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I find that most women are boring, vacuous, and not very creative. And I'm not really willing to dumb myself down just to snag trite sluts - they just aren't stimulating in the long run. Combined with how selfish and unaware most women are, my prospects seem rather limited.

Let's take an example of a slightly sweeter specimen. I talked to a white girl in Seoul on Tinder the other night, regarding possibly initiating the Apocalypse- "I have not been too impressed by man thus far. What's the difference whether I freeze them to death or roast them alive?" She gave me some great tips regarding the differences between heme and non-heme iron for my calculations! (It would be nice to find females who are capable of understanding the subtleties of humor instead of reacting like squawking ducks.)

So- creative in speech, able to make connections, familiar with symbolism, poetic, not afraid of the odd and out there, etc. - these sort of artistic traits are incredibly appealing to me, stimulating my pineal gland, which I find quite erotic, since such traits are even more rare in the female human than the male specimen. The mental and spiritual aspects of sex can really make the experience more profound.

Ideas where to find weird, open-minded, creative, artistic, and hopefully not overly controlling and selfish twats in the land of Taura? Am I destined to go for trannies since the typical female brain is so deeply addled and the soul so set on manipulation? I'm just not willing to settle for the typical piece of trash with no substance other than surface level looks who's going to talk about bullshit I don't care about instead of getting into the deeper soul aspects and nature of the universe. (It's also hard to keep up the motivation to bring on Armageddon when I'm not being sexually satisfied by the creatures here on earth T_T.)

Any other tips on how to find such specimens, venues to visit, etc.? Where to talk to girls who are actually interesting in the way that I require?

I have not had much luck on Tinder because so much is lost in translation via text and I'm not willing to compromise to hide who I really am and what I want to say. Bitch needs to be wise enough to see the deeper me, or she failed *my* shit test. I think I will have more luck with chickadees in person because I am more motivated to play it slightly more subtle while pushing the boundaries, and in that case, where would be a good location to seek out uncanny sorts? I have considered Colorado, primarily because it is a nexus point of a great many types, so among the cacophony I am likely to find a few worthy samples.

Though I am still concerned with them trying to tie me down and control me, and it's quite possible the USA is a terrible place for finding truly enlightened women since they are so infected by the insanities of the modern zeitgeist.

Thanks guys.

Woman troll detected.

Quote: (08-06-2017 01:06 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

Woman troll detected.

I have a penis, but I am quite familiar with both the masculine and feminine archetypes due to my research in Qaballah. I am indeed a man.

This is not a troll post. My tastes and inclinations do tend toward the philosopher artist archetype, which this society was built on. That does not make me less of a man, my dear. I have my tastes, and they are intellectually and spiritually stimulating women... who aren't too cunty.

I highly doubt a female would be capable of arranging the post I made. Her head would explode.

Fear not OP!
This is just what you need!

It's a waifu AND a transformer as per your soul desires!

I might go for the pillows as long as it were in the context of a threesome... I never settle for just one.

On the other hand I would appreciate some tips on where to actually find women of the caliber I seek.

Quote: (08-06-2017 01:10 PM)Hooch123 Wrote:  

Quote: (08-06-2017 01:06 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

Woman troll detected.

I have a penis, but I am quite familiar with both the masculine and feminine archetypes due to my research in Qaballah. I am indeed a man.

This is not a troll post. My tastes and inclinations do tend toward the philosopher artist archetype, which this society was built on. That does not make me less of a man, my dear. I have my tastes, and they are intellectually and spiritually stimulating women... who aren't too cunty.

I highly doubt a female would be capable of arranging the post I made. Her head would explode.

Anyways, I don't feel like playing your e-peen game atm you two - not my type of threesome - so any suggestions from those not riddled by ego and actually willing to help would be greatly appreciated. Not that I'll fault you for engaging in humor, I just don't want this thread derailed entirely by trite nonsense due to others' insecurities about their own choices in women.

Keep in mind for my search I am actually very charming in person, and I'm also fine as fuck ~~, so it's not as if I'm some Napoleon Dynamite monotone nerdy kid - I am well-versed in the art of social awareness, I just don't want to spend my time working to burst through the bubbles of the typical neurotic female's self-centered "all I care about is the earth element (but I don't even know what that is)" attitude.

