I would assume lawyers, doctors with moderate game are pulling well, but curious about regular 9 to 5 guys, self employed entrepeneurs etc. One of my good friends is a personal trainer who works at a high end training studio, and has 3 solid 8s on rotation (1 MILF, 1 batshit crazy bitch, 1 who he thinks is playing the field herself)

None.
I got more pussy being unemployed than i ever have dropping the kind of work i do.

The only girls that care about what you do for work are gold diggers.

Quote: (12-21-2017 04:53 AM)treypound Wrote:  

I would assume lawyers, doctors with moderate game are pulling well, but curious about regular 9 to 5 guys, self employed entrepeneurs etc. One of my good friends is a personal trainer who works at a high end training studio, and has 3 solid 8s on rotation (1 MILF, 1 batshit crazy bitch, 1 who he thinks is playing the field herself)

I think your assumptions are wrong. The best jobs for pulling are the ones that bring you into contact with a lot of women that you're not working with: public-facing sales, DJ, personal trainer, etc. Bonus points if the job involves talking and/or sales.

Lawyers, doctors, etc., are working long hours in environments with feminist-controlled HR departments. One false move and blammo. If you're a natural alpha, then it's shooting fish in a barrel. Lesser mortals have to tread with care.

If you're trying to impress gold diggers and/or get the status boost from being associated with a profession, just lie and say you're going to law school or taking the year off to make some money before you take your MCATs.

Otherwise take the type of job I've outlined or a job that leaves you with enough free time and energy to work on your game.

Actor - famous
Musician - obviously rock star, pop star
Sports star

Essentially fame being the best choice.

Aside from that.

Doctor is all fine and well if you want to bang women who are past their prime, but hot young things in the 18-26 age range are not overly impressed with it unless they are already looking for something serious.

Unemployed well-kept man with Game beats a boring doctor, architect or lawyer 99 out of 100 times in a club or Daygame approach.

Your job does not make pussy wet - the raw attraction comes from something else.

As a lawyer I can confirm that it is really of no help in and of itself. I work long hours, hardly interact with eligible women in the course of work and even if I did, would not really be in a position to pursue them.
Handsome alpha lawyer (even relatively low earning one) with top-level game = "OMG! He is a lawyer... that's so hot"
Ugly beta (but rich) lawyer = "Ewww, get away from me" or beta cuck.

Further, the days of professionals making decent dough are well over (the status boost is negligible for the most part) and if they are (big law/i-banking) they're working so hard they're almost definitely cuckolded.

For STR - wealth and career don't really matter.

LTR- wealth really trumps profession.

I agree that DJs, club managers, people in entertainment industry etc. have access to, and probably bang, the hottest skanks due to relative status and propinquity.

For the young uns reading this, don't ever choose a career based off perceived status or potential to bang women.

Beta Bucks

For young women prostitution must be pretty high up there. There are about 2.5 million women in the US on SekingArrangements, or about half the population, but with a concentration with students who made up 1.4 million users in 2014 [source].

Quote: (12-21-2017 11:46 AM)gework Wrote:  

For young women prostitution must be pretty high up there. There are about 2.5 million women in the US on SekingArrangements, or about half the population, but with a concentration with students who made up 1.4 million users in 2014 [source].

You would think that this fact would motivate women to find a prospective young man who has some potential, find him young and then settle down with him. Or that the women would go and find a well-off but not overly exciting older man.

Nah - instead they will do porn (most porn starlets do one movie), have sugar daddies, do online sex camera work, anything but settle with the BORING BETA. They would rather whore their asses out than marry less than the UBER-ALPHA.

I have close friends in all professions mentioned. DJs fuck the most. There was one guy who worked in fashion as a non-gay man and he did also well despite having no game. My unemployed 38yo buddy outbangs them all.
My Game-less good-looking doctor buddy and my good-looking Game-less architect buddy get no traction. They recently tried and their stats are terrible. They find easily enough women in their end 20s and early 30s, who want to marry them, but they are having one hell of a trouble to fuck even one woman based on raw attraction - never mind getting younger girls. Keep in mind that both are tall and above average in looks - one got even a model contract once in his younger days.

