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Douglas High School shooting in Florida - Off The Reservation - 02-20-2018

Quote: (02-17-2018 07:02 PM)Off The Reservation Wrote:

Quote: (02-17-2018 01:55 PM)Repo Wrote:

Quote: (02-17-2018 12:16 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:

Quote:Zelcorpion Wrote:

In this case we have the contrary witness statements and the shooter-drill with duds on the very same day of a school shooter attack. Were they doing the drill with duds usually employing cops (sometimes actors) while on the other side of the school the actual shooter was gunning down students?

Do the people who make a big fucking deal about "Government was performing a shooting drill on the same day, in the same area, as a mass shooting!" ALSO keep track of the times when the Government performs shooting drills without being on the same day, in the same area, as a mass shooting?

I want to know if the false flaggers really think the government hired a few kids to perform this attack, since all the witnesses regardless of how many shooters they claim they thought there were all claimed the shooters were kids. . .. or are they ignoring that part of the story since it doesn't fit the narrative.

Also, was Columbine a false flag?

If the government were really carrying this stuff out as a step to take away our guns, I bet they could make alot more progress giving guns to minority agents and having them shoot up shopping malls.

Carrying out a false flag that requires supreme secrecy by hiring a mentally unstable kid whose parents died, and then NOT killing him when they capture him doesn't pass the smell test.

The narrative that the Communists and their elements within government want to create all over the world over and over again is a "see your thing doesn't work" and we need to step in and take over. They will do anything in order to further their relentless theft of resources and freedom from anyone who has any.

The idea that they couldn't hire a few teens and or frame a few while keeping many unwitting participants in the dark is more far fetched than the story itself. It's actually a matter of US "regulation" that these incidents are created for training purposes and made to look real. Who is to say that this isn't the next one, fitting perfectly into the religion of cross agency cooperation and government school and government authority worship, complete with keep your eyes straight ahead brainwashing and an homage to the piles of shoes in the so called holocaust, with kids tossing backpacks dutifully into a made up point outside the school.

Do you know for a fact, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the footage of the guy walking into court was filmed after the incident? Whether it is true or not doesn't it occur to anyone how incredibly easy it would be to put these small scenes together? Is there any actual footage from inside the school (by thousands of phones or by security?) I haven't seen any and a quick drill scene or a phone pointed to the ground doesn't count. sorry.

Companies that do business with governments who have an interest in destroying freedom openly advertise the capability to put on such events, with up to 400 real life seeming participants last I checked.

One of the problems here is that there is no evidence whatsoever that any of this happened. What we do have is a bunch of kids talking about exercises (again) who seem woefully off cue, and a lack of detail that only the braindead drugged up tv watching masses couldn't catch. But wait that describes most people. I've lived in South Florida for too long, but my eyes are still open. There are certain things wrong with this story, starting with the massive already in place authority presence on the day of drill(s).

Parkland is the nice little corner carved out and neatly cornered off from the everglades which sits far out west boasting stable home prices, the expensive palms, and wide clean streets. It is just far enough away from Chinese drywall neighborhoods, horrible mass apartments, ghetto dwellers run amock in the aging middle corridors of Broward, and the ever present (like the fear of the edge of flat earth) fear of the edges of anywhere so pervasive in striving suburbia. It's a mini police state complete with tanks, but rather than conjure up that image, it gets the oooooh of nice-neighborhooditis when spoken. It's mostly wealthy Hispanics happy not to live in the ratholes they know are back home -- happy enough to keep the Chosen People's real estate profits alive and well, pumping money in one direction so that they can buy the really nice properties (((elsewhere))).

I don't know if this was a false flag, hoax, exercise or other explanation. We simply can't get enough info from the narrow staged camera focus of local and national tv. To forget in these moments that they are masters of illusion and deception would be by far the most foolish mistake.