A wise man once quoted on a forum in the gutters of Tauronto-

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Rudyard Kipling

Thanks again, if anyone can provide some ideas on where to find a superior concentration of women acceptable to my tastes.

Quote: (08-06-2017 01:29 PM)Hooch123 Wrote:  

I'm also fine as fuck ~~, so it's not as if I'm some Napoleon Dynamite monotone nerdy kid - I am well-versed in the art of social awareness

Say no more.

Quote: (08-06-2017 01:29 PM)Hooch123 Wrote:  

Anyways, I don't feel like playing your e-peen game atm you two - not my type of threesome - so any suggestions from those not riddled by ego and actually willing to help would be greatly appreciated. Not that I'll fault you for engaging in humor, I just don't want this thread derailed entirely by trite nonsense due to others' insecurities about their own choices in women.

Keep in mind for my search I am actually very charming in person, and I'm also fine as fuck ~~, so it's not as if I'm some Napoleon Dynamite monotone nerdy kid - I am well-versed in the art of social awareness, I just don't want to spend my time working to burst through the bubbles of the typical neurotic female's self-centered "all I care about is the earth element (but I don't even know what that is)" attitude.

A wise man once quoted on a forum in the gutters of Tauronto-

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Rudyard Kipling

Thanks again, if anyone can provide some ideas on where to find a superior concentration of women acceptable to my tastes.

OP, if you want to stay in the US I can't help, from my experience from the countries I have lived in I found swedish women really sweet and interesting, some of them are very intellectual and stay humble, not the "I have been to this fancy university that daddy paid for so I'm better than you" that I usually find in London.

OP, I would take a cue from Roosh and you simply need to think further on where these type of ladies would likely hang out. Since you are valuing intelligence above all else, why not start with Mensa or similar groups or even some ivy league alumni type groups or even hobbies that value higher intelligence. Then, maybe you consider the type of fields these ladies might possibly work in and consider visiting conferences or classes in those fields or at least be at hotels where they would stay and talk to them at hotel bars and so on. I might also consider doing language exchange either in person and/or online. The reason being is that people who can speak several languages are likely to have a higher IQ and so may end up having the other qualities you are looking for. Finally, I wonder if joining certain community service type groups might put you in touch with some of these women. I would suspect that there would be a number of higher IQ women running in these circles.

Quote: (08-06-2017 02:56 PM)TIOT12 Wrote:  

P, I would take a cue from Roosh and you simply need to think further on where these type of ladies would likely hang out. Since you are valuing intelligence above all else, why not start with Mensa or similar groups or even some ivy league alumni type groups or even hobbies that value higher intelligence.

Have you ever got a good look at women who belong to Mensa?

OP, women are intelligent. I would say more intelligent than men. They just dumb themselves down for guys who hate women who are smarter than them. Again, a smart mating strat.

I run into smart and intelligent girls all the time. They go to college more than men. They are out and about in every city. They are at the bar. They are the library. They are at parks. They are everywhere. I don't know, but most women are intelligent in feminine ways. Not like men.

Try Silicon Valley. But I have a feeling you also want an attractive smart woman...

Quote: (08-06-2017 01:02 PM)Hooch123 Wrote:  

I talked to a white girl in Seoul on Tinder the other night, regarding possibly initiating the Apocalypse- "I have not been too impressed by man thus far. What's the difference whether I freeze them to death or roast them alive?" She gave me some great tips regarding the differences between heme and non-heme iron for my calculations!

Quote: (08-06-2017 01:29 PM)Hooch123 Wrote:  

Keep in mind for my search I am actually very charming in person, and I'm also fine as fuck ~~, so it's not as if I'm some Napoleon Dynamite monotone nerdy kid - I am well-versed in the art of social awareness....

does not compute

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I am well-versed in the art of social awareness

Seems interesting that you don't seem to notice how stating something outright like this is in itself a sign of a distinct lack of social awareness. A statement like that tends to come off like this:



Having to explicitly state something like that tends to suggest that your actions do not by themselves demonstrate said qualities.

