[Docter]

have you tried not wanking soup?

[Saladin]

(12-25-2011 09:23 PM)alphaspiraton Wrote:  

The next post should come from someone slipping up, which hopefully doesn't happen for another 20 days minimum.

I tried this challenge a few months back. Suddenly by day 14 I was approaching women during the day whom I normally wouldn't approach. It was like this gut feeling developed where I was more inclined to talk to more women and actually try to number close minimum. It took virtually no effort on my part as I did this while just going about my day.

You can read more testimonials on http://www.yourbrainonporn.com. It was mentioned in amother thread but I'll leave it here in case anyone has any doubts about the enormous benefits to not jerking off. And it was mostlu virgins taking the challengr and within ~73 days maximum almost all got laid. Your primal instincts will come out and your motivation will increase 10 fold.

I've gone 10 days before and gave up because I was getting really horny and a bit needy.

I'm at 6 now and will try to go for at least 20 to see if there's any positive changes resulting from this.

[soup]

(01-14-2012 07:42 PM)Docter Wrote:  

have you tried not wanking soup?

Soup doesn't need to not wank.

[_DC_]

(01-14-2012 01:23 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

The motivation for gaming has nothing to do with wanking or not. When i go out to pick up girls, I GO OUT TO PICK UP GIRLS. It doesnt matter if i wanked or not.i'm not going out to have a drink or fun, i go out to find a girl. If i want real fun, i go hang out with my friends, smoke weed and play on the playstation.


I don't feel horny when i talk to a girl. I want to spit game and conquer her. I dont even want to be horny when i talk to a girl, attracted yes, horny NO. Being horny makes you needy.

I don't SSS (shit,shower and shave) for nothing. i have to dress sharp and spend money on transport to and back from the bars and spend money inside the bar. I do this because i want to fuck. It doesn't matter if i wank the same day or one week ago.

Guys here don't seem to understand that and make up excuses for not going out and doing what they should do. Approaching girls and spit game.

Wankers !

Just add "for me" at the end of a lot of these statements and it won't rub anyone the wrong way (ha).

Categorically saying abstaining for masturbation is bullshit is contrary to many posts by forum members who say it helps immensely, myself included ("The motivation for gaming has nothing to do with wanking or not"). I could never take a business-like, no fun, approach to pick up. If I'm not horny, I simply don't care. I'm at the bar to drink and hang out with friends. A lot of people advocate a sexual state and rapid physical escalation. Horniess helps this immensely IMO

You claim its an "excuse" but that's just a negative twist of "motivation". Does being horny give some guys an excuse to even talk to women in the first place? Absolutely.

It's pretty clear to me the niche that non-masturbation helps the most. Those with inner game and confidence, and simply a LACK OF DESIRE to approach. Stating that its exclusively a FEAR to approach (or mostly a fear to approach) is an assumption. A FEAR would require an excuse e.g. rationalizing that you're a pussy because you jerk off too much.

Has anybody been seeing positive results with abstinence? I'm really REALLY trying to stay strong. I'm yet to make it past day 5. I'm positive that its not placebo, by days 3-4 girls look at me constantly, its really an amazing difference. I think there is just so much subconscious information that cannot be faked.

[Saladin]

(01-15-2012 07:07 PM)_DC_ Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 01:23 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

The motivation for gaming has nothing to do with wanking or not. When i go out to pick up girls, I GO OUT TO PICK UP GIRLS. It doesnt matter if i wanked or not.i'm not going out to have a drink or fun, i go out to find a girl. If i want real fun, i go hang out with my friends, smoke weed and play on the playstation.


I don't feel horny when i talk to a girl. I want to spit game and conquer her. I dont even want to be horny when i talk to a girl, attracted yes, horny NO. Being horny makes you needy.

I don't SSS (shit,shower and shave) for nothing. i have to dress sharp and spend money on transport to and back from the bars and spend money inside the bar. I do this because i want to fuck. It doesn't matter if i wank the same day or one week ago.

Guys here don't seem to understand that and make up excuses for not going out and doing what they should do. Approaching girls and spit game.

Wankers !

Just add "for me" at the end of a lot of these statements and it won't rub anyone the wrong way (ha).

