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Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide
#26

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

Quote: (02-01-2019 02:03 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Quote: (02-01-2019 01:11 PM)astro Wrote:  

If you read the note, she had very sensory satisfactions versus spiritual and intellectual. Something to be said there.

THIS!

So much this!

It's all materialism versus spiritualism.

Her writings reads of someone who was dead inside and only filled that void with food and traveling.
She could have filled that void with my penis and we both would be happy.

Delicious Tacos is the voice of my generation....
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#27

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

Quote: (02-01-2019 01:33 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

I was halfway done writing a response to her suicide note but then I said fuck it.

This is just sad man.

We hardly know this chick beyond the basic chick photos she took, I'll giver her a bit of doubt but things have to be said.

I gotta admit even her note sounded something like a basic chick would say.

She was "tired" - I mean come the fuck on, look at how much she traveled and ate.

At least she even admitted it was a first world problem.

She wasn't your "haaaapy", I'll never understand this.

You live in America, you might be struggling to make ends meet, but you're in America.

Unless you prefer Somalia?

Every single fucking day above ground is a goddamn blessing.

You have the choice to change things, life isn't a broken record (only if you let it be).

Desperate times can call for drastic changes.

I can never forgive a perfectly healthy in mind/body/spririt young person taking their own life, bar something at the far end of the spectrum.

It's absolutely selfish, and I guarantee she had people she could talk to.

She could've worked this out, she was stuck in a rut, all she needed was a bump in the right direction.

I still to do this day, do not understand depression, I just don't.

Even if it's clinical I truly believe in my heart that it's a mindset no matter what, even if you have to battle it every single day, you still win, it only makes you stronger.

Of course it's environmental, she grew up in a soul-sucking Crowleyan do what thou wilt culture of spiritual enslavement and atomized alienation. She would have actually been better off in a shithole like Somalia, where she would have been surrounded by her extended family and married with children by her 20s. She would have been involved in deeply rewarding feminine pursuits that would have filled her days, like taking care of her children, making pies for her family instead of making pie charts in her corporate cubicle farm. Women are much better off in countries like Saudi Arabia than in the West. They (and the rest of us) have been brainwashed to believe the opposite.

[Image: MAIN-Drunk-woman-tube-pizza.jpg]

The main difference between this happa girl and the majority of strong, independent womyn is that their depression usually sets in later in life, once the wall looms larger and the carousel loses its appeal, that poor girl here was just a little precocious.

“Nothing is more useful than to look upon the world as it really is.”
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#28

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

Dietitian my ass! What; bread, pasta, pizza, cappuccino`s, wine, beer, pretzels...intuitive eating[Image: smile.gif] No wonder she needed meds. (probably) I feel sorry for her, but it`s a shame that quacks like that can get away with calling themselves dietitians, or any title related to health and medicine.

I noticed also that the only pictures where she looked genuinely happy where the one`s with small children involved. There`s a hint for you as to what was missing in her life.

We will stomp to the top with the wind in our teeth.

George L. Mallory
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#29

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

I'm curious to know what took her father's life. There are some pictures of them together on her Instagram when she was barely a toddler, she clearly thought of him often.

Hidey-ho, RVFerinos!
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#30

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

We can expect more of these in the future.

"She had everything going for her"

Bottom line is chicks are lied to about what will give their lives meaning and fulfillment.

"Does PUA say that I just need to get to f-close base first here and some weird chemicals will be released in her brain to make her a better person?"
-Wonitis
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#31

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

Get them married and pregnant. Problem solved.

I simply don't need to say anything else. This is all you need to know.
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#32

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

RIP. There is a lot here that we can probably dissect regarding so-called Women's Empowerment and the Instagram Generation, but the fact is, you never know someone's demons, and the fact she ended her life tells me this was probably not done for attention. If she wanted attention she could go on Tinder - five minutes later, problem solved. She was from San Francisco which is the thirst capital of the universe. For an attractive woman to commit suicide there, of all places, tells me her pain was real and that we probably shouldn't mock it. Depression is something a person's looks can give you no insight to. It is usually rooted in the individual's brain chemistry or trauma from their childhood, neither of which are affected by how good looking that individual appears to be once they grow up. Could this have been avoided if she settled down, reproduced with a good man, and lived the trad life instead of a Sex and the City one? I say, almost certainly no. And in that case her needless death would've traumatized her children in the bargain. Hope she found whatever peace she was looking for in the end.

