[genjuro]

I am at mid 30s but look late 20s, Asian, from Canada, not rich but financially secure. So so at game, not at advanced level. Speak some Spanish but no Russian. About to pull the trigger for a break of a few months to a year, move to another country, ideally find a relationship.

Been to Colombia before and got my Colombia flag there, but never been to Ukraine, only got interested lately because of the Ukraine threads here. Thanks for the awesome threads guys, very helpful.

Good things about Colombia is that I have been there and I know I can pull girls there, higher quality than in Canada even with my broken Spanish. And I speak at least some Spanish, better than zero Russian.

I like slim girls with fair skin and dark hair. Ukrainian girls probably fit my type better. I am willing to learn Russian. Eastern eupean girls from my experience in general are better educated than Latinas, which is a plus for me.

Any suggestion will be appreciated. Cheers!

[MiXX]

I have also been to Colombia Genjuro, and I am seriously thinking about travelling to Poland (Wroclaw) in January instead of Colombia (again). As someone who loves Colombia more than you do, I'd say go to Ukraine and try something different. Colombia will always be there...and the women will too.

BTW, Ukrainians do not speak Russian, if they do, they deny it...it's a pride thing. So forget about opening girls in Russian when you are in Ukraine.

The pros about Poland is you do not need to focus on learning Russian as Polish/Ukraine people do not care. Second, speaking Spanish is BETTER in Poland I think for getting laid.

There is a latin scene in Poland I want to exploit. Hell, you should be my wing in Wroclaw....

Mixx

[Spartan]

(11-13-2011 12:41 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

I have also been to Colombia Genjuro, and I am seriously thinking about travelling to Poland (Wroclaw) in January instead of Colombia (again). As someone who loves Colombia more than you do, I'd say go to Ukraine and try something different. Colombia will always be there...and the women will too.

BTW, Ukrainians do not speak Russian, if they do, they deny it...it's a pride thing. So forget about opening girls in Russian when you are in Ukraine.

The pros about Poland is you do not need to focus on learning Russian as Polish/Ukraine people do not care. Second, speaking Spanish is BETTER in Poland I think for getting laid.

There is a latin scene in Poland I want to exploit. Hell, you should be my wing in Wroclaw....

Mixx

Just be warned, they don't like non whites there. Its not as bad as I hear it is in Russia, but my Ukrainian girlfriend would always talk about how she doesn't like asians and blacks. She disapproved of me having a chinese friend. You should be safe, just be prepared for some bad reactions and people staring at you.

I have a black friend here in Poland who is constantly saying Hello to everyone on the street. She says it helps break the discomfort she feels when everyone stares at her. Its her way of coping.

[MiXX]

(11-13-2011 12:49 PM)Spartan Wrote:  

Just be warned, they don't like non whites there.

Spartan, please stop fear-mongering. Unless you have specific proof of this, stop spreading it around. I have a Colombian friend living in Ukraine who is killing it down there as a latin man with ZERO local language skills.


Mixx

[genjuro]

@Mixx aka the master, would love to learn from you!

Isn't January a bit cold in Europe?

Which estrato girls are the best bet for my background? The girls I met before all mostly 4 and one of them is 3. They were so hospitable that I was a bit surprised.

[MiXX]

(11-13-2011 12:53 PM)genjuro Wrote:  

@Mixx aka the master, would love to learn from you!

Isn't January a bit cold in Europe?

Perfect time to bust out a cool flight jacket from this store.

http://www.cockpitusa.com/store/Outerwea...irection=1

I Never get to wear my cool bomber flight jacket!! So, I am looking forward to it! Alos, I'm thinking that when it's 20 below zero outside, inside a warm, tight vagina is the place to be.

(11-13-2011 12:53 PM)genjuro Wrote:  

Which estrato girls are the best bet for my background? The girls I met before all mostly 4 and one of them is 3. They were so hospitable that I was a bit surprised.

Any girl is up for grabs in Colombia, especially when you get out of Medellin into the 3rd tier cities of the state of Caldas and Risaralda: Armenia, Pereira, Cucuta, Bucaramanga, Neiva, etc...

Mixx

[genjuro]

@Spartan , thanks for the info. I guess that I will have to book a flight to there and experience it myself.

Cheers!

[Spartan]

(11-13-2011 12:53 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(11-13-2011 12:49 PM)Spartan Wrote:  

Just be warned, they don't like non whites there.

Spartan, please stop fear-mongering. Unless you have specific proof of this, stop spreading it around. I have a Colombian friend living in Ukraine who is killing it down there as a latin man with ZERO local language skills.


