Quote: (09-17-2016 08:33 PM)Suits Wrote:  

Have you watched The Wolf of Wall Street?

Jonah Hill isn't entertaining enough or likable enough to be the star of a film, but he offers serious value as a member of the supporting cast or as a co-star (Superbad).

I did and while it was entertaining as hell, it was pretty dumb at the same time.

Every time I see Jonah Hill in a movie or Seth Rogen or any other unfunny, snarky (often Jewish) "comedian" I just have to turn that shit off.

Gonna have to agree with you, TigerMandingo.

Every time Seth Rogan comes on the screen, I change the channel.

Ain't nobody got time for that shit.

Quote: (09-17-2016 09:47 AM)dispenser Wrote:  

Being bullied out of France is not thread worthy. Stop picking on the fat guy, reacting strongly to things women say is actually alpha.

(Oh dear oh dear )

This is France we are talking. The French can be pretty rude and snotty as a culture. Basically, they are the opposite of Japan.

Bearing that in mind, he could have been rude back to her and it would have been fine, instead he leaves and cancels all of his appearances in France?

This is not humiliation in France, having a woman say "I don't want to have sex with fat men, get me your good looking friends" is not humiliation, it is a shit test. And he failed it.

The difference between Jonah Hill and the astrobiologist is that the latter was prepared for the dissing and Jonah was not.

Her comment was not funny of course and would be called a nuclear neg if he was a woman. Imagine doing the same to Rebel Wilson or Melissa McCarthy - it would be number one news of outrage everywhere in the Western world.

But men are expected to take any public shit test. It's possible that he was a bit blindsided, but I rather think that he is the usual famous Beta-schmuck like Seth Rogan. They get laid easily due to fame, but have close to zero Game and very little Frame control.

The women he dates in real life by the way are significantly less hot than the weather girl:



A solid rebuttal of that French bitch would be rather surprising. And frankly most Hollywood actors incl. comedians would be hard-pressed to do better.

It's one way to sit at home in front of your notebook and something completely different to be surrounded in a studio in a foreign country not even understanding the language.

"You know what? I can make half that dream come true - you come to my suite, get naked and we will wait and see whether Leo and Brad appear. If not, then this world-famous rich Hollywood actor will have to do."

But - as I said - it is irrational to expect any decent response from a guy like that. He is not a Milo Yannopolis on TV - for that you need an IQ closer to 150 and should have taken 3 lines of coke like Milo probably does before many interviews.

Ah - and you need to have some solid base of Game knowledge or you get slaughtered by bitches like that. Jonah Hill has none of the factors above going for him.

^^^^Solid analysis.

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This is not humiliation in France, having a woman say "I don't want to have sex with fat men, get me your good looking friends" is not humiliation, it is a shit test. And he failed it.

He should have taken off his shirt and then rubbed his big belly in her face.

I would't have handled that well.

I think his best possible response could have been to deliberately pull off his earpiece, stare at her directly and slowly say "There must be something wrong with the translation. It sounded like you were insulting me. Say that to me again...in english." and just glare and wait.

The sham her is that Jonah Hill has made people belive he is a comic/comedian. Comedianso always have the seat to get the shut thrown at them as 90% of the time they turn it into a joke. Any other comedian would of roasted her in return. Any other Comedian would of taken up the whole air of the show making fun of how French have goofy TV shows where a weather girl does interviews. Or going off on how it smells like snails in there or some shit. Since everybody knows your a comic you get away with a ton rope. But Hill is just a fat guy who reads lines so this is what he gets for being a sham of a comic. I don't feel sorry for him even if the broad went at him dirty like that. Any other funny man would of held their own because every other funny man has been through way worse shit on stage.

She went after Jonas for what he appears as... weak neckband and a Comedian. He has no response other to get but hurt.

Imagine if this was Chris Rock. Would this of happened? He would of cut back at her so hard and had the audience laughing at her instead.

This is not the same as the Toronto guy diging up corpses to throw at Tyson with his old legal battle on rape. That is foul and no morally sound for a interview to do. Comparing the two is silly.

That is what happens in 2016 with all these frauds. No different then all these Trap rappers like that young boat/yahti whatever you call him getting roasted for his shirt freestyles. You call yourself a rapper..you go on Hot 97 and canthe rap like the thousands of rappers who have done so before you. Then you get mad and call all those people old for not understanding you...

Same shit.

Know your shit. In this new age you can't hide former if you claim to be something you are not.

Doing an analysis, it does look like Jonah was a step behind due to the lizard speaking French. Even if he is reading translations, it still takes a second to digest the words. To be blindsided by a diss like that, on top of the task of translating and then to come up with a politically correct response to that, is a bit much.