I'd hazard a guess that you're also one of those people who likes to post particularly 'deep' self-quotes on social media, but that's just a guess though.

In response to your question: I've heard a lot of good things about Russian girls in terms of deeper appreciation for the more intellectual side of things. A buddy of mine was dating a Russian girl (ethnic Tatar, technically, but still), and was blown away with the contrast with Western girls, both on an intellectual level, and on the level of femininity (i.e. dressing up well at all times, high heels, etc..), and I've read similar accounts of others on the forum. Might have to give Russia a shot if that's what you're looking for bud.

Quote: (08-06-2017 02:24 PM)Lino Wrote:  

OP, if you want to stay in the US I can't help, from my experience from the countries I have lived in I found swedish women really sweet and interesting, some of them are very intellectual and stay humble, not the "I have been to this fancy university that daddy paid for so I'm better than you" that I usually find in London.

Thanks. I have heard conflicting reports about Swedish women. I feel as if they are quite infected by feminist retardedness; however, you may be right... perhaps it is more a surface level convenience for them and they are perceptive enough to let the spiritual gina tingles slide freely given sufficient political game to dissuade them from feminist idiocy, assuming they are not too far gone.

Thank you. What about any Asian women? I do value their tendency toward weirdness/creativity, but they seem a bit shallow.

Quote: (08-06-2017 02:56 PM)TIOT12 Wrote:  

OP, I would take a cue from Roosh and you simply need to think further on where these type of ladies would likely hang out. Since you are valuing intelligence above all else, why not start with Mensa or similar groups or even some ivy league alumni type groups or even hobbies that value higher intelligence. Then, maybe you consider the type of fields these ladies might possibly work in and consider visiting conferences or classes in those fields or at least be at hotels where they would stay and talk to them at hotel bars and so on. I might also consider doing language exchange either in person and/or online. The reason being is that people who can speak several languages are likely to have a higher IQ and so may end up having the other qualities you are looking for. Finally, I wonder if joining certain community service type groups might put you in touch with some of these women. I would suspect that there would be a number of higher IQ women running in these circles.

My initial impression was the issue with the intellectuals in such forums is they are conceited and quite deluded about their intellectual superiority - few in the university system are actually very wise at all, moreso they are indoctrianted into false beliefs and a false sense of superiority. However perhaps I should give avenues where intelligent or spiritual women frequent another chance, as there are always outliers. The other thing is that I don't want a woman who is beholden to the earth/business/capitalistic system too much - I have seen how prudish and cold such types are, for example Chemical Engineers in my area are very... they are just gross to me.

Quote: (08-06-2017 03:06 PM)crdr Wrote:  

Quote: (08-06-2017 02:56 PM)TIOT12 Wrote:  

P, I would take a cue from Roosh and you simply need to think further on where these type of ladies would likely hang out. Since you are valuing intelligence above all else, why not start with Mensa or similar groups or even some ivy league alumni type groups or even hobbies that value higher intelligence.

Have you ever got a good look at women who belong to Mensa?

OP, women are intelligent. I would say more intelligent than men. They just dumb themselves down for guys who hate women who are smarter than them. Again, a smart mating strat.

I run into smart and intelligent girls all the time. They go to college more than men. They are out and about in every city. They are at the bar. They are the library. They are at parks. They are everywhere. I don't know, but most women are intelligent in feminine ways. Not like men.

Try Silicon Valley. But I have a feeling you also want an attractive smart woman...

Women are certainly not more intelligent than men. The larger brain size of men as well as white/grey matter differences, and the bell curve of men which is wider, dictate that men dominate the extreme ends of the spectrum. For the highest intelligence, men dominate women between 5 to 1 and 20-30 to 1. A simple indicator of this is the ratio of men to women graduating summa cum laude in computer science, which is one of the few fields where raw intelligence, rather than conformity to political ideology and the brown-nosing in the education field, dominates. Affirmative action has been unable to penetrate this field because it requires actual intelligence, although women are still granted jobs they don't deserve due to the sexist policies of the large corporations.

