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Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - scotian - 11-19-2013

Quote: (11-19-2013 06:40 PM)gamma_male Wrote:  

Scotian,

Had a quick look. Palawan looks interesting. I might include it in my itinerary if I decide to forget about Cebu.

There's some nice beaches there and AWESOME diving, I dropped some intel on Palawan a few pages back (3 or 4) in this thread. All I'm saying is that anyone who goes to the Philippines should definitely check out a beach for a couple of days, you can find a girl in Manila and take her on a bus to a beach from there (not sure which ones are best but there should be some within a couple of hours, maybe in Batangas?). You could also take a girl from Cebu to Mactan island (half hour away) or one of the many nice beach towns nearby (Oslob, Bohol, etc), I'm not sure how bad the Cebu area was hit with the recent earth quake and typhoon though.

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - DirectDanger - 11-19-2013

Quote: (11-19-2013 01:57 PM)gamma_male Wrote:  

I checked swooptheworld.com . There was not much detail. He mentioned that he's working on a book on online game in Asia. Should be interesting.

Read this.... Then send Fisto a thank you note [Image: smile.gif]

http://swooptheworld.com/how-to-bang-3-w...ilippines/

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - DirectDanger - 11-19-2013

I am a big fan of Manila, but scotian is right. You should at least check out some other things the Philippines has to offer. Lucky for you Scotian has been to damn near everyhwere in the PI and can help you out.

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - scotian - 11-20-2013

Quote: (11-19-2013 09:31 PM)DirectDanger Wrote:  

I am a big fan of Manila, but scotian is right. You should at least check out some other things the Philippines has to offer. Lucky for you Scotian has been to damn near everyhwere in the PI and can help you out.

DD I must say, your current Manila data sheet is fucking epic and I wish that info was available before I went there and by the looks of it, there's quite the RVF crew there in Manila now. When I was there I had 20nation and THC with me for a few days but after that I was on my own, still had a great time though, "the bubble" is a great spot. I think Manila may be overtaking BKK as the go to SEA city for RVF guys, we'll see by the amount of meetup posts and trip reports over the next few months. Enjoy guys.

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - JayJuanGee - 11-20-2013

Quote: (11-19-2013 03:45 PM)gamma_male Wrote:  

I'm thinking of 2 options 10 days in Manila and 20 days in Cebu or 30 days just in Manila. Being just in Manila saves some money I think, other than the flight to Cebu, there are some airbnb options in Manila which you don't get in Cebu and you just have to stay in Hotels (also no cooking so you'll get stuck with the local food). What do you think?

Is this your first trip to the Phils? From your profile, it appears that you are in the land of Oz, so therefore, you may be o.k. (because you are closer) if you wait to book your flight as compared with me, when likely, I would be flying on a RT out of Los Angeles.

Who knows, whether there could be some last minute flight “deals?” But shoring up a sure thing and booking the ticket(s) may be better, if a guy really wants to plan to go and has dates in mind and even various specifics.

I may be going through some similar deliberations, as you, concerning how to spend my time, exactly, and what locations may provide for the better set of experiences, because this would be my first trip to the Phils… yet I am also considering having follow up trips (likely to the Phils) later in 2014, as well…. So for me, my first trip that is planned for late January through late March 2014 (about 60 days) would be a sort of reconnaissance to serve for anticipated near-term follow-up trips in late 2014 and possibly other trips thereafter in 2015 and maybe for the next 20-30 years of traveling (that is my current planning). The follow-up trips in late 2014 and thereafter would be for 5-7 month periods at a time (BTW I am currently in my 40s)

I have a disposition that I prefer to get decent bang for the buck, so I am inclined to maul over various scenarios several times in contemplating how to get good deals. It is NOT that I cannot make up my mind or that I am poor or that I could NOT splurge, here and there, but I like to save a few hundred in order that I am better able to invest those savings in the stock market – or whatever other long-term investment opportunities I run across. My target is to have all monthly expenses to be under $3000 a month, including travel costs (though I know if the trips are shorter than the monthly average is likely to be higher).

So my trip would be 60 days and yours is only 30 days, right? As you suggested, there can be a little advantage to booking longer-term housing in terms of costs and also some conveniences of what you get. I am also disinclined to be relegated to eating restaurant food – even though a few times a week for restaurant food would probably be o.k. with me. I also do NOT want to spend very much time cooking (but I want to have good quality food)… so I will probably seek out “assistance” for helping me to cook…. I would prefer spending NOT too much of my time cooking and/or cleaning.