If it happened it is a sad statement on the anti-functional government agencies and government involvement in education/brainwashing that should be dismantled, an even sadder statement on the lack of parenting and community, and an unforgivable evil by the shooter(s). If it was a false flag or false flag hoax combo then we really do have a sick set of leaders and participants so willing to deceive to further their own theft and power religion, as to be the most serious treasonous threat to this country that has ever existed. What about that would be a surprise? Has anyone been paying attention? Another angle mentioned here is big pharma. If this kid was on drugs known to cause violence why isn't that also regarded as treason? The same Communists who want to break us down can and do distribute debilitating drugs throughout their eugenics and dystopia controlled "medical" system. The drugged up parents who drug their children rather than parent them are a fucking nightmare in this so called country.

I am thankful for internet researchers who may in fact discover pieces of the truth here. I am not one of them, by choice. But I will not even bat an eye if they find out that the crisis actors are Canadians (which they sound like), the not so South Florida sounding names involved are made up in a lab, and the scripts about Gun control so so so ready to be shouted, are just another attempt to get the guns out of our hands so that they can commit the same atrocities they have all over the world when they get their way.

Well that didn't take very long to start finding the actors.

None of these seem like they are from South Florida. If they had been there would have been a sincere "YO THAT WAS MY BOY WHO GOT SHOT." None of this weasely Canadian / Californian sounding BULLSHIT, oh and photos of the "victims" with trees in the background that do not exist here.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1...769150/pg1

"So what do you say to the NRA." CNN

Douglas High School shooting in Florida - Lime - 02-20-2018

Quote: (02-20-2018 11:49 AM)Dusty Wrote:

Look right of USA, its all 'shithole countries', like Pakistan and Congo. The graph would look different when you compare with all the European countries.

Im definitely not against guns, though, but Congo.. Pakistan etc.... Yea right. Like somebody earlier said here, restricting.. 'socialism for guns' (every idiot can have a gun) might not be that bad of an idea.

Douglas High School shooting in Florida - kaotic - 02-20-2018

The left is triggered that Donald Jr. liked a tweet actually calling out the David Hogg kid (son of a former FBI agent)

Douglas High School shooting in Florida - nomadbrah - 02-20-2018

^ You're misunderstanding the graph.

It shows that the US has a rather low homicide rank despite having many times more guns than those countries to the right.

Douglas High School shooting in Florida - nomadbrah - 02-20-2018

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Douglas High School shooting in Florida - Dusty - 02-20-2018

Quote: (02-20-2018 06:12 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:

^ You're misunderstanding the graph.

It shows that the US has a rather low homicide rank despite having many times more guns than those countries to the right.

Also race/ethnicity seems to be a much bigger driver of homicide than gun laws.

We see that within the USA as well, where localities with strict gun control have high homicide rates, which can be predicted by the locality’s demographics.

Douglas High School shooting in Florida - Lime - 02-20-2018

^ nomadbrah, Im perfectly understanding that graph. But why compare the USA with countries were savages kill each other with sticks and stones? The graph makes a false comparison, USA should be compared with Canada, France, Australia, the Euro countries already included and more, and you bet that the relation of guns and homicides will show.

Douglas High School shooting in Florida - BlueMark - 02-20-2018

Quote: (02-20-2018 06:25 PM)Lime Wrote:

^ nomadbrah, Im perfectly understanding that graph. But why compare the USA with countries were savages kill each other with sticks and stones? The graph makes a false comparison, USA should be compared with Canada, France, Australia, the Euro countries already included and more, and you bet that the relation of guns and homicides will show.

You want to compare against those countries? Fine. Here's the data I mentioned earlier in the thread. I got the original data from a Washington Post article from a few years back: http://archive.is/ZO0yx

I selected only US, Canada, Australia, NZ, and the major western European countries. Then I used the "percentage of homicides by guns" to compute the number of non-gun homicides per 100k population.

USA tops the list at 1.54 non-gun homicides per 100k population. In other words, in a country with the easiest access to guns, people are still killing each other with methods other than guns at a rate higher than in other countries. If guns didn't exist, the disparity in non-gun violence between the USA and the rest of the western world would no doubt be even greater.

