I haven't shared the names of some good night and day-game venues because I know that it risks getting them swarmed with jackasses who will ruin them. I suggest having a private travel forum for more specific information and allow people to post general info in this public forum. Make the bar 250 posts to access the private forum.

Quote: (04-21-2016 03:23 PM)C-Note Wrote:  

I haven't shared the names of some good night and day-game venues because I know that it risks getting them swarmed with jackasses who will ruin them. I suggest having a private travel forum for more specific information and allow people to post general info in this public forum. Make the bar 250 posts to access the private forum.

Why 250? I think 350 or 400 posts is a better limit.

Quote: (04-21-2016 03:23 PM)C-Note Wrote:  

I haven't shared the names of some good night and day-game venues because I know that it risks getting them swarmed with jackasses who will ruin them. I suggest having a private travel forum for more specific information and allow people to post general info in this public forum. Make the bar 250 posts to access the private forum.

@c-note & satoshi: I personally think the entry limit should be 13 rep pint and 181 posts

edit: 182 posts

It is funny how quickly this thread grew into discussion of a private section of a forum.
It looks like we need to start another thread about that. The subject is big. I know someone who has a gold datasheet to post but is not doing so because of the privacy concerns. This forum is missing a lot by not having a private section. But we need a highly repped member to initiate this.... Clean Slate?

Afraid there isn't much I can do. It's not my forum.

I swear you guys better save some for me! Im 16 and have always wanted to go down south and live in South America. Hopefully once I get out of high school and go thru Mexico colombia and Brazil there will still be quality women

Fuck globalism. Fucking liberals flying out to third world countries doing "service" teaching feminist dogma and destroying traditional and unique cultures in the name of materialism and westernization. The increased prevalence of social media and smart phones teaches people to seek instant gratification and approval from their peers (ie attention whoring). HOWEVER, I believe that eventually, something is gonna turn our degenerate western culture away from social justice and we will revert to a more natural state. we are bound to reach the boiling point of liberal globalism with events such as the migrant crisis. Mark my words, in a few years there will be a return to traditional values. Liberals and SJWs are incredibly weak minded. I should know, being in high school I am surrounded by them and have seem them grow up. White self-loathing SJWs are just looking for a purpose in life. They want to feel like they are accomplishing something. My cousin, who I was close to when I was younger, is a full on SJW. Like im talking the pixie cut, blue hair dye, "muh feelings" type. They want to feel like they are in control of something, and their self consciousness and anxiety leads the to grouping with other degenerate pussies like fags trannies and cucks who just want to fit in. Fuck them, they are ruining civilization. When a pussy paradise is lost it means feminism and other social justice movements are winning and we lose a traditional countries sense of identity through culture. Now when I talk about this boiling point, I believe it will happen soon. Globalism and the cheap transport of goods and people WILL fuck us over. Outsourcing manufacturing to China and other countries obviously makes goods cheaper. So we really live above our means. People are now used to this standard of living and cant stand the thought of living cheaper. Chinas economy has just about reached its breaking point. In the next few years, we will have a depression as big as, if not bigger, then what we experienced in 1929. I think once this happens, people will stop living above their means and technology like smartphones will stop spreading to third world countries. If the global economy collapses, people will be more focused on rebuilding their community than being "charitable" by traveling to third world countries to spread unnatural western ideals on traditional peoples. I think rather than just feel sorry for ourselves that the world is globalizing, we should start some sort of effort to prevent the spread of consumerism, feminism, and social justice in other countries. I'm sure there's some way we could help slow down globalism as a community. Why cant we start a movement from RVF? Were a pretty big community, and its increasingly growing. And some effort to preventing the spread of globalism is better than sitting around and feeling bad. Thoughts?

I should also add that I think strong foreign men will always be valued by women anywhere. Its in their instinct to seek men who are the strongest. Women have never been loyal to their "in group" where they see exotic men who could in theory, "conquer" their tribe (bear with me here). Women are fragile, delicate creatures who seek protection and to be fed by males in their tribe or local men. When another non-local group is introduced, if the women feel as if that group is stronger than their group, instictually (think cavemen/primally) they have two choices: Join the stronger group and become their women, or be killed like the men of their group for being potential competition. So if you go to say colombia, and you are 6 feet tall, jacked, and a high-T confident guy, the women will compare YOU AND YOU ALONE to the local guys who are 5'4" and 120lbs of bones and fat. The women subconsciously see how you and your group could take out her local "tribe" and therefore has to make one of the two choices I stated above. Ever see how American girls get over a mediterranean guy with solid game? They just eat up his foreign/exotic value because she sees this one attractive foreigner through rose colored glasses as she will compare this one confident masculine man to American men as an average.

