Share your stories of encountering Western beggars (or almost beggars such as lowlives selling worthless crap on the streets) in 3rd world countries.
Western beggars in 3rd world countries
Quote: (04-23-2019 08:59 AM)the-dream Wrote:
Share your stories of encountering Western beggars (or almost beggars such as lowlives selling worthless crap on the streets) in 3rd world countries.
I love this kind of dudes, they are a small revenge for the new norm in European capitals: 3rd world beggars (or almost beggars such as lowlives selling worthless crap on the streets) in Western world countries.
The day the streets of Dakar, Accra, Istanbul and Peshawar are filled with foul-looking, unemployed, roaming destitute Westerners, can't be very far and then, local populations shall taste a bit of their own medicine. Or behead them, alternatively.
Quote: (04-23-2019 09:51 AM)Going strong Wrote:
Quote: (04-23-2019 08:59 AM)the-dream Wrote:
Share your stories of encountering Western beggars (or almost beggars such as lowlives selling worthless crap on the streets) in 3rd world countries.
I love this kind of dudes, they are a small revenge for the new norm in European capitals: 3rd world beggars (or almost beggars such as lowlives selling worthless crap on the streets) in Western world countries.
The day the streets of Dakar, Accra, Istanbul and Peshawar are filled with foul-looking, unemployed, roaming destitute Westerners, can't be very far and then, local populations shall taste a bit of their own medicine. Or behead them, alternatively.
Ya the problem is that this isn't really happening - rather SJW "lets find myself" backpacker types are running out of money/pretending to in nice places like Thailand and Bali (2nd world) and further crapping the reputation westerners have over there.
Thankfully this gets put down by probably the very competitive and not that well off street sellers/buskers/tuk-tuk driver types in these places, not to mention local people who know the difference between absolute and relative poverty.
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There was a guy in the bodybuilding online community that left America and moved to Thailand as a digital nomad and his online business failed him and ran out of savings. He did not want to return to America and work like everyone else. So he decided to throw a fake charity and begged for money thinking nobody would find out since he was in a third world country. He begged people on instagram and manipulated one of his friend's that is popular on instagram to help him bring awareness for his fake charity.
He received $18,000 for his fundraiser claiming he needed like $20,000 for a surgery in Colombia and that his first surgery for $10,000 failed and bankrupted him.
Here he is thanking everyone for the $18,000 USD that he received. What an actor.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BrBZXqpg4aB/
He claimed his hospital bill was over $10,000 and bankrupted him and needed another surgery or he would lose his leg. As someone who has lived in Colombia, Medellin and went to a Colombia Emergency room and knows Colombian prices, I knew it was bullshit. I contacted the hospital myself for the bill because i have strong morals and hate to see lazy lying pieces of shits like this get handouts. (he had the hospital name on his instagram then removed it when people asked him for the receipts) but they told me they couldnt do nothing due to privacy laws.
I would be surprised if his hospital was even over $300 USD. When I went to the emergency room in Medellin, I paid like $30 usd
Sadly nothing has been done. Gofundme doesnt care. Only posting this because of this thread subject.
He received $18,000 for his fundraiser claiming he needed like $20,000 for a surgery in Colombia and that his first surgery for $10,000 failed and bankrupted him.
Here he is thanking everyone for the $18,000 USD that he received. What an actor.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BrBZXqpg4aB/
He claimed his hospital bill was over $10,000 and bankrupted him and needed another surgery or he would lose his leg. As someone who has lived in Colombia, Medellin and went to a Colombia Emergency room and knows Colombian prices, I knew it was bullshit. I contacted the hospital myself for the bill because i have strong morals and hate to see lazy lying pieces of shits like this get handouts. (he had the hospital name on his instagram then removed it when people asked him for the receipts) but they told me they couldnt do nothing due to privacy laws.
I would be surprised if his hospital was even over $300 USD. When I went to the emergency room in Medellin, I paid like $30 usd
Sadly nothing has been done. Gofundme doesnt care. Only posting this because of this thread subject.
