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"Scantily Clad Russian Olympians Are Making Us Uncomfortable" - Emancipator - 02-10-2014

"When you want to distract the world from a bunch of glaring issues, publish images of nearly nude, very attractive women. The plan may be working, as proven by plenty of enamored men...Many women, meanwhile, have been focusing on the feminist perspective (Ginny Sanderson called the pics "cringey and demeaning")"

smh what a non issue, they do this EVERYWHERE, even here, its called SportsIllustrated

"Scantily Clad Russian Olympians Are Making Us Uncomfortable" - Nonpareil - 02-10-2014

Quote: (02-10-2014 12:26 AM)Emancipator Wrote:

"When you want to distract the world from a bunch of glaring issues, publish images of nearly nude, very attractive women. The plan may be working, as proven by plenty of enamored men...Many women, meanwhile, have been focusing on the feminist perspective (Ginny Sanderson called the pics "cringey and demeaning")"

smh what a non issue, they do this EVERYWHERE, even here, its called SportsIllustrated

'The idea that Russian women are cherished and valued for their beauty is a wrongheaded and dated notion of the Patriarchy! If these ladies came to America, they'd have at most 90k in debt and fabulous careers as HR drones or bank tellers!'

"Scantily Clad Russian Olympians Are Making Us Uncomfortable" - T and A Man - 02-10-2014

Probably the funniest thing is that a chubby, non-athlete, living on the hog on a corporate credit card in a dying, non-productive industry... feels grievance over the state of athletes......at an athletics carnival.

Seriously, is the imagery a caricature?

The flabby finger of a lesser life form, pointing at superior life form pontificating "This is not the way things should be!"

"Scantily Clad Russian Olympians Are Making Us Uncomfortable" - Snowplow - 02-10-2014

Quote: (02-09-2014 05:24 PM)HeyPete Wrote:

I saw some of the skating last night and I immediately liked Kaetlyn Osmond of Canada. Here bloomers or bikini bottom or whatever they call it were waaaaay up her ass and I kinda liked it.

Yeah I thought the same thing! Even my girlfriend was saying how good looking her and her ass is.

The American skater girl was after her and I thought she was ok. She does this weird hair flip thing when she bows.

"Scantily Clad Russian Olympians Are Making Us Uncomfortable" - DaveR - 02-10-2014

Quote: (02-09-2014 07:26 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:

Ok....DaveR are you there?
How do I get Russian citzenship? lol....I am afraid Ukraine will be overrun with feminists in the near future.

It's one of the easier ones if you can plan forward a bit... The rules are not very strict as in most developed countries, but you will encounter a lot of typical Russian bureaucracy. You're pretty much guaranteed to get it if you follow all of the procedures, because Russian pen-pushers don't have nearly as much discretion as their Western counterparts.

Usually you would have to live in Russia for 8 years (visa > provisional residency > full residency > wait 5 years > citizenship). However, you can do a 'fiktivny brak' (fake marriage) which would allow you to complete the whole process within 3 years.

Another option is to use become a "highly qualified specialist", which helps to cut out a lot of the bureaucracy, and also allows you to get citizenship without living in Russia. To be a "highly qualified specialist," you only need to sign an employment contract for 2 mil. Roubles (about $60k) for one year. No diplomas or medical tests, or police certificates are required. But.. it will cost you about $5000 in taxes even if you don't live there. If you're living there, it's a no-brainer because you would have to pay the tax anyway. It's relatively straightforward to set up a company in case you're self employed. I got my citizenship through the HQS program.

If you're thinking about living in Russia for an extended period of time, I would definitely recommend thinking about citizenship. Residency permits are a waste of time because they don't provide much more than regular visas do, and there are annual reporting requirements that take up more time than a visa application would. Your residency will also be cancelled automatically if you spend more than 6 months outside of Russia in a year.

"Scantily Clad Russian Olympians Are Making Us Uncomfortable" - White Trash King - 02-10-2014

Let me see if I have this feminist groupthink thing figured out.....Miley Cyrus, (built like a crackhead) swings naked on a wrecking ball, and she is 'embracing her sexuality'? Yet these women are degrading themselves?? gotcha (how do I attaché that Jackie chan 'wtf' meme?