It's better to work in IT if that is where your interests and abilities are, do an unassuming programmer job, make 100k, but then go work out and learn Game, approach girls.

Choosing your job for women alone is very limited unless you truly manage to become a succesful actor or musician just while being after women, which I highly doubt - you gotta have a lot of luck to make it and genuine talent.

I agree with the poster who said whatever job brings you in contact with the most women. Similarly, as a high earning professional, I get plenty of provider seekers, but I just smash and dash. Everyone wants to be my g/f but most are on some hypergamy type shit. Like really, I went to school for 20 years to wife up a certified nursing assistant. GTFOHWTBS

Quote: (12-21-2017 12:59 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Quote: (12-21-2017 11:46 AM)gework Wrote:  

For young women prostitution must be pretty high up there. There are about 2.5 million women in the US on SekingArrangements, or about half the population, but with a concentration with students who made up 1.4 million users in 2014 [source].

You would think that this fact would motivate women to find a prospective young man who has some potential, find him young and then settle down with him. Or that the women would go and find a well-off but not overly exciting older man.

Nah - instead they will do porn (most porn starlets do one movie), have sugar daddies, do online sex camera work, anything but settle with the BORING BETA. They would rather whore their asses out than marry less than the UBER-ALPHA.

I have close friends in all professions mentioned. DJs fuck the most. There was one guy who worked in fashion as a non-gay man and he did also well despite having no game. My unemployed 38yo buddy outbangs them all.
My Game-less good-looking doctor buddy and my good-looking Game-less architect buddy get no traction. They recently tried and their stats are terrible. They find easily enough women in their end 20s and early 30s, who want to marry them, but they are having one hell of a trouble to fuck even one woman based on raw attraction - never mind getting younger girls. Keep in mind that both are tall and above average in looks - one got even a model contract once in his younger days.

It's better to work in IT if that is where your interests and abilities are, do an unassuming programmer job, make 100k, but then go work out and learn Game, approach girls.

Choosing your job for women alone is very limited unless you truly manage to become a succesful actor or musician just while being after women, which I highly doubt - you gotta have a lot of luck to make it and genuine talent.

And I'm happy to oblige all aspiring young models by inviting them to a photo shoot (help build their portfolio), banging, and then sending in their application the porn agency. Wash, rinse, and repeat.

The traditional Beta strategy of getting into the professions is still valued by women (eventually) but it is counter-productive to professional men:

Quote:Quote:

Ironically, what has emerged instead is that education and career — the twin achievements that make men marriageable — may exact their own penalties on sex for men. In the 2014 Relationships in America survey data — new analyses not reported in my book — 23 percent of men ages 24–39 who have not completed high school report having had sex at least seven times in the past two weeks, well above the 5 percent of college-educated men and 4 percent of men with advanced degrees. What about high-school graduates? Twenty six percent of them report having had sex at least five times in the past two weeks, still above the 15 percent reported by college graduates. (More education is consistently inversely associated with recent sexual frequency among young men, even after obvious controls, including marital status.) On the other hand, only one-in-three high-school-graduate men report pornography use in the past week, compared with 61 percent of college-educated men and 46 percent of those with graduate degrees.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/45...e-marriage

The marriage supply is still heading towards Beta bucks but the sex supply is going to blue collar alpha fucks.

Professional man to whom the marriage supply heads, is going to porn.

Quote: (12-21-2017 05:08 AM)kinjutsu Wrote:  

None.
I got more pussy being unemployed than i ever have dropping the kind of work i do.

The only girls that care about what you do for work are gold diggers.

Quote: (12-21-2017 11:43 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

Beta Bucks

Bullshit and more bullshit.

Most girls, gold diggers or not, care at least somewhat what you do professionally. It's an attraction signal — status and responsibility.

Being an alpha Chad with a good job >>> being an alpha Chad who's unemployed.