"If you're gonna raise a ruckus, one word of advice: if you're gonna do wrong, buddy, do wrong right."
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#33

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

I feel really uncomfortable speculating, such is the nature of modern times, that I feel like it plays into what's wrong with modern society, millisecond based judgements on limited facts, Instagram photos, etc.

It was only yesterday I was thinking of how bad it's going for people right now in the US--just so many people feeling empty and lacking larger purpose. This goes doubly for larger cities that are pressure-cookers for feeling like you're unable to keep up. That being said, no one is shedding tears for the Carnage happening to working class, and younger males in Middle America right now. It's indicative of a malaise in society. We've completely debased everything into consumerism and status contests. Anyway, the spirits of many in the cities are crushed. There's no meaning in their lives.

I keep drawing parallels to Russia after fall of the soviet Union. Massive alcoholism, drug use, suicides, violent crime, and people feeling utterly crushed. Theres really no excuse for this shit to be happening in the US. No one cares, politicians don't care, families are broken, there's no cohesion and anxiety and depression are increasing massively. Job market is screwed, and no I'm not gonna fucking code. It won't be long until coding is redundant too. The trend is disturbing and it will get much worse.

SSRIs and Xanax are being handed out like candy but they don't treat the root cause, which is a decline society where there is no spiritual, no metaphysical, no grand narrative. Self hating nihilism and a lack of proper traditionalist values were pushed by marxists, deviating us from our path to meaning and truth. I encourage everyone to do themselves a favor, and call up friends family, etc. Support systems are there for a reason. Get off social media, Netflix, etc; volunteer and help someone out, maybe an old person. Change starts at the individual level, and we have to bring back some cohesion rather than callous indifference to our neighbors and fellow humans.

My condolences.
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#34

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

Quote: (02-01-2019 02:23 PM)911 Wrote:  

[Image: MAIN-Drunk-woman-tube-pizza.jpg]

Well now we know where RBG has been

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- Does She Have The "Happy Gene" ?
-Inversion Therapy
-Let's lead by example


"Leap, and the net will appear". John Burroughs

"The big question is whether you are going to be able to say a hearty yes to your adventure."
Joseph Campbell
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#35

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

Living in New York is a soul-sucking experience. I spent four years there getting a little more worn out every single day from the sheer ugliness of it all -- the dysfunction of the subway, the crap everywhere on the streets, the mindless pedestrians who cause traffic jams because they can't be bothered to wait five seconds for a red light, the antlike character of its globalized population -- and the fact that there's basically no escape from it if you're a person of ordinary means. Sure, there's lots of nice places to eat out. Lots of places to go shopping, if that's what you like. Then what? You're still an atomized Deep Fried Human Nugget in a fetid cage of urban grid.

It's not even like some big Asian cities where things are neat, the public transit works properly, and people behave themselves (or at least stay quiet and courteous).
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#36

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

Quote: (02-01-2019 02:28 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

We can expect more of these in the future.

"She had everything going for her"

Bottom line is chicks are lied to about what will give their lives meaning and fulfillment.

Humans have been conditioned for 10's thousands of years to to deal with real fear (aka physical danger) while societies have been striving to reduce if not eliminate all the sources of said fear.

Western societies have been extremely successful in accomplishing that without really ever considering what would fill that existential void. Hence the rise of fear of ego and manufactured "problems".

Without the ability to appreciate * the positives of living in the safest, healthiest, easiest, era in the history of human kind people like this woman are often left to ruminate themselves into believing their lives "lacking"


* I wrote in another post

Quote:Quote:

Appreciation is a critical component that is often overlooked and or mis-defined

Ive often used the following analogy when discussing the nature of appreciation*

Imagine if you will a glass of water. Now in that water there are a few particles of something floating around. Maybe just a little dust the wind kicked off the kitchen window sill.

[Image: 4defbe1355f8f.image.jpg]


Would you drink it?

Of course not. Youre in the kitchen. You simply dump it, rinse the glass and pour another glass from the filtered water port on the fridge

Most on the forum will recognize this as having "abundance mentality".

