is on a map.

It's easy to say yes in the beginning, but there's always an opportunity cost. Potential lost revenue, extra incurred costs, a lot of hassle, learning costs, etc. It's easy to get discouraged.

People who travel a lot are more aware of that than those who don't, and therefore plan more efficiently (if they want to keep traveling).

I can only imagine how nice it would be to actually board a plane with a friend/wingman. I travel exclusively solo. Finding wingman abroad isn't hard but adds a sometimes frustrating step. Do you guys get tired of getting chastised by married beta males for living a "meaningless and irresponsible" lifestyle?

Quote: (12-02-2010 08:46 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

Quote: (12-02-2010 08:17 PM)DH-Godzilla Wrote:  

Yeah everytime I plan an overseas trip everyone wants in until they get cold feet, then it gets broken down anywhere from a 2-3 person affair. And the same ones too, I know who my solid party crew is.

Yeah well you know, a G is a lot of money just to go over to a strange new place with hot ass woman AND are you goddamn kidding me??? When do these guys all of a sudden start becoming accountants running a startup business specializing in being panzies?

Hell, I spent way more than a G going to Slovenia, which I think I may be the only guy on the forum to have explored so far in Sept.....the adventure of hot, unchartered pussy is part of the excitement and adrenaline rush!

Mixx

Quote: (12-03-2010 10:13 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

I can only imagine how nice it would be to actually board a plane with a friend/wingman. I travel exclusively solo. Finding wingman abroad isn't hard but adds a sometimes frustrating step. Do you guys get tired of getting chastised by married beta males for living a "meaningless and irresponsible" lifestyle?

Yeah, for sure. And don't get me started on their beta wives.....

Just post or email pics of hot girls you are banging while abroad. Or if you're more private and discreet just imply it without being a braggart.

A big issue is likely the financial and time constraints, which really amount to the same thing. People with both location independence and financial security are quite rare.

Quote: (12-03-2010 11:00 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

Quote: (12-02-2010 08:46 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

Quote: (12-02-2010 08:17 PM)DH-Godzilla Wrote:  

Yeah everytime I plan an overseas trip everyone wants in until they get cold feet, then it gets broken down anywhere from a 2-3 person affair. And the same ones too, I know who my solid party crew is.

Yeah well you know, a G is a lot of money just to go over to a strange new place with hot ass woman AND are you goddamn kidding me??? When do these guys all of a sudden start becoming accountants running a startup business specializing in being panzies?

Hell, I spent way more than a G going to Slovenia, which I think I may be the only guy on the forum to have explored so far in Sept.....the adventure of hot, unchartered pussy is part of the excitement and adrenaline rush!

Mixx

That was a really good report. You probably made up a lot of the airfare in first dates.

A lot of my friends are like this as well. I have a small group who think the same way as I do. Of course it can be frustrating trying to convince them to sample something different, but at the same time I am glad that many people have this 'home-comforts' attitude as if absolutely everybody was travelling, living abroad etc, it would make it substantially less appealing.

Quote: (12-03-2010 01:27 PM)3extra Wrote:  

I am glad that many people have this 'home-comforts' attitude as if absolutely everybody was travelling, living abroad etc, it would make it substantially less appealing.

Good point. I also think of the environmental impact.

I felt that way with my HS friends. They were the type of guys who didn't really like to leave their comfort zones, so hanging around them I felt like I had this built up energy and want to see the rest of the US/World, and they were just happy doing some stupid shit around town. It's not a surprise that I was really looking forward to college to meet some new people!

The cool thing about getting out there, and being open to meeting new people, is that you meet people with the same interests as you (one of the good things about living in a major city actually) so while you can still stay in touch with your old friends (hang out, meet up, grab a beer, etc) you don't have to be limited by them.

Who cares if they don't want to travel? I used to be nervous about the idea of traveling by myself. Then one time my friend backed out at the last minute, so I went by myself, and I had the time of my life. I've never looked back and always travel alone now- and I wouldn't consider bringing someone with me unless I knew they are either-

A)A guy who has an international outlook who I knew would be cool on a trip

B)A girl I am banging

The best part of traveling alone is the freedom it gives you. Do you want to rush off to a new city? You do it. Do you want to go all out and squeeze in as many sights as you can? You do it. You do want to spend a whole day sarging? You do it. Do you just want to chill? You do it. You do whatever you want without taking into account anyone's opinion. Traveling along means you enjoy the foreign country the way you want to.

You don't really need a wingman at all to meet women in a foreign country. In fact, if you do meet a woman, you're going to end up splitting from your wing anyway. You can still go out to bars and clubs and approach- just talk to everyone there, and don't make any apologies for being by yourself. I don't think having a wing is even necessarily helpful.