Quote: (12-21-2017 03:19 PM)corsega Wrote:  

Quote: (12-21-2017 05:08 AM)kinjutsu Wrote:  

None.
I got more pussy being unemployed than i ever have dropping the kind of work i do.

The only girls that care about what you do for work are gold diggers.

Quote: (12-21-2017 11:43 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

Beta Bucks

Bullshit and more bullshit.

Most girls, gold diggers or not, care at least somewhat what you do professionally. It's an attraction signal — status and responsibility.

Being an alpha Chad with a good job >>> being an alpha Chad who's unemployed.

That is not the question here.

The question here is being the Game-less Blue Pill pussy pedestalizing Beta chode or the Alpha cad with little money.

We all know how this will go.

OF course the rich guy with Game is the ideal. But being a lawyer does not get their pussy wet. Being extremely rich excites some women - 50Shades as proof - but you gotta back it up with raw attraction. The guy in the books would get laid like gangbusters while being a lumberjack working 6 months stints in Canada. He is just more exciting and you can do more fun with him when he is a billionaire.

If a woman ever asks you what you do for a living just tell her "I do what I want" and then walk away.

Or, better yet, make something up.

Bartender. If you are a bartender and even remotely attractive you will have sex, period.

Quote: (12-21-2017 03:19 PM)corsega Wrote:  

Quote: (12-21-2017 11:43 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

Beta Bucks

Bullshit and more bullshit.

Most girls, gold diggers or not, care at least somewhat what you do professionally. It's an attraction signal — status and responsibility.

Being an alpha Chad with a good job >>> being an alpha Chad who's unemployed.

You realize I was being sarcastic.....lighten up francis.

Quote: (12-21-2017 03:31 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Quote: (12-21-2017 03:19 PM)corsega Wrote:  

Quote: (12-21-2017 05:08 AM)kinjutsu Wrote:  

None.
I got more pussy being unemployed than i ever have dropping the kind of work i do.

The only girls that care about what you do for work are gold diggers.

Quote: (12-21-2017 11:43 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

Beta Bucks

Bullshit and more bullshit.

Most girls, gold diggers or not, care at least somewhat what you do professionally. It's an attraction signal — status and responsibility.

Being an alpha Chad with a good job >>> being an alpha Chad who's unemployed.

That is not the question here.

The question here is being the Game-less Blue Pill pussy pedestalizing Beta chode or the Alpha cad with little money.

The literal subject of the thread is "What professions attract the most girls?" with zero modifiers.

So yes, I'm fairly confident in saying that's the question here. The alpha fucks/beta bucks debate is for a separate thread.

I heard of a radio once about a guy who knew how to do women hair. He was a legit expert in women hair. You would think that a guy being an expert at a salon would be gay. But no, he was just an expert in doing hair. He had his clients all over him and would get it in with his women customers all the time.

Moral of the story was that women like a man who is an expert at something and knows what he's doing. Especially things that have to do with women.

Actually at the core the topic is fully ALPHA FUCKS VS BETA BUCKS.

I honestly think that up to a degree women don't care too much what you do professionally. A university professor making 70k may be bringing a different environment to the table, but the McDonald's franchise owner who make 1 mio. $ /year will still be more interesting. Actually initially you can literally keep your exact profession a secret - even if it is highly desirable you are only gaining the mystery status.

And in addition I would add that women have this dichotomy in their minds of Alpha short-term fucking vs Beta/ideally tamed Alpha for long-term settlement.

I would also make the assumption that there are jobs of men that women have put squarely put in the desirable, sexy Alpha fuck column. You see this again and again even in the feminist media - the rock star won't be accused of cheating, but the Bill Clinton and CEO will.

So the most r-selected jobs that women put more strongly into that category are:

Musician/singer/rock star
Actor (though that varies)
Porn actor (women now seek out some male porn stars for sex)
Sports star
Male stripper
DJ
Club owner
Comedian
Any mini and higher celebrity, so long as it is connected in the entertainment field
Barkeeper (depending on the region, but generally true)

In contrast strong k-selected jobs are:

Doctor
Lawyer
Accountant
Politician
Corporate Manager


Keep in mind that the Accountant/CFO might make 1 mio. $ and the club owner of the failing club may barely break even - the club owner will have the more automatically r-selected job - thus the Alpha Fuck job.