But lets change up the hypothetical scenario. Your car breaks down on some remote stretch of road of the Mojave Desert. Your stranded with no cell reception, no provisions and no civilization for 100 miles so you have no choice but to walk out. So you walk for the next 3. 5 days, without food or water and finally stumble across and old abandoned shack. You are at the end of your endurance, cracked tongue and lips from dehydration

You stumble in and there on the counter:

[Image: 4defbe1355f8f.image.jpg]

Would you drink it? Of course. Anyone would. And in that extreme moment that less than pristine glass of water would be the best tasting, most satisfying, most appreciated glass of water of your life. Wouldn't it ?

_______________________________________
- Does She Have The "Happy Gene" ?
-Inversion Therapy
-Let's lead by example


"Leap, and the net will appear". John Burroughs

"The big question is whether you are going to be able to say a hearty yes to your adventure."
Joseph Campbell
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#37

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

Quote: (02-01-2019 01:33 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

I gotta admit even her note sounded something like a basic chick would say.

She was "tired" - I mean come the fuck on, look at how much she traveled and ate.

At least she even admitted it was a first world problem.

She wasn't your "haaaapy", I'll never understand this.

You live in America, you might be struggling to make ends meet, but you're in America.

Unless you prefer Somalia?


Quote: (02-01-2019 02:03 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Quote: (02-01-2019 01:11 PM)astro Wrote:  

If you read the note, she had very sensory satisfactions versus spiritual and intellectual. Something to be said there.

THIS!

So much this!

It's all materialism versus spiritualism.

Her writings reads of someone who was dead inside and only filled that void with food and traveling.

I think this speaks to the heart of the depression epidemic. Food, travel, etc. are often tantamount to entertainment as opposed to nourishment although Eat/Pray/Love Thots actively deny this fact. Entertainment is nice but it does not bring fulfillment.

She reminds me of several girls I've dated or been close friends with. They are 100% focused on gratifying their material wants and ultimately wind up lonely and miserable. I think this woman just couldn't lie to herself like most women (and men) do.

re: living in Somalia, comedian Doug Stanhope has a bit about why kids in Somalia don't commit petty crimes like vandalism: "That 12 year old with an AK-47, he's got bigger fish to fry than how to kill time with his buddies" or something to that effect. Humans' neurological reward system is based on filling our basic needs, like food, shelter, defense, reproduction. Take away the process of earning these things, and we go haywire.

Also, OP says she's a 6? I say she's a 7. WB.
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#38

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

The thing that gets me the most is I like her face. Shes cute enough but that's not what I'm talking about... she seems to have a pleasant aura about her. If I saw her at a party I would definitely approach... not so much for the bang but because she has some sort of intrigue that I would want to learn about. She was obviously introverted and a bit nerdy; That's not a bad thing in the modern thot world.

This story has been gnawing at me all day. Not because some random woman hundreds of miles away from me died... but because this shit is happening every single day. Young people who normally would have happy lives, especially intelligent ones such as this woman, are killing themselves in droves. Whether it be intentional or unintentional... Most of the time it is through drugs, alcohol or prescription medication, while other times its more acute. Its becoming more and more difficult in Western society to find a purpose in life... and more and more easy to become nothing more than a materialistic drone.

Sad fucking state of affairs.

“There is no global anthem, no global currency, no certificate of global citizenship. We pledge allegiance to one flag, and that flag is the American flag!” -DJT
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#39

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

Quote: (02-01-2019 03:49 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Quote: (02-01-2019 02:28 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

We can expect more of these in the future.

"She had everything going for her"

Bottom line is chicks are lied to about what will give their lives meaning and fulfillment.

Humans have been conditioned for 10's thousands of years to to deal with real fear (aka physical danger) while societies have been striving to reduce if not eliminate all the sources of said fear.

Western societies have been extremely successful in accomplishing that without really ever considering what would fill that existential void. Hence the rise of fear of ego and manufactured "problems".

Without the ability to appreciate * the positives of living in the safest, healthiest, easiest, era in the history of human kind people like this woman are often left to ruminate themselves into believing their lives "lacking"


* I wrote in another post

Quote:Quote:

Appreciation is a critical component that is often overlooked and or mis-defined

Ive often used the following analogy when discussing the nature of appreciation*

Imagine if you will a glass of water. Now in that water there are a few particles of something floating around. Maybe just a little dust the wind kicked off the kitchen window sill.

