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[Basil Ransom]

(12-02-2011 12:06 PM)Caligula Wrote:  

(12-02-2011 11:36 AM)Timoteo Wrote:  

(12-02-2011 12:02 AM)metalhaze Wrote:  

I have a different question, would you LTR a girl you slept with on the first date ?

I'd be more inclined to LTR a girl that slept with me right away, than say a girl that played games and tried to jump me through hoops before she gave it up. A manipulative chick is far worse to me than one that decides right off the bat that SHE doesn't want to wait. Whether or not your personalities are compatible will decide if you're able to stay together anyway - not when you fuck for the first time. But if it's not going to work ultimately, I'd rather get that nut ASAP.

Agreed. That manipulative bullshit of making you wait X dates annoys me. I screen out girls who want to wait for too many dates on OKCupid (hat tip to Gmac). Sure she might have better impulse control, but she's also more likely to be a control-freak pain in the ass.

It's not necessarily a sign of poor character that she wants to have sex quickly. I've been with genuinely good girls who gave it up fast.

Went on a few dates with one of these controlling girls. I got the vibe that she was a habitual pump & dump victim. We kissed on the first date, I pushed for the bang - nothing. Second date was the same. She kept pulling this shit about "you'll have to be really nice to me and I'll reward you " via text message. I don't know if she had read The Rules or was trying to run some other kind of 'girl game' on me but it was a turn-off.

She'd have to be exceptionally hot to get a pass for that kind of behaviour.

NEXT!

+1 to both. It's hilarious how some guys can't get over this basic distinction. If she's a slut, she's a slut regardless of how many dates she waits. They *want* a girl to hold out on them, so that he can like her. If she lets him bang too soon, he won't like her. It's self-hatred, really. If a girl's cute, I give her credit for banging me quickly. And the only exclusive relationship I ever had, a while back, was with a girl I banged on the first date.

The vast majority of girls who make you wait have at some point have had some sort of slutty past. They got burned, like Caligula mentioned. I think I've run into a lot of these - I have a great date with a chick, go pretty far but no bang, and then I never hear back from her, because she's pegged me as a player and resents me as such, because she was "tricked" into getting fingered streetside.

You get into this 'unhappy valley...' If you had banged, she'd say to herself, "oh, I might as well keep seeing him." If you had been less aggressive, she'd say, "oh, he's a nice guy." But because you landed somewhere in between, you went far enough with an "ex-slut" to reveal her slutty side, she hates you for it, and you don't have the bang as leverage to make her come back. My biggest mistake with them was probably not getting ourselves drunk enough. Looking back, I think some of those dates would've definitely benefitted from getting hammered together.

That said, OKCupid girls lie. I banged a girl on the first date that said 6 or more was required, and others who said 3 to 5.

[Tuthmosis]

(12-02-2011 01:19 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

That said, OKCupid girls lie. I banged a girl on the first date that said 6 or more was required, and others who said 3 to 5.

OKCupid girls do lie. I went out with a "6-dater" who I banged within 45 minutes--no exaggeration--of meeting her for the first date. Another one claimed she didn't kiss on the first date. She was giving me a BJ and swallowing within an hour-and-a-half.

This may not be representative (there are definitely lots of prudes on there), but I wouldn't put to much stake on the answer to those questions. Look for other subtle cues to tip you off to what she really does--either way.

[Caligula]

(12-02-2011 01:19 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

That said, OKCupid girls lie. I banged a girl on the first date that said 6 or more was required, and others who said 3 to 5.

I figured there must be some of this going on, but never wanted to risk wasting time on dead-end dates.

On OKC do you pay any attention to how many dates they say it usually takes? Do you see any correlation between their response to that question and what actually happens?

I may have given it too much significance.

[el mechanico]

Do you guys actually talk this stuff out? Or have prebang conversation about any kind of sex or relationship pasts?

As far as history goes...think about what you have to think about when you get my age...Hmmmm...That chick just snorted a line in the bathroom? Possible she was on a coke/cock binge for an entire decade? Wonder how many times this girl got a train ran on her..
Coke binge from 1990 to 2001 at 6 cocks a week(easy) would put her at 3400 dicks...Did I read in this post that twenty was a high number?

Please don't think this is far fetched, It's not

[Basil Ransom]

(12-02-2011 01:31 PM)Caligula Wrote:  

(12-02-2011 01:19 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

That said, OKCupid girls lie. I banged a girl on the first date that said 6 or more was required, and others who said 3 to 5.