I can't really give Jonah an L for that one. The presence of the tranny was also disconcerting and also serves as an additional distraction.

Quote: (09-18-2016 01:16 AM)Suits Wrote:  

^^^^Solid analysis.

She smelled fear.

Quote: (09-18-2016 10:16 AM)kosko Wrote:  

Imagine if this was Chris Rock. Would this of happened? He would of cut back at her so hard and had the audience laughing at her instead.

I think you're right. A good comedian knows how to deal with hecklers on the spot. Louis CK or Jim Jeffries would have fucked her shit up. Zach Galifinakis wouldn't have fucked her up, but his response would have been hilarious and he wouldn't have given two shits about the insult.

I don't think Jonah Hill ever did stand up comedy like those guys.

Quote: (09-18-2016 01:54 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

I don't think Jonah Hill ever did stand up comedy like those guys.

I think he's more a comedic actor rather a stand up. Any decent stand up knows how to deal with hecklers and would know how to deal with the French woman.

Here's an example of when a comedic actor tries stand up and loses his shit when dealing with hecklers - Michael Richards (Kramer from Seinfeld TV show):

Quote: (09-18-2016 03:58 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

Quote: (09-18-2016 01:54 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

I don't think Jonah Hill ever did stand up comedy like those guys.

I think he's more a comedic actor rather a stand up. Any decent stand up knows how to deal with hecklers and would know how to deal with the French woman.

Here's an example of when a comedic actor tries stand up and loses his shit when dealing with hecklers - Michael Richards (Kramer from Seinfeld TV show):

This is a derailment, but I really like Chappelle's take on that outburst:

Ryan Decucka was insta-cucked by dan bilzerian.

A newbie RVF'er was meta- cucked by a plate wanting to take a load from a plastic dildo.

A2D "educated" us on ancestral cucking via fucking chicks who aren't your race.

Jonah Hill was _____-cucked by the French Weather sloot.

Help me out!

Quote: (09-18-2016 03:58 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

Any decent stand up knows how to deal with hecklers and would know how to deal with the French woman.

Here's an example of when a comedic actor tries stand up and loses his shit when dealing with hecklers - Michael Richards (Kramer from Seinfeld TV show):

On the other hand, Seinfeld was never really funny anyway.

Quote: (09-18-2016 06:55 PM)Suits Wrote:  

Quote: (09-18-2016 03:58 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

Any decent stand up knows how to deal with hecklers and would know how to deal with the French woman.

Here's an example of when a comedic actor tries stand up and loses his shit when dealing with hecklers - Michael Richards (Kramer from Seinfeld TV show):

On the other hand, Seinfeld was never really funny anyway.

It's an interesting exchange.

I feel the key point is; how one is viewed will dictate how they are treated. Jonah's appearance and personality leave him open to this. For a start if he was in good shape, presented well and exposed a more serious personality this doesn't happen as the joke is predicated on the large distance between his SMV vs Leo/Brad's. In situations like this, as the aggressor, one has to assess the target to determine whether their attack will be 'successful'. This was quite a high risk (in terms of potential embarrassment) for the woman to take, it could easily go down the path were she is humiliated by a decent retort from Hill. At the end of the day she had enough context of Hill as a person plus the setting (foreign language) to make the call to go ahead with the joke, on the basis that he wouldn't have the ability to hurt her with a response, to her credit she was correct.

The best form of defence is the one that discourages any attack.

On the contrary, Hill's aforementioned attributes are integral to how he derives his significant income, therefore without displaying these attributes he wouldn't even have the chance to be put in this situation.

Overall- Micro L for Hill for the Macro W. This no doubt would sting a little, no matter how rich and famous people are they are still human and self-conscious.

Jonah Hill is a basic bitch of a dude.

Check out this apology he did for saying something un-PC a few years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMz80FKusUA

Guy has no balls. Like negative balls. Full on man-gina.

Yes, that French lady was a basic bitch too. She is very pretty and has a job of some social status and fame. Can you imagine what kind of bitch she gets away with being on a regular basis? One of the words bandied about is solipsistic. She really doesn't need to take anyone's needs into account because everyone is busy kissing her ass, and she only thinks of herself. Of course she didn't think about how rude her comments were.

But what did she do? She basically said that he was funny, but his SMV didn't match that of the two absolute highest SMV guys in the world she could think of.

Is that rude? Yes.

Is that also true that Jonah Hill isn't as sexy as Brad Pitt? Yes.

Are any of the guys reading this forum as high of a SMV as Brad Pitt? Highly probably not. And if you are, why are you even reading here and need game?

