this is good stuff. She is a different brand of feminist.






it's over most people's heads.

Nice find!

"The greatest rock and roll has come out of lust and aggression. We need more of that."

I don't even know if you can call her a feminist. She has been a bulwark against a lot of the cultural Marxism bullshit that's been infesting Western academics, and has gotten plenty of flack for it. I believe she once said "if civilisation had been left in female hands, we would still be living in grass huts"

Been reading her writings for the past 20 years. I bought SEXUAL PERSONA the minute it hit the stands. Still can't figure out if she's the most brilliant academic alive or just plain nuts.

this is great too. I love that she notices that all of those conservative rape statements are a tangential distraction.

Good stuff. She can ramble!

Funny chick!

"Women have been discouraged from genres such as sculpture that require studio training or expensive materials. But in philosophy, mathematics, and poetry, the only materials are pen and paper. Male conspiracy cannot explain all female failures. I am convinced that, even without restrictions, there still would have been no female Pascal, Milton, or Kant. Genius is not checked by social obstacles: it will overcome. Men's egotism, so disgusting in the talentless, is the source of their greatness as a sex. . . . Even now, with all vocations open, I marvel at the rarity of the woman driven by artistic or intellectual obsession, that self-mutilating derangement of social relationship which, in its alternate forms of crime and ideation, is the disgrace and glory of the human species"

damn she goes hard.

I haven't read her books yet, just some quotes and interviews. What I gather is that she worships excitement, passion, and culture above all.

I've read some of Camille Paglia's books. They're pretty spot on. She's an absolute gem against feminist insanity (despite being a feminist herself).

I recommend listening to both her interviews linked. Good stuff.

In the second video she makes a point about porn that I had been thinking about. She says porn shows nature. One of the anti-porn arguments I've heard is that it gives people an unrealistic view of sex. Obviously the scenarios are unrealistic and some of the positions look good on camera but would be uncomfortable for normal people. But at its core it shows our true animal nature. That is realistic, and that is what makes anti-porn people uncomfortable. The fact that it shows how we really are, and it's not always nice and polite.

I'm not sure why she still calls herself a feminist since she's so out of step with their hivemind.

Quote: (01-03-2013 01:02 PM)rivex Wrote:  

I'm not sure why she still calls herself a feminist since she's so out of step with their hivemind.

I was wondering the same thing. I guess I'd have to read some of her books to get her full perspective but judging from the election interview it seems like she wants women to step outside of themselves to be more well rounded human beings and broaden their horizons... meaning she wants them to will themselves to do this rather than blaming patriarchy for their ineptitude.

Quote: (01-03-2013 02:40 AM)ghostdog Wrote:  

"Women have been discouraged from genres such as sculpture that require studio training or expensive materials. But in philosophy, mathematics, and poetry, the only materials are pen and paper. Male conspiracy cannot explain all female failures. I am convinced that, even without restrictions, there still would have been no female Pascal, Milton, or Kant. Genius is not checked by social obstacles: it will overcome. Men's egotism, so disgusting in the talentless, is the source of their greatness as a sex. . . . Even now, with all vocations open, I marvel at the rarity of the woman driven by artistic or intellectual obsession, that self-mutilating derangement of social relationship which, in its alternate forms of crime and ideation, is the disgrace and glory of the human species"

damn she goes hard.

I haven't read her books yet, just some quotes and interviews. What I gather is that she worships excitement, passion, and culture above all.

Its a great quote, and absolutely true. There are no great women in history, apart from ones where powerful men have allowed it. I.E Queen Cleopatra etc.

Quote: (01-03-2013 01:34 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

Quote: (01-03-2013 02:40 AM)ghostdog Wrote:  

"Women have been discouraged from genres such as sculpture that require studio training or expensive materials. But in philosophy, mathematics, and poetry, the only materials are pen and paper. Male conspiracy cannot explain all female failures. I am convinced that, even without restrictions, there still would have been no female Pascal, Milton, or Kant. Genius is not checked by social obstacles: it will overcome. Men's egotism, so disgusting in the talentless, is the source of their greatness as a sex. . . . Even now, with all vocations open, I marvel at the rarity of the woman driven by artistic or intellectual obsession, that self-mutilating derangement of social relationship which, in its alternate forms of crime and ideation, is the disgrace and glory of the human species"

damn she goes hard.

I haven't read her books yet, just some quotes and interviews. What I gather is that she worships excitement, passion, and culture above all.

Its a great quote, and absolutely true. There are no great women in history, apart from ones where powerful men have allowed it. I.E Queen Cleopatra etc.

