Being in the Philipinnes, for the last 2 weeks, has made me realize that at certain ages, players should concentrate on different countries or regions. With time being so limited and so many countries to visit, I would not recommend for a player to spend time in his 20´s or early 30´s here or in Southeast Asia, for that matter. In this region you can still go strong well into your 40s if you stay in shape, so its to your advantage to concentrate on harder countries, where looks and youth matter (when you are younger). With that in mind, IMO here are ideal ages for players in certain countries Ive lived in. This assumes getting girls in their primes and not cougars.

USA....mid to late 20´s
Colombia....33 to 38
Brazil....early 30´s
Ecuador....25
France...29 to 32
Philippines.....late 30s or 40´s
Poland...early 30s
England..late 20´s
Sweden....late 20´s

As now I am in my mid 30s, Ill be concentrating on Eastern Europe the next couple of years and save SE Asia and Colombia for my 40´s

In other words in the states, if you are over 30, your timelife in game is over? I think there are few guys on here who are well into their 30s and they seem to do ok there.

Maybe when you are over 30, you just need to be ok financially (maybe).

Quote: (02-14-2012 04:34 AM)pitt Wrote:  

In other words in the states, if you are over 30, your timelife in game is over? I think there are few guys on here who are well into their 30s and they seem to do ok there.

Maybe when you are over 30, you just need to be ok financially (maybe).

Ill just give you an anecdote pitt. I was in my late 20s in Austin, Texas playing in a rock band and later in the night went to a local University of Texas Bar and started hitting on some hot 20 yr old. She asked what a man my age was doing there. Didnt get many looks that night at that bar and I´m a decent looking guy and in good shape. That would never happen in Colombia, Poland or the Philippines.
For me the a woman´s prime is 18 to 24 and that is what you should be regularly getting if you are doing well in a country.

Last year I swooped into a Coyote Ugly style bar in Charleston and smashed a 19 y.o. waitress. I'll be 36 this year. It all depends on your swag.

Quote: (02-14-2012 05:14 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Last year I swooped into a Coyote Ugly style bar in Charleston and smashed a 19 y.o. waitress. I'll be 36 this year. It all depends on your swag.

My friend, in these posts we are talking about average and normal experiences, not exceptions. Maybe you or I (now i have alot more game than 8 yrs ago) can do alot better than most with our swag. But for the average American being over 30, decreases your chances for prime age pussy by at least 80 percent.

Quote: (02-14-2012 05:20 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Quote: (02-14-2012 05:14 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Last year I swooped into a Coyote Ugly style bar in Charleston and smashed a 19 y.o. waitress. I'll be 36 this year. It all depends on your swag.

My friend, in these posts we are talking about average and normal experiences, not exceptions. Maybe you or I (now i have alot more game than 8 yrs ago) can do alot better than most with our swag. But for the average American being over 30, decreases your chances for prime age pussy by at least 80 percent.

agreed. Australia is the same. i wish i discovered Sydney when i was in my mid 20's.

Yes, that was an exceptional exception.

IME, smarter girls will go for older guys if you can push their intellectual buttons. They genuinely want to hear about first hand experiences of traveling abroad, how college influences career, ect. They will make the age exception.

Dumb bitches won't, unless you have the experience to mindfuck them into submission, as I did with the waitress, aka "booty blitzkrieg".

So, the more game you have, the wider the age window will be.

I agree with you choche: SE Asia will still be good when we are in our 60's. I will go one step further to say that spending a lot of time in these fishbowls could degrade one's game, making it harder to pull in venues that come preloaded with a challenge. Game is a skill, and needs to be exercised frequently.

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Yes, that was an exceptional exception.

IME, smarter girls will go for older guys if you can push their intellectual buttons. They genuinely want to hear about first hand experiences of traveling abroad, how college influences career, ect. They will make the age exception.

Dumb bitches won't, unless you have the experience to mindfuck them into submission, as I did with the waitress, aka "booty blitzkrieg".

So, the more game you have, the wider the age window will be.