[Image: 4defbe1355f8f.image.jpg]


Would you drink it?

Of course not. Youre in the kitchen. You simply dump it, rinse the glass and pour another glass from the filtered water port on the fridge

Most on the forum will recognize this as having "abundance mentality".

But lets change up the hypothetical scenario. Your car breaks down on some remote stretch of road of the Mojave Desert. Your stranded with no cell reception, no provisions and no civilization for 100 miles so you have no choice but to walk out. So you walk for the next 3. 5 days, without food or water and finally stumble across and old abandoned shack. You are at the end of your endurance, cracked tongue and lips from dehydration

You stumble in and there on the counter:

[Image: 4defbe1355f8f.image.jpg]

Would you drink it? Of course. Anyone would. And in that extreme moment that less than pristine glass of water would be the best tasting, most satisfying, most appreciated glass of water of your life. Wouldn't it ?

That's a totally wrong take, it totally misses the mark.

Young women and men in America weren't committing suicide and getting depressed at the same rates 50 years ago, back when material abundance was at least as great as it today, and the world and urban environment were actually safer than today.

The difference is not that the world is too safe and too materially rich, the difference is that the social environment is significantly poorer today than it was 50 years ago. And this decline is not a consequence of material satiation, as college debt, spiraling housing costs, underemployment and lack of career prospects are recent problems that have made the economic prospects of young people more precarious than those of their predecessors.

It's the cultural changes that are creating depressed young women and men, and those changes have been deliberately created by social engineering.

“Nothing is more useful than to look upon the world as it really is.”
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#40

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

I roughly agree, though I do believe that material satiation does serve as a catalyst for making all those social problems worse.
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#41

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

Quote: (02-01-2019 04:52 PM)Lunostrelki Wrote:  

I roughly agree, though I do believe that material satiation does serve as a catalyst for making all those social problems worse.

The opposite is true, there is a strong link between suicide rates and economic precariousness.

Quote:Quote:

People who earned less than $34,000 were 50 percent more likely to commit suicide, researchers found. People who earned between $34,000 and $102,000 increased their risk for suicide by only 10 percent.

The secret to happiness may simply be having a 9-to-5. "We find that being unemployed or out of the labor force, for any reason, raises suicide risk relative to being employed," the researchers write. Unemployed people, in fact, are 72 percent more likely to commit suicide than people who are working.

https://www.frbsf.org/economic-research/...7-12bk.pdf

Social misery and suicides go up significantly in areas hit by economic depressions.

As well affluent young people are marrying at greater rates than economically disadvantaged ones. People in stable family situations are happier and less likely to commit suicide.

Material affluence is not the issue, if anything, it is a positive factor.

It's a bit more complicated than that, social problems started with the Boomer generation in the 60s, they were victims of social engineering which made them reject the traditional society they grew up in. Two generations later, you have young women leading empty lives getting depressed.

“Nothing is more useful than to look upon the world as it really is.”
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#42

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

Quote: (02-01-2019 04:25 PM)911 Wrote:  

Quote: (02-01-2019 03:49 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Quote: (02-01-2019 02:28 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

We can expect more of these in the future.

"She had everything going for her"

Bottom line is chicks are lied to about what will give their lives meaning and fulfillment.

Humans have been conditioned for 10's thousands of years to to deal with real fear (aka physical danger) while societies have been striving to reduce if not eliminate all the sources of said fear.

Western societies have been extremely successful in accomplishing that without really ever considering what would fill that existential void. Hence the rise of fear of ego and manufactured "problems".

Without the ability to appreciate * the positives of living in the safest, healthiest, easiest, era in the history of human kind people like this woman are often left to ruminate themselves into believing their lives "lacking"


* I wrote in another post

Quote:Quote:

Appreciation is a critical component that is often overlooked and or mis-defined

Ive often used the following analogy when discussing the nature of appreciation*

Imagine if you will a glass of water. Now in that water there are a few particles of something floating around. Maybe just a little dust the wind kicked off the kitchen window sill.

[Image: 4defbe1355f8f.image.jpg]


Would you drink it?

