[Amour Fou]

This thread will probably read as something in between the Game forum and the Travel forum, so I'm not sure where to place it.

First, the setting:

Weekday parties for exchange students such as myself here in Honolulu are hot and cheap... meaning if you know the right places to go (Tuesday- Moose's Pub, Wednesday- Señor Frog, Thursday-Varsity; Friday to Sunday the options multiply) you are guaranteed to have a good crowd till late hours (the problem is getting up for class on the following day...)

It is being quite an experience for me, used to the alternative night scene in my native Rio de Janeiro, to hit this exceedingly multi-cultural/international setting that is Honolulu.

I've been learning a lot about myself and game. Some of the things that I've been considering are the practical aspects of "textbook game", that can loosely be defined (correct me if you may) in such simple steps as:

-Inner game
-Approach
-Conversation, where you introduce threads and routines that make the girl qualify herslef to you while you "demonstrate value"
-Escalate
-Isolate
-Close

I was used to some variation or other of the former as an up and coming player back home. I was working with a more "standard" crowd of Brazilian girls. Here where I am at now, the crowd is so varied and randomized that I feel that my own standard game cracks... just so you guys get a feeling of the diversity, tonight I approached and engaged in conversation ("ran game") on girls from the following backgrounds:

-Norwegian
-German
-Japanese
-Southeast asian-american (from DC!)
-Argentinian
-Uruguayan (she opened me, as I had some "t-shirt" game: my shirt had BUENOS FUCKING AIRES written on it, and she happen to have lived in BUENOS FUCKING AIRES)
-Australian
-Colombian
-American (from Reno, Nevada, and some others from elsewhere)

I might have forgotten some...

You can tell that I was doing some reasonable number of approaches, and got the German and Norwegian particularly engaged, haven't being able to re-open them later as I would usually do, as they had simply left.

I have this gauge of how I am doing, may it be good or not, where usually later on during the night I look around and ask myself "are people hooking up?", "how are girls responding to other guys?", "if there are any other guys doing better than me, what are they doing differently?"

Most of the time on these places I've been out to, the other guys aren't doing better than me, except for a few one or two, who ironically (not advocating anything here, please!) are insanely drunk Brazilian guys running grinding caveman game who just push it for the kiss like there is no tomorrow with almost nothing being said.

Even though I am Brazilian, caveman game has never been my forte. I am a confident conversationalist who likes to tease, lure and push-pull. While playing by the book things tend to go well, the only few guys here which I see getting some sort of consistent success are those running drunk grinding caveman game to its fullest. The best one I"ve seen at this (he is a good looking 8.5 Brazilian guy) even admitted to me that he is starting to get ill from all the drinking, but he still parties hardcore 4-5 times a week. More smooth conversationalist types like me, although getting some attention and... numbers... don't get the same results as a guy like that (even though I am by no means "bad looking").

Granted, most of the venues I've been here (like anywhere else I've been to, may I add!) there are more guys than girls. Guys who pedestalise women and stand for the white knighting crap that make girls's egos' go to skyrocketing heights, disturbing all the possible balance in the force, the "healthy" balance between girl-guy interaction.

Point being: textbook game, as described above, seems to be crumbling down and means nothing in some contexts. Threads? Converstation? Push-pull? Connection? Tease? No use.

What do you guys feel about this? I am sure that there are many venues that such classical game works but, honestly, they are starting to seem a minority for me.

Thoughts?

[Samseau]

You need to be more agressive. Push for that one night stand. Read bang.

[Amour Fou]

(10-19-2011 11:20 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

You need to be more agressive. Push for that one night stand. Read bang.

I am currently re-reading Bang.

[Kona]

(10-19-2011 09:50 AM)Amour Fou Wrote:  

Tuesday- Moose's Pub

HA! I was in there Tuesday night. That place has been a tourist trap for 20 years, but it turned around all of a sudden. I think I can help you out a little.

You noticed all the Norwegians in there. I got clued into that scene in early August. I've swooped 3 of them. 2 I had to work on, 1 was a fluke.

The 1st one I'm happy to call a regular. Here she is:
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The second one has big titties and I fucked her maybe three times on our little date night, then I went to her apartment the second time we got together where I fucked her again. I ignored a call from her last night. Here she is:
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Those are big titties:
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The third I saw at the beach a few days after meeting her at Moose's, bounced her to another beach, then fucked her in the truck before I took her home, and we didn't exchange numbers. I'm not sure of her name so I have no photos. But the same idea.