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Douglas High School shooting in Florida - BlueMark - 02-20-2018

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Douglas High School shooting in Florida - Dusty - 02-20-2018

Quote: (02-20-2018 07:09 PM)BlueMark Wrote:

Quote: (02-20-2018 06:25 PM)Lime Wrote:

^ nomadbrah, Im perfectly understanding that graph. But why compare the USA with countries were savages kill each other with sticks and stones? The graph makes a false comparison, USA should be compared with Canada, France, Australia, the Euro countries already included and more, and you bet that the relation of guns and homicides will show.

You want to compare against those countries? Fine. Here's the data I mentioned earlier in the thread. I got the original data from a Washington Post article from a few years back: http://archive.is/ZO0yx

I selected only US, Canada, Australia, NZ, and the major western European countries. Then I used the "percentage of homicides by guns" to compute the number of non-gun homicides per 100k population.

EDIT: how do I resize the image to show up as smaller?

USA tops the list at 1.54 non-gun homicides per 100k population. In other words, in a country with the easiest access to guns, people are still killing each other with methods other than guns at a rate higher than in other countries. If guns didn't exist, the disparity in non-gun violence between the USA and the rest of the western world would no doubt be even greater.

Now do it for just white people in those countries.

Edit: I’m not trying to be antagonist, I genuinely wonder what the comparisons would look like.

Douglas High School shooting in Florida - BlueMark - 02-20-2018

Quote: (02-20-2018 07:21 PM)Dusty Wrote:

Now do it for just white people in those countries.

I don't know if there's an easy source for those numbers across all countries, for all races, for both gun and non-gun homicides. If someone else here has a lot of time, go right ahead.

Here's the original post I was referring to:
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My point is that this graph shows how futile it is to focus on gun homicides and tying that to the gun culture. It's really an issue of the USA being (on average) a more violent society, but I wouldn't be surprised if the non-gun violence is mostly from inner cities too.

Douglas High School shooting in Florida - AneroidOcean - 02-20-2018

'Concerned’ Mom & Creator of National School Walkout Protest for Gun Control Was Top CNN News Producer for Almost 20 Years

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Clare Schexnyder wants students and teachers across the country to leave their classrooms together, to protest every child and educator who has been killed in a school shooting and promote gun control.

And the Georgia mother is getting much press about her National School Walkout as well as swelling support from all corners of the country. She is getting help from the organizers of the Women’s March too.

Certainly a red flag.

But curiously when reporters and Schexnyder discuss the activist’s plans and background they seem to always omit the fact she worked nearly two decades at CNN as a senior producer, coordinating the same exact type of campaigns for the media as she now proposes under the banner of concerned, anti-gun mom propelled into action by the deadly Florida school shooting last week.

Wait. Anti-gun rally. And CNN, the gun control cable news network.

And CNN and their mainstream media cohorts — in both print, on the web and television — have been giving Schexnyder’s national walkout and other gun-control protests fantastic press.

Perhaps Schexnyder has the best of intentions, as she is raising awareness about school shootings and garnering thousands of students who plan to walk out of their schools in March. One could debate the manner of protests but what is disturbing is the woman’s career at CNN, a network infamous for its fake news. For decades.
And Schexnyder was part of that soiled environment for 17 years, working in numerous roles, including:

Senior Producer for Dr. Sanjay Gupta, Medical Unit 2001 – 2004
Senior Producer, “Inside Politics”, Political Unit 1996 – 2001
Executive Producer, “Daybreak” 1997
Producer, “TalkBack Live”, 1994 – 1996
News Producer, 1991 – 1994
News, Associate Producer 1989 – 1991
Production Assistant, Political Unit 1988

From Decaturish.com:

Clare Schexnyder, a Decatur mom, heard about the massacre on the radio. Then she saw the videos the students recorded inside their classrooms during the carnage. “Then I heard the same continued bullshit from our political representatives of thought and prayers and mental health and I thought, ‘This is never going to stop.’”