I am a little inclined to think that there are going to be lodging problem issues in the Cebu area in the coming months due to various fall out issues of the recent typhoon and earthquake. In that regard, I have some hesitation about Cebu, and maybe we need to receive some on the ground feedback from some RVF guys, but no RVF guys seem to be reporting from Cebu in recent months.

I get the sense that a guy may be able to look around enough in the Manila area to keep busy for 30 days. Personally, I was thinking about 30 days in Manila and 30 days in Davao, on my first trip… but even that may cause some difficulties in getting 30 day lodging rates in each location in that I would have some transitional issues… well, I would have a two-way flight from USA to Manila, then another RT ticket to whatever destination within the Phils (meaning that I would have to go back to Manila to fly out).



Quote: (11-19-2013 03:45 PM)gamma_male Wrote:  

Is it gonna get too boring to be in Manila for 30 days? is there anything to do there, well other than pussies?

Personally, I believe that I would NOT get bored chasing pussy for 30 days straight (maybe on average of about 4-5 hours each day, give or take). But I may be a different kind of person. I don’t really like to hang out in bars, unless there is salsa dancing involved, and I mean, I can easily spend my spare time in a gym (30-60 minutes a day and then time is needed recovering from that) and figuring out food scenarios – which probably I would continue to eat about two main meals per day.

Also, I can easily entertain myself by going to a couple of different neighborhoods once or twice a week – for example going to Chinatown or going to some mall or to some college campus or even hospital or hotels in other areas of the town. I think one of the advantages in being a tourist is that a guy can walk around a little dumb appearing and meet local people and ask questions that he may NOT ask in his own country….and also to get phone numbers in the process. And, from my understanding people in the Phils are more than willing to be helpful to wandering tourists. I would NOT get bored with those kinds of activities for 30 days (and even I would be o.k. with 60 days wandering around. That’s me. One thing with the wandering around, though is the fricken heat.. For you, probably January is NOT so bad for heat. It seems that Manila has a lot of areas of town and my understanding is that there are a lot of areas of town and different malls that have air conditioning.. but maybe it may NOT be so practical to plan to wander outside in the heat... that will zap a guy’s energy.

Actually, for me, I expect to have to continue to engage in various online work, which I would do from my air conditioned room or maybe I would be able to go to an internet café in the area? I have to do my online work because of various work-related obligations that I seem unable to shake in the short term. Maybe several years from now, I will be freed from these kind of ongoing obligations.. but for the near future, I remain obligated to spend about 5 to 10 hours per week in various kinds of online work activities. Of course, I could spend more time in these kinds of work-related activities, and accordingly, up to 20 hours a week could end up taking quite a bit of my time (in the event that I was bored with other available activities in the neighborhoods).

In sum, I expect my time would be filled with two destinations in 60 days, and with that I am expecting that you could probably find ways to fill your 30 days with one destination, whether you like to go out and drink or NOT. Actually, if you like to go out and drink, maybe that kind of going out / drinking activity could get boring in 30 days, yet I have met people who could spend quite a bit of time exploring drinking-related activities. [Image: smile.gif] [Image: smile.gif]

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - gamma_male - 11-20-2013

Quote: (11-19-2013 09:27 PM)DirectDanger Wrote:  

Quote: (11-19-2013 01:57 PM)gamma_male Wrote:  

I checked swooptheworld.com . There was not much detail. He mentioned that he's working on a book on online game in Asia. Should be interesting.

Read this.... Then send Fisto a thank you note [Image: smile.gif]

http://swooptheworld.com/how-to-bang-3-w...ilippines/

Oh man! this is gold! Thanks [Image: smile.gif]

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - gamma_male - 11-20-2013

@JJG
Thanks for the write up. Here is my plan for now. I wanted to avoid applying for the Visa (as you need it for more than 30 days stay) but fuck it I'm gonna do it and I'm planning to stay around 6 weeks in phils in total.
I booked my flight from BKK (I'll be in asia at that time) and also booked a studio from airbnb in Gramercy building for 3 weeks. Supposed to be good with gym and swimming pool and close to the night life area of Makati. I will try to check out the beaches close to Manila and possibly take one of the girls with me as Scotian suggested.
I haven't planned the rest of my trip yet, but I'm looking into Pawalan now. I'm thinking of 1 week there and maybe 2 weeks in Cebu. I think I will decide about that after my first week in Manila. Maybe I find pussy chasing there exciting enough to stay there for the whole time [Image: smile.gif]

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - JayJuanGee - 11-20-2013

Quote: (11-20-2013 10:15 AM)gamma_male Wrote:  

@JJG
also booked a studio from airbnb in Gramercy building for 3 weeks. Supposed to be good with gym and swimming pool and close to the night life area of Makati.