I've been to Norway, but only a little. I met a girl in another country, and went there to see her, so I've never really fired at too many Norwegians.

I had some Norwegian guys on my boat one day and they were bitching about how they'd moved all the way to Hawaii, and all they were surrounded with were the girls from their hometowns. When the said all the Norwegians get together at Mosses on Tuesdays I didn't believe it, because of the history of that bar. Kelly Oneil's is my spot, so a buddy and I walked across the street to check it out.

The guy from my boat wound up being there, and gave me some tips about the girls.

As you probably noticed, they are all in excellent shape and spend a lot of time at the beach. They all participate in a sport, or just work out a lot. You can see the jogging bra tan lines on the girl in the first picture. Funny though, the girls all smoke, even if they don't full-time, they will if they have a few drinks. The ones I've been with can't handle much liquor.

They also all have blond hair, but on some of them it seems to get a little bushy or matted maybe. They could easily get some dreads going. What you don't know till you get their clothes off is that none of them shave their bushes. The one in the picture does now after she's been with me. You can tell at the bar most of them have semi hairy bodies, but it's finer blond hairs. I guess they're different about that stuff.

The Norwegian guy told me that all the folks from Norway that came to Hawaii for college have money. These are all millionaire's kids. Him and his Norway buddies were doing a $1800 fishing charter on a Tuesday just for fun, and all three girls I've banged live in Waikiki apartments that are at least $1500 a month. They also have all kinds of jewlery and iPhones and macbook pro's and closets full of shoes and shit.

Another really interesting thing he told me is that the Norwegian girls and guys are absolutely looking to swoop outside of Norway. The guy I knew was going after low-quality Asian's, and the girls were all over everybody but the Norwegian guys.

The guy told me that the rich girls in Norway are SLUTS and you gotta treat them that way. I opposed him on this. I asked him how to say "My name is Kona, How are you?" in Norwegian. He told me that was no good and I needed to talk dirty to them right off the bat, but be funny about it. This guy's cool, so finally he tells me that I want to say "Mitt naven er Kona, Du arre em horre" so I did.

What I didn't know was that this guy just told me to say "My name is Kona, YOU ARE A WHORE" but it worked. The girl in the first picture just started laughing and I didn't get it. She answered back "Is that really how I look" and it was confusing at first but I played through it. Eventually she told me what I said, and the conversation was all sexual from then on.

A good move at Mooses is instead of just standing on the street for a cigarette, walk across to Kelly's where you can smoke inside. Get a drink there. It's sort of an under the table way to get them away from their friends. This is what I was trying with my Norwegian, but her friends started calling/texting like crazy and she wanted to go back. started with the kissing and touching in Kelly's though. After the calls I spent maybe 20 more minutes in Moose's, took her number and left.

I called her the next day. She came to my house for a basic beach date. Then to a restaurant and it was downhill from there.

Basically, things when the same way with the second girl. I didn't walk up and call her a whore, but I used something a little toned down. Within the first 5 minutes I got some "you look like a slut" type comment out, and it hooked. Her I kept in Kelly's for quite a while longer, but same thing, her people started calling. I bailed right there. Called her the next day, got laid a few days later.

The sex with the first girl is fantastic. She took some coaching at first, but I got her sucking my dick the way I like. She really takes care of me. She's athletic enough to handle a pounding. I'm really happy.

The big titty second one was freaking awful. I felt like I was 17. She was just too cumbersome. I don't know if that's just her, but I have a theory about sex with girls with tits that big. It's due to their nipples being less sensitive.

The third one was nothing special either, but that was real quick.

Amour Fou, I think you'll kill it with these Norwegians. A toned down caveman Brasil dude style might be perfect.

Aloha!

[Amour Fou]

(10-21-2011 09:54 AM)Kona Wrote:  

(10-19-2011 09:50 AM)Amour Fou Wrote:  

Tuesday- Moose's Pub

HA! I was in there Tuesday night. That place has been a tourist trap for 20 years, but it turned around all of a sudden. I think I can help you out a little.

You noticed all the Norwegians in there. I got clued into that scene in early August. I've swooped 3 of them. 2 I had to work on, 1 was a fluke.