I'm not condoning this by westerners, but I think you guys need to take into account that some people may have absolutely burned their bridges back home when being homeless in SEA. Older men for example that may have fell victim to a scam by a girl, sometimes lose all their savings or property they bought in the country. It's retarded, don't get me wrong, but there's guys in say Pattaya that are walking around with legitimately no way to get home. Do you think their families really want anything to do with them after finding out they went to Thailand to bang?
As for backpackers, it's possible some may have come from broken homes or very little family. It's still a horrible horrible look for YOUNG westerners to be out begging, but it is not out of the realm of possibility that they can't go home. However, for younger blokes it's usually because they did something even more stupid than the boomers who get seduced.
With that said, we do have a safety net that most people in the third world don't. You need to have a couple grand stashed away for emergency cash to get home. You need to go back to your country if you have no money. It's like asking your neighbor to house you when you still have your own house right down the street. Despite seeing homeless in the west, there are provisions to try and prevent people from being homeless there that are not afforded in the third world. Not to mention it's easier to make fast money and network for recovery at home.
This is one point of view I thought of. Other countries might be getting a taste of their own medicine for how the developed world feels about their less fortunate. I don't think people want to have to take care of other people outside of their nuclear family. To be fair though, I never really see Thai homeless in the US. Plus, I don't think a lot of westerners would survive on the streets too long in poorer countries. All things considered, Thailand is more second class and is more willing to put up with tourists because the country gets rich off them despite these types.
As for backpackers, it's possible some may have come from broken homes or very little family. It's still a horrible horrible look for YOUNG westerners to be out begging, but it is not out of the realm of possibility that they can't go home. However, for younger blokes it's usually because they did something even more stupid than the boomers who get seduced.
With that said, we do have a safety net that most people in the third world don't. You need to have a couple grand stashed away for emergency cash to get home. You need to go back to your country if you have no money. It's like asking your neighbor to house you when you still have your own house right down the street. Despite seeing homeless in the west, there are provisions to try and prevent people from being homeless there that are not afforded in the third world. Not to mention it's easier to make fast money and network for recovery at home.
Quote: (04-23-2019 09:51 AM)Going strong Wrote:
I love this kind of dudes, they are a small revenge for the new norm in European capitals: 3rd world beggars (or almost beggars such as lowlives selling worthless crap on the streets) in Western world countries.
The day the streets of Dakar, Accra, Istanbul and Peshawar are filled with foul-looking, unemployed, roaming destitute Westerners, can't be very far and then, local populations shall taste a bit of their own medicine. Or behead them, alternatively.
This is one point of view I thought of. Other countries might be getting a taste of their own medicine for how the developed world feels about their less fortunate. I don't think people want to have to take care of other people outside of their nuclear family. To be fair though, I never really see Thai homeless in the US. Plus, I don't think a lot of westerners would survive on the streets too long in poorer countries. All things considered, Thailand is more second class and is more willing to put up with tourists because the country gets rich off them despite these types.
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Quote: (04-23-2019 09:15 PM)TravelingBodybuilder Wrote:
There was a guy in the bodybuilding online community that left America and moved to Thailand as a digital nomad and his online business failed him and ran out of savings. He did not want to return to America and work like everyone else. So he decided to throw a fake charity and begged for money thinking nobody would find out since he was in a third world country. He begged people on instagram and manipulated one of his friend's that is popular on instagram to help him bring awareness for his fake charity.
He received $18,000 for his fundraiser claiming he needed like $20,000 for a surgery in Colombia and that his first surgery for $10,000 failed and bankrupted him.
Here he is thanking everyone for the $18,000 USD that he received. What an actor.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BrBZXqpg4aB/
He claimed his hospital bill was over $10,000 and bankrupted him and needed another surgery or he would lose his leg. As someone who has lived in Colombia, Medellin and went to a Colombia Emergency room and knows Colombian prices, I knew it was bullshit. I contacted the hospital myself for the bill because i have strong morals and hate to see lazy lying pieces of shits like this get handouts. (he had the hospital name on his instagram then removed it when people asked him for the receipts) but they told me they couldnt do nothing due to privacy laws.
