[scorpio]

(01-16-2012 03:42 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

I can't really say US is the easiest until I go to Australia. I've heard that country is so ridiculous for brothas that it ain't even funny.

True story. A few years back, I met this Aussie doctor who was vacationing in Cali. I asked her what she was doing in the States. She said she wanted to party and fuck as many hot black guys as she could find.

[scorpio]

Women are vicious. The OG's are just laying their wisdom & tactics learned from years of dealing with them.

How many guys have even tried to game top-tier US pussy without having to get married? Tons of props from my end.

[Laner]

I have always said that the USA is the easiest place to swoop women.

In fact at times I ride my motorcycle solo down to some American cities just to meet some different attitude of lady.

On my finest trips I would have a revolving door of women in my hotel after only a few nights there. More then once I had a girl waving as a new girl rolled up.

Of course I have more experience in the US than other countries.

Japan and recently China exposed me to high conversions of sex. Japan especially 5-10 years ago was unreal, with China picking up somewhere short of where Japan was.

Worked two girls in one night in China, twice, and last time I was there for only 2 weeks. Silent sexual revolution going on over there.

Germany has also been very good to me.

But perhaps the hidden gem of Glasgow could be written to be the best foreign spots to swoop gems, if you can put up with being in a rough industrial port city with men who are willing to throw down.

[Deluge]

(01-16-2012 03:57 AM)scorpio Wrote:  

(01-16-2012 03:42 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

I can't really say US is the easiest until I go to Australia. I've heard that country is so ridiculous for brothas that it ain't even funny.

True story. A few years back, I met this Aussie doctor who was vacationing in Cali. I asked her what she was doing in the States. She said she wanted to party and fuck as many hot black guys as she could find.

As an Aussie: that's what happens when the girls listen to and watch Hip-Hop all the time yet never interact with black guys because they're so scarce. The only black guys in Australia are East African refugees from the Sudan and Somalia mainly, and that is a very small community. The majority of "Africans" in Australia are whites from South Africa.

[Samseau]

(01-16-2012 03:02 AM)blurb Wrote:  

I don't know if it's just me, but reading posts between older and younger guys, I believe that there is a real disconnect between the older guys and youngers guys. Simply put, older guys have a different worldview than younger guys, and that is coloring their perception of things.

(01-15-2012 10:14 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

guys live mediocre lives, managing a T-Mobile store or something. Then they wonder why hot girls don't flock to them?

You guys didn't have to "figure" anything out. You guys aren't growing up with society collapsing around you. You guys grew up in a time when good jobs were still available. Having a college degree meant a lot back in the day. Heck, a college degree basically guaranteed you a safety net until retirement. With no jobs, an unsecure future, social security collapsing, young guys have to work harder to attain the same benefits you guys did back in the day.

I'm not complaining or whining about my situation, I'm simply pointing something out that older guys don't seem to get.

Judging from your writing, MCF, it seems as if you are a lawyer or work in the legal system. Guess what? There are not enough jobs to go around for lawyers. It's easy to criticize younger guys' job prospects; however, it's downright hypocritical to have grown up in a time where jobs for lawyers were aplenty, and then go around bashing younger guys working at a cell phone shop.

You guys grew up in a time where feminism wasn't as rampant as it is now. You guys were not drugged with Ritalin and forced to sit still in mental torture for 6-8 hours per day.

You guys grew up during a time when American women were still thin and the obesity epidemic hadn't reached epidemic proportions. You guys grew up during a time when women were not glued to their cell phones 24/7 and text messaging wasn't available. Getting a phone number meant much more back in the day.

You guys grew up during a time where playing by the rules still got you ahead in life. Now, we younger guys have slowly and painfully realized that playing by the rules won't get you as much or not at all.

(01-15-2012 10:14 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Biggest problem with American men - or should I say boys? Entitlement complex.

Shaming language. I thought only feminists resorted to this.

BTW, government entitlement programs being contributed to by us younger guys are going to be paying for your food, healthcare, and well-being. A little appreciation would be nice seeing as we're not going to be able to enjoy those programs in our lifetime.