I agree with you choche: SE Asia will still be good when we are in our 60's. I will go one step further to say that spending a lot of time in these fishbowls could degrade one's game, making it harder to pull in venues that come preloaded with a challenge. Game is a skill, and needs to be exercised frequently.
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Yes Ali, here in the philippines one is not challenged at all. Searching and gaming for the few 8 or 9s helps your game a bit. Ill go back to south america rusty for sure. But it is good, for two months, to get your rocks off, as much as any country in the world. Need a place once in my lifetime, to feel like the Beatles in Hamburg.

Quote: (02-14-2012 09:53 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Yes Ali, here in the philippines one is not challenged at all. Searching and gaming for the few 8 or 9s helps your game a bit. Ill go back to south america rusty for sure. But it is good, for two months, to get your rocks off, as much as any country in the world. Need a place once in my lifetime, to feel like the Beatles in Hamburg.

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Colombia....33 to 38

I was under the impression, from Mixx's posts, that you could do quite well much older in Colombia. I remember him talking about a taxi drive, in his 50's, having a hot young girlfriend.

Actually this is a good thread for us younger cats (specially us working hard in our 20s to be rich by 30s).

We should explore now the countries where you get to fuck the most by being young because if we wait to travel to these places by the time we are in our late 30s or 40s, we wont have that many advantages. Talking about this, London is a place where you get to fuck the most while you are young, the older you get, the less you are likely to fuck young chicks.

Quote: (02-14-2012 10:23 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

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Colombia....33 to 38

I was under the impression, from Mixx's posts, that you could do quite well much older in Colombia. I remember him talking about a taxi drive, in his 50's, having a hot young girlfriend.

Again there are exceptions, and yes Colombia overall, is good for all older players. But still, as a 33 to 38 yr old is when you can maximize the most prime age colombian pussy opportunities if you have decent game, financial resources and spanish.

Quote: (02-14-2012 05:35 AM)garygroundwork Wrote:  

Quote: (02-14-2012 05:20 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Quote: (02-14-2012 05:14 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Last year I swooped into a Coyote Ugly style bar in Charleston and smashed a 19 y.o. waitress. I'll be 36 this year. It all depends on your swag.

My friend, in these posts we are talking about average and normal experiences, not exceptions. Maybe you or I (now i have alot more game than 8 yrs ago) can do alot better than most with our swag. But for the average American being over 30, decreases your chances for prime age pussy by at least 80 percent.

agreed. Australia is the same. i wish i discovered Sydney when i was in my mid 20's.

Yes Gary, NOW in Australia I wouldnt be expecting to bang more than late 20s girls or cougars and alot of them, of course, are overweight. But as a Latino American guy, when i was in my 20s, Sydney would have been golden.

@Chochemonger1

I think your individual looks also play a major part in this. I'm in my 20's and regularly game in the states with cats in their early - mid 30s. One of these cats looks his age and if we approach as a group this guy obviously looks much older than the girls we're approaching. On the other hand the other guy who rolls with me can approach a group and the girls sometimes think I'm older than he is.

When you approached the college girl at UT did u volunteer your age right away or could she just visually tell that you were 7-10 years older than her?

Quote: (02-14-2012 04:34 AM)pitt Wrote:  

In other words in the states, if you are over 30, your timelife in game is over? I think there are few guys on here who are well into their 30s and they seem to do ok there.

Maybe when you are over 30, you just need to be ok financially (maybe).

USA was easy from the start.

And it has only gotten easier with age/experience for me.

I am sure their is an age where you "top out" in America though.

I am guessing if you are in shape, have mad dough, mad Game and dress sharp as hell you start backsliding at late 40's.

Maybe 50's depending on how you look (youthful looks) genetics and status.

Quote: (02-14-2012 09:56 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (02-14-2012 04:34 AM)pitt Wrote:  

In other words in the states, if you are over 30, your timelife in game is over? I think there are few guys on here who are well into their 30s and they seem to do ok there.

Maybe when you are over 30, you just need to be ok financially (maybe).

USA was easy from the start.

And it has only gotten easier with age/experience for me.

I am sure their is an age where you "top out" in America though.

I am guessing if you are in shape, have mad dough, mad Game and dress sharp as hell you start backsliding at late 40's.

Maybe 50's depending on how you look (youthful looks) genetics and status.

