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I need to make a business card to hand out to 18-22 yo women.

Often, I will be bullshitting with and getting IOI's from some young ho, but cant seem to work into asking for digits. It's more that it will mess up the vibe (fun, teasing, elderly game, I'm 50) than worried about rejection.

Im thinking something along the lines of "Panty Peelers Bedtime Stories LTD" or some other ridiculous thing like that.

I'm guessing Instagram or Facebook would be the preferred contact.

Any thoughts ? Possible credentials I could add ?

Thanks
Panty Peeler

To be mentally strong you must accept life’s difficulties, we all have doubts, fears and challenges. How you approach them will determine your outcome. - Miyamoto Musashi
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I wouldn't be handing out ridiculous business cards to teenagers at 50. Maybe you should do something more mature.
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If getting digits messes up the vibe, then there was no vibe.
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I don't think 18 year olds know what a business card is.

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Quote: (Yesterday 08:09 PM)Repo Wrote:  

If getting digits messes up the vibe, then there was no vibe.

I get what youre saying. Maybe I didnt put my thoughts down exactly as I intended. I have only been daygaming lately.

I feel like, at times, I shouldnt put the young women on the spot by asking for her number. I am able to build comfort, to varying degrees, and I will ask if I can call her depending on the situation.

I just feel like I'm leaving a lot of pussy on the table when the optics might be off for her to give me her number. Lets say I'm at the supermarket and groups of women her age are milling around.

Maybe I should have my phone out and be playing around with it to make it easier for her.

Bed time stories probably aint going to be it. I have a few other ideas. Was hoping to get some feedback that might help me get more 20 yo hotties.

I appreciate the feedback.

To be mentally strong you must accept life’s difficulties, we all have doubts, fears and challenges. How you approach them will determine your outcome. - Miyamoto Musashi
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Quote: (Yesterday 09:13 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

Quote: (Yesterday 08:09 PM)Repo Wrote:  

If getting digits messes up the vibe, then there was no vibe.

I get what youre saying. Maybe I didnt put my thoughts down exactly as I intended. I have only been daygaming lately.

I feel like, at times, I shouldnt put the young women on the spot by asking for her number. I am able to build comfort, to varying degrees, and I will ask if I can call her depending on the situation.

I just feel like I'm leaving a lot of pussy on the table when the optics might be off for her to give me her number. Lets say I'm at the supermarket and groups of women her age are milling around.

Maybe I should have my phone out and be playing around with it to make it easier for her.

Bed time stories probably aint going to be it. I have a few other ideas. Was hoping to get some feedback that might help me get more 20 yo hotties.

I appreciate the feedback.

My sense is that you are placing limiting beliefs on yourself due to your age.

The reality is that, yes, some girls will think you are too old for them.

But many girls have older guy fantasies.

Play into that.

Be the cool, older guy who is comfortable and confident in his own reality.

You're telling us you're not going to ask for girls' numbers on principle?

Remember, you project out into the world what you are feeling.

Own it.

The girls who were never going to be interested in you in the first place don't matter.

Focus on taking actions and acting in a way that would be optimal assuming that the girl likes you.

If a girl likes you, it's better to get her number / social media contact info than to give her a business card.

Or actually maybe it's not.

I think you're falling victim to the allure of a "mechanism"

A "mechanism" is a copywriting term. It means some special "hack" or "trick" that is going to get you the results you want. Fix your problems without you having to do any work.

Such as a magic diet pill.

Or "Texting" your ex back (a dating course that was sold by a known internet marketer called Chris Haddad whose PUA name is "Michael Fiore")

These magic tricks ("mechanisms") are fool's gold.

Expect maybe they're not.

(Man, pick a stance Shakeitt...sorry my autism is off the charts today).

See, maybe they're not because like getting a new haircut or clothes or new "trick" or opener, or whatever...it might be marginally more effective than another tactic...but really it could be that it's helping you indirectly via the confidence you get when you use it. Believing in it makes it work (placebo effect).

So I'm not saying you shouldn't play with the business card idea.

But ask yourself if there's a bigger issue you're obscuring by focusing on this one.

For instance, there are a lot of guys who think that getting an awesome Instagram presence is going to be the one trick that gets them laid, or that they won't be able to game without (ridiculous, I know. But there are people on this forum who believe that...ehemm..)

The point is...bro look at the threads on this forum of 40+ guys (like Giovonny) who have had a lot of success with younger women.

Don't disqualify yourself or project negative outcomes on the interaction. Girls will do that for you.

It's the ones who don't you want to be focusing on.

They'll be glad you got their digits.