She started a secret Facebook group with 400 members to discuss ways to respond to the latest shooting. She went to bed and the next morning it had 2,500 members from all over the country. That group eventually morphed into the 15,000-member strong National Stop School Shootings NOW Facebook group. It has members from around the country and they are planning a nation-wide school walk out on Wednesday, March 14, at 10 a.m. People are also encouraged to walk out of work and their homes during this time as a show of support. The event is being held in coordination with organizers from the Women’s March, Schexnyder said.

The organizers of the national walkout want “students, teachers, administrators and parents walk out of local colleges, universities, high schools, middle schools, elementary schools and pre-schools” to storm out of their classrooms, along with their parents.

But shouldn’t Schexnyder inform those students, teachers, and parents who are following her lead that she worked for the anti-Trump news network before whipping everyone up into a national frenzy first? And then folks can decide if this walkout is grass roots, or an extension of the liberal news media.

It’s called full disclosure. Liberals always struggle with that.

Douglas High School shooting in Florida - RoastBeefCurtains4Me - 02-20-2018

Quote: (02-20-2018 08:03 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:

'Concerned’ Mom & Creator of National School Walkout Protest for Gun Control Was Top CNN News Producer for Almost 20 Years

Quote:Quote:

Clare Schexnyder wants students and teachers across the country to leave their classrooms together, to protest every child and educator who has been killed in a school shooting and promote gun control.

And the Georgia mother is getting much press about her National School Walkout as well as swelling support from all corners of the country. She is getting help from the organizers of the Women’s March too.

Certainly a red flag.

But curiously when reporters and Schexnyder discuss the activist’s plans and background they seem to always omit the fact she worked nearly two decades at CNN as a senior producer, coordinating the same exact type of campaigns for the media as she now proposes under the banner of concerned, anti-gun mom propelled into action by the deadly Florida school shooting last week.

Wait. Anti-gun rally. And CNN, the gun control cable news network.

And CNN and their mainstream media cohorts — in both print, on the web and television — have been giving Schexnyder’s national walkout and other gun-control protests fantastic press.

Perhaps Schexnyder has the best of intentions, as she is raising awareness about school shootings and garnering thousands of students who plan to walk out of their schools in March. One could debate the manner of protests but what is disturbing is the woman’s career at CNN, a network infamous for its fake news. For decades.
And Schexnyder was part of that soiled environment for 17 years, working in numerous roles, including:

Senior Producer for Dr. Sanjay Gupta, Medical Unit 2001 – 2004
Senior Producer, “Inside Politics”, Political Unit 1996 – 2001
Executive Producer, “Daybreak” 1997
Producer, “TalkBack Live”, 1994 – 1996
News Producer, 1991 – 1994
News, Associate Producer 1989 – 1991
Production Assistant, Political Unit 1988

From Decaturish.com:

Clare Schexnyder, a Decatur mom, heard about the massacre on the radio. Then she saw the videos the students recorded inside their classrooms during the carnage. “Then I heard the same continued bullshit from our political representatives of thought and prayers and mental health and I thought, ‘This is never going to stop.’”

She started a secret Facebook group with 400 members to discuss ways to respond to the latest shooting. She went to bed and the next morning it had 2,500 members from all over the country. That group eventually morphed into the 15,000-member strong National Stop School Shootings NOW Facebook group. It has members from around the country and they are planning a nation-wide school walk out on Wednesday, March 14, at 10 a.m. People are also encouraged to walk out of work and their homes during this time as a show of support. The event is being held in coordination with organizers from the Women’s March, Schexnyder said.

The organizers of the national walkout want “students, teachers, administrators and parents walk out of local colleges, universities, high schools, middle schools, elementary schools and pre-schools” to storm out of their classrooms, along with their parents.

But shouldn’t Schexnyder inform those students, teachers, and parents who are following her lead that she worked for the anti-Trump news network before whipping everyone up into a national frenzy first? And then folks can decide if this walkout is grass roots, or an extension of the liberal news media.