If we are talking the extreme ends of intelligence, where I reside, or we are talking the deepest philosophical and intellectual discussions regarding people or the nature of the universe, the ratio of male to female brains that are capable is at least 20 to 1 - depending on how extreme you are talking, it could go to 30 or even 100 to 1. However, it's not as if I require intellectual equals, but the fact remains that the likely ratio of males to females who meet the traits I require of being a certain level of intelligence and also not being douchey/superficial is about 10 to 1, from experience. Like, it's nice to have someone who is laidback instead of being a manipulative cunt all the time - I met a trannie on Tinder who was like that, who wasn't even infected by the transphobia ideology, and that was cool.

So really I am looking for females who have, in a sense, more male minds, in that they are not so manipulative, stupid, selfish, etc. (As research shows women not only are not as intelligent as men, but are also more selfish.) I mean, come on, women just aren't rational for the most part, that's like a basic tenet of PUA honesty - and if you're not rational, you're not intelligent, because you can't learn anything true.

In my experience, it really doesn't matter where you are in the world, most women are vacuous. Mind you, men aren't much better, a lot of my middleclass mates' hobbies consist of football, getting smashed on the weekends and traveling to get smashed.

Most women in my experience are consumed by celebritary gossip, reality tv shows and social media; this is true for women in third world countries as well as it for women in the first world. Eastern European and French women in my experience can be very worldly and intelligent, but women with these qualities are still very much a minority.

East Asian women despite having high IQs often have the personalities of an annoying eleven year old girl. Jewish women also have high IQs, if that's your thing I would try them.

Quote: (08-06-2017 03:43 PM)thebassist Wrote:  

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I am well-versed in the art of social awareness

Seems interesting that you don't seem to notice how stating something outright like this is in itself a sign of a distinct lack of social awareness. A statement like that tends to come off like this:

Having to explicitly state something like that tends to suggest that your actions do not by themselves demonstrate said qualities.

I'd hazard a guess that you're also one of those people who likes to post particularly 'deep' self-quotes on social media, but that's just a guess though.

In response to your question: I've heard a lot of good things about Russian girls in terms of deeper appreciation for the more intellectual side of things. A buddy of mine was dating a Russian girl (ethnic Tatar, technically, but still), and was blown away with the contrast with Western girls, both on an intellectual level, and on the level of femininity (i.e. dressing up well at all times, high heels, etc..), and I've read similar accounts of others on the forum. Might have to give Russia a shot if that's what you're looking for bud.

Hehe, I am aware of what you said, but I didn't feel the need to make an additional effort to conform to the expectations of some people here who have a desire to judge - the judgers will get theirs without me having to make such an effort.

I speak differently in normal conversation than I write, and I take on the form that I need to in the venue I reside in. I prefer to keep this discussion rational and fact-focused, so I take on that particular form.

I do realize this sounds all very high and mighty and nasally pretentious intellectual, especially the last few paragraphs, but I just don't care right now. I do have the awareness of social interaction and the effects of my words, but with such awareness comes an aversion to following the dictates of the horde all the time, y'know... they have poor opinions.

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My issue with Russians, based on what I saw on Tinder at least, is that they seem just as superficial and manipulative as American women, the only difference is they are in a different location/situation. They are just taking different manipulative tactics, but the soul is still very unrefined and siren-esque, let us say.

But perhaps you are right, and there are some wise Russian intellectual women. Now that I think about it, the white girl in Seoul actually is Russian or does some activity with the Russian language, at least. Perhaps I will find my Natalya there?? I just don't want to get on the wrong side of WW3 .

Thank you. It is worth acknowledging the intelligence of the Russian scientists, perhaps Russia is where the next elite will come from. And I have also heard that Russian culture demands blunt honesty rather than constantly hiding from facts as it is in the ugly USA. Russia may be a great target, thank you.

Quote: (08-06-2017 03:48 PM)Llama Deam Wrote:  

In my experience, it really doesn't matter where you are in the world, most women are vacuous. Mind you, men aren't much better, a lot of my middleclass mates' hobbies consist of football, getting smashed on the weekends and traveling to get smashed.