Edit: just realized this is more of a rant and may be a bit off topic but regardless this is what I think could be contributing to the depreciation of pussy paradises

Yeah I don't think it's a good idea to post venue-specific intel in the public forum. It could ruin certain venues. Just look at the number of pageviews these threads are getting- it's mostly lurkers.

Quote: (04-21-2016 07:47 PM)zoom Wrote:  

Yeah I don't think it's a good idea to post venue-specific intel in the public forum. It could ruin certain venues. Just look at the number of pageviews these threads are getting- it's mostly lurkers.

I doubt its specific venues though, its foreigners visiting the cities in general. Guys will read a thread like "LINUX bangs colombia" and then go down to medellin, and they have no game and dont take care of themselves, so foreigners no longer have as much value as the girls get bored of talking to boring ugly white guys. Our reputation as a whole goes down. I think the travel forum should definitely privatize to guys who are like 100+ posts 5+ rep. I'm not there yet but you need to draw the line to at least someone who is a consistently good contributor in at least one aspect of the forum, be it game, life style choices, weight training, philosophy, etc. But the forum has a miniscule effect on the westernization of these countries. Its each countries desire to be like the west, so they want our standard of living, our technology, etc. Cheap plane tickets and increased safety in third world countries increases US/UK/EU travel to these countries, so locals will see more and more of white/asian tourists thereby decreasing our "mysterious" value.

Half the travel threads will be African related in 2050.

I shall Bang Rwanda.

@Cortes: Are you sure you are 16? You are very well spoken for a 16year old. You do sound a bit like Karl Marx. There is no way you can stop globalisation. Us travelling the world (globe) freely in search for poosy is a kind of globalisation too. No worries, if you get access to this tremendous amount of information at 16, by the age you are ready to travel, even in lost pussy paradises you will pull like crazy. Very good points on leaving above the means, outsourcing and political movements. You should start the thread in Politics & War sub-forum!
BTW what is wrong with cheap transport? We benefit from it greatly too.

@CleanSlate: You could start a thread. You are a veteran, and at least have a right for that. Only giving an idea, disregard freely.

If I found a good fishing hole I'd be reluctant to share it with potentially tens of thousands of people on the internet.

Places like the Phils and Thailand are so obvious so it really doesn't matter, but if I found some small village full of 10's that part their legs like the Red Sea there is no way I'd be sharing with any of you (at least till my dick fell off) yet alone some lurker geeks.

Dang... we might find ourselves in the need of actually using some game.

Quote: (04-21-2016 08:48 PM)Vinny Wrote:  

@Cortes: Are you sure you are 16? You are very well spoken for a 16year old. You do sound a bit like Karl Marx. There is no way you can stop globalisation. Us travelling the world (globe) freely in search for poosy is a kind of globalisation too. No worries, if you get access to this tremendous amount of information at 16, by the age you are ready to travel, even in lost pussy paradises you will pull like crazy. Very good points on leaving above the means, outsourcing and political movements. You should start the thread in Politics & War sub-forum!
BTW what is wrong with cheap transport? We benefit from it greatly too.