It’s called full disclosure. Liberals always struggle with that.

4Chan should make a hashtag that she's funded by the Russians. Heck, it's probably true. Putin's no dummy.

Douglas High School shooting in Florida - Leonard D Neubache - 02-20-2018

From now on if some dickhead in person or on the internet bitches about needing more gun control the simple response is this.

"What do progressive bitches say every time a muslim runs a truck over 200 people? "Hurr durr you're obsessing! You're more likely to be struck by lightning. We can't punish all muslims, hurr durr!"

Turn their own bullshit back on them. "I'll shut up about muslim immigration if you shut up about guns." Of course, you don't need to keep your end of the bargain because they sure wont, but it makes them look like the moronic hypocrites they are.

Douglas High School shooting in Florida - Once Was Not - 02-20-2018

This was being paraded around on the major network's nightly news segments, imagine being this stupid:

http://www.newsweek.com/after-florida-sc...ver-813519

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FOLLOWING FLORIDA SCHOOL SHOOTING, GUN OWNERS DESTROY RIFLES AND TURN FIREARMS OVER TO POLICE

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In the wake of the school shooting in Parkland, Florida, that left 17 students and teachers dead, gun owners across the U.S. have decided to destroy their weapons, while others have given their guns to police.

One video shared on social media shows a man in New York sawing his AR-15 rifle in half, in support of gun control.

"Now, I'm a firm believer of the Second Amendment," Scott Pappalardo said in a video posted to Facebook, which has since been shared more than 340,000 times. "I even have it tattooed on my arm." Although the AR-15 owner said he only shoots targets with the rifle for "fun," he could no longer justify owning the weapon after the massacre at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

"When Sandy Hook happened, I said to my wife, I would gladly give this gun up if it would save the life of one child," Pappalardo said in the video.

"That's five years ago now, and since then over 400 people have been shot in over 200 school shootings, so I guess my words were just empty words in the spur of the moment," Pappalardo said. "And now here we are, 17 more lives lost, so when do we change? When do we make laws that say maybe a weapon like this isn't acceptable in today's society," he asked before using a chainsaw to cut his AR-15 in half.

Pappalardo said he wanted to destroy the weapon instead of selling it, for fear that the gun could end up in the wrong hands.

"I know a lot of people are going to say I'm stupid for doing that, but this was a personal choice. I can't live knowing that my gun's out there and it could one day possibly commit a horrific act like the other day in Florida," he said.

In Boise, Idaho, a man who described himself as an "avid shooter" called on fellow gun owners to join him in turning over their weapons to police, saying he didn't want "anything to do with" guns after the mass shooting.

"I just don't need guns in my house," Kevin Rogers told KTVB.com, after turning three guns over to the Boise Police Department on Monday. "I don't want anything to do with them now, and I challenge everybody to do the same thing."

Rogers said police asked him if he wanted to sell the firearms instead, "because they said they're just going to destroy them." But he decided he "didn't want anybody else to have them."

"If we really want to prevent this, if we really want to stop this, we're going to let the police do their jobs. We're going to give them our guns," he said.

The Broward County Sheriff's Office, which responded to the Parkland school shooting, thanked gun owner Ben Dickmann after he posted photos of himself handing over his high-powered AR-57 rifle to police.

"I am a responsible, highly trained gun owner," Dickmann said. "However, I do not need this rifle. No one without a law enforcement badge needs this rifle."

The Broward County Sheriff's Office tweeted: "Thank you Ben for sharing this" in response to the post.

It seems Pappalardo, Rogers and Dickmann are not alone in that sentiment. A poll conducted after the Parkland school shooting recently found that half of Americans would support a nationwide ban on the sale of assault weapons.

Of 808 adults surveyed in the Washington Post/ABC News survey between February 15 and 18, 50 percent of Americans said they would support a total ban, with 71 percent of Democrats and 29 percent of Republicans backing the idea.

A majority of respondents (62 percent) said they do not feel President Donald Trump is doing enough to prevent mass shootings.