(01-15-2012 10:14 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Maybe D.C. is bad, but my friends in LA, Vegas, SD, NYC...None of them are bitching like the "alpha males" complain.

Yes, because every single male in the U.S. lives in a large megalopolis city where meeting women is exponentially easier. It seems as if men do not live on ranches, farms, rural areas, and small town suburbia.

(01-15-2012 10:14 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

And guys can say American women are materialistic. So are foreign women. The ONLY difference is foreign women have a lower standard of living, and thus their materialism is a magnitude lower than American women. But it's a different in degree rather than kind.

Yes, because thanks to your many datasheets that you have continuously contributed to the RooshVForum, you definetely have your foreign women game down instead of Americanized foreign women who happen to have moved to the U.S.A. game. I'm extremely interested if you can write-up a datasheet about how you became fluent in Russian, traveled to Russia, and gamed those golddiggers. We'd appreciate it. As the G says,"How about Busting out a Data Sheet or two?"



Look, my post was meant to point out what I think is a generational divide between gamesmen. Older guys grew up in a kinder, better America and it definetely shows in their writing, and it seems as if they can't figure out why can't younger guys "man up," and I'm tired of hearing the same feminist shaming language coming from a writer who doesn't even realize this.

Younger guys are getting their s**t together. We have increased technology which makes starting an online business via a laptop even easier. Innovation is happening. Younger guys are traveling more than they did back in the day. We're checking out of the rate race. Building passive income. It's in your self-interest that we younger guys are successful so that civilization doesn't collapse when you need a nurse to help you pee.

[Hencredible Casanova]

(01-16-2012 03:57 AM)scorpio Wrote:  

(01-16-2012 03:42 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

I can't really say US is the easiest until I go to Australia. I've heard that country is so ridiculous for brothas that it ain't even funny.

True story. A few years back, I met this Aussie doctor who was vacationing in Cali. I asked her what she was doing in the States. She said she wanted to party and fuck as many hot black guys as she could find.

I need to get out there ASAP.

[Partizan]

I have never been to the States but on seeing this, I hope I will be later in the Summer. My brother lives in Seattle with his American wife and he told me that when he got over there first, the women went absolutley crazy for his accent (Irish). I'm thinking that if I went to Chicago, LA, Miami or Houston, would the novelty factor work in my favour?

I lived in EE (Bulgaria) for a year and I killed it there and have travelled and been to Serbia, Macedonia, Ukraine and Russia and do very well. How would the ladies Stateside rack up? I have yet to get my American flag.

[Arado]

Has anyone here mentioned the elephant in the room? Statistically, 7's are much less prevalent in the US because of the obesity epidemic. That alone makes the average 7 in the US harder than the average 7 in a third world country.

Also, you have to do this, and sort it by race. G, Asia is a completely different beast from Latin America. Just look at how Asian guys do in the the US vs. Latin guys. That shows you what the competition is when you go to Asia or Latin America.

For average, stable (solid middle class job), under 40, hardworking, 9-5 "nice" guys who are looking for a girlfriend, it's not even a contest. They would quickly get snatched up in any non-Muslim (or strictly religious) country that makes a per capita income under 10,000.

[MiXX]

(01-16-2012 05:18 AM)Laner Wrote:  

On my finest trips I would have a revolving door of women in my hotel after only a few nights there.

Wow - revolving door of women and you are a) Not a celebrity b) Not tossing around money like you just won a championship, or C) Not the own of a rock-star, and D) Do NOt look like Jude Law, but an average Joe.

Care to share exactly what cities yo were abel to create this revolving door after a mere few days with no local social circle, and no local friends? Finally, what strategies/venues do you use?

Mixx

[thegmanifesto]

(01-16-2012 11:20 AM)ao85 Wrote:  

Has anyone here mentioned the elephant in the room? Statistically, 7's are much less prevalent in the US because of the obesity epidemic. That alone makes the average 7 in the US harder than the average 7 in a third world country.

