Everyone who ever programmed a computer knows that A.I will never happen on a Neumann architecture.
Deus vult!
Quote: (07-17-2015 06:53 AM)vinman Wrote:
Quote: (07-17-2015 02:32 AM)Mage Wrote:
Maybe war without human casualties is not so bad, but I worry about small scale application of this technology.
There will never be war without human casualties. The purpose of war is to kill people and take their shit. Most western men recoil in horror at the thought of deliberately killing women, children, and the elderly. It's less than honorable. Even "collateral damage" has a psychological cost on war fighters. Killing machines, and drones just makes it easier, because it's a 2 dimensional image done from far away. This will just make killing easier. I hate this shit.
Quote: (07-17-2015 03:05 AM)Ziltoid Wrote:
I'm skeptical how practical and cost effective small arms drones will be. Probably something we'll see eventually, but in the near future? Eh...
Robots are expensive and difficult to design. Lower class human males are a dime a dozen.
No point fixing something that isn't broke.
Quote: (07-17-2015 06:42 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:
They are developing robot foot soldiers that can be dropped into battle from 60000 feet into the Middle East controlled by a man in Virginia. The robots are capable of short flight, and walk on four legs.
Quote:Christian Science Monitor Wrote:
Weapons that can be programmed to autonomously kill without human input are 'a decade or so away,' a top Pentagon official says. What to do about that is a question causing deep disagreement.
The idea behind the Terminator films – specifically, that a Skynet-style military network becomes self-aware, sees humans as the enemy, and attacks – isn’t too far-fetched, one of the nation’s top military officers said this week.
Nor is that kind of autonomy the stuff of the distant future. “We’re a decade or so away from that capability,” said Gen. Paul Selva, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Quote: (07-17-2015 04:48 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:
I think there is a vast difference between drones attacking poorly armed or even completely helpless targets in Pakistan, and drones attacking army positions of a major country. The capabilities and response speed of a drone, even once AI is improved, are very limited and not at all suited to fighting a well-armed and organized enemy.
Just try sending a drone to shoot or drop bombs at any actual military target. It will get shot down faster than you can say "Predator"!
Quote: (11-29-2016 04:45 PM)Germanicus Wrote:
Quote: (07-17-2015 04:48 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:
I think there is a vast difference between drones attacking poorly armed or even completely helpless targets in Pakistan, and drones attacking army positions of a major country. The capabilities and response speed of a drone, even once AI is improved, are very limited and not at all suited to fighting a well-armed and organized enemy.
Just try sending a drone to shoot or drop bombs at any actual military target. It will get shot down faster than you can say "Predator"!
Depends on the drone. Smaller, slower drones like the ones on the civilian market or the similar sized but more robust military versions, sure, not as potent in either offense or self-protection. The larger ones that have been battle-tested and can operate at higher altitudes like the Predator...no fucking way. Not for ground troops defending themselves anyway.
On one of my tours in Afghanistan I was out on foot patrol through a couple of villages in Kandahar Province. About one village over, about maybe 3 kilometers/2 miles away a US Army unit screamed up out of nowhere and conducted a raid. Must have been a snap decision because we were never briefed about any friendlies going to be in our area of operations beforehand. We get on the radio with our HQ to find out what's up and if we can help by providing cutoff or a cordon. Firefight starts up over at the raid and we get word from our HQ to take up a defensive position and not move. And out of nowhere I see a quick streak in the sky and I hear the sound of a rocket motor and then the thump and pound of an impact and an explosion. Afterwards we learn a Predator was on station and shot a missile at some fleeing insurgents.
There wasn't a cloud in the sky and none of my guys on patrol saw or heard the thing. Not once. It must've been high up and at an angle we couldn't observe from where we were on the ground. We wouldn't have been able to counter that had it been attacking us. It's not a good feeling being dismounted infantry and knowing that the empty sky can kill you without warning.
Thus drones are now a very firm part of the arsenal of any technological sufficient military. It also cuts down on friendly casualties. No one at the mainstream news is gonna whine about friendly body counts when there are none, no senior officers can get fired or passed over for promotion for not keeping friendly casualties light when there are none.
Quote: (07-17-2015 02:21 AM)Roosh Wrote:
Even hobbyists can put guns on drones. I can only imagine what Pentagon contractors are developing.
Quote: (07-17-2015 12:11 PM)Mr West Wrote:
I kinda only read the first few replies on this thread so I am not sure if this has been said but:
Humans (for the most part) have this infantile idea that democratic governments are democratic out of the goodness of their heart, and in reality is because they have to be democratic. Right now, with the amount of weapons in the hands of citizens and the cheer number of obstacles and mass killings needed to establish a police state the elite choose financial power as their weapon for control of the masses. But what happens when you no longer need loyal humans to fight your wars and exert your laws? What happens when you only need 10,000 humans to control a robotic army of hundreds of thousands or millions?
Yeah this sounds like science fiction, but so did the idea of an all seeing omnipotent technology company, or brave new world-like mind altering pills enslaving the population.
Stranger things have happened.
Quote: (11-29-2016 07:30 PM)Thersites Wrote:
Are you paranoid about drones? Sick and tried of the constant drone traffic send by NSA just for reading RVF. Just in time for Christmas: DroneGun .
Quote: (11-29-2016 07:37 PM)IvanDrago Wrote:
Quote: (11-29-2016 07:30 PM)Thersites Wrote:
Are you paranoid about drones? Sick and tried of the constant drone traffic send by NSA just for reading RVF. Just in time for Christmas: DroneGun .
How would that stack up against a U2 retrofitted with a drone pilot?