Pretty sure Im 16 man haha, but Im more manly looking than most 25 year old guys these days, most people think im mid 20s from the way I talk and look (I dont get carded ). I think cheap international travel is a great thing, especially for us men who seek to travel for a better, more traditional lifestyle with sexy women in these countries. But with cheap travel also enables people to travel for the wrong reasons too. What do I mean by this? Let me share an anecdote. Last year I went on my schools exchange trip to France where everyone stayed with a local family. Most people on the trip tried speaking french and wanted to experience french culture and wanted to see the differences in life. However 2/3 of the girls that came on the trip wanted to travel to France for the wrong reasons. These girls were glued to their fucking phones. When we got to see a cool sight like the Normandy beaches, instead of listening to the tour guide they would be taking pictures, applying filters, taking selfies and complaining about the weather or how tired their legs were. Pathetic. They traveled to fill their Instagram profiles with pictures making it look like they were having the time of their lives. For what? Social approval, other girls would get jealous. When I talked with the french girls who were hosting these girls, they would say that the American girls were ALWAYS on their phones, were not adventurous with eating the local food, and did not try to socialize with their host family to assimilate with french culture. They just wanted to travel just to show other people how cultured they were, meanwhile they absorbed none of the culture. They did the same exact stuff they would do in America, but in France. These are the type of people who are giving foreigners a bad rep abroad. But as guilty as people like her are, I think people like RVF leeches are just as bad in ruining poosy paradises. If someone travels just for the sake of getting as much poon as possible without learning proper game and having their shit together (ie jacked, financially stable/independent, truly confident, well groomed etc) you are also giving us westerners a bad rep. But if you have your shit together, you are a love tourist who goes for quality relationships with quality girls, and you do your best to learn the local culture/language I think you aren't contributing to the fall of a poosy paradise. I may not be as well traveled as many guys here, but its pretty clear that if you get guys on rvf who travel just to get as many ONS with local chicks as possible that you are weakening the locals respect for you by just going to try and get local women. It makes the rest of us guys who travel there to be given a label as someone who just wants sex from the local women, not that we have a genuine interest in their way of life, but we also are able to get beautiful women where ever we are.

EDIT:

Quote: (04-21-2016 09:01 PM)germanico Wrote:  

Dang... we might find ourselves in the need of actually using some game.

Germanico's post proves my point. Guys who have no game and travel abroad just ruin our exotic value with the locals and make it so we will have to game them in a similar fashion to western women.

Quote: (04-21-2016 09:24 PM)Cortés Wrote:  

Let me share an anecdote. Last year I went on my schools exchange trip to France where everyone stayed with a local family. Most people on the trip tried speaking french and wanted to experience french culture and wanted to see the differences in life.

However 2/3 of the girls that came on the trip wanted to travel to France for the wrong reasons. These girls were glued to their fucking phones. When we got to see a cool sight like the Normandy beaches, instead of listening to the tour guide they would be taking pictures, applying filters, taking selfies and complaining about the weather or how tired their legs were. Pathetic.

They traveled to fill their Instagram profiles with pictures making it look like they were having the time of their lives. For what? Social approval, other girls would get jealous.

When I talked with the french girls who were hosting these girls, they would say that the American girls were ALWAYS on their phones, were not adventurous with eating the local food, and did not try to socialize with their host family to assimilate with french culture. They just wanted to travel just to show other people how cultured they were, meanwhile they absorbed none of the culture. They did the same exact stuff they would do in America, but in France.

Great description and analysis... and well, at the tender age of 16, you've made it to KingsWiki: http://en.kingswiki.com/wiki/Selfies
(you're quoted on this KingsWiki page)

I'd like to play devil's advocate here: While I agree on the prevailing commentary in this thread about culture and social mores etc, blaming technology and globalism doesn't solve our issues here in the long run. Calling for a global economic collapse and throwing away smartphones is like saying let's go back to candlelight and horse drawn buggies.

Talking strictly from the perspective of bringing girls home, all this changing social and cultural values has simply made women easier to take home, not harder. In a trade off they have lost traditional family values. If girls are enamored with social media these days, feed them what they want. Post pics of you on IG travelling, doing cool shit etc. When change comes, winners adapt. Those that can't, bitch and whine.

Quote: (04-22-2016 01:03 AM)jj90 Wrote:  

I'd like to play devil's advocate here: While I agree on the prevailing commentary in this thread about culture and social mores etc, blaming technology and globalism doesn't solve our issues here in the long run. Calling for a global economic collapse and throwing away smartphones is like saying let's go back to candlelight and horse drawn buggies.

Talking strictly from the perspective of bringing girls home, all this changing social and cultural values has simply made women easier to take home, not harder. In a trade off they have lost traditional family values. If girls are enamored with social media these days, feed them what they want. Post pics of you on IG travelling, doing cool shit etc. When change comes, winners adapt. Those that can't, bitch and whine.

I'm not calling for global economic collapse, and I don't know any sane person who is. I know lots of people who predict it, but I don't know anyone sane who pushes for economic collapse on a global scale, especially when so many guys here have fought hard to establish themselves as financially significant.

The only people I know who want economic collapse are people so desperate and useles that they would rather the world hit total chaos just so they might maybe have a reason to not be expected to produce a god damn thing.

