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The Ukraine Thread III - Blake2 - 11-23-2015
I got some good advice from friends about the dating scene here.
I messaged her again today that I liked hanging out with her and I mentioned some stuff from our first date. Ball is in her court.
If she expected me to be more agressive on the first date, thats her problem. Kissing is a great conclusion to a date and its quite common here.
If she doesn't like my vibe, that just means we're not a match. Confident, persistent nice guy game + meeting lots of people is the way forward.
The Ukraine Thread III - Traktor - 11-23-2015
Quote: (11-23-2015 10:54 AM)Blake2 Wrote:
I got some good advice from friends about the dating scene here.
I messaged her again today that I liked hanging out with her and I mentioned some stuff from our first date. Ball is in her court.
If she expected me to be more agressive on the first date, thats her problem. Kissing is a great conclusion to a date and its quite common here.
If she doesn't like my vibe, that just means we're not a match. Confident, persistent nice guy game + meeting lots of people is the way forward.
Exactly
Dont come across as a needy guy. You have done your bit. Do not reply further. If she replies, great. If she doesnt move on. Meanwhile get out there and meet as many as you can. Nail down 4-5 that you connect with and escalate from there. Out of them, bang 1-2.
The Ukraine Thread III - Beirut - 11-24-2015
Will be in Kiev Late December - Early January.
Im going to another city in Ukraine to meet someone first then Kiev.
I know its bad weather, but any good malls/day spots? (if not for game, then just to hang out?)
Do you guys know of any lounges/chill bars and not clubs? (Im thinking ill look less like a sex tourist there)
ANything interesting for NYE?
And maybe a couple of date spots recommendations?
Its probably a very bad time but SA trip fell through and its better than staying home (i hope). Will be staying near Maydan
The Ukraine Thread III - Blake2 - 11-26-2015
Wow, this place has gone dark now that winter is coming.
A lot of Ukrainian PUA friends have stopped approaching completely.
A couple expats I met have disappeared.
The malls and streets empty out early.
Early afternoon game, with people around, is still ok. A friend of mine swears by online game. Finding a niche is important.
The Ukraine Thread III - Russianbrother - 11-26-2015
To be honest I am suprised that someone still goes to Ukraine right now.
I mean after each jerk got a gun there, you have to have some diamond balls to travel there;especially in Kiew.
It is just a matter of time when they beginn to rob and kill left and right, so as a person who lived most of his childhood in Kiew, I would strongly advise to not spend your time in Ukraine for the next 1-2 years.
Especially now since their Economy goes down and people get more desperate, you can get involved in any kind of crap there.
The Ukraine Thread III - chochemonger1 - 11-26-2015
Quote: (11-26-2015 04:27 PM)Russianbrother Wrote:
To be honest I am suprised that someone still goes to Ukraine right now.
I mean after each jerk got a gun there, you have to have some diamond balls to travel there;especially in Kiew.
It is just a matter of time when they beginn to rob and kill left and right, so as a person who lived most of his childhood in Kiew, I would strongly advise to not spend your time in Ukraine for the next 1-2 years.
Especially now since their Economy goes down and people get more desperate, you can get involved in any kind of crap there.
I would say they need to be provoked before anything happens, and it can very easily. But, IMO they are not natural born troublemakers or haters.
The Ukraine Thread III - Russianbrother - 11-26-2015
Quote: (11-23-2015 10:54 AM)Blake2 Wrote:
I got some good advice from friends about the dating scene here.
I messaged her again today that I liked hanging out with her and I mentioned some stuff from our first date. Ball is in her court.
If she expected me to be more agressive on the first date, thats her problem. Kissing is a great conclusion to a date and its quite common here.
If she doesn't like my vibe, that just means we're not a match. Confident, persistent nice guy game + meeting lots of people is the way forward.
I told that in another post about russian girls, but I will repeat it for you too.
In Ukraine as also in Russia, girls and boys think about foreigners as if they were some kind of retardet morons and pussies, who they can easily fool and scare.
By that I mean that althought their living conditions usually are worse then yours, they still think that they are the uber "shit". This is basically due to the previous history of being part of Soviet Union superpower.