How much you pay for 3 weeks?

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - gamma_male - 11-20-2013

Quote: (11-20-2013 01:54 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

Quote: (11-20-2013 10:15 AM)gamma_male Wrote:  

@JJG
also booked a studio from airbnb in Gramercy building for 3 weeks. Supposed to be good with gym and swimming pool and close to the night life area of Makati.

How much you pay for 3 weeks?

I negotiated with almost every one who had an apartment in that building and the lowest that I could get was $59 per night for one on 40+ floor with view and shit. (it's AUD but almost the same as USD).

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - JayJuanGee - 11-20-2013

Quote: (11-20-2013 02:50 PM)gamma_male Wrote:  

Quote: (11-20-2013 01:54 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

Quote: (11-20-2013 10:15 AM)gamma_male Wrote:  

@JJG
also booked a studio from airbnb in Gramercy building for 3 weeks. Supposed to be good with gym and swimming pool and close to the night life area of Makati.

How much you pay for 3 weeks?

I negotiated with almost every one who had an apartment in that building and the lowest that I could get was $59 per night for one on 40+ floor with view and shit. (it's AUD but almost the same as USD).


Yeah, sometimes we have to just pull the trigger based on what information we have at the moment, and even potentially suck up the extra costs of NOT having all information that is available.

I think also that sometimes guys will book short-term lodging for like 1 or 2 days and then when they get there to negotiate better situations in person in the area and sometimes even using a local person for such better negotiations.. though I hear that may sometimes NOT work too well if that particular location is booked up or taking reservations mostly ONLINE. Sometimes, that extra time trying to figure it out and searching about for lodging may NOT be practical and may be more trouble than it is worth, unless, of course, if a guy may be sticking around a particular area on a longer term basis.

Additionally, likely, we are going to be paying more of a premium if we bounce around from place to place quite a bit, but if we are just trying to get an overall feeling for various parts, then bouncing around every week or two may be what we want to do.

And, if a guy is going for shorter periods, then it is even easier to travel light. I have NOT quite been able to get down to the point of comfort to travel only with ONE carry on and a personal, as some guys are able to do. Some guys claim to be able to travel really light for even longer periods of time, and maybe it is a kind of mindset more than anything. If a guy has ONLY a few items that he is lugging around, then bouncing around will be less of a logistical problem, too.

I've seen an RVF thread on how a guy can travel light, too!!!. Well, there seems to be an RVF thread pertaining to almost any information that a guy needs, especially if his information needs are connected with banging. he he he [Image: smile.gif] [Image: smile.gif]

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - gamma_male - 11-20-2013

Quote: (11-20-2013 01:25 AM)scotian Wrote:  

Quote: (11-19-2013 09:31 PM)DirectDanger Wrote:  

I am a big fan of Manila, but scotian is right. You should at least check out some other things the Philippines has to offer. Lucky for you Scotian has been to damn near everyhwere in the PI and can help you out.

DD I must say, your current Manila data sheet is fucking epic and I wish that info was available before I went there and by the looks of it, there's quite the RVF crew there in Manila now. When I was there I had 20nation and THC with me for a few days but after that I was on my own, still had a great time though, "the bubble" is a great spot. I think Manila may be overtaking BKK as the go to SEA city for RVF guys, we'll see by the amount of meetup posts and trip reports over the next few months. Enjoy guys.

is this What you mean ?

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - Paul B - 11-21-2013

Quote: (11-20-2013 02:50 PM)gamma_male Wrote:  

Quote: (11-20-2013 01:54 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

Quote: (11-20-2013 10:15 AM)gamma_male Wrote:  

@JJG
also booked a studio from airbnb in Gramercy building for 3 weeks. Supposed to be good with gym and swimming pool and close to the night life area of Makati.

How much you pay for 3 weeks?

I negotiated with almost every one who had an apartment in that building and the lowest that I could get was $59 per night for one on 40+ floor with view and shit. (it's AUD but almost the same as USD).
I believe I offered you cheaper than that! (assuming we chatted yesterday on Airbnb) [Image: smile.gif]

Can't really get better with the location, and the new mall next door should be done by the time you arrive.