The 1st one I'm happy to call a regular. Here she is:


The second one has big titties and I fucked her maybe three times on our little date night, then I went to her apartment the second time we got together where I fucked her again. I ignored a call from her last night. Here she is:


Those are big titties:



The third I saw at the beach a few days after meeting her at Moose's, bounced her to another beach, then fucked her in the truck before I took her home, and we didn't exchange numbers. I'm not sure of her name so I have no photos. But the same idea.

I've been to Norway, but only a little. I met a girl in another country, and went there to see her, so I've never really fired at too many Norwegians.

I had some Norwegian guys on my boat one day and they were bitching about how they'd moved all the way to Hawaii, and all they were surrounded with were the girls from their hometowns. When the said all the Norwegians get together at Mosses on Tuesdays I didn't believe it, because of the history of that bar. Kelly Oneil's is my spot, so a buddy and I walked across the street to check it out.

The guy from my boat wound up being there, and gave me some tips about the girls.

As you probably noticed, they are all in excellent shape and spend a lot of time at the beach. They all participate in a sport, or just work out a lot. You can see the jogging bra tan lines on the girl in the first picture. Funny though, the girls all smoke, even if they don't full-time, they will if they have a few drinks. The ones I've been with can't handle much liquor.

They also all have blond hair, but on some of them it seems to get a little bushy or matted maybe. They could easily get some dreads going. What you don't know till you get their clothes off is that none of them shave their bushes. The one in the picture does now after she's been with me. You can tell at the bar most of them have semi hairy bodies, but it's finer blond hairs. I guess they're different about that stuff.

The Norwegian guy told me that all the folks from Norway that came to Hawaii for college have money. These are all millionaire's kids. Him and his Norway buddies were doing a $1800 fishing charter on a Tuesday just for fun, and all three girls I've banged live in Waikiki apartments that are at least $1500 a month. They also have all kinds of jewlery and iPhones and macbook pro's and closets full of shoes and shit.

Another really interesting thing he told me is that the Norwegian girls and guys are absolutely looking to swoop outside of Norway. The guy I knew was going after low-quality Asian's, and the girls were all over everybody but the Norwegian guys.

The guy told me that the rich girls in Norway are SLUTS and you gotta treat them that way. I opposed him on this. I asked him how to say "My name is Kona, How are you?" in Norwegian. He told me that was no good and I needed to talk dirty to them right off the bat, but be funny about it. This guy's cool, so finally he tells me that I want to say "Mitt naven er Kona, Du arre em horre" so I did.

What I didn't know was that this guy just told me to say "My name is Kona, YOU ARE A WHORE" but it worked. The girl in the first picture just started laughing and I didn't get it. She answered back "Is that really how I look" and it was confusing at first but I played through it. Eventually she told me what I said, and the conversation was all sexual from then on.

A good move at Mooses is instead of just standing on the street for a cigarette, walk across to Kelly's where you can smoke inside. Get a drink there. It's sort of an under the table way to get them away from their friends. This is what I was trying with my Norwegian, but her friends started calling/texting like crazy and she wanted to go back. started with the kissing and touching in Kelly's though. After the calls I spent maybe 20 more minutes in Moose's, took her number and left.

I called her the next day. She came to my house for a basic beach date. Then to a restaurant and it was downhill from there.

Basically, things when the same way with the second girl. I didn't walk up and call her a whore, but I used something a little toned down. Within the first 5 minutes I got some "you look like a slut" type comment out, and it hooked. Her I kept in Kelly's for quite a while longer, but same thing, her people started calling. I bailed right there. Called her the next day, got laid a few days later.

The sex with the first girl is fantastic. She took some coaching at first, but I got her sucking my dick the way I like. She really takes care of me. She's athletic enough to handle a pounding. I'm really happy.

The big titty second one was freaking awful. I felt like I was 17. She was just too cumbersome. I don't know if that's just her, but I have a theory about sex with girls with tits that big. It's due to their nipples being less sensitive.

The third one was nothing special either, but that was real quick.

Amour Fou, I think you'll kill it with these Norwegians. A toned down caveman Brasil dude style might be perfect.

Aloha!

It took me a while to read this, as I've been busy with other stuff, but thanks a lot for the input! Hawaii's been a crazy experience for me, but I'm on a point where I realised there is more to do than just chase pussy.

And hey, if you see a tanned, fit bald guy with a deep goattee over at Moose's (or those main places down at Waikiki) you might downright be talking to me!