This is the best time to be alive in terms of convenience and technology. Technology alone is not the problem. A culture of sadism is the problem. Technology now affords the purest kind of a sadist lifestyle.

Moderation dies when you have drive thru everything, cheap food, a vast Internet of useless information, apps like a direct IV for attention, enough money to go around to facilitate a party lifestyle for decades, clubs in every town, cheap alcohol everywhere, and electricity to keep cities alive all night.

People with discipline have more opportunity than ever to live the best lives possible. This discipline has been indoctrinated out of an entire gender for the most part. A movement of false liberation.

You're right, this lack of discipline has led to easier bangs. But in a world of girls with self-control and obligations that they actually keep, an element of trust re-enters gender relations, and relationships become healthier.

Sure, we all get less pussy that way, but we all can raise families with women by our side who need us, and we can let ourselves need them. It's fullfillment in the most spiritual and biological sense.

There will always be players. Always. And if you're a player in that kind of society, you reap much higher quality and display a much more advanced level of game than a playboy in Sin City today.

And if worse comes to worst and you're in the season of casual sex, there will always be sluts. Society needs sluts, and it needs prudes, and it needs normal girls, and it needs ugly girls and players and providers and beta guys.

We all contribute to a healthy balance in society, and the variety of lifestyles allows people the freedom to choose what kind of relationships they want.

But today the balances are fucked and the whores disproportionately outnumber the decent women in the West. That's the issue. We shouldn't eradicate the whore, just restore a balance to the Force of pussy.

Without establishing a healthy balance of lifestyles in women, we cannot establish a society of strong family units to preserve our fundamental social values. That's how societies die.

I think pussy paradises will be ruined from the inside more than any sexpat or whoremongers can possibly do.

If you want young woman then there must be large numbers of young women to begin with. Many of these "pussy paradises" are having falling demographic numbers.

Consider:

Thailand the current birth rate is 1.5 per woman.

Ukraine is 1.5

Poland is 1.3

Brazil 1.8

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN

Below is a map of the median age. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co...median_age



That chart is going to look a lot worse in 10 or 20 years with the median age increasing in most countries.

The other major negative trend in "pussy paradises" is the increase in fatties. Even in Thailand, a country known for thin women, you see a number of fat and obese women(granted much less than USA). I work in a Thai school and I would estimate 10-15 percent of the students are fat or obese. I couldn't find any research online which discusses specific numbers of children who are overweight or obese except that this is a rising trend.

In my opinion, for a country to be a "pussy paradise" it needs lots of young, thin women and if negative child birth and increases in BMI continue that will greatly ruin these places for the future.

Which pussy paradises are already lost? Bangkok and Manila, two of the most popular destinations on the forum are still easy to get laid in for the average RVFer and I doubt that this will change anytime soon. The people who you think might ruin those paradises are only ruining it for themselves. They are ruining it for people without game or without a grasp of different cultures. And even if it changes and well known pussy paradises like Bangkok or Manila die, then there is still the option to go to 2nd tier cities like Davao or to countries ike Indonesia and Vietnam. Surabaya, the second biggest city of Indonesia with 3 million inhabitants, is still one of the least touristic cities in Southeast Asia. Maybe the whole situation is different for places like Colombia and Eastern Europe but I doubt that.

Nevertheless, I am also supporting the idea of a private section in which the valuable data sheets are posted and protected from the public eye.

@bacon: Those are the real problems. I read that Romania and Bulgaria are the two fastest shrinking countries in the world. Romanias population decreased from 22 Mio. to 20 Mio. over the past 20 years and according to UN data it is expected to lose another 4 Mio. people in the next 35 years.

The abortion rates in Eastern Europe and Russia are pretty staggering. Something I wasnt' aware of. I look at those birth rates as well and think the world is a lot more liberal place then we all know; just maybe in a much different way

I think I've figured out how to drive traffic while keeping certain info private.

Check out the last link in my signature, if you have access. Then try checking it out after logging out of RvF.

Note: Access criteria isn't up to me.

Quote: (04-22-2016 03:37 AM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote:  

Which pussy paradises are already lost? Bangkok and Manila, two of the most popular destinations on the forum are still easy to get laid in for the average RVFer and I doubt that this will change anytime soon. The people who you think might ruin those paradises are only ruining it for themselves. They are ruining it for people without game or without a grasp of different cultures. And even if it changes and well known pussy paradises like Bangkok or Manila die, then there is still the option to go to 2nd tier cities like Davao or to countries ike Indonesia and Vietnam. Surabaya, the second biggest city of Indonesia with 3 million inhabitants, is still one of the least touristic cities in Southeast Asia. Maybe the whole situation is different for places like Colombia and Eastern Europe but I doubt that.