And they'll be in your bed later.
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Quote: (Yesterday 09:30 PM)shakeitt Wrote:  

Quote: (Yesterday 09:13 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

Quote: (Yesterday 08:09 PM)Repo Wrote:  

If getting digits messes up the vibe, then there was no vibe.

I get what youre saying. Maybe I didnt put my thoughts down exactly as I intended. I have only been daygaming lately.

I feel like, at times, I shouldnt put the young women on the spot by asking for her number. I am able to build comfort, to varying degrees, and I will ask if I can call her depending on the situation.

I just feel like I'm leaving a lot of pussy on the table when the optics might be off for her to give me her number. Lets say I'm at the supermarket and groups of women her age are milling around.

Maybe I should have my phone out and be playing around with it to make it easier for her.

Bed time stories probably aint going to be it. I have a few other ideas. Was hoping to get some feedback that might help me get more 20 yo hotties.

I appreciate the feedback.

My sense is that you are placing limiting beliefs on yourself due to your age.

The reality is that, yes, some girls will think you are too old for them.

But many girls have older guy fantasies.

Play into that.

Be the cool, older guy who is comfortable and confident in his own reality.

You're telling us you're not going to ask for girls' numbers on principle?

Remember, you project out into the world what you are feeling.

Own it.

The girls who were never going to be interested in you in the first place don't matter.

Focus on taking actions and acting in a way that would be optimal assuming that the girl likes you.

If a girl likes you, it's better to get her number / social media contact info than to give her a business card.

Or actually maybe it's not.

I think you're falling victim to the allure of a "mechanism"

A "mechanism" is a copywriting term. It means some special "hack" or "trick" that is going to get you the results you want. Fix your problems without you having to do any work.

Such as a magic diet pill.

Or "Texting" your ex back (a dating course that was sold by a known internet marketer called Chris Haddad whose PUA name is "Michael Fiore")

These magic tricks ("mechanisms") are fool's gold.

Expect maybe they're not.

(Man, pick a stance Shakeitt...sorry my autism is off the charts today).

See, maybe they're not because like getting a new haircut or clothes or new "trick" or opener, or whatever...it might be marginally more effective than another tactic...but really it could be that it's helping you indirectly via the confidence you get when you use it. Believing in it makes it work (placebo effect).

So I'm not saying you shouldn't play with the business card idea.

But ask yourself if there's a bigger issue you're obscuring by focusing on this one.

For instance, there are a lot of guys who think that getting an awesome Instagram presence is going to be the one trick that gets them laid, or that they won't be able to game without (ridiculous, I know. But there are people on this forum who believe that...ehemm..)

The point is...bro look at the threads on this forum of 40+ guys (like Giovonny) who have had a lot of success with younger women.

Don't disqualify yourself or project negative outcomes on the interaction. Girls will do that for you.

It's the ones who don't you want to be focusing on.

They'll be glad you got their digits.

And they'll be in your bed later.

Great advice, and great writing. I was on the edge of my seat the entire post.

I am really trying to make it more socially acceptable, in certain situations, for her.

I think you made some valid points tho, for sure.

To be mentally strong you must accept life’s difficulties, we all have doubts, fears and challenges. How you approach them will determine your outcome. - Miyamoto Musashi
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Go direct and close with a phone number. Anything else is far less effective if needing to collect a contact method for future interaction. There's a case that can be made for an Instagram close, but the number is still the best if unable to close with a bang on the spot.
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Quote: (Yesterday 09:49 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

Quote: (Yesterday 09:30 PM)shakeitt Wrote:  

Quote: (Yesterday 09:13 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

Quote: (Yesterday 08:09 PM)Repo Wrote:  

If getting digits messes up the vibe, then there was no vibe.

I get what youre saying. Maybe I didnt put my thoughts down exactly as I intended. I have only been daygaming lately.

I feel like, at times, I shouldnt put the young women on the spot by asking for her number. I am able to build comfort, to varying degrees, and I will ask if I can call her depending on the situation.

I just feel like I'm leaving a lot of pussy on the table when the optics might be off for her to give me her number. Lets say I'm at the supermarket and groups of women her age are milling around.

Maybe I should have my phone out and be playing around with it to make it easier for her.

Bed time stories probably aint going to be it. I have a few other ideas. Was hoping to get some feedback that might help me get more 20 yo hotties.

I appreciate the feedback.

My sense is that you are placing limiting beliefs on yourself due to your age.

The reality is that, yes, some girls will think you are too old for them.

But many girls have older guy fantasies.

Play into that.

