[beta_plus]

Are there non dating sites that can be used for effective pipelining for EE, like couchsurfing.com?

I may be traveling from Istanbul to Sarajevo in May. I won't have enough time in any place to realistically get notches, but I'd still like a chance to socially meet local girls and not be stuck with backpackers and tourists. I know this question will sound stupid, but do things like meetup.com exist over there?

Also, if this does exist, what is the best way to game girls on these sites so that you at least meet them and don't scare them away (at least the ones who aren't pros)?

[Hooligan Harry]

It seems as if Billy wants to turn France into a glass crater.

I approve of his message

Sorry, Ill stop taking the piss now

[Julio]

The thing is most people get bad vision of France because they go to Paris, they have a bad experience with some parisian and then they generalize to the whole country.

It's like I go to england I see a red head girl, I come back to France and I say "all the girls in england are red head"

Go to the south west For example, visit the Basque Country for example and then you'll tell me if it's the same there ^^

[Tresor]

There's Paris and the French desert Julio. Most people aren't interested in what's beyond the boulevard peripherique.

That's why we should write more detailed datasheets on the places we know.

Referring to the hundred years' war and victorian morality to discuss this topic is kind of brutal though

[Donald Duck]

Well the French in Paris seem to like this:

And to be honest, I never experienced negativity in Paris. One gentleman even tried his best to speak English to me and give me directions. Same goes with the French Metro. Everyone spoke English to me. They are proud people though, and that can be good sometimes.

[Vacancier Permanent]

As a Frenchy, I even can't stand Paris and Parisians with their air of arrogance and superiority. For all the cats out there, go to Paris, do see the beautiful and touristy places but for a chill time and fly girls, come to the south of France, specially around June-Oct around la cote Basque (Biarritz-Anglet-Bayonne, St Jean de Luz, Hendaye etc... in the south west) then you will guaranteed to have a drastically different time and experience than in Paris. Oh and to ensure you'll be having a blast, learn as much French as you can, specially in the south.

[darkhorse]

(01-28-2012 08:33 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

I'm coming to the conclusion that there is a basal amount of sex tourism that shouldn't hurt our cause as long as we have good backstory, logistics, game, and language ability. The proof of this is reading positive reports form guys who are going to places where sex tourism is known and still having a good time.

Riga is really the only city that is off the table for me, but if you've been there recently you can see how ridiculous the sex tourism problem is. It's so severe that even the government is getting involved to improve the situation.

All that you have to be prevent is her thinking YOU are a sex tourist, even if you're in a sea of sex tourists. In Poland and Estonia, girls never thought I was one. It'd simply never come up. In Riga, EVERY GIRL thought I was a sex tourist, no matter what I wore and what I did, especially since I looked Italian, the #1 sex tourist group that go there (Brits are mostly the drunks, but Italians go for sex aggressively). If at any point the girl thinks you're a sex tourist, the game is over. So far in my trip, Latvia is the only place this happened.

I'll admit that I overplay this factor. My desire to go to pristine locations may be doing more harm than good if I'm going to tiny cities with low populations and nightlife options. The verdict is still out on third tier cities. I've been to one that had many third tier elements (Tartu, Estonia), and it was boring as hell even though there was a strong university population. Granted it was during the winter holiday season, but I don't yet know if third tier is the answer.

I know this is a old post so thought I'd chime in. I loved Riga but it was definitely harder on weekends, when all the foreign tourists were around. Definitely a city where solo game works better or if you're with a group of locals. I was unaware of the sex tourism problem when I got there, so I just played dumb anytime anyone implied it and acted incredulous when told about it. I said that I was a traveler and want to live somewhere new for a month, to work on my writing.

A few guys were more hostile but I always replied that Latvian women are beautiful but there are beautiful people everywhere. I said I was there because it was cheaper than Western Europe.

So I think that turned the tables a bit, at least.