"Scantily Clad Russian Olympians Are Making Us Uncomfortable" - jimukr104 - 02-10-2014

Quote: (02-10-2014 06:59 AM)DaveR Wrote:

Quote: (02-09-2014 07:26 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:

Ok....DaveR are you there?
How do I get Russian citzenship? lol....I am afraid Ukraine will be overrun with feminists in the near future.

It's one of the easier ones if you can plan forward a bit... The rules are not very strict as in most developed countries, but you will encounter a lot of typical Russian bureaucracy. You're pretty much guaranteed to get it if you follow all of the procedures, because Russian pen-pushers don't have nearly as much discretion as their Western counterparts.

Usually you would have to live in Russia for 8 years (visa > provisional residency > full residency > wait 5 years > citizenship). However, you can do a 'fiktivny brak' (fake marriage) which would allow you to complete the whole process within 3 years.

Another option is to use become a "highly qualified specialist", which helps to cut out a lot of the bureaucracy, and also allows you to get citizenship without living in Russia. To be a "highly qualified specialist," you only need to sign an employment contract for 2 mil. Roubles (about $60k) for one year. No diplomas or medical tests, or police certificates are required. But.. it will cost you about $5000 in taxes even if you don't live there. If you're living there, it's a no-brainer because you would have to pay the tax anyway. It's relatively straightforward to set up a company in case you're self employed. I got my citizenship through the HQS program.

If you're thinking about living in Russia for an extended period of time, I would definitely recommend thinking about citizenship. Residency permits are a waste of time because they don't provide much more than regular visas do, and there are annual reporting requirements that take up more time than a visa application would. Your residency will also be cancelled automatically if you spend more than 6 months outside of Russia in a year.

So let me get this straight.. I HAVE no SKILLS but i can open a business sayin I am an English teacher and use my own capital to pay myself 60k and make my own contract?

"Scantily Clad Russian Olympians Are Making Us Uncomfortable" - DaveR - 02-10-2014

Quote: (02-10-2014 11:35 AM)jimukr104 Wrote:

So let me get this straight.. I HAVE no SKILLS but i can open a business sayin I am an English teacher and use my own capital to pay myself 60k and make my own contract?

точно.

You don't need any qualifications to go through the normal residency route either. So if you're planning to live there, you could get residency and then register as a sole trader so your taxes would be 6% instead of 13%.

"Scantily Clad Russian Olympians Are Making Us Uncomfortable" - jimukr104 - 02-10-2014

Quote: (02-10-2014 12:35 PM)DaveR Wrote:

Quote: (02-10-2014 11:35 AM)jimukr104 Wrote:

So let me get this straight.. I HAVE no SKILLS but i can open a business sayin I am an English teacher and use my own capital to pay myself 60k and make my own contract?

точно.

You don't need any qualifications to go through the normal residency route either. So if you're planning to live there, you could get residency and then register as a sole trader so your taxes would be 6% instead of 13%.

How does it work as a US citizen .Since the funds will be coming from USA am I exempt from Russian taxes due to double taxation treaties?

"Scantily Clad Russian Olympians Are Making Us Uncomfortable" - DaveR - 02-10-2014

If you use the regular residency rules (not HQS), you only have to show that you have money to support yourself (money in the bank). I can't remember the exact amount but it's around $6000 for a year.

If it's money you already have (savings), there is no tax on it. If it's employment income then you have to pay the Russian tax first. After it's paid, the tax treaty allows you to use the receipt as a credit against any American tax that you owe.