Categorically saying abstaining for masturbation is bullshit is contrary to many posts by forum members who say it helps immensely, myself included ("The motivation for gaming has nothing to do with wanking or not"). I could never take a business-like, no fun, approach to pick up. If I'm not horny, I simply don't care. I'm at the bar to drink and hang out with friends. A lot of people advocate a sexual state and rapid physical escalation. Horniess helps this immensely IMO

You claim its an "excuse" but that's just a negative twist of "motivation". Does being horny give some guys an excuse to even talk to women in the first place? Absolutely.

It's pretty clear to me the niche that non-masturbation helps the most. Those with inner game and confidence, and simply a LACK OF DESIRE to approach. Stating that its exclusively a FEAR to approach (or mostly a fear to approach) is an assumption. A FEAR would require an excuse e.g. rationalizing that you're a pussy because you jerk off too much.

Has anybody been seeing positive results with abstinence? I'm really REALLY trying to stay strong. I'm yet to make it past day 5. I'm positive that its not placebo, by days 3-4 girls look at me constantly, its really an amazing difference. I think there is just so much subconscious information that cannot be faked.

Exactly, its the motivation that really helps.

My motivation gets pretty low sometimes, after all I live in Toronto. Girls here don't exactly inspire much motivation.

[Spike]

(01-15-2012 07:07 PM)_DC_ Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 01:23 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

The motivation for gaming has nothing to do with wanking or not. When i go out to pick up girls, I GO OUT TO PICK UP GIRLS. It doesnt matter if i wanked or not.i'm not going out to have a drink or fun, i go out to find a girl. If i want real fun, i go hang out with my friends, smoke weed and play on the playstation.


I don't feel horny when i talk to a girl. I want to spit game and conquer her. I dont even want to be horny when i talk to a girl, attracted yes, horny NO. Being horny makes you needy.

I don't SSS (shit,shower and shave) for nothing. i have to dress sharp and spend money on transport to and back from the bars and spend money inside the bar. I do this because i want to fuck. It doesn't matter if i wank the same day or one week ago.

Guys here don't seem to understand that and make up excuses for not going out and doing what they should do. Approaching girls and spit game.

Wankers !

Just add "for me" at the end of a lot of these statements and it won't rub anyone the wrong way (ha).

Categorically saying abstaining for masturbation is bullshit is contrary to many posts by forum members who say it helps immensely, myself included ("The motivation for gaming has nothing to do with wanking or not"). I could never take a business-like, no fun, approach to pick up. If I'm not horny, I simply don't care. I'm at the bar to drink and hang out with friends. A lot of people advocate a sexual state and rapid physical escalation. Horniess helps this immensely IMO

You claim its an "excuse" but that's just a negative twist of "motivation". Does being horny give some guys an excuse to even talk to women in the first place? Absolutely.

It's pretty clear to me the niche that non-masturbation helps the most. Those with inner game and confidence, and simply a LACK OF DESIRE to approach. Stating that its exclusively a FEAR to approach (or mostly a fear to approach) is an assumption. A FEAR would require an excuse e.g. rationalizing that you're a pussy because you jerk off too much.

Has anybody been seeing positive results with abstinence? I'm really REALLY trying to stay strong. I'm yet to make it past day 5. I'm positive that its not placebo, by days 3-4 girls look at me constantly, its really an amazing difference. I think there is just so much subconscious information that cannot be faked.

Did you just say that girls look at you constantly after 3 or 4 days of not wanking ? An amazing difference ? Did i read that correct ?

What a statement !!

A ridiculous one that is.

[Donald Duck]

Quote:

Did you just say that girls look at you constantly after 3 or 4 days of not wanking ? An amazing difference ? Did i read that correct ?

It's more that you become more aware of these things after not watching porn and masturbating.

[TheMan]

(01-02-2012 04:56 AM)Anon-A-Moose Wrote:  

Not masturbating harmed me, though I am probably a very rare specimen. Ruins my "zero fucks given" vibe if I'm pent-up and need to nut.

Yup.

(01-03-2012 11:44 AM)houston Wrote:  

I went a week without jacking off and lasted a few minutes when I got some ass. That never happens so I don't think I'm going to keep up with the experiment

Truth.