Of course not. Youre in the kitchen. You simply dump it, rinse the glass and pour another glass from the filtered water port on the fridge

Most on the forum will recognize this as having "abundance mentality".

But lets change up the hypothetical scenario. Your car breaks down on some remote stretch of road of the Mojave Desert. Your stranded with no cell reception, no provisions and no civilization for 100 miles so you have no choice but to walk out. So you walk for the next 3. 5 days, without food or water and finally stumble across and old abandoned shack. You are at the end of your endurance, cracked tongue and lips from dehydration

You stumble in and there on the counter:

[Image: 4defbe1355f8f.image.jpg]

Would you drink it? Of course. Anyone would. And in that extreme moment that less than pristine glass of water would be the best tasting, most satisfying, most appreciated glass of water of your life. Wouldn't it ?

That's a totally wrong take, it totally misses the mark.

Young women and men in America weren't committing suicide and getting depressed at the same rates 50 years ago, back when material abundance was at least as great as it today, and the world and urban environment were actually safer than today.

The difference is not that the world is too safe and too materially rich, the difference is that the social environment is significantly poorer today than it was 50 years ago. And this decline is not a consequence of material satiation, as college debt, spiraling housing costs, underemployment and lack of career prospects are recent problems that have made the economic prospects of young people more precarious than those of their predecessors.

It's the cultural changes that are creating depressed young women and men, and those changes have been deliberately created by social engineering.

Someone has Rose colored glasses about 50 years ago and probably feels it was the "Golden Age" of America. Life was better in some ways then with connectedness but material wealth was nowhere near as high them as today whether artificially put there by debt or not.

People owned smaller homes, siblings often shared rooms, there was one TV in the house, people had way less clothes, technology, just about anything. Kids had less toys. People were even on average smaller and shorter then because our diet has improved. This led to a different, huge problem.

Crime was much worse than too. It actually started surging in the 60s all the way through the 90s.

This is easily the most comfortable time in US history. PT was right. If you can't humble yourself, appreciate what you have, where you live and how easy it really is. That's what led to this girl's demise.

I feel bad for her. It's a sad story when anyone commits suicide.
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#43

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

It's anecdotal, but every girl I've ever met who works (or studies) as a dietitian or nutritionist is mentally ill. Doesn't help being in NYC, where there is huge pressure to forgo any thought of family and children to focus on a shitty career.
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#44

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

I'm reminded of a suicide of an by all means successful male food blogger (of asian background) who was an incel. That is a problem women aren't readily facing, and even if men aren't facing that problem, they have much higher mortality rates when it comes to attempted suicides, drug overdoes, alcoholism, incarceration, etc.
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#45

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

Quote: (02-01-2019 05:23 PM)realologist Wrote:  

Quote: (02-01-2019 04:25 PM)911 Wrote:  

Quote: (02-01-2019 03:49 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Quote: (02-01-2019 02:28 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

We can expect more of these in the future.

"She had everything going for her"

Bottom line is chicks are lied to about what will give their lives meaning and fulfillment.

Humans have been conditioned for 10's thousands of years to to deal with real fear (aka physical danger) while societies have been striving to reduce if not eliminate all the sources of said fear.

Western societies have been extremely successful in accomplishing that without really ever considering what would fill that existential void. Hence the rise of fear of ego and manufactured "problems".

Without the ability to appreciate * the positives of living in the safest, healthiest, easiest, era in the history of human kind people like this woman are often left to ruminate themselves into believing their lives "lacking"


* I wrote in another post

Quote:Quote:

Appreciation is a critical component that is often overlooked and or mis-defined

Ive often used the following analogy when discussing the nature of appreciation*

Imagine if you will a glass of water. Now in that water there are a few particles of something floating around. Maybe just a little dust the wind kicked off the kitchen window sill.

[Image: 4defbe1355f8f.image.jpg]


Would you drink it?

Of course not. Youre in the kitchen. You simply dump it, rinse the glass and pour another glass from the filtered water port on the fridge

Most on the forum will recognize this as having "abundance mentality".

