[Deluge]

(01-09-2012 01:59 AM)Openbar Wrote:  

Self-choking is a common female masturbatory technique.

Auto-erotic asphyxiation deaths are more prevalent in males then females.

[RSP]

I think I'm doing it wrong. I brought a girl home Friday night who claimed to be a virgin. I roughhoused her in bed, to the point she walked out half way through, dragged her friend off my mate in the other room and went home.

Any pointers?

[keepreal]

(12-28-2011 04:11 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(12-28-2011 04:04 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I heard a theory that it goes back to the caveman days. Rape was so common on those days that women just had to accept it. Their brain evolved to a point were they just accepted being physically dominated and even started to enjoy it, as a survival mechanism. When they knew they were about to be raped they learned to not fight back, because fighting back lead to more serious injury or death.

Just a theory

"The good ole days"

Nah, back then there was pretty well defined moral rules, and women are protected by family and husbands like any tribal society, women just to be submissive to someone that is dominant so they can feel they are protected. Getting choked is just a way of submission and plus the slight of lack of oxygen increases endorphins.

[aphelion]

Yes. Do not crush the trachea, it is painful and possibly damaging if you go too buck wild on her and you have an iron grip. The essence of your motion shouldn't be to hurt her, it should be to show your dominance and the threat of completely having your way with her if you choose, and of course the aforementioned lightheadedness. Girls want the upsides of the behavior without the drawbacks (injury, pain), a completely reasonable request of course.

[Architekt]

Last girl I was with actually tried to choke me. Can't say I didn't enjoy it, but it was a weird sensation, to say the least. Needless to say I choked that bitch back.

[Icarus]

Bump.

[Snowflake]

Reading that D&P thread brings back memories man... That post is pretty much what got me into game; I was so curious about it. My young, naive mind could just not comprehend it. Women love to be choked? How? Why?

From then on curiosity got the best of me. When I first really started exposing myself to game knowledge and the Red Pill it was intoxicating. I could not stop.

Back to the OT. It's funny as hell what Architekt wrote back in 2012. I just dropped a post on the +1 thread just about that.

Choking girls is an art. It is one of the most intimate and affectionate things you can do to girls in my mind. It has become my signature move with every mini-LTR or straight up LTR I've had. I always get mixed reactions at the start (especially with girls who have never tried it) but always the same in the end: they love it.

With time a player learns to gauge girls first; to test them. Some, the sky-high notch count whores, will start moaning the second you secure your grip on their neck and won't be satisfied until you've clamped down hard enough to fucking kill her if you keep the pressure up too long; others prefer milder forms of choking, where squeezing their neck would be a more appropriate term rather than "choking".

What Mike wrote in his masterful post is everything you will ever need to know. I might add for those who just started dabbling in choking... take it slow in the beginning. If you go all out with a girl who has never tried it you might just end up scaring her. I always rest my hand around their neck for a few seconds just to make her comfortable and hint at what's going to happen to her soon. If I'm doing it while missionary (I usually only choke girls during sex but doing it during a particularly passionate kiss or while fooling around works too, of course) I'll get up close to her and start telling her she is my little slut, while gradually upping the pressure and going for deep, long strokes.
During doggy it's even better. I'll just reach around her neck and bring her upright, close to me - again, I'll whisper something particularly elegant and sober. That, combined with their (usually) sweaty and puffy faces with messy hair etc makes up for some pretty unique romantic scenes. My last LTR could not stop going on about how much she loved when I pulled her up like that. If you're somewhat muscular it feels incredibly dominating on a girl.

Anyways, got a little carried away there. I am glad Mike wrote that post. Here's to choking!

[Ringo]

Reposting from another thread:

(07-07-2016 05:07 PM)Ringo Wrote:  

(07-06-2016 12:30 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

hold her body down in general so she feels sort of forced into place.

Grappling changed the way I have sex.

A couple of years ago when I had just started I'd practice holds and submissions on girls and found they loved being crammed, mushed, feeling your bodyweight really weigh down and pressure them into constricted positions.

Powefucking has is time and place, but mostly I prefer not being a human jackhammer. This kind of "pressure" fucking really makes up for it in intimacy and intensity. If you're doing it right, even if you go slow they'll be sweating and huffing real quick.

The most basic way of feeling their reaction to this is through the tight/bear hug - she feels warm, protected, but also senses your power.

The most intense - for example - would be fucking them missionary but putting one (or both) of her legs over your shoulder, folding their arms close to their body, pressuring down on them and sort of holding the back of their neck while you bang away. Similar to a baby pose in yoga or a double under pass in BJJ (below) - except her arms should be tightly pressed between her chest and legs.


Choking (air or blood) works great along with these mushing positions. But many girls have an instinctual reaction to not let you squeeze their necks with your fingers.

I found that setting up a sneaky pressure choke actually increases their pleasure - and mine - without running the risk of them not allowing it. They barely notice it's happening, all they know is it feels good.

What you do when you're on top is pressure her neck in between your arm and her arm, like a head and arm/katagatame choke:


It requires some finesse - you don't want to strongarm your way into choking her. But if you ever had this done to you in grappling or otherwise you know that just by getting into the position tightly you can already feel lightheaded from the oxygen being cut out from your brain. That's all you need in order to get the girl feeling nice and spaced out.

If the chick is mounted and has her back to you, kneeling or on all fours, you can use a RNC or variation:


If anyone's interested but has never had experience doing this, I highly recommend it. But for the love of God go easy and feel it out at first. Never, ever crank necks or do sudden movements. Never, ever go too tight or hold for too long - keep your eyes on your partner.

I love doing this stuff because besides the dominance and power aspects (which are plus points both for you and the girl) there's a heavy physical side to it. It's intense. It's different from everything they do day to day. It breaks their mundane trance, drives them to connection with you and being in the moment - and losing themselves in it.

Plus it will keep your submission game sharp as hell.

[slppryslp]

Its a dominance thing. And any time you can get a womans heart to beat faster it will make her turned on.

[torridon747]

I always go for the choke, no complaints yet