The fact is, not being as sexy as Brad Pitt should not be some blow to you ego and get your panties in a wad. It pretty much describes every dude reading this right now, and 99.5% of guys in the world.

Since Jonah Hill is a basic bitch of a dude he got butt hurt by the comment, and basically called her out for hurting his feelings and then lamely negged her for being a weather girl. Lame.

Imagine if there were 100,000 french girls watching that show. Just because of his fame and funny characters some of those girls were probably already attracted to him. But after that exchange do you think women who watched that had their attraction for him increase? Or decrease?

The obvious answer is decrease. What may have increased is their sympathy for him.

Would you want to trade out a woman's attraction for you for her sympathy for you?? Me either.

So... How should he - or someone with game have handled that situation.

Basically there's 2 options. The 1st is to nuclear destroy her verbally to make an example of her. While it seems tempting, there are so many reasons to not go that route I'm not going to go into it.

The 2nd option is game. What's game?

Game is applied charisma and attraction. Basic psychological tricks and hacks that get people to like you and have sexual feelings for you.

One of the basics of game is Agree and Amplify.

The french bitch suggests having you make her laugh then she has a threesome with two other guys. Your response:

"How about next Tuesday" delivered with a wink and a kissy face.

Her response? Probably something lame.

Followed by game principles Qualify and Neg.

"But you have to send me nudes first. I have to make sure your body is better than your jokes" Followed by full on lean back, satisfied, IFGAF body language and a solid eye fuck as the translator delivers your haughty game to her.

Perhaps followed by a solid "[C]see [U]you [N]ext [T]uesday" for eventual viral shiv dissemination to the Anglosphere, with plausible deniability for film production purposes of course.

What I would give to see Patrice O'Neal respond to her.

"Sorry they only date models"

"If they wanted a weather update they'd just use the app on their phone"

The fact he cancelled and she was forced to apologise has just enhanced her notoriety and fame, which is what she wanted.

Quote: (09-17-2016 03:28 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

Are you guys forgetting? French women are huge cunts with passive aggressive game like you would not believe. Some American who doesn't know French, has a translator and is surrounded by smug French twats doesn't get AMOG'd at all or made to look like a beta simp.

He is simply out of his depth and couldn't articulate a response. He wasn't expecting a roast as someone pointed out and even if he wanted to make a response, the ignorant French will come back spouting how they don't understand English... when there is an English speaking country not far from their country.

Why did she not say it in English? Answer: Because she would look like a moron and he would have fucked with her. He gets to be friends with Leo, she would be another notch on their bedposts and forgotten as soon as the next tramp walks in.

As a French living in France, I confirm girls shit test you like crazy (not all though). If you come, you will be eaten alive haha.

Quote: (09-17-2016 05:41 PM)portofmanteau Wrote:  

Notably Fleury also caught shit in France on her first appearance on the show, where she mocked her transgender co-host seen in the Hill video.

« Bonsoir monsieur-dame, enfin Brigitte », lui dit la miss météo. Les rires sont discrets. Mais elle persiste. « Alors Brigitte on ne te connaît très peu, et du coup je trouve ça un peu excitant, ça me donne envie de faire un plan à trois ». Des propos qui n’ont pas vraiment plu à certains téléspectateurs.

"Good evening lady-gentleman or whatever Brigitte. Don't know you very well, but actually I find that a bit exciting, it makes me want to plan an evening for the three of us" (my shitty translation)

http://www.lesoir.be/1310588/article/soi...te-boreale

So she first made fun of her co-host for being transgender, then a few days later Jonah Hill for being sodomized in a movie and being overweight and unattractive in real life. None of these jokes went over well with the audience and she was forced to apologize for them, but she keeps going for it (continued with the astrobiologist). I hope she keeps it up.

I don't get why mostly all the hate is against the girl: she's fat shaming him and points out he did degrading stuff just for a role (the sodomization part. Actor or not, I would never do that for a movie even for a large pile of cash) whereas he's a fat fuck beta. I'm sure he is famous because he has moderate talent but he can promote that "being fat is okay" and "being beta is okay".

So again, are you mocking the red pill girl or the blue pill guy?
I'm behind her and approve her mocking Jonah and the transgender. We don't want that kind of people! Not all girs are evil...

Quote: (09-19-2016 04:31 AM)James Bond Next level Wrote:  

I'm behind her and approve her mocking Jonah and the transgender. We don't want that kind of people! Not all girs are evil...

I'm would also get behind her.

She's an example of the uniquely French beauty that would almost make me willing to hear a few allahu akbars to get at.

And I agree with your sentiment, sure she's being a bitch but it's for a good cause.