Most women in my experience are consumed by celebritary gossip, reality tv shows and social media; this is true for women in third world countries as well as it for women in the first world. Eastern European and French women in my experience can be very worldly and intelligent, but women with these qualities are still very much a minority.

East Asian women despite having high IQs often have the personalities of an annoying eleven year old girl. Jewish women also have high IQs, if that's your thing I would try them.

Thank you. Yes, I agree about women, and also men. Most males have been incredibly feminized and act little better than the women - they actually *are* women, in the sense that they have, just like feministed women, embraced utterly the darkest aspects of the female psyche... and thus why we have such a mess on our hands. The e-peen contests and aversion to excellence are symptoms of this, but perhaps it is unfair to refer to it as female rather than primate. People in general are extremely immature.

Yes, I am really looking for women who are intelligent but not actually too worldly, but also not indoctrinated by spurious spirituality that's all about "lovey dovey" bullshit so they can manipulate you into giving them your seed. I am more looking for a sort of philosopher queen... but then if she's indoctrinated by false ideologies... ah what a mess people are.

East Asian women, I do like their zaniness and weirdness, when they have it, the nerdy types, but they seem pretty self-absorbed, not so high-minded.. yes.

Jewish women, I feel as if they are quite worldly and rather manipulative, after all that has been Jewish Halal for millennia. But I have been incredibly impressed by *some* Jewish comedian women in that they are at least willing to push the boundaries of the acceptable, but they too easily turn it into filth and depravity and angst rather than something healthy. I feel like Jewish women are rather racist and beholden to the current zeitgeist, and it is unlikely they will push against what is now, rather they'll seek to conform to improve their power base.

So yes... focusing on that which stands against the current ugly organ is wise. Thank you. So current game plan- Sweden for cute girls, Russia for mistresses.

Are Eastern European and French women super materialistic? I feel like French women could be absorbed by the fantasy of Paris, etc., while Eastern European women are just focused on getting the fuck out or cooking the meat. I want women who want to escape the confines of material conformity and create something magically delicious beyond the bounds of the machine.

Quote: (08-06-2017 03:55 PM)Hooch123 Wrote:  

Quote: (08-06-2017 03:43 PM)thebassist Wrote:  

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I am well-versed in the art of social awareness

Seems interesting that you don't seem to notice how stating something outright like this is in itself a sign of a distinct lack of social awareness. A statement like that tends to come off like this:

Having to explicitly state something like that tends to suggest that your actions do not by themselves demonstrate said qualities.

I'd hazard a guess that you're also one of those people who likes to post particularly 'deep' self-quotes on social media, but that's just a guess though.

In response to your question: I've heard a lot of good things about Russian girls in terms of deeper appreciation for the more intellectual side of things. A buddy of mine was dating a Russian girl (ethnic Tatar, technically, but still), and was blown away with the contrast with Western girls, both on an intellectual level, and on the level of femininity (i.e. dressing up well at all times, high heels, etc..), and I've read similar accounts of others on the forum. Might have to give Russia a shot if that's what you're looking for bud.

Hehe, I am aware of what you said, but I didn't feel the need to make an additional effort to conform to the expectations of some people here who have a desire to judge - the judgers will get theirs without me having to make such an effort.

I speak differently in normal conversation than I write, and I take on the form that I need to in the venue I reside in. I prefer to keep this discussion rational and fact-focused, so I take on that particular form.

I do realize this sounds all very high and mighty and nasally pretentious intellectual, especially the last few paragraphs, but I just don't care right now. I do have the awareness of social interaction and the effects of my words, but with such awareness comes an aversion to following the dictates of the horde all the time, y'know... they have poor opinions.

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My issue with Russians, based on what I saw on Tinder at least, is that they seem just as superficial and manipulative as American women, the only difference is they are in a different location/situation. They are just taking different manipulative tactics, but the soul is still very unrefined and siren-esque, let us say.

CALM YOUR TITS!



Then show them to us.

You sound like you own a fedora and several swords. This is awful. Fix it urgently.

I am still quite curious about Asian (Perhaps East Asian) women, because there seem to be a lot of opportunities there as well due to the high IQs and the tendency to be against cultural norms - at least, they are fucking zany/creative/weird which is very good.

