[sterling_archer]

(02-20-2019 01:37 AM)Aurini Wrote:  

Up until now, I felt pity for incels. I can't even watch that video. It breaks my heart.

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she will still have a higher SMV than us

[Mage]

Checked out that website, saw nothing funny, it's sad, waste of time.

Spending time to laugh about those in the darkness to capture the feeling of superiority is but ego stroking and leads into hubris.

[The Stronger Sex]

It gets more sinister

[infinitejest]

Yeah at first glance this was funny, but whatever humor was there quickly faded. That place is just a cesspool of guys wallowing in their own self-pity. It looks like the site has only been up since 2018, yet many of the posters there already have thousands of posts. They whine about how ugly they are and how much they hate having to leave their NEETcaves while also complaining that girls never look at them and only go for Chads. They also use this term unironically. We would never even encounter these guys in reality because they hide themselves from as much of the outside world as possible. Getting directed to this site is probably the best hope they have at ever learning some advice to improve themselves, but from a cursory glance at that website it appears that 99% of them are beyond saving.

Great timing on the return of the one month account activation.

[Leonard D Neubache]

If this forum and that one were combined then we'd have a solution to the earth's energy crisis, or our universe would instantly disappear into a singularity.

[The Beast1]

@Leonard, there was a guy in another thread who mentioned "looksmatch". I believe that term came from that site.

Explains a ton!

[Aurini]

(02-20-2019 08:29 AM)Mage Wrote:  

Checked out that website, saw nothing funny, it's sad, waste of time.

Spending time to laugh about those in the darkness to capture the feeling of superiority is but ego stroking and leads into hubris.

Agreed, but - it is worth being aware of.

[scotian]

I remember that PUA site used to have hilarious threads about RVF on there, there was one big one about who the real G manifesto was, holy shit that was hilarious, some of the theories they had going were good for a laugh.

Then one of those weirdos doxxed a senior RVF emeber by posting his real photo, I won't mention his name but if you read RVF from 2011-2015 you'd know who it was (drunk southerner lol). That was a pretty shitty thing to do and the thread remained active on that site until the day that Eliot Rodgers psycho went on a shooting rampage and they closed it down. A sad day for sure but I know one at least one RVF was pretty happy when Puahate got shut down.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(02-20-2019 07:19 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

(02-20-2019 01:37 AM)Aurini Wrote:  

Up until now, I felt pity for incels. I can't even watch that video. It breaks my heart.

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she will still have a higher SMV than us

[Horus]

This forum is fascinating. Here a cracking post that covers how to deal with loneliness.

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I used to make my hand numb by sitting on it then touch my skin, in an attempt to get an idea what it is like for someone else to touch your body.

That's actual pretty clever!

[The Catalyst]

Honestly reading that it's got a very different vibe from PUAHate. PUAHate literally was just picking fights with random PUAs and people like Roosh etc. I've been scrolling through a bit and for the most part what they say is either funny or neutral. I disagree with their blackpill premise nor do I think their anti-bragging rule is reasonable but I understand where they're coming from.

I would not recommend reading them for anyone who doesn't have high emotional stability though. If you don't then you would feel they are really "negative" and "a dark pit" and "toxic" etc. However if you are stoic enough and/or have some sort of emotional disassociation you can take them and their discussion as is. I find their discussion is better than general normie or bluepill discussion. To me it's also pretty funny.

Also since I disagree with their blackpill premise I believe a lot fewer guys should actually follow their beliefs than they say but if you're the bottom 1-3% of guys or so then doing so then it might be reasonable especially if you don't care all that much about self-improvement. I strongly believe that you have to test out your theory that you have no chance with girls by actually approaching though.

WRT the girl who disfigured her face. I'm not sure if I'm reading it wrong but really the majority of posters seemed to support the girl. Am I living in an alternative reality or what? Obviously they aren't going to be politically correct about it. I expected them to hate/despise the girl but it didn't seem to be the majority or even a substantial amount of them. Edit: A lot of them were cold/uncaring sure- but it's about expectations, why would you expect them to care? Apathy is different from hate.

From what I can see it's got a very similar vibe to imageboards like 4chan. So you have to think about their culture in that context. They are less politically correct and more edgy for rhetorical flair than normal. My guess is(not knowing their heads/brains) that people from here or other normies often feel significantly more depressed/negative reading what they write than the incels themselves do.

[moneyshot]

The masochist in me wants to check it out, if only for the laffs, but I think I've seen enough just from reading the samples provided by the intrepid members of our community already. Hard pass.

[KMK]

(02-20-2019 09:33 AM)infinitejest Wrote:  

Yeah at first glance this was funny, but whatever humor was there quickly faded. That place is just a cesspool of guys wallowing in their own self-pity. It looks like the site has only been up since 2018, yet many of the posters there already have thousands of posts. ....

Incels.is was the original and went up in 2015, the host nuked it and they moved to .me while porting all the old forums/accounts/post counts.