That means, that they think your girls are worse then they are, and that they are a Prize for you.
So you will have to work harder to get her attention compared to some ukranian jerks who can pull off different crap on her, with no problems.
There are no single rules to dating scene, it is as usuall.
You date her, pay all expences for the dinner, and you try to contact her later. So do not wait that she is going to take initiative towards you. Because they think it is "slutty" to do so, and lets not forget she is your "Prize", despite her ex alkoholigal boyfriend who steals her money and treats her like shit.
Date her, dress well, go to places where most of Ukrainian morons would never go (Ice skating, Zoo etc..), spend moderate amount of money, flowers, more flowers.... even more fkn flowers.
As soon as you get invited to her home with familly, 80% attention to her mom.
The Ukraine Thread III - Russianbrother - 11-26-2015
Quote: (11-26-2015 04:35 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:
Quote: (11-26-2015 04:27 PM)Russianbrother Wrote:
To be honest I am suprised that someone still goes to Ukraine right now.
I mean after each jerk got a gun there, you have to have some diamond balls to travel there;especially in Kiew.
It is just a matter of time when they beginn to rob and kill left and right, so as a person who lived most of his childhood in Kiew, I would strongly advise to not spend your time in Ukraine for the next 1-2 years.
Especially now since their Economy goes down and people get more desperate, you can get involved in any kind of crap there.
I would say they need to be provoked before anything happens, and it can very easily. But, IMO they are not natural born troublemakers or haters.
Well I am not talking about average people there, I am talking about morons who started killing police officers first, and after that they did not get punished, but instead got weapons and power to rob people. We are talking about war criminals with nazi ideology, who are now armed and broke as fuck.
So do not underestimate them, you can get in a trouble just by siting in a car,cafee....
Just watch the criminal statistics in Kiew.
I am really suprised that no major assault towards foreigners happened there.
The Ukraine Thread III - chochemonger1 - 11-26-2015
Quote: (11-26-2015 04:43 PM)Russianbrother Wrote:
Quote: (11-23-2015 10:54 AM)Blake2 Wrote:
I got some good advice from friends about the dating scene here.
I messaged her again today that I liked hanging out with her and I mentioned some stuff from our first date. Ball is in her court.
If she expected me to be more agressive on the first date, thats her problem. Kissing is a great conclusion to a date and its quite common here.
If she doesn't like my vibe, that just means we're not a match. Confident, persistent nice guy game + meeting lots of people is the way forward.
I told that in another post about russian girls, but I will repeat it for you too.
In Ukraine as also in Russia, girls and boys think about foreigners as if they were some kind of retardet morons and pussies, who they can easily fool and scare.
By that I mean that althought their living conditions usually are worse then yours, they still think that they are the uber "shit". This is basically due to the previous history of being part of Soviet Union superpower.
That means, that they think your girls are worse then they are, and that they are a Prize for you.
So you will have to work harder to get her attention compared to some ukranian jerks who can pull off different crap on her, with no problems.
There are no single rules to dating scene, it is as usuall.
You date her, pay all expences for the dinner, and you try to contact her later. So do not wait that she is going to take initiative towards you. Because they think it is "slutty" to do so, and lets not forget she is your "Prize", despite her ex alkoholigal boyfriend who steals her money and treats her like shit.
Date her, dress well, go to places where most of Ukrainian morons would never go (Ice skating, Zoo etc..), spend moderate amount of money, flowers, more flowers.... even more fkn flowers.
As soon as you get invited to her home with familly, 80% attention to her mom.
In Kiev, I tried a cheap Sushi chain around Kreshatik and also ordered a bottle of white wine for both of us. Nothing more. You are right... most don't come easy.
But, I don't imagine it would be that different in Moscow or Tashkent.
The Ukraine Thread III - Blake2 - 11-26-2015
I think you have to be somewhat insane to be here nowadays.
Sanity is boring
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Other that, I'm glad I found my niche.
The Ukraine Thread III - samsamsam - 11-29-2015
Random...
Any good Twitter accounts to follow to keep up with Ukraine? Just curious about guys living there and overall Ukraine news.
Thanks.