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - gamma_male - 11-21-2013

Quote: (11-21-2013 07:24 AM)Paul B Wrote:  

Quote: (11-20-2013 02:50 PM)gamma_male Wrote:  

Quote: (11-20-2013 01:54 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

Quote: (11-20-2013 10:15 AM)gamma_male Wrote:  

@JJG
also booked a studio from airbnb in Gramercy building for 3 weeks. Supposed to be good with gym and swimming pool and close to the night life area of Makati.

How much you pay for 3 weeks?

I negotiated with almost every one who had an apartment in that building and the lowest that I could get was $59 per night for one on 40+ floor with view and shit. (it's AUD but almost the same as USD).
I believe I offered you cheaper than that! (assuming we chatted yesterday on Airbnb) [Image: smile.gif]

Can't really get better with the location, and the new mall next door should be done by the time you arrive.

LOL! small world, hah? about the same, and this one was has view, so went with it.

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - Greyfox - 12-19-2013

If you want to date the hottest possible chicks, go to Zamboanga City. There's an incredible amount of gorgeous filipinas there for some odd reason. Only problem is, its also a hotbed for terrorists.

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - JayJuanGee - 12-19-2013

Quote: (12-19-2013 01:43 AM)Greyfox Wrote:  

If you want to date the hottest possible chicks, go to Zamboanga City. There's an incredible amount of gorgeous filipinas there for some odd reason. Only problem is, its also a hotbed for terrorists.

Are you advising from experience? If so give us a description of your experiences how long you were there, when and what was your game - day or night? And, is there even a nightlife... can caucasans feel safe? apparently your hispanic? does that make a difference?

Since this is your first post, Maybe also tell us a little about yourself and your experience in other places your age and you physical appearance.

Your profile does NOT even mention that you have been to the Phils.... ... but apparently you have been to other countries... maybe you want to mention how those experiences informed you of the phils?

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - DirectDanger - 12-19-2013

@greyfox
Give us some details man!

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - Vacancier Permanent - 12-19-2013

Speaking of Zamboanga, the hottest chicks from the dating site I'm using are from there...has anyone in here been there to confrm it first hand?

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - worldwidetraveler - 12-19-2013

Quote: (12-19-2013 12:50 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

Speaking of Zamboanga, the hottest chicks from the dating site I'm using are from there...has anyone in here been there to confrm it first hand?

I think a lot of them are scammers using photos of actresses and models. You are better off doing an image search if she is really hot.

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - JayJuanGee - 12-19-2013

Quote: (12-19-2013 01:17 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Quote: (12-19-2013 12:50 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

Speaking of Zamboanga, the hottest chicks from the dating site I'm using are from there...has anyone in here been there to confrm it first hand?

I think a lot of them are scammers using photos of actresses and models. You are better off doing an image search if she is really hot.

I cannot imagine some fantasy place of "hot" girls such as Zamoanga - especially, if it is NOT very well traveled b/c of fears of safety.

In essence, the less traveled a place is suggest that "hot" girls are going to flock out of there, rather than flocking into there.... in other words, probably the hottest of the Zamboanga girls are NOT staying there (and they are likely going to Cebu and/or Manila) - of course, there will be exceptions, but I would NOT expect any "hot" pussy paradise in Zamboanga - therefore, it would be good to receive some kind of first hand report(s), especially if my hypothesis were to be inaccurate.... on the ground facts are much better than hypotheses.

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - gamma_male - 01-06-2014

I'm in Manila right now. I'm thinking of going to Cebu for a couple of weeks. Does anybody have any recommendation for accommodation in Cebu?

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - DirectDanger - 01-06-2014

I thought the Tune Hotel had a good location next to Ayala Mall and was priced well for what you get.

But for a couple weeks I would try to get a condo or serviced apartment.

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - Beyond Borders - 01-06-2014

Quote: (08-14-2013 12:00 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

After spending 1.5 years in Thailand I would say that Thai girls only sleep with white guys because they want to sleep in an air conditioned room, they need taxi money to get back to their village, they need a free meal so they can eat (it's why they are so skinny, Thai girls only get fed if they fuck a farang), and they want to get pregnant and move to America.

Probably the same in the Philippines.

