Quote: (04-11-2019 10:17 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

This really started back in 2008 with Ledger's Joker in The Dark Knight.

Holy fuck that movie and his performance are overrated as fuck
No one would care 1/10th as much it if he didn't die ...its not like he was setting the world on fire with his acting before hand...
Typical Sean Penn attention seeking shit ie act gay or retarded in a role ....so challenging!

Dude was on Home and Away ffs...lock yourself up in a hotel room ...wow so deep!
Whats next? Sleep next to monkeys in a zoo to "get into the part" for planet of the apes?

   

Quote: (04-11-2019 05:34 PM)hedonist Wrote:  

Quote: (04-11-2019 10:17 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

This really started back in 2008 with Ledger's Joker in The Dark Knight.

Holy fuck that movie and his performance are overrated as fuck
No one would care 1/10th as much it if he didn't die ...its not like he was setting the world on fire with his acting before hand...
Typical Sean Penn attention seeking shit ie act gay or retarded in a role ....so challenging!

Dude was on Home and Away ffs...lock yourself up in a hotel room ...wow so deep!
Whats next? Sleep next to monkeys in a zoo to "get into the part" for planet of the apes?

I bet you're fun at parties.

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When normal forms of critical debate and expressions of dissatisfaction are supressed and policed by our tyrannical overlords Memes are one of the few options we have.

Beware the nay-sayers and shut it down types that will be doing mental cartwheels to derail it. May the Meme trains power forward!

Haha Honk Pill. This forum is ridiculous. .

The True Honkpiller are Seinfeld and Larry David. Seinfeld never gave a shit and made fun of everything. Larry David then evolutionized Seinfeld in to Curb, where he made fun of the idea of actually caring.

I've been Honk pilled most of my life. Honestly. You guys merely visit in the clown reality. I was molded by it. Shaped by it.

Quote: (04-11-2019 04:47 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

Laugh at the decline, while enjoying it.

yes, with a dash of the emperor has no clothes.

Hitler was a vegan lol

I get the "deeper meaning" angle for sure. But this reminded me of a previous comment in the morality thread.

Quote: (03-25-2019 10:00 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

Modern life is therefore lopsided in the sense that we're overloaded with creature comfort and cheap amusement and (for the beautiful, sex on tap). But what it lacks is a greater sense of purpose. We strive to feel useful to a "tribe". Individualism doesn't give us that.

How do people fill those gaps? Through hashtag movements, of course.

The left has their hashtags. The right has their memes. Enjoy them -- nothing wrong. But it goes against the whole concept of rugged individualism and masculinity to an extent. Can you imagine your most masculine role model sharing a clown meme on social media? I'm laughing at the thought. Nonetheless, I do admire the genius of memes from a creative and artistic expression stand point.

Queue the meme images of masculine role models sharing clown memes (further destroying what/who we admire).

Try turning off the Internet for a week and see if the world becomes more sane. In my real world life, people are actually pretty normal. No pills needed.

Quote: (04-11-2019 11:35 PM)Sherman Wrote:  

Try turning off the Internet for a week and see if the world becomes more sane. In my real world life, people are actually pretty normal. No pills needed.

I find the internet much more sane.

Like most things, it's all a matter of who you associate with. In my case (and the people that like the meme), avoiding the insanity in real life is difficult. You simply can't avoid the insanity if you live in a big coastal city in the US or a town with a public university.

Laughter makes suffering bearable.

Quote: (04-11-2019 03:45 PM)Conquistador Wrote:  

So this is just a variation of 'enjoy the decline?'

Yeah, at first I thought it merely a re-packaged variation of 'Enjoy the Decline' (but much, much funnier). It might just be me but I can't even look at that Clown Pepe face for long without breaking into a smile.

To me though, to 'Enjoy the Decline' properly means taking advantage of and exploiting the system to suit your own ends. Thus, you're not quite as 'outside of society looking in' as our honking friend, as you are still having to interact with the world in order to further your own interests.

If I've got this right, Clown World may actually retain all the goodness of 'Enjoy the Decline' but with the added benefit of being able to piss off Leftists while energising Rightists by virtue of being able to point and laugh at the stupid stuff they do? So, not quite as selfish, as it actually has some weight behind it.

Quote: (04-11-2019 11:23 PM)Avoy Wrote:  

Can you imagine your most masculine role model sharing a clown meme on social media? I'm laughing at the thought.

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Queue the meme images of masculine role models sharing clown memes (further destroying what/who we admire).