Mixx

Hey, I'm not saying you can't be successful if you're non-white, but its harder.
I lived in Ukraine for 4 months with a local family.

Just be prepared for some negative reactions from *some*, not all people. Thats all

Probably the girls that speak English are more open minded about the topic. Big cities are better too.
Also, Ukrainian speaking regions might be safer, not sure about that...just *seems* like the Russian culture is more xenophobic.

[Marco]

Funny but in Ukraine I saw many local people with Asian look , not like 100% Chinese or Thai look, but people which have an Asian roots, the explanation is 1st the Mongolian which conquered the place 800 years ago and rape the women (common behavior at that time for a winning army) and 2nd, the Communists used to move people from all our former USSR to other parts of the empire and in the east part of Russia and countries like Kazakhstan there are many people with Asian look which apparently moved over.

Don't be afraid, should be quite safe.

[timmy21]

What are you talking about? believe me, speak Russian when in Ukraine, this statement is totally wrong, unless you're in the far west, then you can still communicate in Russian; but they perfer to speak Ukrainian.

BTW, Ukrainians do not speak Russian, if they do, they deny it...it's a pride thing. So forget about opening girls in Russian when you are in Ukraine.

Mixx
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[Hooligan Harry]

(11-13-2011 12:41 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

I have also been to Colombia Genjuro, and I am seriously thinking about travelling to Poland (Wroclaw) in January instead of Colombia (again). As someone who loves Colombia more than you do, I'd say go to Ukraine and try something different. Colombia will always be there...and the women will too.

BTW, Ukrainians do not speak Russian, if they do, they deny it...it's a pride thing. So forget about opening girls in Russian when you are in Ukraine.

The pros about Poland is you do not need to focus on learning Russian as Polish/Ukraine people do not care. Second, speaking Spanish is BETTER in Poland I think for getting laid.

There is a latin scene in Poland I want to exploit. Hell, you should be my wing in Wroclaw....

Mixx

Dude of course they speak Russian. There are certain parts of the country that are going through "Ukrainisation" and the people are getting more patriotic, but for the most part Russian is a still a first language in many parts, still taught as the primary second language at school throughout, used in business and universities.

Also, sorry to burst your bubble. Being a latino in eastern europe is no advantage, its just no disadvantage. The Italians, Turks, Greeks, Spaniards, Portuguese, etc are right on their doorstep and they are all up there macking the major cities in the summer months. The women wont be able to tell the difference.

[MiXX]

(11-13-2011 09:43 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

Dude of course they speak Russian.

re-phrasing.

Ukrainians DO NOT WANT to speak Russian, they are proud of this and make it abundantly clear. Regardless, the thread is about Colombia or Ukraine, and as I mentioned to the OP; he is comparing apples and oranges.

Mixx

[Deluge]

(11-13-2011 10:35 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(11-13-2011 09:43 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

Dude of course they speak Russian.

re-phrasing.

Ukrainians DO NOT WANT to speak Russian, they are proud of this and make it abundantly clear. Regardless, the thread is about Colombia or Ukraine, and as I mentioned to the OP; he is comparing apples and oranges.

Mixx

Eastern Ukrainians seem to be more willing according to posts on the forum.

[Ami5]

(11-13-2011 10:35 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(11-13-2011 09:43 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

Dude of course they speak Russian.

re-phrasing.

Ukrainians DO NOT WANT to speak Russian, they are proud of this and make it abundantly clear. Regardless, the thread is about Colombia or Ukraine, and as I mentioned to the OP; he is comparing apples and oranges.

Mixx

Ukraine is quite broad to generalize in this manner. I have been dealing with some Ukrainian friends and clients since past 5 years, and here is the thing I got to absorb -
"Language or race, doesn't really matters if you have the 'guts'." Simple!

That means, rather than worrying about Asian/Latin guys killing it in Ukraine versus getting killed , I think its all a matter of how you deal with guys over there.

Having said that -
Eastern Ukraine - (Kharkiv primarily) - is a region which is completely 'Russian' as such. I have not met a single Ukrainian girl in Kharkiv who said they preferred to speak Ukrainian over Russian. In fact, many of them don't even speak Ukrainian perfectly!
Two of my girls over there, both complain whenever something is presented in Ukrainian - like some technical paper and so on.

Western Ukraine - Lviv - is just the other side of the coin. They speak Russian, but they prefer not. Although, you as a foreigner, would certainly not be neglected there.