Im not saying it hasnt gotten easier with age in the USA or anywhere for that matter, especially with game and experience. What I am saying is that there are certain ages, where on average, you will do best with girls in their prime 18 to 24 years (Assuming you have game).
In the USA, I bet a 27 yr old with game will do better than a 35 yr old with game also(assuming all other factors are equal) at a local college bar.

Quote: (02-14-2012 10:19 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Quote: (02-14-2012 09:56 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (02-14-2012 04:34 AM)pitt Wrote:  

In other words in the states, if you are over 30, your timelife in game is over? I think there are few guys on here who are well into their 30s and they seem to do ok there.

Maybe when you are over 30, you just need to be ok financially (maybe).

USA was easy from the start.

And it has only gotten easier with age/experience for me.

I am sure their is an age where you "top out" in America though.

I am guessing if you are in shape, have mad dough, mad Game and dress sharp as hell you start backsliding at late 40's.

Maybe 50's depending on how you look (youthful looks) genetics and status.

Im not saying it hasnt gotten easier with age in the USA or anywhere for that matter, especially with game and experience. What I am saying is that there are certain ages, where on average, you will do best with girls in their prime 18 to 24 years (Assuming you have game).
In the USA, I bet a 27 yr old with game will do better than a 35 yr old with game also(assuming all other factors are equal) at a local college bar.

Right.

But the 35 year old would probably do better than the 27 year old at a high end club, high end lounge, high end lobby bar, and high end restaurant.

If a 35 year old guy hasn't got past the "local college bar" his problems probably don't end there.

Quote: (02-15-2012 11:13 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (02-14-2012 10:19 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Quote: (02-14-2012 09:56 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (02-14-2012 04:34 AM)pitt Wrote:  

In other words in the states, if you are over 30, your timelife in game is over? I think there are few guys on here who are well into their 30s and they seem to do ok there.

Maybe when you are over 30, you just need to be ok financially (maybe).

USA was easy from the start.

And it has only gotten easier with age/experience for me.

I am sure their is an age where you "top out" in America though.

I am guessing if you are in shape, have mad dough, mad Game and dress sharp as hell you start backsliding at late 40's.

Maybe 50's depending on how you look (youthful looks) genetics and status.

Im not saying it hasnt gotten easier with age in the USA or anywhere for that matter, especially with game and experience. What I am saying is that there are certain ages, where on average, you will do best with girls in their prime 18 to 24 years (Assuming you have game).
In the USA, I bet a 27 yr old with game will do better than a 35 yr old with game also(assuming all other factors are equal) at a local college bar.

Right.

But the 35 year old would probably do better than the 27 year old at a high end club, high end lounge, high end lobby bar, and high end restaurant.

Yes probably and that is why Colombia, Ukraine etc is best for us older players with some dough. But most US college hotties are not at high end clubs or bars, unless they are NY, Miami, LA wannabe models.

Quote: (02-15-2012 11:28 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Yes probably and that is why Colombia, Ukraine etc is best for us older players with some dough. But most US college hotties are not at high end clubs or bars, unless they are NY, Miami, LA wannabe models.

We have talked about this before on here.

There is a different population of young girls that hangs out at the "local college bar" and the high end club.

The high end club girls are more fly and date older guys.

All I am doing is going off personal experience.

I killed it in my late 20's (and early 20's).

But since I turned 30 I have killed it more.

So basically the 30's "Michael Mason" defeats the 20's Michael Mason.

Quote: (02-15-2012 11:32 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (02-15-2012 11:28 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Yes probably and that is why Colombia, Ukraine etc is best for us older players with some dough. But most US college hotties are not at high end clubs or bars, unless they are NY, Miami, LA wannabe models.

We have talked about this before on here.

There is a different population of young girls that hangs out at the "local college bar" and the high end club.

The high end club girls are more fly and date older guys.

All I am doing is going off personal experience.

I killed it in my late 20's (and early 20's).

But since I turned 30 I have killed it more.

So basically the 30's "Michael Mason" defeats the 20's Michael Mason.

G, your experience and posts are damn good. But I have to say that it is a specific niche you have and more power to you. Most forum readers, though, have different experiences than you. Just like, if i was rock star or jack nicholson, I wouldnt be giving typical advice to most players here, because they live in another universe. This thread was more for the typical average forum member. Though, as i am getting older and getting better returns on my financial investments, I appreciate your style of game more and more.