Also, you have to do this, and sort it by race. G, Asia is a completely different beast from Latin America. Just look at how Asian guys do in the the US vs. Latin guys. That shows you what the competition is when you go to Asia or Latin America.

For average, stable (solid middle class job), under 40, hardworking, 9-5 "nice" guys who are looking for a girlfriend, it's not even a contest. They would quickly get snatched up in any non-Muslim (or strictly religious) country that makes a per capita income under 10,000.

Are we talking easier to get a girlfriend?

Or easier to swoop?

I am talking easier to swoop.

Do girls in Asia (and I am talking girls from good families, not semi-pros) swoop as quick as America?

I have never been.

[Mr.GM]

(01-16-2012 12:31 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

I am talking easier to swoop.

Do girls in Asia (and I am talking girls from good families, not semi-pros) swoop as quick as America?

I have never been.

G, I'm wondering if this is true for Americans with game or for foreigners as well.

My boy Amour four(see Hawaii datasheet) is having a hard-time to get laid in America..and he is a solid player in Rio ,always swooping real quality ass.

Maybe non-americans need to adapt to the american "market" ?

I'm looking forward to go to America this year also.
tks

[thegmanifesto]

(01-16-2012 12:46 PM)Mr.GM Wrote:  

(01-16-2012 12:31 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

I am talking easier to swoop.

Do girls in Asia (and I am talking girls from good families, not semi-pros) swoop as quick as America?

I have never been.

G, I'm wondering if this is true for Americans with game or for foreigners as well.

My boy Amour four(see Hawaii datasheet) is having a hard-time to get laid in America..and he is a solid player in Rio ,always swooping real quality ass.

Maybe non-americans need to adapt to the american "market" ?

I'm looking forward to go to America this year also.
tks

I haven't seen his Hawaii Data Sheet, but it doesn't surprise me that he is having a hard time there.

No one goes to Hawaii in there right mind to swoop unless a) they know locals b) are a pro surfer.

Hawaii is super "loc'd out" and unless you can surf, fight or both surf and fight, good luck to you.

Kona is the "go-to" guy on here for Hawaii info. Again, he kills it there, but he is a local and surfs and is a straight up G.

Yeah, and the premise of this thread was that America is the easiest place to swoop if you are an American guy.

[UrbanNerd]

Isn't this forum basically about trying to bang the best-looking chicks while minimizing effort and spending of money REGARDLESS of the location??

Any American-based guy on this forum knows that they can pretty much hit "middle America" and/or the "lesser known" states (like Vermont, NH, the Dakotas, Wyoming, Utah, etc) and bang chicks all day. You just have to find the ones who are not obese.

The travel comes in as wanting to experience different cultures while banging chicks.

[LostGringo]

When I first read the G's comment, I thought "bullshit". Then, when I thought more about it - he's spot on. I have been to over 60 countries, and I have never seen a bar culture designed to pull women like I have in the US. Also, save for Finland, I have never been to a country where women drink like they do in the US. If you were lucky enough to be in college in the 70/80's, before the right wing took hold and the aids shit hit the fan - damn, it was good.

I would add two caveats though;

First, Americans are fucked up about age. You can't hit much younger women in the State's - like you can in say, Brasil or Thailand - without heavy assets. I'm talking about 50 hitting 25, not 30 hitting 21.
Two, when I get off that airplane, I can become whoever I can pull off being. In the US, you are stuck in your social status.

[el mechanico]

Hawaii huh? Take the dick factor of California and multiply by a hundred or two and that's what you get there.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-16-2012 01:04 PM)LostGringo Wrote:  

When I first read the G's comment, I thought "bullshit". Then, when I thought more about it - he's spot on. I have been to over 60 countries, and I have never seen a bar culture designed to pull women like I have in the US. Also, save for Finland, I have never been to a country where women drink like they do in the US. If you were lucky enough to be in college in the 70/80's, before the right wing took hold and the aids shit hit the fan - damn, it was good.

