I am still into night game. I usually was going to best clubs in my city, but last year, due to financial reasons, i tried some "low level " bars and clubs that are usually full of people, but girls are mostly 6 and 7. It was hard to see an 8 and above there.
I came to one interesting conclusion -7's are most hateful women towards man like me. I live in eastern Europe and they are pumped and dumped all the time. They aim high, by they can't get those man to "fall in love" and commit to them. The age group that i am hitting is mostly 25-30. I am not a young guy. But,the first thing they notice, is my good physical shape,that makes them feel unworthy.
Ironically - the easiest lay, last year was with 20 y.o. girl- face 9, body 7, who i luckily pulled out from one of those shitty bars.
That's funny how much hate and poison i received during last year. So, i decided to improve my finances and never go to those places again.
That will be my game goal for this year.
I decided never hit on 7's (and below) unless she jumps on my dick.

This is why RSDLuke recommends social circle game. He uses cold approaches to build a social circle that brings the highest quality girls in for him. He says the best girls are never going to be alone at a coffee shop or in a club or bar. Using game to build yourself a life that gives you access to gaming the hottest girls to me makes a lot of sense. It's like investing. Put in the payment now, get rewards into the future.

Quote: (01-14-2017 07:39 AM)Paeter Wrote:  

He says the best girls are never going to be alone at a coffee shop or in a club or bar.

Maybe not at a club or a bar, but (depending on the city) absolutely at cafes. I've picked up young uni girls around my area at cafes. One of the smoothest players I've known practically specialized in meeting women at coffee joints, and over the years he's gotten some top notch 9s and 10s. Then again this is NYC so you spend some time even at the neighborhood Starbucks and you're guaranteed to find quality.

It's a low-key environment, they don't have their bitch shields up, no annoying/jealous friends judging you, crazy loud music, douchebag cockblockers to deal with etc. You can ask them what they're studying, and go from there. Best of all, you can't get fooled by clever make-up or poor lighting - what you see is what you get.

But I agree, social circle game makes things way easier.

What's your question OP?

I am quite skeptical about RSD Luke, but social circle game is one I never practiced and should definitely try it. Couple of times, I accidentally have seen how effective it is.
About coffee shop game- seems a good alternative to street day game. In my area winter is very long and cold. In summer, I do some approaches in streets but i am not a daygamer. I feel somehow weird doing this. I should check, what's going on in local coffee shops. This coffee"subculture" isn't very popular in my city, but who knows..
Thanks for responses..

Dude forget average girls. Go for attractive ones no matter the cost

Quote: (01-14-2017 06:20 PM)XXL Wrote:  

Dude forget average girls. Go for attractive ones no matter the cost

Yes,exactly. Thanks. I didn't had such experience in my life (luckily),and i "paid the cost"- more than half of year dealing with quite unattractive, highly depressive women who actually hates you, just like feminists hates Trump.

A 5 is average and you guys consider a 7 unattractive?

Send them my way.

I mean, it's true 7s seem to be the toughest. I think it's a balance between being hot enough to get attention from all men, to knowing they aren't hot enough to avoid an early wall. So they hold out longer and test more because they're worried they'll be stranded lonely. Of course, this just makes them worse women, because their shit testing is purely shit testing based and not because they aren't truly attracted to you.

Regardless, game is game even with 7s. A better man or better game (even if it were you on a different day) would close the deal.

Quote: (01-16-2017 01:28 PM)heavy Wrote:  

I mean, it's true 7s seem to be the toughest. I think it's a balance between being hot enough to get attention from all men, to knowing they aren't hot enough to avoid an early wall. So they hold out longer and test more because they're worried they'll be stranded lonely. Of course, this just makes them worse women, because their shit testing is purely shit testing based and not because they aren't truly attracted to you.

Yeah, OKCupid had posted something a while back showing how 7s (they didn't actually call them "7s" of course) actually did get the most attention from guys. They hypothesized that it was probably because they seemed the most attainably cute.

I'm trying to figure out why our ratings differ so much. A girl that's a 7 is very good looking in my book.

I hope you all ignore the 7's because that means more 7's for me.

Quote: (01-16-2017 01:21 PM)dallasguy Wrote:  

A 5 is average and you guys consider a 7 unattractive?