I would be surprised if his hospital was even over $300 USD. When I went to the emergency room in Medellin, I paid like $30 usd
Sadly nothing has been done. Gofundme doesnt care. Only posting this because of this thread subject.
Holy shit. I've seen this dude around before and watched some of his videos on youtube when I saw his leg shit and the whole time I was thinking that the 10k bill seemed a little pricey for all that where he was. Makes sense now, thanks. Wtf lol.
Quote: (04-23-2019 09:15 PM)TravelingBodybuilder Wrote:
There was a guy in the bodybuilding online community that left America and moved to Thailand as a digital nomad and his online business failed him and ran out of savings. He did not want to return to America and work like everyone else. So he decided to throw a fake charity and begged for money thinking nobody would find out since he was in a third world country. He begged people on instagram and manipulated one of his friend's that is popular on instagram to help him bring awareness for his fake charity.
He received $18,000 for his fundraiser claiming he needed like $20,000 for a surgery in Colombia and that his first surgery for $10,000 failed and bankrupted him.
Here he is thanking everyone for the $18,000 USD that he received. What an actor.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BrBZXqpg4aB/
He claimed his hospital bill was over $10,000 and bankrupted him and needed another surgery or he would lose his leg. As someone who has lived in Colombia, Medellin and went to a Colombia Emergency room and knows Colombian prices, I knew it was bullshit. I contacted the hospital myself for the bill because i have strong morals and hate to see lazy lying pieces of shits like this get handouts. (he had the hospital name on his instagram then removed it when people asked him for the receipts) but they told me they couldnt do nothing due to privacy laws.
I would be surprised if his hospital was even over $300 USD. When I went to the emergency room in Medellin, I paid like $30 usd
Sadly nothing has been done. Gofundme doesnt care. Only posting this because of this thread subject.
I watched some of his youtube vids a while back. Seemed like a solid dude. Thats unfortunate if true.
Funny enough had an expat do the exact same thing in Saigon. Some junkie esl teacher supposedly needed a heart transplant and his family did a GFM for over $30,000. His uncle who was peddling the GFM in the expat groups on FB lives in my building lol.
Then next day somebody in the expat FB group spotted the junkie on Bui Vien spending his loot.
The whole thing about these beggars being "stuck" is BS. As far as I know most 1st world countries will lend you money for a return ticket and expenses to fly home, you just have to go the embassy or consulate of wherever you are.
Quote: (04-23-2019 02:44 PM)wellrockthecity Wrote:
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One reason to say no to these people is to give them the message:
You should not be here, go home! There are too many genuinely poor people around to give them money.
One afternoon I was out walking in Pasig, in Metro Manila in a residential area. White guy walks up to me, wearing a dirty t-shirt, shorts, and flip-flops with filthy feet.
Says he's got no money for a taxi, asks how to walk back to his hostel / rooming house in Ermita. American accent, in his late 20s/early 30s.
Now, that's a hike, especially given the Pasig river and all of the pedestrian obstructions along the way. About 10km/6 miles.
I just pointed in the direction of Ermita and said "just walk in the direction of the setting sun, you'll get to the bay near your hostel."
Quote: (04-24-2019 12:54 AM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:
The whole thing about these beggars being "stuck" is BS. As far as I know most 1st world countries will lend you money for a return ticket and expenses to fly home, you just have to go the embassy or consulate of wherever you are.
Mind you, if one is from a small, not-powerful country, one might not have an embassy or consulate set in Thailand or wherever the problem arises. And an honorary consul would do no good in such a (costly repatriation) case.
Granted, most Westerners would have an embassy to go to, either their own or the embassy of an allied country (like the case of Americans in NK, who would I guess use the Swedish embassy if need arises).
In any case, do not expect a warm welcome if you come in as a beggar and ask for a sanitary repatriation. Repercussions are to be expected, further along the line.
Beggar: *tells me sob story*
Me: No.
That's every interaction with beggars in 3rd world countries. Local and non-local.
