[bacardi123]

not sure whee to put this but something i've noticed from personal experience outside and from websites is that in "the West" (us, uk, australia...etc) mos women are bi, gay or "straight but experimenting"...

It's definitely not like that if you travel to say Russia, Hungary, Bulgaria etc.
I mean sure some gay girls over there 2 but the percentage seems like 5 times lower?

reason?

[aphelion]

I've noticed it's hard to find a girl over here in Poland who even wants to kiss another girl.

[ryanf]

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

Just don't date them seriously.

[Frontenac]

I've noticed it more online. I think it's just another method of attention whoring.

I'd be interested in seeing what that kind of shit does to the mental state of someone twenty years down the line.

[YossariansRight]

Fucking weird is now the new normal. And they wonder why they're looked at and purely pump & dump material.

[bacardi123]

(10-02-2014 05:50 AM)aphelion Wrote:  

I've noticed it's hard to find a girl over here in Poland who even wants to kiss another girl.

sure man, and considering that Poland is heavily influenced by the so called "West" (understand mtvs, katy perry 'i kissed a girl' etc. kind of thing). I've been to Russia, Hungary, Bulgaria and pretty sure it's more rare over there even compared to Poland.

I mean i try hard not to separate people from country-to-country that much, as this could be bordering xenophobia...but in reality people do differ greatly from culture to culture. Obviously even sexual orientation varies from one place to another (...say like San Francisco vs Moscow - you get the idea...).

[Seth_Rose]

The CDC disagrees:

Quote:

Results—Based on the 2013 NHIS data, 96.6% of adults identified as
straight, 1.6% identified as gay or lesbian, and 0.7% identified as bisexual. The
remaining 1.1% of adults identified as ‘‘something else,’’ stated ‘‘I don’t know
the answer,’’ or refused to provide an answer. Significant differences were found
in health-related behaviors, health status, health care service utilization, and
health care access among U.S. adults aged 18–64 who identified as straight, gay
or lesbian, or bisexual.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr077.pdf

Maybe English isn't your first language, but most means >50%. According to those studies only 2.3% of Americans are LGBT. If anything that study shows that people are exaggerating the amount if gays in this country and that people pushing that agenda should shut the hell up.

I won't deny that our culture is fucked in many ways and gender roles have been tossed aside, but your OP makes a bold claim.

[Distant Light]

(10-02-2014 08:29 AM)Seth_Rose Wrote:  

The CDC disagrees:

Quote:

Results—Based on the 2013 NHIS data, 96.6% of adults identified as
straight, 1.6% identified as gay or lesbian, and 0.7% identified as bisexual. The
remaining 1.1% of adults identified as ‘‘something else,’’ stated ‘‘I don’t know
the answer,’’ or refused to provide an answer. Significant differences were found
in health-related behaviors, health status, health care service utilization, and
health care access among U.S. adults aged 18–64 who identified as straight, gay
or lesbian, or bisexual.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr077.pdf

Maybe English isn't your first language, but most means >50%. According to those studies only 2.3% of Americans are LGBT. If anything that study shows that people are exaggerating the amount if gays in this country and that people pushing that agenda should shut the hell up.

I won't deny that our culture is fucked in many ways and gender roles have been tossed aside, but your OP makes a bold claim.

IMO studies like this is BS...

I had a lesbian model friend who used to fool around with a transgender model...How would you classify that?

Thing is, chicks don't say their "gay" or even "bisexual" because they don't actively seek it out. However, majority chicks are bi-curious due to how women are in terms of their internal sexual tension, ability to calibrate and overall emotional stimulation.

A gay guy sucks for women because he has little to no attraction to her BUT some will fuck her for fun. A chick sucks for women because eventually when she wants to be filled she wants dick, not a dildo.

If a man didn't have a penis he'd be the worst case scenario because most men are hungry zombies thirsty to fuck her. So she must pick the best option possible amongst the hordes of thirsty zombies.

From my experience, most chicks are bi-curious, it's rare I ever had convos where it wasn't implied that a woman would be down for having a 3some with another woman. I've also watched my lesbain model friend CHANGE so called straight chicks. (Even some of my own girls fell in love with her)

Women need physical touch/affection and tension relief more than men. Straight guys are just marketed more as the "pervs" because FAPPING is like some comedic joke...

HOWEVER, look at all the webcam sites, amatuer chicks using all sorts of sex toys and MANY like playing with their assholes tasting their juices and all. (I've never tasted my cum and have no interest in it)

Talk to chicks about female masturbation and/or have rough sex and you can tell the internal tension to have sex is WAY STRONGER in a woman than a man. Most straight men are unappealing with their "chasing" ways so more times than not chicks have had to calibrate and makeout with their besties

[TigerMandingo]

Many of them put that kind of shit on their OKC profiles or whatnot because they want you to see them as "edgy" and "open-minded".