Trump has faced scrutiny from survivors of the school shooting and the general public for failing to take action on enforcing stricter gun control in the country.

In a moving address at a press conference held to honor those who died in the Parkland school shooting and to call for gun control, student Emma Gonzalez called on Trump to take action.

“If the president wants to come up to me and tell me to my face that it was a 'terrible tragedy' and how it should never have happened and maintain telling us how nothing is going to be done about it, I'm going to happily ask him how much money he received from the NRA," she said.

Douglas High School shooting in Florida - CynicalContrarian - 02-20-2018

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Douglas High School shooting in Florida - Off The Reservation - 02-20-2018

http://ussanews.com/News1/2018/02/20/flo...re-actors/

Douglas High School shooting in Florida - porscheguy - 02-20-2018

Quote: (02-20-2018 10:47 PM)Off The Reservation Wrote:

http://ussanews.com/News1/2018/02/20/flo...re-actors/

As I said last night, some of these kids seem too coherent and too coached for what they’ve been through. The question is, are they actors or not? Did anyone check to see if the guy was telling the truth or was he fired due to manufactured outrage?

Douglas High School shooting in Florida - Leonard D Neubache - 02-20-2018

Quote: (02-20-2018 10:25 PM)Once Was Not Wrote:

This was being paraded around on the major network's nightly news segments, imagine being this stupid:

http://www.newsweek.com/after-florida-sc...ver-813519

Quote:Quote:

FOLLOWING FLORIDA SCHOOL SHOOTING, GUN OWNERS DESTROY RIFLES AND TURN FIREARMS OVER TO POLICE

In the wake of the school shooting in Parkland, Florida, that left 17 students and teachers dead, gun owners across the U.S. have decided to destroy their weapons, while others have given their guns to police.

One video shared on social media shows a man in New York sawing his AR-15 rifle in half, in support of gun control.
...

Weren't AR15s banned in New York?

File this shillbut under "fellow whites".

Douglas High School shooting in Florida - Off The Reservation - 02-21-2018

https://gopreload.org/huge-video-evidenc...l-shooting

scroll down and click on the twitter video of him messing up his lines.

Douglas High School shooting in Florida - Brahman - 02-21-2018

Still legal in NY

But banned in NYC

Douglas High School shooting in Florida - Off The Reservation - 02-21-2018

We aren't actors

Douglas High School shooting in Florida - Off The Reservation - 02-21-2018

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Douglas High School shooting in Florida - Samseau - 02-21-2018

If you filter America's crime stats to just Whites, it looks like any other European country. But even then the stats are misleading because Hispanics are often counted as White despite not being from heritage America.

Filter to Non-immigrant Whites and you'll see why focusing on guns is retarded.

Douglas High School shooting in Florida - porscheguy - 02-21-2018

Quote: (02-20-2018 11:55 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:

Quote: (02-20-2018 10:25 PM)Once Was Not Wrote:

This was being paraded around on the major network's nightly news segments, imagine being this stupid:

http://www.newsweek.com/after-florida-sc...ver-813519

Quote:Quote:

FOLLOWING FLORIDA SCHOOL SHOOTING, GUN OWNERS DESTROY RIFLES AND TURN FIREARMS OVER TO POLICE

In the wake of the school shooting in Parkland, Florida, that left 17 students and teachers dead, gun owners across the U.S. have decided to destroy their weapons, while others have given their guns to police.

One video shared on social media shows a man in New York sawing his AR-15 rifle in half, in support of gun control.
...

Weren't AR15s banned in New York?

File this shillbut under "fellow whites".

Lets make it clear, the virtue signaling cunt didn’t destroy his gun, he cut the barrel off. That gun could be up and running in about 5-10seconds. Swap on a new upper and barrel assembly, and you’re good to go. I could install a new floating barrel, gas tube, and a rail on that upper in 15-20 minutes if I take my time to get it 100% right.

You’ll also note, that’s a left handed A1 (w/fixed carry handle). Not many of them floating around. Of course he won’t really destroy it.