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Thoughts on Mark Manson and John Sonmez? - Hegemon1984 - 01-26-2019
Evening gentlemen,
So I'm an avid follower of Roosh, but I've also learned great techniques and tips from people like Mark Manson (especially Models) and John Sonmez (if you're a Software Engineer, you may know him). What's your opinion on those two dudes?
Thoughts on Mark Manson and John Sonmez? - AWright - 01-26-2019
Mark Manson originally started by posting here. He has some good information but a lot of it is watered down for mass appeal.
Thoughts on Mark Manson and John Sonmez? - The Catalyst - 01-26-2019
Check this thread out. thread-35249.html
In particular this post by Krauser.
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I think the book is worth reading but over time my tolerance for Manson has declined a lot and I'm considering Models more like a stepping-stone book that you discard after absorbing the few key ideas. As a practical guide it is utterly hopeless - it's just blind filtering for strong Yes Girls. The actual game advice is worse than useless and will retard the development of a noob who hasn't already begun to get laid.
The value of Models is in the meta-level and not taking shit. There are a handful of very good ideas/frames in there which have definitely helped me...... because I knew enough to discard his feelgood pablum. Be very wary of the Purple Pill content, though.