Gone are the day when the average Western woman was content with a cock and balls.

[DarkTriad]

(10-02-2014 08:29 AM)Seth_Rose Wrote:  

The CDC disagrees:

Quote:

Results—Based on the 2013 NHIS data, 96.6% of adults identified as
straight, 1.6% identified as gay or lesbian, and 0.7% identified as bisexual. The
remaining 1.1% of adults identified as ‘‘something else,’’ stated ‘‘I don’t know
the answer,’’ or refused to provide an answer. Significant differences were found
in health-related behaviors, health status, health care service utilization, and
health care access among U.S. adults aged 18–64 who identified as straight, gay
or lesbian, or bisexual.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr077.pdf

Maybe English isn't your first language, but most means >50%. According to those studies only 2.3% of Americans are LGBT. If anything that study shows that people are exaggerating the amount if gays in this country and that people pushing that agenda should shut the hell up.

I won't deny that our culture is fucked in many ways and gender roles have been tossed aside, but your OP makes a bold claim.

That's because so many women have "don't count" sexual encounters. Even if she munches rug on occasion she's still "straight".

[azulsombra]

(10-02-2014 12:16 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(10-02-2014 08:29 AM)Seth_Rose Wrote:  

The CDC disagrees:

Quote:

Results—Based on the 2013 NHIS data, 96.6% of adults identified as
straight, 1.6% identified as gay or lesbian, and 0.7% identified as bisexual. The
remaining 1.1% of adults identified as ‘‘something else,’’ stated ‘‘I don’t know
the answer,’’ or refused to provide an answer. Significant differences were found
in health-related behaviors, health status, health care service utilization, and
health care access among U.S. adults aged 18–64 who identified as straight, gay
or lesbian, or bisexual.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr077.pdf

Maybe English isn't your first language, but most means >50%. According to those studies only 2.3% of Americans are LGBT. If anything that study shows that people are exaggerating the amount if gays in this country and that people pushing that agenda should shut the hell up.

I won't deny that our culture is fucked in many ways and gender roles have been tossed aside, but your OP makes a bold claim.

That's because so many women have "don't count" sexual encounters. Even if she munches rug on occasion she's still "straight".

To most Western women, "if it happened in college it doesnt count", is their mantra.

Be right back......gotta hollar at some college girls and see who is down for the threesome.

[kaotic]

Old news.

Mostly it's "bi-sexual tendencies" girls who just make out and grope titties but never fuck another girl.

Read: Whoring for Male Attention.

Slut tell. Also easier to transition into a threesome.

[Nomad77]

I think this is becoming a serious problem in the West, especially with younger girls. Most young girls I know, under 22, seem to have no problems with being with another girl even though they don't think of themselves as a lesbian or even bisexual. They just seem to have this attitude of whatever tickles their fancy at the moment is ok. A lot of these girls mess around with their BFF while they are seeing guys. But I think this is creating additional problems for men. They are building relationships with girls and getting emotional support from them are just using guys for sex now and then and for public image. The real relationships are with the girls.

It means girls now have a whole another group of people to choose from - women. And it's really difficult to compete with a woman. I am seeing a girl who is messing around with one of her friends while she is also seeing guys. She doesn't think of herself as lesbian or anything else. For that matter younger girls seem to not want to label themselves at all. But in my experience these girls usually have a stronger sexual attraction to girls than guys. Sure they like guys and don't mind having threesomes but they like girls more. One curious thing I have noticed is that the more masculine ones are attracted to really alpha guys. When you are very forceful with them it turns them on sexually but it doesn't mean they prefer hanging out with you. A lot of these girls are also good looking. So they attract both girls and guys. All in all I don't think this is good thing for men - just limits the number of available women.

[TheFinalEpic]

This is perfect, I can fuck her, then she can go home to her girlfriend.

[horn]

I don't think this is happening more than before. And kissing another girl or a female friend of theirs is neither gay nor bi. Could be attention whoring but that's not LGBT behavior. Lesbian is going down on a chick, preferring girls to guys, fisting, scissoring, etc. Bi is self-explanatory, but kissing another girl or rubbing her tits while you are fucking her is not lesbian either.

As others have noted, if she's bringing another hot girl to bed I'm all for it.

[Nomad77]

You guys don't understand what I am saying.