Other cities, Kiev, Dnipro, Donetsk, Odessa, Kherson... if you speak Russian, you are good to go. No problem. No bias.

Secondly, I am a brownie, myself. For most of my stay, there were innumerably instances when I went out in midnight, dark streets, alone... and nothing happened.

Although, everyone gets different experiences!

[MiXX]

(11-14-2011 05:48 AM)Ami5 Wrote:  

Secondly, I am a brownie, myself. For most of my stay, there were innumerably instances when I went out in midnight, dark streets, alone... and nothing happened.

Although, everyone gets different experiences!

What exact type of brownie are you, Hispanic? Indian/Pakistani? other? And, howe well were you received by women in Lviv? Kiev? in General?

Mixx

[Ami5]

Indian with slightly above average looks.

Definitely not the Brownie guys post up here for the troll pic!

Was received very well. I was not mistaken for Turk, not even misunderstood as Black or white...so some exotic factor maybe, as Indians are not too common there.

[genjuro]

I've never been to Ukraine , the closest was romania , close to the border of Ukraine. I'd say that the exotic factor worked for me. I've got university students asked me to join them drinking at 8am in the morning lol, and the hotel receptionist a cute 18 year old blonde girl invited me to stay at her apartment.

[MiXX]

(11-14-2011 10:10 AM)genjuro Wrote:  

I've never been to Ukraine , the closest was romania , close to the border of Ukraine. I'd say that the exotic factor worked for me. I've got university students asked me to join them drinking at 8am in the morning lol, and the hotel receptionist a cute 18 year old blonde girl invited me to stay at her apartment.

And you are Indian?

Mixx

[genjuro]

@Mixx , I am east Asian, but look a bit mixed. Was mistaken as peruvian a few times when I was in Peru, and mistaken as central Asian before too. It also worke for me when I was in China.

[Ami5]

(11-14-2011 10:50 AM)genjuro Wrote:  

@Mixx , I am east Asian, but look a bit mixed. Was mistaken as peruvian a few times when I was in Peru, and mistaken as central Asian before too. It also worke for me when I was in China.

(11-14-2011 09:45 AM)Ami5 Wrote:  

Indian with slightly above average looks.

Definitely not the Brownie guys post up here for the troll pic!

Was received very well. I was not mistaken for Turk, not even misunderstood as Black or white...so some exotic factor maybe, as Indians are not too common there.

... Indicating you get even bigger shot for same amount of game, if you are neither exactly white nor black

[Deb Auchery]

You wouldn't have too many problems being Indian looking in Ukraine, better than if you are black. I was recently in a restaurant and there was a bunch of Polish skinheads, a black guy walked in, and one started shout "Ni**er!". Must have been terrible for the guy.

Ukrainians are very passive in general though, very different from some Polish men. You can even ogle a Ukrainian guy's girlfriend and he won't do anything. The worst thing that might happen is if you are crossing the street, they will speed up and try and scare you. But they do that to everybody.

I have seen very few Indian looking dudes in Lviv, so you might have a novelty value.

[brosenthal91]

Back to the original question....

Personally, as a fan of slavic women, language, and culture, I would opt for Ukraine. You said you have already been to Colombia so I would probably opt out of going there and try something new. Could the race and language barrier be a road block to success in Ukraine? It could be but you won't know if you don't tried.

[chopperfire]

Firstly, if you belive in the Game and PUA thing you won't succeed. It doesn't work there. It is about how you act and your financialy stability.
Secondly, I don't know what Asian you are. But if you are a cetain type of Indian or Middle Eastern, as in not too dark, but enough with a skin that look different, Ukraine and Eastern Europe can be a great place girl wise. I seen it. Most White American men act gay with the PUA/Game and other techniques, so don't bother doing all that garbage..

[Deb Auchery]

As long as you don't look Ukrainian you will be ok, Ukrainian men are the worst looking creatures I have ever seen. They got the rough end of the genetic stick

[MiXX]

(11-17-2011 09:36 AM)chopperfire Wrote:  

Firstly, if you belive in the Game and PUA thing you won't succeed. It doesn't work there. It is about how you act and your financialy stability.
Secondly, I don't know what Asian you are. But if you are a cetain type of Indian or Middle Eastern, as in not too dark, but enough with a skin that look different, Ukraine and Eastern Europe can be a great place girl wise. I seen it. Most White American men act gay with the PUA/Game and other techniques, so don't bother doing all that garbage..

Even though you sound like a troll, this is a good point actually. I don't see SashaPUA doing well in places like Ukraine and Colombia - which have similar cultures.

Mixx