If a guy is well dressed and looks genuine, then I'll help. That's happened once and I was the one that approached him.
Me: No.
That's every interaction with beggars in 3rd world countries. Local and non-local.
If a guy is well dressed and looks genuine, then I'll help. That's happened once and I was the one that approached him.
Quote: (04-24-2019 07:42 AM)VNvet Wrote:
Beggar: *tells me sob story*
Me: No.
That's every interaction with beggars in 3rd world countries. Local and non-local.
If a guy is well dressed and looks genuine, then I'll help. That's happened once and I was the one that approached him.
If a guy is well dressed and looks genuine, he's the one who should be giving you money, though.
In any case, please tell us the story of how you met and what happened and how the well-dressed dude ended up penniless on the other side of the world, it is probably an interesting, colourful story.
Quote: (04-24-2019 07:42 AM)VNvet Wrote:
Beggar: *tells me sob story*
Me: No.
That's every interaction with beggars in 3rd world countries. Local and non-local.
If a guy is well dressed and looks genuine, then I'll help. That's happened once and I was the one that approached him.
Well, sorry to break it to you, but you're probably still falling for the same thing, except worse.
Have you ever heard of the term "corporate beggars"?
Their modus operandi is to dress really nice (typically in a suit) and hit you with their BS "oh, someone just picked my pocket, I'm stranded" type story.
Except you might just run into the same guy telling you the same story a month later.
I was once approached by an obvious gringa selling chocolate bars on a street in Medellin, after she mentioned that she was from California, I asked her why the fuck she was selling chocolate bars. She went on to tell me about how she got strung out on blow, tried to smuggle back a kilo in her stomach, got busted then spent three years in a local prison. After listening to her crazy story, I bought all of her bars, gave her a few extra bucks and wished her luck.
Quote: (04-26-2019 07:57 AM)scotian Wrote:
I was once approached by an obvious gringa selling chocolate bars on a street in Medellin, after she mentioned that she was from California, I asked her why the fuck she was selling chocolate bars. She went on to tell me about how she got strung out on blow, tried to smuggle back a kilo in her stomach, got busted then spent three years in a local prison. After listening to her crazy story, I bought all of her bars, gave her a few extra bucks and wished her luck.
Certainly sounds intriguing...
Part of the challenge of these things, 1st world or 2nd, is that so many of the stories given are difficult/impossible to confirm without wasting a day or more setting up an investigation and running surveillance to see if their actual lifestyle is consistent with their down and out claims.
Quote: (04-26-2019 07:57 AM)scotian Wrote:
I was once approached by an obvious gringa selling chocolate bars on a street in Medellin, after she mentioned that she was from California, I asked her why the fuck she was selling chocolate bars. She went on to tell me about how she got strung out on blow, tried to smuggle back a kilo in her stomach, got busted then spent three years in a local prison. After listening to her crazy story, I bought all of her bars, gave her a few extra bucks and wished her luck.
It's funny how they let them stay in Colombia after.
I bought some weed chocolates off some French girls in the street, they didn't get me stoned but I felt sick.
The strung out coke slut was court ordered to stay there for a few months on some type of probation before she left, I guess she was selling chocolate bars to buy a return ticket lol.
I've seen two Russian guys begpacking with signs in Saigon, was gonna do something to them but I had my chick on the back of the bike.
Quote: (04-29-2019 05:08 AM)scotian Wrote:
The strung out coke slut was court ordered to stay there for a few months on some type of probation before she left, I guess she was selling chocolate bars to buy a return ticket lol.
Was gonna say that's probably the most lenient coke smuggling sentence I heard of, but then you mentioned this was after three years in a Colombian (female) jail.
Maybe it's worth starting a "fucked up westerners stuck in limbo abroad" thread to warn members of pitfalls to avoid.
Remember years ago when backpacking through SEA on a budget (pre-red pill) I was looking at places to stay in Melaka and stepped into this guesthouse that I read good reviews about. Immediately started chatting with this older British guy staying there who started telling me about how the bottom had completely fallen out of the construction industry in the UK and he was just slowly burning through his meagre remaining funds and trying to find peace. There was some other older western lady with him through her body language I figured had a similar story of her own, though after hearing the first story was afraid to
The whole experience depressed me to such an extent I just decided to pay the extra $20 for a private room at the guesthouse two doors up the road.
