I see this a lot whenever guys run into some problems, doesn't matter if she's fuck buddy, LTR, fling or etc. there is common of advice of "fu*k that ho", "go out there find another one", "NEXT".

That bitch is still on the market, the next guy will have to deal with the same exact problems because the guy she was with didn't teach her shit.

I understand you want to blow your load, and that there are a lot of women, but you really can't complain about women if you haven't done anything to fix the problem.

LOL fixing women an bachelor deals with would be a full time job. Self improvement, is something one must seek themselves...

this has potential to be a powerhouse thread...

This is where I disagree, so now men not must only fix their problems but we must fix female problems too, I say fuck that, drop that bitch, when she cannot get any dick in her legs then she will be forced to change, that is the best teacher, do what I say or go dry for life.

That's not what the OP is implying. Keeping your lizard in check does not mean you have to solve her problems. It means put her in her place when you need. Put your foot down. I could go on about this topic but i'm on my iphone on a train commuting to work. I know there were sikilar threads but I'm sure other seasoned members can shed their opinions on this topic. Will check back later.

Combine the two: put your foot down and move on.

She'll change her behaviour and beg for you back.

Wolf - describe what you mean by "fix the problem"

Trying to change their ways is a waste of time. Sure, you can comment on their bad behaviour - but in most cases it's a waste of breath.

It depend which situation you are . I lost so much energy with one of my last girlfriend to try to demonstrate her all the thing she were doing wrong . But if she don't want to , you loose your time and you will be frustrated ,especially in my case . She was a really good prospect but to immature(young). The thing is they don't need to fix their problems . They will always find someone to will accept them like they are . Another thing is you can put a girls at his place when she is wrong and be ultra Alpha like I did but at the end I was even more exausted . Yeah you have the girl in your hand , she want to fuck you everytime but it's not enought for dealing with the same shit and same drama . Your not is father , she have to made self improvement by himself and she has to deal with his mistake . When she will realise(maybe,can happen but mostly not ) that she loose too much that she win with his attitude she will start thinking to change his approche .

What are you talking about? You can just next AND tell her why. No better way to put her in her place.

Women want to be put in their place. It makes them wet. A man who has the balls to correct them is a big turn on. They want a self assured man, dominant man. Thats why they shit test you so often, they want to see if you have the balls to put them in their place.

A "shit test" is really a "alpha identifying test". If you let her get away with talking shit to you directly to your face, then you are a pussy beta and you go into the pussy beta category. But, if you call her on her bullshit, without getting emotional about it, you go into a different category - the "I might fuck him" category.

Putting her in her place is the natural way. It keeps her ego in check, it makes her pussy moist for you, and it trains her to not be difficult with men. We all should be doing this. Sadly, I know that 90% of men will not put her in her place, she will develop and ego and an attitude. She will shit test constantly and disrespect dozens of men until she finds what she is looking for, a man with balls, a real man who knows the ways of the world, a man who will take control of the situation and tell her to shut the fuck up, this is what she wants, this is what she needs to really feel like a woman. A woman who is in control of her man is not comfortable because she knows its not natural. She will seek out a man strong enough to discipline her.

Shit, even beta males want to be put in their place, its the way we are designed. Most of us are followers in need of leadership.

Alpha males, please step up and do your duty. Women and beta males need our leadership. The world is a crazy place and they need someone to direct them. When alphas don't do their job, we get things like feminism, obesity, and out of control shit testing.

Women are like the juvenile delinquent kids that I work with. They will constantly push and push to try and get away with as much as they can but once you check them and show them they can not fuck with you. They are happy to accept your leadership. They know in their hearts that they need your leadership. They actually crave it.

Quote: (01-12-2012 06:00 AM)misterstir Wrote:  

This is where I disagree, so now men not must only fix their problems but we must fix female problems too, I say fuck that, drop that bitch, when she cannot get any dick in her legs then she will be forced to change, that is the best teacher, do what I say or go dry for life.

Ultimately it becomes our(men's) problem.

The problem is they are still getting dick, so she doesn't need to change. They think everything is still alright, because nobody is standing up to her. Even when they are not getting dick they still get off on the ego trip of guys wanting them and her turning them down.

Quote: (01-12-2012 12:08 PM)houston Wrote:  

Wolf - describe what you mean by "fix the problem"

The position we are now with women. You know women haven't changed one bit in 100 years, they are the exact same people they used to be. We allowed them to get where they are today.

Quote: (01-12-2012 03:52 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Women want to be put in their place. It makes them wet. A man who has the balls to correct them is a big turn on. They want a self assured man, dominant man. Thats why they shit test you so often, they want to see if you have the balls to put them in their place.

A "shit test" is really a "alpha identifying test". If you let her get away with talking shit to you directly to your face, then you are a pussy beta and you go into the pussy beta category. But, if you call her on her bullshit, without getting emotional about it, you go into a different category - the "I might fuck him" category.