Quote: (02-15-2012 11:52 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

G, your experience and posts are damn good. But I have to say that it is a specific niche you have and more power to you. Most forum readers, though, have different experiences than you. Just like, if i was rock star or jack nicholson, I wouldnt be giving typical advice to most players here, because they live in another universe. This thread was more for the typical average forum member. Though, as i am getting older and getting better returns on my financial investments, I appreciate your style of game more and more.

I got you.

Sometimes I forget people are coming from different regions.

My perspective is pretty well documented. It's big city America; Southern California, NYC, South Florida, Chicago, Las Vegas etc.

And it is the top 1% of spots in those cities.

The Game in Cipriani's in NYC where you are partying with sons of South American Generals and sons of billionaries and model girls and girls trying to be actresses is going to be vastly different than a dive bar on the outskirts of a third tier city where they serve jalapeno poppers.

So yeah, in a third tier city I agree with you. It is probably better to be younger.

Quote: (02-15-2012 12:02 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (02-15-2012 11:52 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

G, your experience and posts are damn good. But I have to say that it is a specific niche you have and more power to you. Most forum readers, though, have different experiences than you. Just like, if i was rock star or jack nicholson, I wouldnt be giving typical advice to most players here, because they live in another universe. This thread was more for the typical average forum member. Though, as i am getting older and getting better returns on my financial investments, I appreciate your style of game more and more.

I got you.

Sometimes I forget people are coming from different regions.

My perspective is pretty well documented. It's big city America; Southern California, NYC, South Florida, Chicago, Las Vegas etc.

And it is the top 1% of spots in those cities.

The Game in Cipriani's in NYC where you are partying with sons of South American Generals and sons of billionaries and model girls and girls trying to be actresses is going to be vastly different than a dive bar on the outskirts of a third tier city where they serve jalapeno poppers.

So yeah, in a third tier city I agree with you. It is probably better to be younger.

Agreed G. I am more of a 2nd or 3rd tier city type player, as I probably dont have as much energy or drive as you do, when it comes to looking for 9s or 10s (and we all know they congregate more in your type of cities or venues). Id bet most forum member, would be happier with easier 7 or 8s than putting the effort for the 9s and 10s. But those are just minor differences in game philosophy.

I'm 27 and have no problem fucking 18-24 year old girls in the US. I don't think ill need to bail out anytime soon. I think you are putting way too much emphasis on age here. Also, just because someone isn't in their thirties or fourties, doesn't mean they shouldn't travel to SE Asia. Hot girls, good food, fun nightlife, great beaches, cheap cost of living, muay thai, new culture and exciting cities are all great reasons for someone in their twenties to visit.

If you're in your 40's or 50's gaming but with no status or security you won't get far, unless you're goodlooking and charming .I think that counts for whatever country you happen to roll up in.

The looks and charm will get you some action till she works out you've got nowhere in life and she runs without looking back...but at least you got the Bang...if that's all you're after you'll be happy!

But if you're in your 40's or 50's with no status to speak of I would have thought Gaming chicks would be the last thing on your mind...
Sort your life out would be my advice!

Quote: (02-15-2012 01:21 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  

I'm 27 and have no problem fucking 18-24 year old girls in the US. I don't think ill need to bail out anytime soon. I think you are putting way too much emphasis on age here. Also, just because someone isn't in their thirties or fourties, doesn't mean they shouldn't travel to SE Asia. Hot girls, good food, fun nightlife, great beaches, cheap cost of living, muay thai, new culture and exciting cities are all great reasons for someone in their twenties to visit.

As I said Rio, mid to late 20s is optimal for banging young chicks in the US, so what you are saying about your situation only proves my point. Im not saying people shouldnt go to SE Asia in their 20s, just that if you have limited time for traveling, there are optimal periods in your life for certain regions and countries, in terms of banging. Im doing quite well here in the Philippines, now in my mid 30s, but i wont be back here till my 40s because i want to use the remaining years of my 30s, in regions like E Europe and South America. In your 40s, one can still do alot of damage in SE Asia, more so than in other regions.