7 is average. There's so many different ways for a girl to make herself grosser, only a few to make herself more perfect.

Quote: (01-16-2017 04:51 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

7 is average.

You guys have a different scale than I. I think of a 5 being average and anything more than that is pretty nice.

That scale is lame. Why not make it simpler...

Gorgeous > Hot > Cute > Average > Ugly

Quote: (01-16-2017 05:33 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

Quote: (01-16-2017 04:51 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

7 is average.

You guys have a different scale than I. I think of a 5 being average and anything more than that is pretty nice.

That probably explains why newbies are always banging 9's is because 7 is the starting point.

In reality a 5 is average. Anything above it is above average. So a 6 really isn't bad. A 7 is damn cute. An 8 is gorgeous. And a 9 is well, on a whole different level. Even the difference between a 7 and 8 is huge.

Leave these Eastern European club rats 7s to me )))

   

Everything above 5 is bangable ion my scale because its above average looks.

Its kind of the bangable cut off point.

7 is well in

Another 1-10 scale debate thread?

I'll bite!

The generally held standard is supposed to be 5/10 is the number at which a girl is bangable but you would not feel good about it. You wouldn't exactly brag to your friends and you wouldn't take the girl out in public because you would feel a little embarrassed with her on your arm.

Anything below that is ogrishly ugly and should only be fucked with when heavily intoxicated or coming out of a long epic dry spell.

6/10 is average OK looks. Bangable and respectable but nothing to write home to mom about (not that you should be writing letters to your mom about your conquests)

7/10 is sort of perfect "girlfriend" territory. Where the girl is good looking enough to keep you interested in the long term, but not too good looking where she has a crazy ego or you get anxious about having to mate guard when you go out.

8/10 is where a girl is good looking enough to be able to start making money on her looks. Could be a stripper, bartender, IG hoe, fitness chick, etc. These girls are often crazy, especially where they live a fine line between normal and glamorous life style.

9/10 is a stunner. Model good looks. Gets tons of attention everywhere she goes because of her beauty. Can make a good living off of her looks alone. Most women at this level of physical beauty tend to shack up with wealthy/famous men because they can.

10/10 doesn't exists. No one is perfect. The idea of a "10" would be a girl that has something that a 9 has that makes her specifically more attractive per your personal tastes. Maybe you really fucking love gingers and this girl is a 9 who happens to have long red hair and freckles. There is your 10.

Are you rating them on looks alone or looks and personality?

A 5 is average. Anyone who thinks 7 is average needs to take basic math again or else their scale goes from 3 to 10. Silly kids.

As far as who is bangable, you need to look at both parties. A midget would be happy to bang a 5. Brad Pitt would not bang a 5

In my opinion:

5-5.99 - Bangable but not something you'd ever want people to know about aside from a trustworthy wing (been there)
6-6.99 - the cute range (not brag worthy, but not something that deeply shames you)
7-7.99 - the pretty range (nothing to be ashamed of at all, other girls maybe start commenting on her good looks)
8-8.99 - the hot range (all guys in the room stop what they're doing to check her out when she walks by)
9-9.99 - the stunner range (all guys and girls in the room stop what they're doing to check her out when she walks by)
10 - unicorn

In levels of measurement, what you talk about is an ordinal scale. As such, it's just some collection of numbers supposing to represent something (in that case female attractiveness) but in reality, it is NOT a quantitative scale, the way interval and ratio scales are, allowing for much more adequate precision.

For me- bangable starts from 6.
But 7's is difficult to characterize.
Of coarse they are bangable. In eastern Europe they often are used as a plates by good looking ,successful man. But not for more. And that makes them angry and depressive. Because they aim too high.
In this category fall also girls who have very pretty face but average body, and in eastern Europe - more often - good body, but somehow unattractive face. I mean- not enough attractive to make a man mindlessly "fall in love" with her.
That's how I would shortly characterize 7.

My scale of judgement is simple....

How must she look, soaped up in the shower?

I smell plenty of bullshit here. I doubt many guys would turn down a 5 for a free and easy ONS. I've seen too much shit out there over the years to belive it. You might not brag about it , but you would hit it.