Roosh is destroyed by your logic.

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Quote: (04-11-2019 11:23 PM)Avoy Wrote: [url=https://rooshvforum.network/post-1964419.html#pid1964419] 

Enjoy them -- nothing wrong. But it goes against the whole concept of rugged individualism and masculinity to an extent.

I'm not seeing how a meme goes against masculinity.

I also disagree that masculinity is about being a rugged individual. Men are social creatures and we bond over stuff. Hence the reason that a forum like this exists.

Quote: (04-12-2019 01:08 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  

Laughter makes suffering bearable.

Some of the best comedy comes from suffering.

We need some masculine synergy here.



Buffo The Clown is the rolemodel for a new generation but I'm not willing to sign off on his world view until I know where he stands on the JQ. No need to worry. He's not the only game in town.



As time progresses there will invariably be a slapstick contest of ideas for the mantle of the king of neo-clownsculinity.

And don't forget...

Quote: (04-12-2019 05:45 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

As time progresses there will invariably be a slapstick contest of ideas for the mantle of the king of neo-clownsculinity.

Hahaha - I think you just coined a new term. It's a fork of traditional masculinity or of its closer relative, neomasculinity (the tenets of this actually aligned better with me). Maybe I just need to "evolve" my thinking? I'm stuck in 2015.

I have a theory. I can't confirm it. I think someone (maybe aliens) took out Roosh and replaced him with a body double in 2019.

Here are my nominations for the Honk of Fame:

Let Us Honour Thy Clown

All the memes related to this are very effective and amusing. They obviously resonate with people, just like the NPC meme before. Not to mention the deranged response. That alone shows how this thing has got legs.

I do wonder what the endgame is for all these pills. We're getting this dished out to us when we've barely swallowed the God pill or whatever. It reminds me of Vox's sexual hierarchy which has become a Greek alphabet soup (he calls homosexuals Lambdas - why not just call them homosexuals, which is what they are?). Although "gamma" is a useful concept, both in identifying such behaviours in others so I can stay clear, and in correcting them in myself.

Still, I liked when it was just alpha and beta males, and red pill and blue pill. The simple divides work best as long as you remember that they are contextual, that nobody is on either side all of the time. All the other stuff that got tacked on later seems to be just a way to create an endless amount of stratified, set-in-stone little niches. What would the most extreme outcome of this be? "Now I'm Honk Pill, I'm just going to laugh at the world and I don't want anything to do with God or girls or anything in-between", said no-one ever. Let's keep it that way.

The way I see it, red and blue pill are fundamentally different ways to look at the world. You can either see the world as it is, or the illusion. All the other "pills" are merely the consequences of taking a red-pill outlook. They don't constitute new worldviews or paradigm breaks in themselves. You take the red pill, and then as a consequence, you pick and choose combinations of self-improving, gaming, finding religion, enjoying the world, laughing at the world, despising the world, whatever. Personally, as much as I love to laugh at the crazy shit in the world, I'm never going to allow it to make me forget, reject, despise, or abandon the real world.

Or maybe I'm just rationalising because clowns fucking terrify me.

Quote: (04-11-2019 07:11 AM)Borges Wrote:  

What was the last time [the left] produced anything remotely as interesting as the Clown World meme?

The left are clown world.

This actually makes me recall an incident when I was about seven years old. I was at a circus, and a clown was surrounded by children who were teasing him. He was angry and lashing out at his tormentors. This must have made a deep impression on me, because I still remember it. I learned at an early age that clowns are not happy.

Honestly, I don't know how you guys can embrace this one. Whatever. NPC mocked the left. The clown meme is a new right-wing persona -- one I'm not feeling comfortable with. Like boys playing with dolls. It has as a similar cringe factor. Easier to forgive if everyone hyping this was 12 and enjoyed playing with fidget spinners and Pokemon Go. Time for me to look the other way and let you guys enjoy the pleasure you're obviously getting out of it in the company of other "men".

Quote: (04-12-2019 11:24 AM)Sherman Wrote:  

This actually makes me recall an incident when I was about seven years old. I was at a circus, and a clown was surrounded by children who were teasing him. He was angry and lashing out at his tormentors. This must have made a deep impression on me, because I still remember it. I learned at an early age that clowns are not happy.

Can't sleep...the clowns will eat me.

Quote: (04-11-2019 05:10 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  

I think the idea of clown world goes back a long way. Honk Honkler is just the latest example.