[Breeze]

Fellas I need advice here. My ONS game is as bad as it gets. I have been with way more women than the avg guy but 98.9% of my lays have come from knowing the girls or after a few dates. I have only had two so far this year. This needs to change. I have absolutely no approach anxiety and get the convo going but it dies fast. There are too many women here in NYC to not be laying pipe on the reg. Advice or suggestions welcome.
Breeze

[germanico]

Clean yourself up, wear your best clothes. Go out, preferably on your own. Approach women. If after 15 minutes of talking to her you do not know where the interaction is going, excuse yourself and approach a different woman immediately. (Note I said "not know where is it going", not "know with 100% certainty that you are going to pork her", there is a difference) Dont spend more than 15 minutes on your own, parked with your friends/wingmen, or otherwise not talking to a woman or group that includes a woman. If at any point during the conversation she asks about your logistics, (where do you live, how did you got here, who are you with, who are you going with, etc) then calmly and discreetly suggest you two get to your place.

And get your logistics straight beforehand, tidy your place, gas in your tank, cash in your wallet, condoms with you and at your place, etcetera. No logistics = no lay.

[Breeze]

Solid advice. I do approaches but I am starting to think that I dont do enough. Dude, I havent even been getting to 15 mins of convo, more like 5. Might need to crawl before I walk...

[germanico]

Then challenge yourself. Its not about how many approaches you do, its about what you get out of them. Nobody will give you a trophy for approaching and nobody is keeping your score, so do as many as you want or need in order to get what you look for.

But you have to be aware of what you are looking for. What do you want to get out of pick up? What need are you trying to satisfy? You want women? What for?

If you dont know what you want, then you cant choose an effective strategy for it. Even two guys can have the same goals for different reasons. Perhaps you want to have sex with a lot of women because you dont want to commit to a serious relationship, while another guy wants to have sex with different women because he wants to get married and is looking for The One.

As for conversations, develop your conversational skills and challenge yourself to have longer interactions (even one that extend over the course of days or weeks) instead of just approaching girl after girl.

[Breeze]

That's just it, I know what I want. I always end up with girls trying to rope me into serious relationships which I don't want. I don't want that. I am very upfront about this as well but they don't hear it. To combat this, I need to step up my ONS game so I can fulfill my desires but not have to deal with any nonsense. As far as my conversational skills are concerned, I def don't lack in this department (so I've been told). Maybe I'm too upfront about it way too early in the convo? Or the escalation/isolation may be at the wrong points. I'm going to be working on this vigorously. I like the pointers though my friend. I'll keep you posted.
Breeze