I would add two caveats though;

First, Americans are fucked up about age. You can't hit much younger women in the State's - like you can in say, Brasil or Thailand - without heavy assets. I'm talking about 50 hitting 25, not 30 hitting 21.
Two, when I get off that airplane, I can become whoever I can pull off being. In the US, you are stuck in your social status.

Enter Las Vegas.

When you get off the plane there, you definitely can be whoever you want to be.

Or really any city that isn't your own.

Agreed with you on the age factor. If you are a way older guy, I can see how other countries would be easier than America.

(01-16-2012 01:08 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Hawaii huh? Take the dick factor of California and multiply by a hundred or two and that's what you get there.

Yeah, El Mech.

You don't know how good you have it in Florida.

Florida is child's play compared to CA or Hawaii.

[Mr.GM]

(01-16-2012 01:08 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Hawaii huh? Take the dick factor of California and multiply by a hundred or two and that's what you get there.

Yeah, the guy is shocked buy how brutal the girls from Hawaii are.The level of rudeness is sky-high,from what he said in his report.
I know that he will be hitting other american cities before getting back to Brazil, I wonder if he will have different results.

[UrbanNerd]

Thanks for the Hawaii insight.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-16-2012 01:14 PM)Mr.GM Wrote:  

(01-16-2012 01:08 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Hawaii huh? Take the dick factor of California and multiply by a hundred or two and that's what you get there.

Yeah, the guy is shocked buy how brutal the girls from Hawaii are.The level of rudeness is sky-high,from what he said in his report.
I know that he will be hitting other american cities before getting back to Brazil, I wonder if he will have different results.

Sh*t, I would have been shocked if he said the girls weren't brutal.

Here is the other thing with Hawaii:

The Competition is heavy duty.

You are competing at night with guys like this:

There are also tons of hoods, and guys can and will fight. They are tough as sh*t.

Guys there paddle between islands on paddle boards. Guys jump off cliffs. Guys go spearfishing with no scuba gear. They are born and bred that way.

And if you front? Lord help you. You will get your card pulled. And pulled fast.

On top of that, girls think if you aren't hard, or can't surf, you are a dork.

You could kill it in all parts of the world, but if you don't have the right vibe, prepare to get slaughtered in Hawaii.

[el mechanico]

(01-16-2012 01:14 PM)Mr.GM Wrote:  

(01-16-2012 01:08 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Hawaii huh? Take the dick factor of California and multiply by a hundred or two and that's what you get there.

Yeah, the guy is shocked buy how brutal the girls from Hawaii are.The level of rudeness is sky-high,from what he said in his report.
I know that he will be hitting other american cities before getting back to Brazil, I wonder if he will have different results.

He will. Hawaii is the worst with Cali trailing behind. A week stay in TX is probably in order to decompress and get ready to deal with normal real people.
Ohh and NOT Austin

[Hencredible Casanova]

(01-16-2012 01:21 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-16-2012 01:14 PM)Mr.GM Wrote:  

(01-16-2012 01:08 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Hawaii huh? Take the dick factor of California and multiply by a hundred or two and that's what you get there.

Yeah, the guy is shocked buy how brutal the girls from Hawaii are.The level of rudeness is sky-high,from what he said in his report.
I know that he will be hitting other american cities before getting back to Brazil, I wonder if he will have different results.

Sh*t, I would have been shocked if he said the girls weren't brutal.

Here is the other thing with Hawaii:

The Competition is heavy duty.

You are competing at night with guys like this:

There are also tons of hoods, and guys can and will fight. They are tough as sh*t.

Guys there paddle between islands on paddle boards. Guys jump off cliffs. Guys go spearfishing with no scuba gear. They are born and bred that way.

And if you front? Lord help you. You will get your card pulled. And pulled fast.

On top of that, girls think if you aren't hard, or can't surf, you are a dork.

You could kill it in all parts of the world, but if you don't have the right vibe, prepare to get slaughtered in Hawaii.