Nevertheless, I am also supporting the idea of a private section in which the valuable data sheets are posted and protected from the public eye.

Yes that's a good point really. In both MNL and BKK you just need to dissociate with the fuckups and position yourself properly. It doesn't even take good game, just smart choice of attire and people you hang around with, and take care to come over composed, assertive yet calm, etc. Just enough to send a clear signal that you are not LBH ("Loser Back Home"). Then it's just basic solid approaching and you start racking up a harem.

Another point IMO is to approach *as if* you don't realise your white skin is an advantage. There's something about quality asian girls resenting white guys who think they are god's gift just because they are white. It's a balance to strike - a good dose of modesty and humility (asian values) combined with confidence, leading and vibing is a killer combo.

I just don't like those places because of the hordes of creepy foreigners you see, but they are quite avoidable.

Quote: (04-22-2016 04:13 AM)262 Wrote:  

I think I've figured out how to drive traffic while keeping certain info private.

Check out the last link in my signature, if you have access. Then try checking it out after logging out of RvF.

Note: Access criteria isn't up to me.

Tried it. Does not give me access logged in or logged out
Not enough rep. points?

@Ragnar: I was killing it in both Manila and BKK. But I got to the table pretty late. My first visit to BKK was in 2015, so these panic threads made me think that I have missed the times that were even better.

@Bacon: Well this is something we can actually affect. Increasing the birth rate of a certain small country should be no problem for a 20k + 100k of lurkers strong community of RVF. Where should we start?

@jj18: Great thoughts. That is exactly why I've started an Instagram account a month ago.

Maybe people are taking this exotic factor and pussy paradises too literally...

A cool guy is a cool guy...

People are still having sex...

Plus why go to places strictly for the women? Is that what you're going to do 24/7?

Not my place to talk though since I got a year more before I begin my own run and I just can't see why I'd travel for the sole purpose of finding the easiest place to get laid...I know I'm awesome enough to be sexually active ifnI so choose but at sametime if I want sex i "round the clock" might as well stay at homebase since the setup is nice.

Just a thought, no experiences to backup my claims...yet

Quote: (04-21-2016 09:24 PM)Cortés Wrote:  

Quote: (04-21-2016 09:01 PM)germanico Wrote:  

Dang... we might find ourselves in the need of actually using some game.

Germanico's post proves my point. Guys who have no game and travel abroad just ruin our exotic value with the locals and make it so we will have to game them in a similar fashion to western women.

Agreed. Goes even deeper than that though. Whoremongers and low-value deviants aren't the ones who destroy pussy paradises, dudes have been paying for pussy since forever. It's not even just western cultural proliferation. Rather, it is those of us who blaze through online services like tinder, 'cupid sites, badoo etc. which in turn raises the price of pussy in the local market for normal girls who are not a part of the whoremonger/prostitution scene. To girls, shit gets old real fast when a guy doesn't know how to demonstrate real value intrinsically and on the fly, but instead relies on online services to rack up bangs and flags real quick with little to no integration into the local culture. It won't be too long before these girls start thinking they deserve it all (1%er good looks + top notch game)

Yeah, any place where a girl can open her phone and see 500 top-tier dicks to choose from is a lost cause to those of us who don't want to worry about manipulating social dynamics (game). To old school players, the change in female attitudes is much more minute and easily manageable. Real-life pulls are always at-least 1-2 points higher than anything acquired online because real-life requires a prominent display of real value.

As for privatizing sections of the forums, I agree with that. However, I see rep points as the most reliable indication of valuable contribution than thousands of posts as there are a few of us who post selectively and are more concerned with offering value as opposed to spamming the board with the sole purpose of reaching a certain post count. Any user permissions would be better determined by rep points as opposed to post count.

[quote='The Black Knight' pid='1282404' dateline='1461235813']
VR/sex robot tech might stem the tide a bit.

******I see the election of Trump as a check on that since a lot of this militant feminist stuff comes from the US. Furthermore, the fall of that female Brazilian lady leader might help stem the tide in Latin America since she was a huge symbol for the Latin American feminist movement.******

I thing you are little confused, son.