I looked on Tinder into a couple places, Seoul seems to have nice women. I feel like some of the countries like Thailand have women who are less intelligent... whereas Japan these women seem a bit full of themselves... these are just initial impressions that are not too informed.

I don't really want a videogamer attention whore chick, y'know, I'm not interested in 'that sort' of down-to-earth. And I'm not looking for a nerd who's going for her Master's to spew more propaganda for the system as-is... but on the other hand, I don't really want a spiritual girl who's only spiritual and just wants us to sing kumbaya and forget all the bad shit in the world... really I want creatives who will talk about the deeper philosophical issues and also activists... but anything heading toward that spectrum would be a good start.

I guess I am a bit ahead of my time here, but this is where the world is headed... at least my world haha. Maybe I can't have it all - spiritual, intellectual, creative - in a female... but I can try. So any further comments on where such types might happen to be found congregating either in ignorant bliss just waiting for me to show up and alien-abduct them from their cowpie, or who are already in some sort of group community where such types frequent, would be good for me.

I apologize for the speaking so much, but I am a little bit intoxicated at the moment and I want to preserve these details for later to help me in my journey.

Man, where to find girls who are truly spiritual and enlightened and not indoctrinated by bullshit or beholden to frivolous activities... I can imagine a girl who would meet many of my needs but the bitch would be busy doing LSD at concerts and being completely absorbed in herself and how she's a goddess who all men should worship... despite not actually doing anything to make the world a better place, and despite not having the awareness to discern true value from false morals.... alas alas!

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Anywhere where women are actually intelligent with creative minds, and open/weird?

Yes or no depending on why you're asking the question.

If the question is "Will I do decently well if I only chase those girls" the answer is almost certainly not.

If the question is "I see a few of those girls around who seem to be like that are they for real?" the answer is likely yes.

You don't want to buy in too much to gender equality at the same time you don't want to overdo the AWALT. Then you enjoy girls as they are.

Quote: (08-06-2017 04:22 PM)Hooch123 Wrote:  

that spectrum

Man, where to find girls who are truly spiritual and enlightened and not indoctrinated by bullshit or beholden to frivolous activities... I can imagine a girl who would meet many of my needs but the bitch would be busy doing LSD at concerts and being completely absorbed in herself and how she's a goddess who all men should worship... despite not actually doing anything to make the world a better place, and despite not having the awareness to discern true value from false morals.... alas alas!

I take it you're referring to the autism spectrum.

If I wore a fedora I would be succumbing to the system as-is. I don't settle. Some other people, however, do... It's about will, really, and while you're conforming to the standard patterns of what's acceptable by posting memes... you're wearing the fedora of the internet. Shaming is generally just a symptom of one's own insecurity... repeating standard social patterns of attempting to gain the upper hand through manipulative (feminine) tactics designed to appeal to popularity. That's not actually "alpha male" behavior, that's pure beta, pure indolent cuck settling because they are too weak to change the system to create a NEW game. Why conform to the rules of the current game when the current game is producing *boring* women and *boring* patterns of social behavior? Better to *Create* something new - that's what men do. But they always have to deal with the ankle-biting weenies nipping at their heels. See the Kipling quote, again.

Quote: (08-06-2017 04:26 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

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Anywhere where women are actually intelligent with creative minds, and open/weird?

Yes or no depending on why you're asking the question.

If the question is "Will I do decently well if I only chase those girls" the answer is almost certainly not.

If the question is "I see a few of those girls around who seem to be like that are they for real?" the answer is likely yes.

You don't want to buy in too much to gender equality at the same time you don't want to overdo the AWALT. Then you enjoy girls as they are.

You're right, that's important to remember. It's hard to remain open-minded when almost all women are trash at this point in the timeline. I just don't want to waste my time on the frivolous ones, you know... if I give up on my overbearing judgment, then I might make too many acquaintances with lesser specimens, compromise my values too much, and not end up getting what I want... but on the other hand, if I assume every cunt is just as bad as the 99.999%, I may damn myself that way as well. Thank you, I will seek the proper balance.