One of my best friends in the Bay Area spent eight years of his adult life living in Honolulu. He said it took him two years to make a close friend. This is coming from a social guy who managed a music venue out there and was a trained playwright and actor. Wild.

[mikeymike]

(01-16-2012 12:52 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Yeah, and the premise of this thread was that America is the easiest place to swoop if you are an American guy.

I think you can expand that to Americas the easiest place to pick up if you're from most 1st world countries... Western Europe, Australia....If you're decent looking, have a little style and an accent you'll be doing better in the States then you will be in your home country.

I haven't been to Colombia, Eastern Europe or Thailand yet so maybe i'll think differently but none of the 3 seem to be about quick lays they seem to be girls who will do what it takes to get a relationship that you can take advantage of, but for girls who just want to get down with nothing past that...that's a market american girls have cornered.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-16-2012 01:31 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(01-16-2012 01:21 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-16-2012 01:14 PM)Mr.GM Wrote:  

(01-16-2012 01:08 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Hawaii huh? Take the dick factor of California and multiply by a hundred or two and that's what you get there.

Yeah, the guy is shocked buy how brutal the girls from Hawaii are.The level of rudeness is sky-high,from what he said in his report.
I know that he will be hitting other american cities before getting back to Brazil, I wonder if he will have different results.

Sh*t, I would have been shocked if he said the girls weren't brutal.

Here is the other thing with Hawaii:

The Competition is heavy duty.

You are competing at night with guys like this:

There are also tons of hoods, and guys can and will fight. They are tough as sh*t.

Guys there paddle between islands on paddle boards. Guys jump off cliffs. Guys go spearfishing with no scuba gear. They are born and bred that way.

And if you front? Lord help you. You will get your card pulled. And pulled fast.

On top of that, girls think if you aren't hard, or can't surf, you are a dork.

You could kill it in all parts of the world, but if you don't have the right vibe, prepare to get slaughtered in Hawaii.

One of my best friends in the Bay Area spent eight years of his adult life living in Honolulu. He said it took him two years to make a close friend. This is coming from a social guy who managed a music venue out there and was a trained playwright and actor. Wild.

Yeah, if anyone wants a little insight into Hawaii and the vibe there, watch this video.

Warrior Culture.

And Respect is at a premium.

[el mechanico]

Fuck that dude! I'm trying not to rant but those dicks don't own fucking water. Like I said even the Cali surfers are dicks. The best ones (pro) didn't even like dealing with those dicks. Keep out howlies and all that shit fuck you!

[mofo]

(01-16-2012 01:40 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-16-2012 01:31 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(01-16-2012 01:21 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-16-2012 01:14 PM)Mr.GM Wrote:  

(01-16-2012 01:08 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Hawaii huh? Take the dick factor of California and multiply by a hundred or two and that's what you get there.

Yeah, the guy is shocked buy how brutal the girls from Hawaii are.The level of rudeness is sky-high,from what he said in his report.
I know that he will be hitting other american cities before getting back to Brazil, I wonder if he will have different results.

Sh*t, I would have been shocked if he said the girls weren't brutal.

Here is the other thing with Hawaii:

The Competition is heavy duty.

You are competing at night with guys like this:

There are also tons of hoods, and guys can and will fight. They are tough as sh*t.

Guys there paddle between islands on paddle boards. Guys jump off cliffs. Guys go spearfishing with no scuba gear. They are born and bred that way.

And if you front? Lord help you. You will get your card pulled. And pulled fast.

On top of that, girls think if you aren't hard, or can't surf, you are a dork.

You could kill it in all parts of the world, but if you don't have the right vibe, prepare to get slaughtered in Hawaii.

One of my best friends in the Bay Area spent eight years of his adult life living in Honolulu. He said it took him two years to make a close friend. This is coming from a social guy who managed a music venue out there and was a trained playwright and actor. Wild.

Yeah, if anyone wants a little insight into Hawaii and the vibe there, watch this video.

Warrior Culture.

And Respect is at a premium.

Interesting