There have been, like Ayn Rand, Marie Curie, etc.
They're anomalies though, and often in the autism spectrum

Quote: (01-03-2013 02:08 PM)ghostdog Wrote:  

Quote: (01-03-2013 01:34 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

Quote: (01-03-2013 02:40 AM)ghostdog Wrote:  

"Women have been discouraged from genres such as sculpture that require studio training or expensive materials. But in philosophy, mathematics, and poetry, the only materials are pen and paper. Male conspiracy cannot explain all female failures. I am convinced that, even without restrictions, there still would have been no female Pascal, Milton, or Kant. Genius is not checked by social obstacles: it will overcome. Men's egotism, so disgusting in the talentless, is the source of their greatness as a sex. . . . Even now, with all vocations open, I marvel at the rarity of the woman driven by artistic or intellectual obsession, that self-mutilating derangement of social relationship which, in its alternate forms of crime and ideation, is the disgrace and glory of the human species"

damn she goes hard.

I haven't read her books yet, just some quotes and interviews. What I gather is that she worships excitement, passion, and culture above all.

Its a great quote, and absolutely true. There are no great women in history, apart from ones where powerful men have allowed it. I.E Queen Cleopatra etc.

There have been, like Ayn Rand, Marie Curie, etc.
They're anomalies though, and often in the autism spectrum

Shit yeah true. However yeah its very rare and if you think about it they were only able to become the women they were in societies built by, guess who... men!

She is not a feminist.

She is a masculinist!!!

Quote: (01-03-2013 01:02 PM)rivex Wrote:  

In the second video she makes a point about porn that I had been thinking about. She says porn shows nature. One of the anti-porn arguments I've heard is that it gives people an unrealistic view of sex.

That is an argument most commonly made by fatties that are lazy in bed.

The movies aren't using CGI - theses are in fact thin beautiful bodies having sex. They are in fact doing their all to make it fun and exciting.

If they're trying to convince you that thin, beautifula women having enthusiastic kinky sex is "unrealistic" even if it's having right in front of your eyes, then they're working a conjob on you.

A conjob because they're not willing to do what it takes to give you that experience.

Quote: (01-03-2013 02:59 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

Quote: (01-03-2013 01:02 PM)rivex Wrote:  

In the second video she makes a point about porn that I had been thinking about. She says porn shows nature. One of the anti-porn arguments I've heard is that it gives people an unrealistic view of sex.

That is an argument most commonly made by fatties that are lazy in bed.

The movies aren't using CGI - theses are in fact thin beautiful bodies having sex. They are in fact doing their all to make it fun and exciting.

If they're trying to convince you that thin, beautifula women having enthusiastic kinky sex is "unrealistic" even if it's having right in front of your eyes, then they're working a conjob on you.

A conjob because they're not willing to do what it takes to give you that experience.

Great post.

Quote: (01-03-2013 12:46 AM)ghostdog Wrote:  

this is great too. I love that she notices that all of those conservative rape statements are a tangential distraction.

"I think that Hillary is a bit of used goods by now."



The one liners are great.

I think Bill Maher deserves far more props. He's singlehandedly turned me on to some great people like Gore Vidal, Christopher Hitchens, Alice Waters (healthy eating/live foods/etc) and really helped me "break out" from my southern conservative mindset. Really great person who gets far too much hate.

Quote: (01-05-2013 02:22 PM)MikeinMKE Wrote:  

I think Bill Maher deserves far more props. He's singlehandedly turned me on to some great people like Gore Vidal, Christopher Hitchens, Alice Waters (healthy eating/live foods/etc) and really helped me "break out" from my southern conservative mindset. Really great person who gets far too much hate.

Bill Maher gets alot of props in California. He is a hero here.

Quote: (01-05-2013 02:22 PM)MikeinMKE Wrote:  

I think Bill Maher deserves far more props. He's singlehandedly turned me on to some great people like Gore Vidal, Christopher Hitchens, Alice Waters (healthy eating/live foods/etc) and really helped me "break out" from my southern conservative mindset. Really great person who gets far too much hate.

Yeah I'm British so he's not exactly a household name here, but from YouTube etc, I've watched him quite a bit and I like him. He's a 'good' leftist, in the regard that he isn't dogmatic or aggressive with his debate. He is sure of himself which is good, but gives the impression he would listen and change his opinions if presented with good evidence.

found another really good interview

Thanks for the interview with Costas. I think I watched it back in the day, but it's been a long time. The show was called Later. Costas stepped down from hosting in 1994. It aired on NBC after David Letterman and Conan O'Brien.

I have respected Paglia for a long time. The brutal truth is that she has had absolutely ZERO impact on feminism or academia, though. It's only gotten worse. Her wisdom has been totally ignored by those people.