Putting her in her place is the natural way. It keeps her ego in check, it makes her pussy moist for you, and it trains her to not be difficult with men. We all should be doing this. Sadly, I know that 90% of men will not put her in her place, she will develop and ego and an attitude. She will shit test constantly and disrespect dozens of men until she finds what she is looking for, a man with balls, a real man who knows the ways of the world, a man who will take control of the situation and tell her to shut the fuck up, this is what she wants, this is what she needs to really feel like a woman. A woman who is in control of her man is not comfortable because she knows its not natural. She will seek out a man strong enough to discipline her.

Shit, even beta males want to be put in their place, its the way we are designed. Most of us are followers in need of leadership.

Alpha males, please step up and do your duty. Women and beta males need our leadership. The world is a crazy place and they need someone to direct them. When alphas don't do their job, we get things like feminism, obesity, and out of control shit testing.

Women are like the juvenile delinquent kids that I work with. They will constantly push and push to try and get away with as much as they can but once you check them and show them they can not fuck with you. They are happy to accept your leadership. They know in their hearts that they need your leadership. They actually crave it.

This is what I'm saying. Besides pumping and dumping them we can teach her how to be a woman.

Quote: (01-12-2012 12:33 PM)Caligula Wrote:  

Trying to change their ways is a waste of time. Sure, you can comment on their bad behaviour - but in most cases it's a waste of breath.

It takes time and effort. But who is going to do it if we don't? They are not self correcting.

Quote: (01-12-2012 08:23 AM)alphaspiraton Wrote:  

That's not what the OP is implying. Keeping your lizard in check does not mean you have to solve her problems. It means put her in her place when you need. Put your foot down. I could go on about this topic but i'm on my iphone on a train commuting to work. I know there were sikilar threads but I'm sure other seasoned members can shed their opinions on this topic. Will check back later.

Exactly.

I understand the sentiment of the original post. At the same time, women remain in a state of denial. I think we as men should check them when necessary, but for the most part, they'll just tell themselves, "he was an asshole" and not alter their behavior. They'll find themselves a doormat somewhere, but then again, it'll be his problem.

Quote: (01-12-2012 05:07 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

I understand the sentiment of the original post. At the same time, women remain in a state of denial. I think we as men should check them when necessary, but for the most part, they'll just tell themselves, "he was an asshole" and not alter their behavior. They'll find themselves a doormat somewhere, but then again, it'll be his problem.

Not every moment is a checkable one. If someone isnt responsive and you check them you come off as an asshole. Most of the time its just next, if you are in a relationship you will usually have a conversation about why you went ghost. Thats the teaching moment.

Women wont change man, just continue shifting through the trashy lumpy coal to find the one you can stand or the diamond in the rough.

Check her if she acts up. If she can't correct her behavior then send her packing. Leave "fixing" her for the poor sucker that marries her.

Fix them? They aint broken.

Thats the way the world is. Deal with it and stop complaining.

I honestly don't give 2 shits if some other dude has to put up with a chick's bullshit. We aren't some brotherhood or union. We're just a bunch of dudes out to get pussy. If the dude is too stupid to realize that he should drop the bitch, like I did, than he deserves to marry her. Furthermore, telling a chick off DOES NOTHING to change her behavior if she knows that there are a ton of guys that will put up with her bullshit. She will just say "fuck you" and move on to some chump.

IMHO, focusing on correcting a chick's bad attitude is operating from a perspective of scarcity. It is as if I HAVE TO correct this now, or pretty soon there won't be any women out there to game, because they will all be bitches. In my life, that just isn't the case. I don't waste one fucking second thinking about a bitch that acted up. I just move on. The fact is, if your game is tight, and you have the resources, there are more women out there to fuck than you have time for.

Here is the thing, if you are REALLY the Alpha male in the environment then YOU should have more options than HER. SHE is auditioning to be with you, NOT the other way around. The real reason why this bullshit happens is because guys are hunting for poon at these sausage fest clubs and bars, where the women can pick and chose amongst a host of guys that, for the most part, are pretty similar to each other. In this environment, she can blow you off because there are 2 other dudes of about the same quality as you waiting to talk to her.

When you start operating in environments where you are actually either of noticeably higher quality than the other dudes, or at the very least are unique, THEN bitchy behavior becomes less of an issue. Fewer women will be bitchy toward you, because YOU CANNOT BE EASILY REPLACED, and those that are bitchy to you can be dismissed immediately, because THEY CAN BE EASILY REPLACED.

This really hit me when I was traveling in Latin America. Many of those dudes (I saw this a lot in Costa Rica) have their women in check. Why? Because successful dudes (hell, EMPLOYED dudes) have a ton of options AND THE WOMEN KNOW IT. A chick pulls a whole lot less shit when she KNOWS that there are 20 other girls that would be happy to replace her. She will also put up with a whole lot more of your bullshit for the same reason.