"Scantily Clad Russian Olympians Are Making Us Uncomfortable" - Nolecbo - 02-10-2014

NO ONE mention the awesome Norwegian ad that came out for the Olympics:

"Scantily Clad Russian Olympians Are Making Us Uncomfortable" - Zep - 02-10-2014

I wonder how these would fly in the real world. ( I stole AnonymousBoschs' 'empowered woman who own their sexuality' statement, cos' it's good, sorry man )
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or
postcards

"Scantily Clad Russian Olympians Are Making Us Uncomfortable" - rastignac - 02-10-2014

This sloppy Rosen piece represents a lot of what is wrong with contemporary media. But hear me out, or if you prefer just go click on the links and you will get a lot more pictures.

rather than go to original sources, she relies on the Daily Mail hit piece and simply relays all inaccuracies that are there.
the "original source" in Russian is not an "official site" as suggested here. It is an art and design site called AdMe that presents contemporary photography, advertising and objects. It is quite tasteful and nice. It is something like Wallpaper and happens to be the 160th most popular site in Russia according to Alexa. In contrast, Slate is ranked 222nd in the United States. The site is relatively more popular than Slate and she can't even bother to identify it.
the AdMe feature pulls photos from a variety of different sources. The full slideshow is here. Some from a similar feature in ProSports.Ru others from private photographers. Many of the women seemed to commission these portraits themselves, which if you have any experience with Russian women should not be surprising. They are publicity shots, not "sports porn." Note that the UK feature publicized the most sensual profiles.
The frame in the original Russian pieces is femininity: “our Russian Olympic team defies stereotype that women in sport are just a heap of muscles and masculine shapes” a statement that Rosen attributes to a "Russian official" (no, Hanna there is no Borat or KGB official involved) while it is very clearly the editor of the feature for the art magazine. Even the artsy intelligentsia in Russian can celebrate femininity.
This is where W.F Price nails it in an essay today. By using the false dichotomy of forced pixie femininity (in figure skating) to the more masculine image of most American athletes (in snowboarding and skiing), she argues the cultural force behind the pictures is a backlash against the most recent feminist waves. Of course she is culturally blind. These Russian women - from the full gamut of winter sports - are just as talented, hardworking and the self-presentation here is exactly that... it is of their own hand. This is unfathomable. In her world view, they must be coerced.

The last point that needs to be mentioned is the prosports.ru piece above. It highlights the women's history, passions, interests. It offers their thought, inspirations, favorite books (Dostoevsky), academic pursuits. Figure skater Yekaterina Bobrova knits and writes poetry. Irina Avvakumova fought to compete with neighborhood boys on her path to becoming a champion ski jumper. It also provides a schedule of their upcoming events. Rosen is absolutely oblivious to them as people and athletes.
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Instead of mentioning their accomplishments or stories, she offers her "close reading" of some of the photographs. Anna Prugova - who is 20 - is described as “barely legal” and Rosen basically asks us to imagine her being violated by a hockey stick (that "might have more interesting uses"). This feminist fantasy about the above picture - either hyperbole or sickness - ends with an odd critique... at least Sports Illustrated models smile (evidently displaying their teeth) like normal people. Someone should remind Rosen that smiles like most everything in human life are socially relative and not everyone can afford an orthodontist.
The young Russian woman is the "other" of our feminist western women and they cannot understand their existence, not even their smile. I wonder if they know that the majority of young women actually look this good.

p.s. There are nude features of Russian male athletes as well... but that is a whole other story. Off to the gym.

"Scantily Clad Russian Olympians Are Making Us Uncomfortable" - Lucario - 02-10-2014

Quote: (02-10-2014 04:52 PM)Nolecbo Wrote:

NO ONE tell the feminists about the awesome Norwegian ad that came out for the Olympics:

feminists won't have a problem with this add. I mean the male athletes are thirsty, competing for the female's attention by displaying their skills , and then at he end she reveals she is a lesbian.

Just look how many males are shown to be chasing after her.

To a feminist can related to this in that is shows the "I don't need a men for sexual validation" .

Plus Norway is over run with feminism and has many lesbians.

"Scantily Clad Russian Olympians Are Making Us Uncomfortable" - runsonmagic - 02-10-2014

America: "You're not very gay and your women are smoking hot."

Russia: "PROPAGANDA: YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG."

Edit: Someone meme this, quick.