[ndsamkw]

I met a girl (7.5) at a festival and hung out with that weekend. Things didn’t progress past heavy making out because she was on her period. However after she kept sending me messages and indicating interest. She offered to come to my city but given her vacation days and my (likely) responsibility to split the costs at least, I decided to join her at a work conferenced in another state.

In the few weeks in between festival and conference, we talked a bunch and she clearly wanted it. She made me get an STD test which I obliged and so on. All in all I felt pretty good about it.

Fast forward to trip, I met up with her at hotel but she wouldn’t kiss me in lobby, which she says is to prevent coworkers from seeing us. Fine. In hotel room, she demurs after some heavy makeout because she doesn’t want to give it up right away and would prefer to wait until after our date that night. We spent the rest of the afternoon cuddling and talking before heading to the restaurant. She tells me she likes me and I dodge a response. One red flag is that she keeps getting snaps from her former drug dealer boyfriend during the afternoon whom she dumped because he was hooking up with a prostitute. But I didn’t object beyond minima because it’s her life etc.

I bring her to a nice but not too fancy spot a short Uber ride away. Dinner is relaxed and fun and she’s into me. I started to show her some childhood photos and noticed a slight change in energy but nothing concrete. I did have a couple of glasses of wine so could be the cause.

At end of meal I go to her side of the booth and try to make out with her. She rejects me and says she doesn’t want to make out in an empty restaurant.

I hold her hand in the Uber back (just to see if she pulls away) and once back in the room we start making out. I ask her what’s wrong after she resists advances and she replies, “Nothing.”

Once I try to get her pants off she says she can’t because the situation is too forced and expectations are too high. I sit on the couch and start digging for some info. She then says that she was sexually assaulted a month ago and this triggered her because she has feelings for me—even though she’s been with guys since then. She started to cry (and told me it’s only the fourth time ever) before asking how she can make it up to me and apologizing for wasting my time and money.

I’m inclined to call horse shit but I’m curious to hear others’ thoughts. Also is it worth spending another night? Flight is tomorrow so I’m leaning towards just getting a hotel room.

[Monkey Business]

Wow, there is much more going on here than just flying to a city to meet a chick. Something many here would caution against, but some would say go for it and enjoy the life you can live. That's all up to you, man, no judgments coming from me for that. BUT...and speaking from experience here; bail and never look back on this chick. Hit that eject button bro. I've been there, where in the course of normal events, it's time to have sex, and then they drop the sex bomb repellent of, "I was abused, raped, molested, etc." Besides the point of having been abused, and being emotionally and physically unavailable, it sounds like she's a drug addict, and has constant contact/keeping tabs on the ex boyfriend who supplied her habit. And if she is a genuine victim of a sexual-abuse, then she is also likely a habitually bad decision-maker without a positive male role-model in her life that lead to her being vulnerable to abuse in the first place. Exhibit A being a drug dealer boyfriend. Anyways, multiple red flags here. Not worth the headache she is/will be inducing.

So if the question is, do you want to smash this girl having been out of pocket on a trip to what you thought was a pussy adventure, I would caution even against that. I mean first off, how do you plan to proceed to smash after she has implanted this mind virus into you? She basically mind-fucked you; telling you, she was raped and is unavailable for sex. AFTER an STD test? fucking LOL, AND luring you out to come see her on a business conference. Whereby which, and best believe, if you weren't there she would have some guy from corporate up in her hotel room, dropping sex repellent on him in your stead. Speaking from experience again, these women will fuck anyone on an out-of-state business conference because it's a different a zip-code from where they live and it doesn't count.

So back to whether you want to smash or not, and the mind-fuck. You're probably wondering how to proceed, right? "Do I keep being masculine and pushing for sex or do I pull back and be 'respectful' and not pursue her sexually, cucking myself." It's a fucking catch 22 and a headache that isn't worthy of your time. Unless you want to do the only thing that likely works on these girls, which is go Alpha Gorilla mode, and throw her down on the bed next chance you get, rip her pants off and go to town. But then you're likely to catch a charge doing that. I don't know, maybe more experienced members here can help with passing the, "I've been raped," LMR, but it doesn't look good and I'd cut my losses if I were you.

[outback]

The period, the rape, the STD test... it's not real... she's just still nervous around you, but clearly likes you.