(01-16-2012 11:45 AM)Donald Duck Wrote:  

Quote:

Did you just say that girls look at you constantly after 3 or 4 days of not wanking ? An amazing difference ? Did i read that correct ?

It's more that you become more aware of these things after not watching porn and masturbating.

Ditto.

I know that its pure anecdote, but I experience all three of the above when unnaturally abstaining.
The first two are undesired and the last one one is definitely... educational. Anyway the last is something you can do with experience so why torture yourself just to seem needy and then bust in 2 seconds?

So while I admit that some people in the thread do seem a little overzealous about it. I agree that stopping all together is an... unnecessary drama. I think the message should instead be to do it in moderation.

However, if you think you have a problem (see addiction) with it... then you probably do.

[michelin]

Masturbation is like procrastination: first, you feel in heaven doing it, afterwards you feel liek you have only been fucking yourself.

[alecks]

im on day 12 and i just had the best wet dream of my life.WTF

[soup]

"I'm trying to fall asleep but I can't stop thinking of you. Thought you might like that."

[Sourcecode]

Alot of questions here are about the lack of motivation to game because of laziness or not feeling like going out and the answers seem to be stuff like stop jacking off or something.


Im in a different stance right now.
I pipelined a coupel chicks in the city I am now...now I dont have motivation to meet other chicks cause I have 3 chicks to fuck on a daily basis.

Ive been here for a couple weeks now and one chick cant get enough of me and ask me to spend the night at least twice a week..the other two are fine with me calling once every couple days.

I want more options...but right now I just cant get the motivation to get out when I know I can call one of three girls and get laid with no more than a subway ticket.

I feel like..the girls have figured out my game that i never really take them on dates or ever date ends in sex and then i go invisible for a couple days.
An im afraid eventual when the pussy runs dry Ill be so use to just making a phone call that i wont wanna go out.

Plus..if fuckin cold here in germany...that put even more damper on my will to leave the house..I can barely smile or keep my eyes open with the cold and wind around here

[TheMan]

(01-15-2012 11:27 PM)torontokid Wrote:  

My motivation gets pretty low sometimes, after all I live in Toronto. Girls here don't exactly inspire much motivation.

Haha I feel you brother. I don't think it's as bad as Roosh and G make DC out to be but from what I remember it was damn sure close enough.

There's some saying that goes something along the lines of... Befor you call yourself depressed [unmotivated], just make sure you're not surrounded by assholes [manginas and delusional, entitled princesses].

Suffice it to say I have long since moved from my home town

Caveat: other's experiences may vary

[Saladin]

Haha man, I can't even sarge at my main spot the EAton Centre. Check out the TO thread for more details on that. Basically got banned.

I haven't jacked it in 15 days and I can't even go do day gaem. My balls are killing me. This is torture. I'm gonna hit on every girl on my school even though it'll blow me out and kill my reputation. Fuck it I don't care my balls are gonna explode.

I can't even think properly right. I'm super horny.

This is definately making me more aggressive though. When I'm talking to a chick my eyes are icy as fuck and they can see that. I gotta capitalize on this amazing new ability.

[Nomad77]

I don't think stopping completely is a good thing. I think reducing it significantly might work better. Like no more than once or twice a week. Now, if you are getting regular pussy then that's different. The women like to feel desired but not that you are about to probably rape them.

[Nomad77]

I would say it's a more than subtle and this is a very true and very real problem. The moment you feel you are getting edgy around women you will lose them. So you might as well get some release.

(12-23-2011 03:06 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

To a degree, yes, this is true. But take it from a guy who went nine weeks deep into the "no-fap challenge": you sometimes walk around so hongry and crazed, that it fucks with your game in the other direction. Your killer instinct becomes a deranged killer instinct.

Subtle, but vital distinction.

[Jam Man]

I agree that stopping altogether could harm your game as well as make you blow your load much sooner when you do get laid. I try my hardest not to fap thursday thru saturday. By friday night im pretty horny. By saturday Im extremely motivated

edit: oh look, its wednesday...

[reino341]

The way I understand it is quitting porn is good in any case. Was it 3-6 months that it takes to fix the brain from porn?

[Nomad77]

Depends on the brain but porn definitely desensitizes your mind so it gets harder to get turned on by just average stuff.