The Ukraine Thread III - Blake2 - 11-29-2015
I met a forum member last night who said he adds his own feces to cologne to increase "pheremone attraction". I haven't met a single normal wingman from this site...I'm done. Good luck.
The Ukraine Thread III - PeruLover12 - 11-29-2015
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The Ukraine Thread III - Traktor - 11-29-2015
Quote: (11-29-2015 05:56 AM)Blake2 Wrote:
I met a forum member last night who said he adds his own feces to cologne to increase "pheremone attraction". I haven't met a single normal wingman from this site...I'm done. Good luck.
The new H-Block cologne edition.
The Ukraine Thread III - samsamsam - 12-02-2015
Quote: (11-29-2015 05:56 AM)Blake2 Wrote:
I met a forum member last night who said he adds his own feces to cologne to increase "pheremone attraction". I haven't met a single normal wingman from this site...I'm done. Good luck.
Maybe if you drank some Revo your whole perspective would change.
The Ukraine Thread III - Chengiz88 - 12-02-2015
This thread got quiet...have all the "playas" flown south for winter?
The Ukraine Thread III - 262 - 12-02-2015
Poosy hibernates during the winter.
It's happening here in Poland too, and I also noticed this back in the US.
As WestIndianArchie noted, once the temps drop, even on this forum, LTR threads pop up, like clockwork.
It's also likely no coincidence that guys like Krauser hibernate during this time as well.
Happy holidays fellas!
The Ukraine Thread III - Jesus Christ - 12-02-2015
A good player shouldn't hibernate. He should be trying to stick his cock into as many women as possible all day long, all year long.
The Ukraine Thread III - Rocha - 12-02-2015
Quote: (12-02-2015 05:47 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:
A good player shouldn't hibernate. He should be trying to stick his cock into as many women as possible all day long, all year long.
After all you are also a sinner. I knew it!
The Ukraine Thread III - iknowexactly - 12-02-2015
Quote: (12-02-2015 05:47 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:
A good player shouldn't hibernate. He should be trying to stick his cock into as many women as possible all day long, all year long.
Nah, that's like saying you should eat everything possible every chance you get. Things don't taste so good when you do that. As I've said before, even rock stars and zillionaires who could fuck a continuous stream of new models typically don't do that.
That said, I think winter can be romantic, a great time to deepen a relationship. There, I said it- a RELATIONSHIP. Don't ban me!!!
The Ukraine Thread III - samsamsam - 12-03-2015
Quote: (12-02-2015 09:58 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:
That said, I think winter can be romantic, a great time to deepen a relationship. There, I said it- a RELATIONSHIP. Don't ban me!!!
Where is that report button? ...oh here it is. The one with the flying dildo on it.
The Ukraine Thread III - 262 - 12-06-2015
Question from brianmark to the guys in Ukraine now, from a response to my post here (I'm in Poland, not Ukraine): thread-50615...pid1164175
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How's the heat there? Most of the Ukrainian buildings were old and had steam heating, so were usually too warm.
The Ukraine Thread III - cowboy - 12-06-2015
I have an opportunity to spend a couple of weeks in Kiev at the very end of Feb. and the beginning of March. What is the current situation there? I know the weather will still be miserable but I can always put up with the cold.
The Ukraine Thread III - samsamsam - 12-09-2015
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-09...ebt-russia
The IMF Just Entered The Cold War - Forgives Ukraine's Debt To Russia
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Since 1947 when it really started operations, the World Bank has acted as a branch of the U.S. Defense Department, from its first major chairman John J. McCloy through Robert McNamara to Robert Zoellick and neocon Paul Wolfowitz. From the outset, it has promoted U.S. exports – especially farm exports – by steering Third World countries to produce plantation crops rather than feeding their own populations. (They are to import U.S. grain.) But it has felt obliged to wrap its U.S. export promotion and support for the dollar area in an ostensibly internationalist rhetoric, as if what’s good for the United States is good for the world.
The IMF has now been drawn into the U.S. Cold War orbit. On Tuesday it made a radical decision to dismantle the condition that had integrated the global financial system for the past half century. In the past, it has been able to take the lead in organizing bailout packages for governments by getting other creditor nations – headed by the United States, Germany and Japan – to participate. The creditor leverage that the IMF has used is that if a nation is in financial arrears to any government, it cannot qualify for an IMF loan – and hence, for packages involving other governments.