Be the cool, older guy who is comfortable and confident in his own reality.

You're telling us you're not going to ask for girls' numbers on principle?

Remember, you project out into the world what you are feeling.

Own it.

The girls who were never going to be interested in you in the first place don't matter.

Focus on taking actions and acting in a way that would be optimal assuming that the girl likes you.

If a girl likes you, it's better to get her number / social media contact info than to give her a business card.

Or actually maybe it's not.

I think you're falling victim to the allure of a "mechanism"

A "mechanism" is a copywriting term. It means some special "hack" or "trick" that is going to get you the results you want. Fix your problems without you having to do any work.

Such as a magic diet pill.

Or "Texting" your ex back (a dating course that was sold by a known internet marketer called Chris Haddad whose PUA name is "Michael Fiore")

These magic tricks ("mechanisms") are fool's gold.

Expect maybe they're not.

(Man, pick a stance Shakeitt...sorry my autism is off the charts today).

See, maybe they're not because like getting a new haircut or clothes or new "trick" or opener, or whatever...it might be marginally more effective than another tactic...but really it could be that it's helping you indirectly via the confidence you get when you use it. Believing in it makes it work (placebo effect).

So I'm not saying you shouldn't play with the business card idea.

But ask yourself if there's a bigger issue you're obscuring by focusing on this one.

For instance, there are a lot of guys who think that getting an awesome Instagram presence is going to be the one trick that gets them laid, or that they won't be able to game without (ridiculous, I know. But there are people on this forum who believe that...ehemm..)

The point is...bro look at the threads on this forum of 40+ guys (like Giovonny) who have had a lot of success with younger women.

Don't disqualify yourself or project negative outcomes on the interaction. Girls will do that for you.

It's the ones who don't you want to be focusing on.

They'll be glad you got their digits.

And they'll be in your bed later.

Great advice, and great writing. I was on the edge of my seat the entire post.

I am really trying to make it more socially acceptable, in certain situations, for her.

I think you made some valid points tho, for sure.

"I am really trying to make it more socially acceptable, in certain situations, for her. "

That's a good point. I like how you're addressing that girls are a product of their environment and societal expectations, more than anything.

Most "age" objections are simply societal mantras that we have been bashed over the head with. I just saw a buzz feed article today shaming the DJ Moby for dating Natalie Portman when she was like 19.

As Roosh has said very eloquently in one of his posts "the true nature of women", girls fill the container they're in.

So perhaps there are ways to identify girls who might be disillusioned with society's "rules"?

A social outcast, per say?

Art student who has a "teacher" / "older guy" fetish?

Whose very identity is founded upon rejecting social norms because those same social norms tore her apart because she wasn't cool or popular enough when she was younger, but as a late bloomer is hitting her stride at 19 or 20?

Just another thought.

But I would perhaps search this forum for tips on overcoming or neutralizing the age thing...cuz it's just another challenge that can be overcome.

Have you tried considering moving to a place where age gaps are not as demonized, or even encouraged, or at least where no one blinks an eye at them?

Don't sell yourself short.

You will have more value in certain venues, contexts, and locations. Another thing to consider.
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Quote: (Yesterday 10:12 PM)shakeitt Wrote:  

Quote: (Yesterday 09:49 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

Quote: (Yesterday 09:30 PM)shakeitt Wrote:  

Quote: (Yesterday 09:13 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

Quote: (Yesterday 08:09 PM)Repo Wrote:  

If getting digits messes up the vibe, then there was no vibe.

I get what youre saying. Maybe I didnt put my thoughts down exactly as I intended. I have only been daygaming lately.

I feel like, at times, I shouldnt put the young women on the spot by asking for her number. I am able to build comfort, to varying degrees, and I will ask if I can call her depending on the situation.

I just feel like I'm leaving a lot of pussy on the table when the optics might be off for her to give me her number. Lets say I'm at the supermarket and groups of women her age are milling around.

Maybe I should have my phone out and be playing around with it to make it easier for her.

Bed time stories probably aint going to be it. I have a few other ideas. Was hoping to get some feedback that might help me get more 20 yo hotties.

I appreciate the feedback.

My sense is that you are placing limiting beliefs on yourself due to your age.

The reality is that, yes, some girls will think you are too old for them.

But many girls have older guy fantasies.

Play into that.

Be the cool, older guy who is comfortable and confident in his own reality.

You're telling us you're not going to ask for girls' numbers on principle?

Remember, you project out into the world what you are feeling.

Own it.

The girls who were never going to be interested in you in the first place don't matter.

Focus on taking actions and acting in a way that would be optimal assuming that the girl likes you.

