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Divorce Leads Rich Dude To Murk His Family
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Divorce Leads Rich Dude To Murk His Family

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HAWTHORNE, New York (Reuters) - A lawyer facing a divorce hearing this week bludgeoned his wife to death with a furniture leg and shot his two children in their bed before killing himself at their home in an upscale New York City suburb, police said on Wednesday.

State Police Major Michael Kopy said it appeared Samuel Friedlander, 50, had argued with his wife Amy, 46, before beating her to death in their home in Lewisboro.

Toting a shotgun, he then entered a bedroom and shot his two children Molly, 10, and Gregory, 8, killing them as they lay together in bed. Friedlander next headed down to the basement and shot himself in the head, police said.

http://news.yahoo.com/york-lawyer-bludge...52841.html
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Divorce Leads Rich Dude To Murk His Family

RIP to the kids, that just ain't right.

That being said, the fact that the looming specter of divorce can push a seemingly normal human(upper middle class, successful, married father) off a psychopathic edge should tell you all you need to know about the wisdom of tying the knot as a modern American male(especially in a state like NY).

Why sign up for this as a guy? Marriage 2.0 is anti-male. There's just no incentive to bother with it here anymore. Either jump ship and sign up for Marriage 1.0 somewhere else or stay unmarried. It is better that way-at least you'll keep your sanity.

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Divorce Leads Rich Dude To Murk His Family

RIP to the kids, but....

I'll say it again. If you are going to marry, MAKE SURE the woman has as much (near as much) money/income/net-worth as yourself. Therefore, you are not worried about her taking "your half". Far too many men "marry down" as far as income goes. Yeah, yeah, I know the "alpha" thing is to be all in control with some submissive wife but the courts and laws are not built for that.
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Quote: (10-20-2011 12:21 AM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

RIP to the kids, but....

I'll say it again. If you are going to marry, MAKE SURE the woman has as much (near as much) money/income/net-worth as yourself. Therefore, you are not worried about her taking "your half". Far too many men "marry down" as far as income goes.

This had nothing to do with marrying down...

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Married in 2000, Friedlander was an attorney in the nearby tony town of Bedford Hills and his wife was a former vice president at Chase Manhattan Bank. The couple was going through a divorce and had been due in court on Thursday.
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Divorce Leads Rich Dude To Murk His Family

Well this must be a purely emotional thing for him. If he wasn't losing his fortune (we don't know the custody situation) then why would he be so depressed to the point of killing himself?
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Divorce Leads Rich Dude To Murk His Family

I'm wary of reading too much into this. These things happen and have been happening for a long time. Not enough information to go on to understand what caused this.

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Divorce Leads Rich Dude To Murk His Family

Quote: (10-20-2011 12:21 AM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

RIP to the kids, but....

I'll say it again. If you are going to marry, MAKE SURE the woman has as much (near as much) money/income/net-worth as yourself. Therefore, you are not worried about her taking "your half". Far too many men "marry down" as far as income goes. Yeah, yeah, I know the "alpha" thing is to be all in control with some submissive wife but the courts and laws are not built for that.

Why, so the woman can go bat-shit crazy and cut off your penis before the divorce? NO THANKS!

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Divorce Leads Rich Dude To Murk His Family

Quote: (10-20-2011 12:21 AM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

RIP to the kids, but....

I'll say it again. If you are going to marry, MAKE SURE the woman has as much (near as much) money/income/net-worth as yourself. Therefore, you are not worried about her taking "your half". Far too many men "marry down" as far as income goes. Yeah, yeah, I know the "alpha" thing is to be all in control with some submissive wife but the courts and laws are not built for that.

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Divorce Leads Rich Dude To Murk His Family

Thank God we have 2nd amendment! What would we do without such "well-regulated militia"?

But, to his credit, at least he didn't also shot a bunch of his coworkers/neighbors as some others did.
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Divorce Leads Rich Dude To Murk His Family

Quote: (10-20-2011 12:56 AM)jariel Wrote:  

This had nothing to do with marrying down...

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Married in 2000, Friedlander was an attorney in the nearby tony town of Bedford Hills and his wife was a former vice president at Chase Manhattan Bank. The couple was going through a divorce and had been due in court on Thursday.

Don't read too much into her being a "vice president". Banks give that title away like candy (instead of actual raises). It doesn't mean shit.

I used to work as a database guy for a large multi-national bank. I was the only technical person on a team of 8 (counting me). We had 3 vice presidents on our team. NONE had their own office, and one had a cubicle was only a little bigger than mine. Back then (8-10 years ago), I would be absolutely shocked if he was making $100K per year. My bet is that it was more like $70-$75K.

Also notice how the article says she was a "former" VP. My bet is that she quit her job and jumped on the gravy train of being a desperate housewife as soon as that ring was on her finger.

Other reports say that the husband suspected the wife of turning the kids against him. I am not saying that is what happened (the fact that he gunned down his own children shows he wasn't stable), but that is one of those things that can make an already volatile guy snap.

Either way, the kids definitely didn't deserve what happened to them, and she probably didn't either.
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And did the husband deserve to be divorced? He was facing losing all of his life's work being thrown away. He was facing the shame and humilation (a powerful thing in rich communities) from losing his family.

I'm suprised MORE men don't snap like this. Divorce is so one-sided it's laughable.

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Quote: (10-21-2011 11:18 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

And did the husband deserve to be divorced? He was facing losing all of his life's work being thrown away. He was facing the shame and humilation (a powerful thing in rich communities) from losing his family.

I'm suprised MORE men don't snap like this. Divorce is so one-sided it's laughable.

The alimony and child support laws in NY are ridiculous too. A friend of mine who's in his 50s has been paying both for over 12 years, the kids are 19, and 21 respectively, but as long as they stay in college he has to pay. Their mom pushed them both to go for a masters.

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Going through this myself; at least we didn't have kids. Wife gets half plus a fair amount of "maintenance" to "get on her feet"--a fucking joke as I paid for four (!) advanced degrees including a PhD and two masters' degrees in business. Hell, she has more degrees than I do. Doesn't matter.

I used to be the biggest proponent of marriage when it was working. Fuck that--DO NOT MARRY. Or if you do, get an iron-clad prenup.

As far as I'm concerned, the legal institution of marriage has become simply a way for those not willing to work to prey on those who are.
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Divorce Leads Rich Dude To Murk His Family

Quote: (10-20-2011 12:56 AM)jariel Wrote:  

This had nothing to do with marrying down...

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Married in 2000, Friedlander was an attorney in the nearby tony town of Bedford Hills and his wife was a former vice president at Chase Manhattan Bank. The couple was going through a divorce and had been due in court on Thursday.

This means nothing. The dude who did my loan at BofA was a vice president as well. One of ten thousand of their vice presidents, I believe.
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