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Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - Beyond Borders - 01-06-2014

With all the talk of shit food in the Philippines, I imagine there's some opportunity for a restaurateur wouldn't you think? Or is the market for good for (and ability to pay for it) just too scarce?

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - RawGod - 01-06-2014

Quote: (12-19-2013 01:34 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

Quote: (12-19-2013 01:17 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Quote: (12-19-2013 12:50 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

Speaking of Zamboanga, the hottest chicks from the dating site I'm using are from there...has anyone in here been there to confrm it first hand?

I think a lot of them are scammers using photos of actresses and models. You are better off doing an image search if she is really hot.

I cannot imagine some fantasy place of "hot" girls such as Zamoanga - especially, if it is NOT very well traveled b/c of fears of safety.

In essence, the less traveled a place is suggest that "hot" girls are going to flock out of there, rather than flocking into there.... in other words, probably the hottest of the Zamboanga girls are NOT staying there (and they are likely going to Cebu and/or Manila) - of course, there will be exceptions, but I would NOT expect any "hot" pussy paradise in Zamboanga - therefore, it would be good to receive some kind of first hand report(s), especially if my hypothesis were to be inaccurate.... on the ground facts are much better than hypotheses.

I think you're probably right. I've done some pretty extensive tests of FilipinoCupid (eh, I'm in Australia for a couple of months so it keeps me occupied). To test the hypothesis that some of the smaller cities are poosy paradises, I made a profile that said I was in them and messaged about 50 hot girls. I did Bacolod, Cagayan de Oro and General Santos. All of them are cities over 500k population with minimal tourism. The response rate (25-35%) I got to my messages was no better than the response rate in the larger cities Manila, Cebu and Davao. BUT many of the girls in the smaller cities (about 20% of those who responded) actually said, sorry I'm really in Manila/Cebu now but I just put my hometown on my profile. So in those smaller cities a lot of women, presumably the hotter ones as they are more confident and have more opportunities, have left for greener pastures. I have no doubt you could set up in any those places and kill it, but there is no real reason not just to go to Cebu and do the same while living in a more interesting place.

BTW, as 20Nation has said in his datasheet, Cebu seems to be the place for online game for some reason. It just seems to have caught on among the girls of that city, and a greater percentage of them are online than other cities. Probably because there is enough tourism there that they have experience with actually meeting guys on the ground and getting boyfriends/free meals. Whereas in some place like Bacolod there are plenty of girls online, but they are not expecting (AT ALL) someone to be in their city and take them on a date. So they might be more shy, but in Cebu or Manila you can just get their number and set up a date.

As for Zamboanga, I also noted that there seem to be a small number of ultra-hot profiles from there which are almost certainly scammers. That said, even apart from them, the average attractiveness is high. And given the unique ethnic mix of the city (only place in Phils where Spanish is still spoken) I'd still like to think it really could be a lost city of hot women. Too bad that a couple of months ago, some Moro insurgents landed in the main docks downtown, fought their way street to street, capturing shopping malls and office buildings and taking hostages. There were hundreds of casualties.

Ultimate Philippines Data Sheet: Manila, Cebu, Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan - scotian - 01-06-2014

Quote: (01-06-2014 12:02 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

With all the talk of shit food in the Philippines, I imagine there's some opportunity for a restaurateur wouldn't you think? Or is the market for good for (and ability to pay for it) just too scarce?

There's great restaurants all over Manila and especially in the Fort Area, I went to one that is owned by a Spanish guy and its called Las Flores, here's a link to their menu. The same dude also owns wine bars and imports tons of wine and beer to the Philippines, his wine bar called Barcino is near the science museum in the Fort, DD, its a decent date spot. I also mentioned another place called "La Mesa" before, its Filipino fusion food and I ate some awesome meals there, its a chain and you can find them in Manila (Greenbelt Mall in Makati) and Cebu (Ayala Mall), I highly recommend those restaurants.

Filipino food isn't that bad, the seafood can be delicious, but you will pay quite a bit for quality food there. I actually liked it better than Thai food because I found Thai too spicy overall, the shitty Filipino food is the cheap stuff that the locals eat a lot, sisig, fried chicken, friend pork, fried everything. The 50 Baht street noodle a chicken soup you get in BKK will be more healthy and tastier (although spicy) than the 80 Peso greasy fried chicken and rice you'll get in Manila. When you get out of Manila and Cebu, the food quality does tend to drop unless you're in a tourist area (Boracay, Bohol, etc).