She started getting nervous when you agreed to 'split the costs' and go to her work conference city (you just kissed her at a festival?, seems like a desperate move) for no reason other than to bang her.

But she's still giving you a chance by saying that she's banged other guys since the 'rape'. She wants you to grow some balls and be cool. Your behaviour is solely focused on banging her... the flight, the contrived dinner, the heavy making out, but you're having no fun!! She's told you this too, it's too much.

You need to be a cool guy on the final night, be authentic, do something that you think is fun so she'll see the real you, who she wants to be attracted to. She doesn't want a sex-obsessed, desperate guy.

And she's smacking you in the head telling you this! What more can she do to get you to be normal! Kissing her in the hotel lobby at a work conference when you've met her once at a festival?! What are you thinking?!

Be cool, be your fun, chilled out self. Make her have a fun, no sex pressure vibe time.. If you do, she might tell you how comfortable she is and drop the defences and open up to you.

[Latan]

   

Find an other one, which won't fuck your life up in the near future.

[PapayaTapper]

(05-01-2019 08:02 AM)ndsamkw Wrote:  

One red flag is that she keeps getting snaps from her former drug dealer boyfriend during the afternoon whom she dumped because he was hooking up with a prostitute. But I didn’t object beyond minima because it’s her life etc.

That aint her ex boyfriend...its her pimp.

Offer her $200 and see if all her "issues" dont magically evaporate

You took a pro hoe on a dinner date

[standard]

She does sound like it.

[kaotic]

Girl Game recognized on this - she strung you along and played you.

NEVER fly to meet up with a girl you've never banged.

Can't catch feelings for a hoe you met during festival season.

[PantyPeeler]

Agree 100% with Kaotic. I'd add a piece of advice, I think I read in "Day Bang" by Roosh, is to not go for the kiss until you have her in your room. This single, simple piece of advice has helped improve my game.

I only have Day Bang on audibles which makes it harder to take notes and to reread important parts so forgive me if I cited the wrong author. This advice was entirely counter intuitive to me but after some contemplation it makes perfect sense in many many ways.

The no kiss advise was to allow her to justify going back to your room for a kiss. In this instance she was also at a work conference, which is another reason to not kiss her in the lobby of the hotel. Even if it wasn't a work conference I think you should hold off on the kissing in public until after you've banged.

Unless you've walked her to her car to END THE NIGHT, kissing her will not increase the chances of a bang. If you do end the night with a kiss, do not go for the kiss during your next date until after you have her at your place.

This girl has too much drama. Taking way too much effort. Has a drug dealing ex that she is stringing along and she lives far far away. Hopefully you get the bang for your efforts. Either way Id cut ties when the trip is over.

[Geomann180]

Don't.

G

[Nightcrawler]

Any level of rejection from any woman, you are duty-bound as a man to defend your honor and never speak to her again. Keep it moving, bro!

[Kentemo]

(05-01-2019 05:11 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

NEVER fly to meet up with a girl you've never banged.

^^This.

Speaks so hard to me, since I exactly did the same.
I flew to a country I didn't like for a girl (first time here, but the girl was the reason I went). Once I arrived, she rather spend her vacation with class mates.
Beforehand, she got me all excited etc.. Last time I'll do that.

Time to take that redpill now..

[spydersuit]

I have flown out to bang chicks with a full plan on how to ditch the woman and go run game as a fun weekend trip if it goes south. Especially, in winter months to places like Miami. I always got the bang from the girls, AND the girls always had issues.

On one such adventure I fucked this girl 5 minutes into meeting her face to face and made this girl cum for the first time. It turns out her lifestyle was a disgusting mess. Like actually filthy. She fell asleep and I ghosted to a hotel near the beach. Girl then drove 2 hours to the beach to hunt for me... lol.

Anyways, this chick of yours is for sure a hoe, and likely has a serious relationship. She is worried about her messing around with you getting back to her social circle. She is feeling you out because she is trying to see if you are better than her other options. Kudus to her for having enough self control.

Make her come to you if you continue to pursue. Call her out on her lack of affection. Do not offer her any physical affection in public /kissing - touching. Continue to build attraction mentally through conversation. Maybe a few good kisses in the bed, and then proceed to undress her. Maybe pull out the cock and see if she will suck it? We all know this girl is really a freak on the inside.