But this is only relevant in the direct sphere of the profession. The club owner travelling abroad is just a nobody.

If you want to have easy access to women, you could just as well start a porn company, a model company, an escort business etc.

The money issue is one thing, but your job also conveys status to a woman. A plumber with his own business making 200k will be less socially acceptable to a woman than if she meets a lawyer making 60k. Of course the desirability of a job for women can easily be compensated with a multitude of factors. If you are a highly intelligent sophisticated plumber with a thriving business and massive Game, then your status is easily balanced through your other abilities.

So I am afraid - it's not up to us what we view as attractive professions, it's female perception that is coloring everything. Early on you don't need to tell her jack shit.

Again I might point out to the best example of this thing - 50Shades. The Grey character is a billionaire, but what he does she does not know. She only knows that it's not tech because Bill Gates and Zuckerberg are such bores. Anything else she does not care - he could be producing weapons exclusively for ISIS and she would not care. He could be making coat hangers or tampons. Though his very profession aside from being the boss of a big corporation is k-selected. His mere level and pure wealth make him just more exciting.

I saw posters commenting on doctors. I'd be more nuanced, as it all depends on the context, location and if we're talking about short-term goals or finding a quality woman.

Going out solo at night and saying that you're a physcian will not be a game changer obviously. The unemployed and similar looking guy with game can do better.

If you're working for example let's say in a university hospital as a doctor, you have access to a large number women from 20 y.o and up who are nursing students, nurses, medical students, dieteticians, nurse aides, physiotherapists, occupational therapists, social workers, etc. Who do you think will get laid the most regarding the options at the hospital? Chad the 34 y.o attending orthopedic surgeon who has to act as a leader and gets to tell those women what to do? Or 34 y.o Chad who serves food at the cafeteria? Even your very average looking atttending orthopedic surgeon who dresses well with average game might do way better than good looking Chad serving food at the cafeteria (regarding gaming, racking up notches at the hospital).

If you work in small family medicine clinics with 1 50 year old nurse, another physician and a secretary, of course your possibilities are diminished.

It all depends of the circumstances.

Bartender for sure.

I've got a buddy who's a cop but he looks like a tatted up male stripper. Dude could probably fuck 1000 new broads a year if he put his foot on the gas. He just settles for a couple new girls a week.

I rode around with him one day and just about every other minute his phone was going off with notifications from dating apps and texts.

I thought my tinder was rolling, dude got 20+ matches in an hour.

It's not what you do, it's how cool you look doing it.

I'm a lawyer.

Honestly, it doesn't matter.

I usually tell them, if they ask, that I'm a writer, I work in construction, or "I do a lot of things."

All of which is true.

Or I just make shit up like I'm a fighter pilot, a yoga instructor, or a meditation assistant. I'm just wearing this sharp suit because there was a funeral.

They can get to know me and figure out what I do for a living. If not, oh well...

As long as you have a stable job with security in the future, doesn't matter much. If you're able to afford decent clothing, are well spoken (social intelligence), and fit, that is the same value as having a nice job.

PS - on lawyers...

- Most are old and married. And fat.
- Most wear suits from JC Penneys that don't fit right
- Most have absolutely zero game, can't argue shit in a courtroom, and are only good for pushing idiotic paperwork that has no value in front of a jury.
- Most make a moderate income of about $125k a year, unless they have other side businesses or are partners at major law firms. They also work about 70+ hours a week, leaving no time for the gym or any hobbies. Great life.

Ari Gold is awesome, but that type of lawyer isn't at all what's typical in the actual profession.

Most lawyers I know have so little game that they can't even be brought out in public. They're happier eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich in their dinky office for dinner, working late, and perhaps perusing some online dating site, assuming they're single...

As someone on the inside, I can't fathom why lawyer would be a "high value" profession.

I'm going to say hedge fund manager.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arpad_Busson