1. From a relationship point of view. They are building relationships with girls NOT guys.
2. They are only using guys to go out with in public and to have a superficial relationship with. Because they don't want to think of themselves as lesbians.
3. They are usually not that good in bed for guys because they are not that turned on by them. Even if they are having a threesome it's usually just to please the guy.

The real emotional transaction is happening between the girls not you and them. The guy is just an intelligent sex toy and to break the monotony.

[Lucario]

(10-02-2014 08:51 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

You guys don't understand what I am saying.

1. From a relationship point of view. They are building relationships with girls NOT guys.
2. They are only using guys to go out with in public and to have a superficial relationship with. Because they don't want to think of themselves as lesbians.
3. They are usually not that good in bed for guys because they are not that turned on by them. Even if they are having a threesome it's usually just to please the guy.

The real emotional transaction is happening between the girls not you and them. The guy is just an intelligent sex toy and to break the monotony.

This is a legit problem, I hate this mantra of "girls should experiment", and it is very prevalent in porn aswell, but how does one go about building a relationship with women that overpowers the one they have with their female friends ?

I always believed lesbian game and girl game was the strongest game there is, cause you don't have to be famous or good looking . Take Alec Baldwin's daughter dating some loser short African-America girl.

A long time ago, had a lesbian friend at work, she had an okcupid account and hit of straight girls,...so many of them said yes it was crazy. she got many meet-ups...and she was a 5-6/10 at best...getting meet-ups with hot girls that said they were straight.

Her opening messages were crude as you can get - "hey you look hot, lets meet up, I'll have sex with you and turn you gay".

*mindblown*

Like how is this even possible. I've met guys way better looking and taller than her with good game who have to put in way more work for the same quality of girl.

[Nomad77]

Yep, besides the smartphone the other real competition you have to deal with are other girls! I am not the least bit worried about other guys. When I have to compete with guys, believe me, that's a welcome relief these days.

[Lucario]

Even smart phones are easier to deal with, atleast, at times, you can just be dominant and make her look up.

Same here, guy competition is a relief. My game still needs practice, it is developing, but after seeing what I saw with lesbians and bi chicks in how easy they hook girls, I don't even feel bad about being out gamed by a guy, I ask myself, "what did I learn to improve my game?" or "what did he do better than me?" or "how did he frame it?".

But if it is a lesbian/bi chick that emotionally took the girl you were gaming..well you can't learn any thing from that, I wasn't born with the tools to run girl/lesbian game, for a guy to run girl/lesbian game, that would be like trying to hammer in a nail with a toothbrush rather than a hammer.

And you can't subtly shame lesbian/girl game; reactive.

[Nomad77]

The one thing that lesbian girls have that I do not is the ability of girls to just talk BS for hours. They are able to connect with girls on a level that only women can connect with each with. I suppose it the same with gay guys. A lesbo chick just understands girls on a level that a guy never will be able to. I am pretty damn sure, if I demanded that that girl stopped seeing her lesbo friend she would dump me.

[Lucario]

possible that porn is a big player in all this

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-40966.html

[Carlos100]

One lesson from the book What Do Women Want? by Daniel Bergner, is that almost ALL women are sexually stimulated by almost any kind of sexual situation, be it heterosexualism, lesbianism, group sex, and even bestiality. The only thing that doesn't turn most of them on is man-on-man.

The book reports on experiments in which women were put in a chair that monitored their vaginal wetness, then they were shown photos depicting the above types of situations. They were also asked to check a box with a pencil as to whether the scene turned them on or not. Most women only checked the box for the heterosexual scenes. However, almost all of their vaginas got wet for almost every scene except the man-on-man (watch what women do, not what they say).

After reading that, I now know that I could probably get just about any woman to make out with another woman if I keep a strong enough frame and dominate the situation correctly.

[Nomad77]

Ye, porn is a big player. All of the younger girls watch porn now. But also is has somehow become "cool" to be with girls. It's like an in thing.

[Captain Gh]

I'll never forget what the legend Rick H use to say: All women are actually bisexual or had fantasies of other women period. Far from the truth, but that saying keeps me in check on the true nature of women

[Bacchus]

I've heard girls say this, but you can never know how many followed through with this. The main culprit is that the mainstream media thinks that being gay is cool, so part of claiming to be bi is just grasping for status. The other reason for it is that these girls are huge sluts, so they have few, if any, sexual reservations.

OK Cupid crunched the numbers on the proclivities of bisexuals on the site. Here's the graph for girls:



http://blog.okcupid.com/index.html/the-bi...ne-dating/

The takeaway is that about a third of girls who claim to be bisexual are interested exclusively in men.