[porscheguy]

On the surface, it looks like a bunch of trolls trying to one up each other. Then you realize there are thousands of posts and it’s real. I’m not sure what their purpose is. They just want to complain that the world isn’t fair. Anyone who makes any move toward self improvement is called out as a chad, tranny, or otherwise undesirable. Fuck these people.

[RatInTheWoods]

(02-20-2019 01:37 AM)Aurini Wrote:  

Up until now, I felt pity for incels. I can't even watch that video. It breaks my heart.

"she will still have a higher SMV than us" self burned

[Heuristics]

Step 1: Masquerade as a "looksmaxing" incel on that forum, bodybuilding and getting plastic surgery. You got laid because of it.
Step 2: Watch meltdowns and reactions with glee.

[CDRhodes]

I took a quick look
“What tattoos make pussy most wet?” was where I lost it.

[Jetset]

[infowarrior1]

(02-20-2019 08:29 AM)Mage Wrote:  

Checked out that website, saw nothing funny, it's sad, waste of time.

Spending time to laugh about those in the darkness to capture the feeling of superiority is but ego stroking and leads into hubris.

The PUAHate website was evil. And was a breeding ground for Elliot Rodger who would feel justified in their atrocities.

It feeds the resentment which they vomit on each other all the time, which leads to hate and a desire for revenge that ultimately gives birth to crime and many ruined lives as in the case of Elliot Rodger.

It is a bottom feeder website that ends up feeding hatred of those who have it better than them. Not unlike the Marxist propaganda that infects our societies today. Feeding their inner demons and growing in monstrousness.

Or it leads to suicide. As those who do not end up getting what they want narrowing the focus of their life to getting laid whilst excluding other fulfilling alternatives.

They worship and idealize the women they want to be with but they are truly chasing what will not truly fulfill. They miss out on what single men going their own way and enjoying their own lives have.

They miss out on the happiness of monks. Hopefully this website is better. But I don't hold out much hope.

[Heuristics]

I have a pretty sad incel story about a friend actually, will talk about it in a sec...

(02-22-2019 02:25 PM)CDRhodes Wrote:  

I took a quick look
“What tattoos make pussy most wet?” was where I lost it.

Ironically tattoos are a great way to pre-select women, i think others have written about it on the forum. As many say, nothing gets a girl going like a motorcycle or tattoos.

(02-23-2019 02:54 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  

(02-20-2019 08:29 AM)Mage Wrote:  

Checked out that website, saw nothing funny, it's sad, waste of time.

Spending time to laugh about those in the darkness to capture the feeling of superiority is but ego stroking and leads into hubris.

The PUAHate website was evil. And was a breeding ground for Elliot Rodger who would feel justified in their atrocities.

It feeds the resentment which they vomit on each other all the time, which leads to hate and a desire for revenge that ultimately gives birth to crime and many ruined lives as in the case of Elliot Rodger.

It is a bottom feeder website that ends up feeding hatred of those who have it better than them. Not unlike the Marxist propaganda that infects our societies today. Feeding their inner demons and growing in monstrousness.

Or it leads to suicide. As those who do not end up getting what they want narrowing the focus of their life to getting laid whilst excluding other fulfilling alternatives.

They worship and idealize the women they want to be with but they are truly chasing what will not truly fulfill. They miss out on what single men going their own way and enjoying their own lives have.

They miss out on the happiness of monks. Hopefully this website is better. But I don't hold out much hope.

I will talk about a personal experience I had with an incel who was a close friend who I would of never expected to be one, but first let me talk about incels in general:

I have not checked out PUAhate, that being said Rodger’s problem is pretty clear, it looks like a textbook case of narcissism, maybe some autism thrown in, as well as some Hapa rage. It is a well-known fact that mixed race people have identity issues, especially in their teenage years. It is especially bad with Hapas.

Rodger never tried pick up. That much is clear. I think on a few occasions he said “hi” to a woman, or if not that, looked in the general direction. That was it.

As happens way too much in the internet age, you get stuck with opinions that confirm your point of view based on your inclinations. That’s why so many incels are committing suicide— they’re too stupid to realize the self-loathing, self-hating reinforced by their peers leads to it. Much like women being affected by self-harm stuff, anorexia stuff on the web/ instagram/ other social media.

Case in point, this dude, who looks like the dude in the Vice video. He looks halfway decent, but I see several things wrong right off the bat: can’t get out of his head, obviously living with parents, drug addiction (maybe result of severe anxiety), and homebound (ie not leaving his house like many of the men in Japan do). What the fuck do you expect when you’re not improving your life? Anyway, I don’t condone prostitution, but as many have mentioned before, incels need access to prostitutes. Unlike almost all other guys, this one got a prostitute, and I think as he says in the video, he felt better. This guy actually had the balls to fly to vegas and get a prostitute. Other incels will just bitch and do nothing. At least this guy did something.