I figured there must be some of this going on, but never wanted to risk wasting time on dead-end dates.

On OKC do you pay any attention to how many dates they say it usually takes? Do you see any correlation between their response to that question and what actually happens?

I may have given it too much significance.

As long as she's not the waiting for marriage type, she's worth a shot. I mean, unless you have so many dates that you don't know what to do with, I'd still go out with the 6-daters.

Another possible screening tactic is using sexual innuendo over chat/phone. If she's comfortable laughing at it, she's much more likely to be DTF. When you do the innuendo though, you can't imply it's something you'd do to her, because that comes off as creepy. You have to reverse it, and pretend you're normal and misinterpret things she says as double entendres and 'call her out' on them, imply she's perverted, etc. Basic game tactic of framing her as the sexual aggressor, and you as an innocent bystander. This way, you're talking about sex without setting off her creepy thirsty dude alert.

Also you can check the other questions, for just general kinkiness/promiscuity.

I searched my 'enemies' on OKC the other day. I found this girl day who answered all the sex questions with comments like "NO SEX UNTIL MARRIAGE." Fair enough. And then I see stuff like, "I LOOOOOVE bondage." What the hell?! What a freak....

The thing with OKC chicks, besides the attention whoring and whack standards, is that all these hipster chicks build these elaborate profiles. I admit, they can seem pretty creative. But once you start talking to them, you realize they're just as boring as all the other girls, but because they dye their hair blue, work at a vegan pastry shop or whatever, they think they're scintillating. Sometimes you'll run into the princesses, where you there's no way to win - if you compliment her you're beta, and if you neg her she gets pissed.

[Samseau]

(12-02-2011 01:31 PM)Caligula Wrote:  

(12-02-2011 01:19 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

That said, OKCupid girls lie. I banged a girl on the first date that said 6 or more was required, and others who said 3 to 5.

I figured there must be some of this going on, but never wanted to risk wasting time on dead-end dates.

On OKC do you pay any attention to how many dates they say it usually takes? Do you see any correlation between their response to that question and what actually happens?

I may have given it too much significance.

Do the experiements and find out!

Date 5-10 types of women who claim they wait and see if they actually wait or not.


Tuth:

Hahaha

Quote:

OKCupid girls do lie. I went out with a "6-dater" who I banged within 45 minutes--no exaggeration--of meeting her for the first date.

ROFL, that's easier than most night game notches!!

[birth]

Update:

After great sex today I playfully hinted at her number. She said 9 and added that she doesn't do afterparties or hook up with strangers. Which wouldn't be bad at all in 4 years of being single but... funny enough, that's how we hooked up in the first place. So yeah, probably lying about it or "doesn't count"ing some.

I acted like I didn't care obviously. Enlightment came in that they're all whores, no matter what age after all.

[endobendo]

(12-03-2011 03:51 PM)birth Wrote:  

Update:

After great sex today I playfully hinted at her number. She said 9 and added that she doesn't do afterparties or hook up with strangers. Which wouldn't be bad at all in 4 years of being single but... funny enough, that's how we hooked up in the first place. So yeah, probably lying about it or "doesn't count"ing some.

I acted like I didn't care obviously. Enlightment came in that they're all whores, no matter what age after all.

9 my ass

[Tuthmosis]

(12-03-2011 12:29 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Tuth:

Hahaha

Quote:

OKCupid girls do lie. I went out with a "6-dater" who I banged within 45 minutes--no exaggeration--of meeting her for the first date.

ROFL, that's easier than most night game notches!!

I know. I was a little surprised myself. All it cost me was a $5 beer and like a half-a-block of walking too. We had first round at a place right near my place and bounced to my pad for "round two" which, of course, became banging. For a night, I felt like I had executed a near-perfect game session.

Little did I know that I would be paying the price later when this tramp starting quite literally stalking me, showing up at my house in the middle of the night and texting me non-stop. I think I got over 70 texts from her in one day (she would write these super long messages that would break up into 7+ texts of 160 characters). One time, she totally interrupted a date with another (better) prospect and ruined that shit permanently (I only got to bang that girl once even though I was interested in at least a few more times).

I came close to calling the police. I shit you not. This shit only got resolved like three days ago, when I finally got through to her that I wasn't interested! But I'm not convinced that I've seen the last of that bitch, though. These are the highs/lows of OKC, my man.

The full version of that story, though, is for another time/venue.