If a girl likes you, it's better to get her number / social media contact info than to give her a business card.

Or actually maybe it's not.

I think you're falling victim to the allure of a "mechanism"

A "mechanism" is a copywriting term. It means some special "hack" or "trick" that is going to get you the results you want. Fix your problems without you having to do any work.

Such as a magic diet pill.

Or "Texting" your ex back (a dating course that was sold by a known internet marketer called Chris Haddad whose PUA name is "Michael Fiore")

These magic tricks ("mechanisms") are fool's gold.

Expect maybe they're not.

(Man, pick a stance Shakeitt...sorry my autism is off the charts today).

See, maybe they're not because like getting a new haircut or clothes or new "trick" or opener, or whatever...it might be marginally more effective than another tactic...but really it could be that it's helping you indirectly via the confidence you get when you use it. Believing in it makes it work (placebo effect).

So I'm not saying you shouldn't play with the business card idea.

But ask yourself if there's a bigger issue you're obscuring by focusing on this one.

For instance, there are a lot of guys who think that getting an awesome Instagram presence is going to be the one trick that gets them laid, or that they won't be able to game without (ridiculous, I know. But there are people on this forum who believe that...ehemm..)

The point is...bro look at the threads on this forum of 40+ guys (like Giovonny) who have had a lot of success with younger women.

Don't disqualify yourself or project negative outcomes on the interaction. Girls will do that for you.

It's the ones who don't you want to be focusing on.

They'll be glad you got their digits.

And they'll be in your bed later.

Great advice, and great writing. I was on the edge of my seat the entire post.

I am really trying to make it more socially acceptable, in certain situations, for her.

I think you made some valid points tho, for sure.

"I am really trying to make it more socially acceptable, in certain situations, for her. "

That's a good point. I like how you're addressing that girls are a product of their environment and societal expectations, more than anything.

Most "age" objections are simply societal mantras that we have been bashed over the head with. I just saw a buzz feed article today shaming the DJ Moby for dating Natalie Portman when she was like 19.

As Roosh has said very eloquently in one of his posts "the true nature of women", girls fill the container they're in.

So perhaps there are ways to identify girls who might be disillusioned with society's "rules"?

A social outcast, per say?

Art student who has a "teacher" / "older guy" fetish?

Whose very identity is founded upon rejecting social norms because those same social norms tore her apart because she wasn't cool or popular enough when she was younger, but as a late bloomer is hitting her stride at 19 or 20?

Just another thought.

But I would perhaps search this forum for tips on overcoming or neutralizing the age thing...cuz it's just another challenge that can be overcome.

Have you tried considering moving to a place where age gaps are not as demonized, or even encouraged, or at least where no one blinks an eye at them?

Don't sell yourself short.

You will have more value in certain venues, contexts, and locations. Another thing to consider.

These are all things to consider. I am thankful for your sharing of your thoughts and insights.

To be mentally strong you must accept life’s difficulties, we all have doubts, fears and challenges. How you approach them will determine your outcome. - Miyamoto Musashi
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I would vote against the card. It doesn’t look “natural”. I thought you were looking for help designing a fake credentials card. Like “movie producer” or something similar to bang Seeking Arrangement girls.
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Quote: (Yesterday 06:51 PM)Fuck This Wrote:  

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"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling
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I have seen guys successfully pull with business card game on a flight (as recent as this weekend a guy in first class got a number of female passenger across from him that way)
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LOL Knew a guy from the Black Tie benefits circuit in Boston who was the son of a Major Commercial Insurance Brokerage Agency in Boston/Cambridge. Clearly, he did not want to give away that he worked in the family business at first contact. Since he truthfully invested in Boston/Cambridge businesses he found out about via his Insurance Brokerage work... He printed up some Global Investments Group LLC Private Equity Cards with his Name Phone and email but no title... would hand his card to prospects with a quick "This is my company - Call me" - or if a really hot lass hand her his pen with a "why don't you write your contact info on the back"... and hand it back to him. Of course, the number was his Cell Phone Burner App so calls were not coming into his family offices switchboard.

Today a young bangler's contact info is Cell Text #, Email, Facebook, Twitter, IG or increasingly LinkedIn.
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I've thought of this before back when I was a pussy looking for an easy way out.

Unless you're a photographer or talent scout, or are in a professional/high-class setting, this is retarded. You'll be viewed as socially disabled.

Improve your # close technique and you'll be fine. Determine what words you think will work best for your style and memorize them. It takes less than 20 minutes, and I doubt there'll ever be significant variation.
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