Knowing an incel: I had a friend I met abroad who was an incel, but it took me about 4 months of knowing him pretty well, hanging out with him about several times a week to find out. Keeping in mind we were talking about everything and were pretty good friends. He did not fit the mould of an incel. He was 6’-9”, in fantastic shape, with very atypical features for someone from his country. You could look at this guy on the street and think he was a killer, in other words, a dangerous alpha male. He trained in fighting and was a national champion. He also street fought. To put it succinctly: he was a very dangerous individual and he had his fair share of near-death experiences. I have met very few people that could just inspire fear by looking at you. This guy was one of those guys. Despite that, he had the most pleasant personalities of anyone I’ve ever met. He was a very relaxed guy who had a very introverted and intellectual side to him. He surpressed it. By drinking massive amounts of alcohol. If you are familiar with Andre the giant, this guy was him, but not fat. I feel a lot of sympathy for him— he is a tough guy but he’s tremendously misunderstood.

I had heard he had been with a prostitute while out of the country, one of the guys had bought one for him because he was still a virgin… In male circles in his home country, they dealt with guy’s virginities by buying them prostitutes.

I just said that incels need prostitutes, but maybe it’s not all of them. I say this because this guy still has a complex about that encounter despite it being over five years later. If anything, he is more beta than ever despite the fact that he has nearly killed people. He is actively gaming, but he can not pull the trigger on taking a girl home, despite death-level alcohol consumption.

This guy is ahead of 95 percent of the crowd but still hasn’t had sex with a girl (non-prostitute). He has a complex. His standards with women have even gone up since being with that prostitute. There’s no hope for him, much like other incels, although he could get laid if he actually tried. Like other incels he has a serious complex with not much chance of improving.

[Donfitz007]

6’9 scares off most women ESPECIALLY if they’re weird or creepy in ANYWAY.

[Heuristics]

(02-23-2019 07:46 PM)Donfitz007 Wrote:  

6’9 scares off most women ESPECIALLY if they’re weird or creepy in ANYWAY.

If there's anything to take away from his story it's this: there are guys who literally want to settle down with one woman ASAP, guys that are alphas in every way apart from having sex with one or multiple women casually, and they can't stomach the casual sex culture. They detest it. In many ways pretty sad, but they are clinging to values 50 years too old, or if they are in conservative countries, maybe 20-30 years outdated. It is almost guaranteed now that all women are participating in the casual sex culture, and will not settle down until at least 30 years of age, if not later. You can blame work, media propaganda, feminism, and advancements in IVF despite the fact that it's fucking expensive. As a man, you're required to run the casual sex gauntlet unless you're an alpha christian guy, to fuck your way to sexual dominance. Put another way: men now have to have way more casual sex (probably double) than their (marriage/ LTR) partner to have some chance of their relationship succeeding long term.

He was not creepy, although a bit introverted. No problem approaching women. Perhaps the thing that sucked for him is that he refused to dress like a hipster (my advise to him to soften his look), and that he held very traditional values. He had dated before, made out before, etc... But never fucked a non-prostitute.

Very intelligent guy, but most girls would put him in the box of "brute". Funny enough, he is an artist from a well-off family.

[Donfitz007]

No I agree it’s a great story but he’s at a massive disadvantage being 6’9. No matter what he’ll look brutish. I played basketball all my life and the sweet spot to most girls seem to be 6’3-6’6. All my 6’7+ friends had a harder time getting women. In my experience guys that tall need wingmen.

[Heuristics]

(02-23-2019 08:17 PM)Donfitz007 Wrote:  

No I agree it’s a great story but he’s at a massive disadvantage being 6’9. No matter what he’ll look brutish. I played basketball all my life and the sweet spot to most girls seem to be 6’3-6’6. All my 6’7+ friends had a harder time getting women. In my experience guys that tall need wingmen.

He clung to having his hair short and his beard long (not a popular combo in his country). He told me he had a wing, but the guy was just such an oddity i don't think it helped much.

From my understanding he drank to an excess (20 beers or so before approaching) and started behaving like a caveman. Self-cockblock in other words.

[mxb]

I'mma let you finish, but actually PUAHate reborn is lookism.net

"incels.is" users themselves reject the notion that they are "puahate".

On the other hand, the most common acronym on "lookism.net" is "PSL". It refers to the 3 web sites that started with "puahate" and ended with "lookism.net"

These are some of its users (the ones who post their faces publicly)
Orb:


Tehnoslav:

Crisick:


My all-time favorite quote there is "Optimism is for cowards". As someone who's always considered himself an optimist I was like "whoa, that's deep!"

The forum's essential philosophy is that there are two pills:

* "the red pill" = women are sluts, and
* "the black pill" = looks are very important (and people who deny it are "coping")



But sometimes "the black pill" refers to the so-called BBC theory, which states that women instinctively prefer tall muscular black dudes to almost everyone except "chads" (very attractive white guys).



There are many other theories, mostly about what facial features make one look more or less attractive. I won't do them justice by trying to list all of them here, but to me personally, as someone who never understood why people would call one guy good-looking (facially) and another one not, they were entertaining if not educational.

Some of the more entertaining ones include "the buzz cut theory" (hot guys look better with buzz cuts, ugly ones look worse)



RvF's own pet theory is that guys should buzz their hair and their beards. According to Lookism, oftentimes that's a mistake.

P.S. incels.is use similar jargon, but they lack the spirit or something. Very boring and low energy.