I met a guy here in the Philippines. International chef and one of the more charismatic people you'd meet (when still half sober). Damn, the man is a genius in the kitchen - foreign entrepreneurs here are always giving him a break, job-wise, just because of his talent. And people will regularly go wherever he's found the latest gig just to eat his food.
Complete wreck of an alcoholic, though, and he screws it up every time and then blames whoever gave him a chance.
I always see him passed out on the sidewalk down on the boardwalk.
Cut his leg about a year ago and it has been in and out of infection ever since - they initially almost had to amputate it because he let it get so bad. Mostly just because he won't get off the piss long enough to let his body heal.
Filipinos keep asking me why he doesn't go home and get a job. I think he's on a long overstay at this point, which could be a mess to sort out, but he supposedly has a rich brother who sends him cash from time to time in a pinch.
It's brutal to see. Cunt is always asking me for money too.
Complete wreck of an alcoholic, though, and he screws it up every time and then blames whoever gave him a chance.
I always see him passed out on the sidewalk down on the boardwalk.
Cut his leg about a year ago and it has been in and out of infection ever since - they initially almost had to amputate it because he let it get so bad. Mostly just because he won't get off the piss long enough to let his body heal.
Filipinos keep asking me why he doesn't go home and get a job. I think he's on a long overstay at this point, which could be a mess to sort out, but he supposedly has a rich brother who sends him cash from time to time in a pinch.
It's brutal to see. Cunt is always asking me for money too.
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"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling
I find myself turning more and more into one of these dudes when I hit Guatemala, minus the begging
I show up with my inheritance, and like to save cash. My hygiene isn’t real good down there, I eat local food, wander the streets, and typically make friends with the scroungy locals selling stuff or doing tricks in the middle of traffic
I’m like them, though I relatively have cash, so I’ll buy pizza for everyone some times. I’ll laugh as they try to game the gringas, as they will as I try the locals
I show up with my inheritance, and like to save cash. My hygiene isn’t real good down there, I eat local food, wander the streets, and typically make friends with the scroungy locals selling stuff or doing tricks in the middle of traffic
I’m like them, though I relatively have cash, so I’ll buy pizza for everyone some times. I’ll laugh as they try to game the gringas, as they will as I try the locals
Quote: (04-29-2019 06:17 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:
I met a guy here in the Philippines. International chef and one of the more charismatic people you'd meet (when still half sober). Damn, the man is a genius in the kitchen - foreign entrepreneurs here are always giving him a break, job-wise, just because of his talent. And people will regularly go wherever he's found the latest gig just to eat his food.
Complete wreck of an alcoholic, though, and he screws it up every time and then blames whoever gave him a chance.
I always see him passed out on the sidewalk down on the boardwalk.
Cut his leg about a year ago and it has been in and out of infection ever since - they initially almost had to amputate it because he let it get so bad. Mostly just because he won't get off the piss long enough to let his body heal.
Filipinos keep asking me why he doesn't go home and get a job. I think he's on a long overstay at this point, which could be a mess to sort out, but he supposedly has a rich brother who sends him cash from time to time in a pinch.
It's brutal to see. Cunt is always asking me for money too.
Oh man, this totally reminds me of a guy I used to know at a previous piss testing job. Would be brilliant at doing what he had to do, and then consume copious amount of drugs while off the clock. Just seeing him live his daily life was sheer hilarity. Was unbelievable how close he could intertwine his two worlds without getting caught.
Becoming red pilled since then I'd say while he was this way partly for fun and chemical addiction, part was it was due to long unresolved personal issues that he did not want to confront head on and fix root-cause wise. Alpha in some domains of his life and cringefully blue pill in others. Will definitely let him know my thoughts if we cross paths again.
Won't say anything further to avoid doxxxage, as he never asked me for money once and had my back a few times when I needed it.
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