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Getting free rent as a live-in boyfriend
05-06-2019, 06:38 PM
OK, so it's “not that manly” to live out of a girl's house... as if the only rational response to the social elevation of women (due to employment, contraception and legal abortion) is to keep spinning the corporate hamster wheel here in western society, trying to be the next Jeff Bezos, meanwhile the all-female HR department down the hall snarkily chatters on about “diversity;” or otherwise to go overseas and specialize in teasing destitute young girls with the prospect of their being rescued out of abject poverty if only they give up the goods. I could probably do those things if I wanted to, but, by a turn of fate, my life has taken a different tack, one of a comfortable, easy existence in a very highly developed society, with more sex than I know what to do with and the freedom to move on at a moment's notice. I am a male living in a feminist country, because I prefer the comforts of my homeland, but I try to do so on my own terms, and sometimes that means saying “no” to a girl who could kick me out on the street at a moment's notice. But often it just makes her want to serve me even better. The logic of Western civilization is for men to “buck up” and try to stay ahead of the now-socially-ascendant females. Well, my response is--fuck Western civilization. Y'all don't need another obedient gopher to help stock the shelves of this consumerist utopia. Furthermore, fuck paying for women in any situation. I've got perhaps hundreds of notches and not hardly any of them came from giving a woman something of financial value, certainly nothing more than a snack or a drink, and more often than not, that seemed to turn women off.
Then there's Papi Rico, the total party-pooper, with his virtue-signaling, cheap moralism, evoking the specter of a bona fide Social Justice Warrior. “You're wrong, evil, problematic (and by comparison I am so much better),” proclaims the SJW. Socially ambitious to an extent, he pursues a promotion in his little (imagined) hierarchy of non-player moralists by exposing and publicly fixating on all the bad behaviors in others that he can. It's a low-cost approach to ladder-climbing, since the SJW doesn't have to take any risks by sharing something of his own, or making an effort at a thoughtful contribution to the discussion, but, like a vulture, he cruises around the forum looking for participants to “call out” in pursuit of a sense of dominance or moral superiority.
I know this breed. I have crossed paths with these proud guardians of justice in the course of my travels and my game. When I'm couchsurfing with friends or lovers, sometimes there's this slightly less-attractive, less-comfortable-in-his-body beta male friend/orbiter hanging around off to the side, and he is fastidious to preserve the existing order in which he has already invested dearly, and not see it interrupted by a rogue like myself. He's a man who works hard at his shit-wage job to pitch in for rent, but nobody really took the time to consult about whether he'd mind my staying over, because nobody really cared. He'll be harboring an obvious passion for the girl who friend zoned him that I've been savagely tearing apart in her bed for the past few weeks, and casting bitter glances my way or acting cold and terse until finally he bursts forth (generally via some digital medium) with his angry assertion of the inherent “nefarious” quality of my conduct, how I'm responsible for all the hardships in his community, since by comparison I don't lift a finger when I don't want to, and don't respect the women that I'm sexually involved with, when he would treat them the way they rightfully deserve. Some of these white knights even succeeded at making the situation so tense and hostile when it didn't need to be that I gladly went on my way. And I'm the “dick.” Sounds an awful lot like some of the incel chatter I've heard, bitter and resentful because somebody else's life is easier or more pleasant.
I, for one, don't dabble in SJW game, since it's lame and boring. Furthermore, it's transparently hypocritical, since none of us are really morally pure, least of all in a forum where a prominent ethos is something like “Western society is a joke, it's failing, so let's loot the joint and at least get ours while there's still something left.” There are plenty of tactics proffered here and elsewhere that irk (or maul) my own moral sensibilities, but I don't give in to the temptation to join the moralistic feeding frenzy because “all is fair in love and war.” For example, nobody is asking whether it's “valid, correct, or laudable” to lie to your girlfriend about having a mistress because... drum roll please... nobody cares! Plus, that would be time better spent reading something I enjoy that entertains me or I find useful, rather than trolling random strangers who themselves took the risk to put their own goods out on display.
And where did this idea come from that it's OK to live at a girl's but only “if she is happy with it at the end?” Am I on the right forum? Since when were any of your girls happy at the end of a casual relationship? Really? That's why it ends! Somebody always ends up meeting a newer, more interesting fuck-buddy, and letting the old slag fall by the wayside, come what may. And don't get me into the well-worn adage of a female's regret after she comes to her senses the next morning after a night of debauchery, the “walk of shame,” and the butthurt woman's bitter vengeance when you reject her for somebody hotter or better. “Hell hath no fury...” These tropes are clichéd, so to foist this ridiculous and irrelevant standard upon my own variant of game demonstrates the writer's bias, like a police officer planting drugs, or a witch-trial mob throwing somebody in the river “to see if she floats.” It unfairly pre-judges the result. “If she's happy at the end” is a premise offered in bad faith.
Seriously, who here is arguing that it's moral or righteous to do any of the stuff we discuss here openly? I don't generally come to this forum for personal ethical guidance, but rather to share in the discussion with fellow players from all walks of life, to gain insight from the varied experiences of others, giving and receiving what I hope is helpful advice where it might be needed or requested, that such threads might be of entertainment or even practical value to others. Certain topics, like promoting rape, prostitution and human trafficking are off limits here, as they should be, which I suspect is owing more to the risk for bad optics and the overt illegality, versus any sense of enforcing a code of moral conduct on others. I personally do not find very useful even the woman-hatred or the misogyny that flows through at a steady trickle, because it's too narrow and shallow a view to pin the hardships of life upon another person or a whole gender when The Lord Himself explicitly undertook to punish our species, and make us suffer while we yet live (Genesis 3:17). But when I see such low-value on offer, it just goes right in one ear and out the other, like at an AA meeting... “take what you like and leave the rest.”
Christ said “let he who is without sin cast the first stone” and “Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.” Think about that next time you're focusing your attention on the supposed evil of others. And yes, Robert High Hawk, your judgments were personal and not merely topical... so it was funny to see you try to dial it back like you weren't talking shit.
The most constructive critique was from Shimmy, who wrote that this lifestyle would probably hurt my own professional career. I'm assuming he meant that being taken care of would cause my provider muscles to atrophy, which is probably true. I'm genuinely grateful for that input, because it offered something of practical value, something to chew on, and not just a cheap shot at my character.
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