Most of the successful dudes I know down there have mistresses. The crazy part is that the wife almost ALWAYS knows about it. No one says anything about it, but she knows. As long as it isn't shoved in her face and she isn't publicly disrespected she deals with it. Why? Because if she leaves him she will be broke and it will be almost impossible for her to find another man to take care of her since she isn't young anymore.

Quote: (01-13-2012 12:12 AM)joehoya Wrote:  

I honestly don't give 2 shits if some other dude has to put up with a chick's bullshit. We aren't some brotherhood or union. We're just a bunch of dudes out to get pussy. If the dude is too stupid to realize that he should drop the bitch, like I did, than he deserves to marry her. Furthermore, telling a chick off DOES NOTHING to change her behavior if she knows that there are a ton of guys that will put up with her bullshit. She will just say "fuck you" and move on to some chump.

IMHO, focusing on correcting a chick's bad attitude is operating from a perspective of scarcity. It is as if I HAVE TO correct this now, or pretty soon there won't be any women out there to game, because they will all be bitches. In my life, that just isn't the case. I don't waste one fucking second thinking about a bitch that acted up. I just move on. The fact is, if your game is tight, and you have the resources, there are more women out there to fuck than you have time for.

Here is the thing, if you are REALLY the Alpha male in the environment then YOU should have more options than HER. SHE is auditioning to be with you, NOT the other way around. The real reason why this bullshit happens is because guys are hunting for poon at these sausage fest clubs and bars, where the women can pick and chose amongst a host of guys that, for the most part, are pretty similar to each other. In this environment, she can blow you off because there are 2 other dudes of about the same quality as you waiting to talk to her.

When you start operating in environments where you are actually either of noticeably higher quality than the other dudes, or at the very least are unique, THEN bitchy behavior becomes less of an issue. Fewer women will be bitchy toward you, because YOU CANNOT BE EASILY REPLACED, and those that are bitchy to you can be dismissed immediately, because THEY CAN BE EASILY REPLACED.

This really hit me when I was traveling in Latin America. Many of those dudes (I saw this a lot in Costa Rica) have their women in check. Why? Because successful dudes (hell, EMPLOYED dudes) have a ton of options AND THE WOMEN KNOW IT. A chick pulls a whole lot less shit when she KNOWS that there are 20 other girls that would be happy to replace her. She will also put up with a whole lot more of your bullshit for the same reason.

Most of the successful dudes I know down there have mistresses. The crazy part is that the wife almost ALWAYS knows about it. No one says anything about it, but she knows. As long as it isn't shoved in her face and she isn't publicly disrespected she deals with it. Why? Because if she leaves him she will be broke and it will be almost impossible for her to find another man to take care of her since she isn't young anymore.

In Eastern Europe it's the same. But we are not in Latin America or Eastern Europe, if you step on American soil you'll be dealing with this behavior.

If all else fails. Throw her phone in the garbage bin...

In seriousness, certain females who are way out there, I don't mind dropping a few pointers to her on how she can improve for the next man. Speaking a few sentances really isn't that difficult.

Quote: (01-12-2012 03:52 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Women want to be put in their place. It makes them wet. A man who has the balls to correct them is a big turn on. They want a self assured man, dominant man. Thats why they shit test you so often, they want to see if you have the balls to put them in their place.

A "shit test" is really a "alpha identifying test". If you let her get away with talking shit to you directly to your face, then you are a pussy beta and you go into the pussy beta category. But, if you call her on her bullshit, without getting emotional about it, you go into a different category - the "I might fuck him" category.

Putting her in her place is the natural way. It keeps her ego in check, it makes her pussy moist for you, and it trains her to not be difficult with men. We all should be doing this. Sadly, I know that 90% of men will not put her in her place, she will develop and ego and an attitude. She will shit test constantly and disrespect dozens of men until she finds what she is looking for, a man with balls, a real man who knows the ways of the world, a man who will take control of the situation and tell her to shut the fuck up, this is what she wants, this is what she needs to really feel like a woman. A woman who is in control of her man is not comfortable because she knows its not natural. She will seek out a man strong enough to discipline her.

Shit, even beta males want to be put in their place, its the way we are designed. Most of us are followers in need of leadership.

Alpha males, please step up and do your duty. Women and beta males need our leadership. The world is a crazy place and they need someone to direct them. When alphas don't do their job, we get things like feminism, obesity, and out of control shit testing.

Women are like the juvenile delinquent kids that I work with. They will constantly push and push to try and get away with as much as they can but once you check them and show them they can not fuck with you. They are happy to accept your leadership. They know in their hearts that they need your leadership. They actually crave it.

While I agree with your post, how do you reconcile the fact that it is unnatural for a woman to control her man, but at the same time, 90% of men will not enforce control? Seems like if 90% are not taking control, then that is the natural way.

Someone called it.. BEHAVIOR SHAPING. If done early on, with high attraction, the women shapes her behaviors to please you.