This has been the system by which the dollarized global financial system has worked for half a century. The beneficiaries have been creditors in US dollars.
But on Tuesday, the IMF joined the New Cold War. It has been lending money to Ukraine despite the Fund’s rules blocking it from lending to countries with no visible chance of paying (the “No More Argentinas” rule from 2001). When IMF head Christine Lagarde made the last IMF loan to Ukraine in the spring, she expressed the hope that there would be peace. But President Porochenko immediately announced that he would use the proceeds to step up his nation’s civil war with the Russian-speaking population in the East – the Donbass.
That is the region where most IMF exports have been made – mainly to Russia. This market is now lost for the foreseeable future. It may be a long break, because the country is run by the U.S.-backed junta put in place after the right-wing coup of winter 2014. Ukraine has refused to pay not only private-sector bondholders, but the Russian Government as well.
This should have blocked Ukraine from receiving further IMF aid. Refusal to pay for Ukrainian military belligerence in its New Cold War against Russia would have been a major step forcing peace, and also forcing a clean-up of the country’s endemic corruption.
Instead, the IMF is backing Ukrainian policy, its kleptocracy and its Right Sector leading the attacks that recently cut off Crimea’s electricity. The only condition on which the IMF insists is continued austerity. Ukraine’s currency, the hryvnia, has fallen by a third this years, pensions have been slashed (largely as a result of being inflated away), while corruption continues unabated.
Despite this the IMF announced its intention to extend new loans to finance Ukraine’s dependency and payoffs to the oligarchs who are in control of its parliament and justice departments to block any real cleanup of corruption.
For over half a year there was a semi-public discussion with U.S. Treasury advisors and Cold Warriors about how to stiff Russia on the $3 billion owed by Ukraine to Russia’s Sovereign Wealth Fund. There was some talk of declaring this an “odious debt,” but it was decided that this ploy might backfire against U.S. supported dictatorships.
In the end, the IMF simply lent Ukraine the money.
By doing so, it announced its new policy: “We only enforce debts owed in US dollars to US allies.” This means that what was simmering as a Cold War against Russia has now turned into a full-blown division of the world into the Dollar Bloc (with its satellite Euro and other pro-U.S. currencies) and the BRICS or other countries not in the U.S. financial and military orbit.
What should Russia do? For that matter, what should China and other BRICS countries do? The IMF and U.S. neocons have sent the world a message: you don’t have to honor debts to countries outside of the dollar area and its satellites.
Why then should these non-dollarized countries remain in the IMF – or the World Bank, for that matter. The IMF move effectively splits the global system in half,between the BRICS and the US-European neoliberalized financial system.
Should Russia withdraw from the IMF? Should other countries?
The mirror-image response would be for the new Asian Development Bank to announce that countries that joined the ruble-yuan area did not have to pay US dollar or euro-denominated debts. That is implicitly where the IMF’s break is leading.
The Ukraine Thread III - Barron - 12-12-2015
Give Her The Teenage Romance
The comfort you build with a Ukrainian girl relates directly to how much she can laugh along with you.
This is not about strapping on your clown shoes and being a comedian. Ukrainian girls trust a guy whose humor they can relate to. From the 6ft tall 16 year old to the 28 year old rich bitch, all Ukrainian women trust and follow the man who shamelessly throws out his humor.
I've found that strutting around Kiev in nice clothes and fancy shoes gets me as far as eye-fucking. But as soon as I approached the girl who gave me the gaze of gluttony, my results didn't measure up to the initial interest that her eyes were conveying. However, when I shifted the focus of the interaction around my goofy side, I got much farther.
This change in my interactions can be somewhat credited to Sasha where he discusses being more "authentic" with women. I've come to enjoy giving these girls the immature outbursts that they would never expect to hear. Don't be fooled by their ice-cold stony exteriors. Inside every Ukrainian woman is a 15 year old that just wants to sit in the passenger seat of her 17 year old boyfriend's mustang and laugh as they cruise down the street while he yells random shit at pedestrians out the window.