But lets change up the hypothetical scenario. Your car breaks down on some remote stretch of road of the Mojave Desert. Your stranded with no cell reception, no provisions and no civilization for 100 miles so you have no choice but to walk out. So you walk for the next 3. 5 days, without food or water and finally stumble across and old abandoned shack. You are at the end of your endurance, cracked tongue and lips from dehydration

You stumble in and there on the counter:

[Image: 4defbe1355f8f.image.jpg]

Would you drink it? Of course. Anyone would. And in that extreme moment that less than pristine glass of water would be the best tasting, most satisfying, most appreciated glass of water of your life. Wouldn't it ?

That's a totally wrong take, it totally misses the mark.

Young women and men in America weren't committing suicide and getting depressed at the same rates 50 years ago, back when material abundance was at least as great as it today, and the world and urban environment were actually safer than today.

The difference is not that the world is too safe and too materially rich, the difference is that the social environment is significantly poorer today than it was 50 years ago. And this decline is not a consequence of material satiation, as college debt, spiraling housing costs, underemployment and lack of career prospects are recent problems that have made the economic prospects of young people more precarious than those of their predecessors.

It's the cultural changes that are creating depressed young women and men, and those changes have been deliberately created by social engineering.

Someone has Rose colored glasses about 50 years ago and probably feels it was the "Golden Age" of America. Life was better in some ways then with connectedness but material wealth was nowhere near as high them as today whether artificially put there by debt or not.

People owned smaller homes, siblings often shared rooms, there was one TV in the house, people had way less clothes, technology, just about anything. Kids had less toys. People were even on average smaller and shorter then because our diet has improved. This led to a different, huge problem.

Crime was much worse than too. It actually started surging in the 60s all the way through the 90s.

This is easily the most comfortable time in US history. PT was right. If you can't humble yourself, appreciate what you have, where you live and how easy it really is. That's what led to this girl's demise.

I feel bad for her. It's a sad story when anyone commits suicide.

This is probably true. My thought is mechanisms of social control have improved over time, and thus we've seen a decrease in crime. Just look at the stats for people spending time in their homes these days-- it's gone up. People are way less social.. Bingeing on netflix, video games, virtual reality, social media, etc. People are still violent, it's just that they're subdued because of distractions. When shit goes south, people are going to resort to their natural behavior.
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#46

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

Quote: (02-01-2019 05:23 PM)realologist Wrote:  

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Someone has Rose colored glasses about 50 years ago and probably feels it was the "Golden Age" of America. Life was better in some ways then with connectedness but material wealth was nowhere near as high them as today whether artificially put there by debt or not.

People owned smaller homes, siblings often shared rooms, there was one TV in the house, people had way less clothes, technology, just about anything. Kids had less toys. People were even on average smaller and shorter then because our diet has improved. This led to a different, huge problem.

Crime was much worse than too. It actually started surging in the 60s all the way through the 90s.

This is easily the most comfortable time in US history. PT was right. If you can't humble yourself, appreciate what you have, where you live and how easy it really is. That's what led to this girl's demise.

I feel bad for her. It's a sad story when anyone commits suicide.

Crime rates were actually significantly lower in the US 50 years ago, about 3 times lower, and even lower before that in the 1950s.

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Whether diets were worse is highly debatable, based on the explosive growth in diet-related illnesses like diabetes, heart disease or cancer. A lot of the increase in size is due to unhealthy industrial additives like growth hormones, aspartame, HFCS and processes like GMOs that did not exist in the 1950s.

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It's true that homes were smaller, with larger households, but there were far fewer single-parent households and singles. Loneliness was not the social plague it is today. As far as overall wealth level, they had the same level of material wealth while women hardly worked, so in fact your purchasing power as a man was twice as high as it is today:

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College and healthcare were far more accessible. About the only thing that's more accessible today is air travel, only the rich flew to Europe or Asia, but local/national vacations were widely accessible.

Since the 1950s, there has been huge increases in technology-driven growth, but the wealth this has generated has mostly eluded the middle classes, which are far more economically precarious today than in the 1950s, due to the dilution of the labor force through women entering the labor force and mass immigration on one hand, and planned deindustrialization/outsourcing on the other. There is no question that we live in more precarious economic times today than in the 1950s.

In any case, the overall economic disparity is not huge, people aren't starving today. The real difference lies in cultural richness, decades ago people lived in far healthier and more stable societies. We live today in culturally degenerate and toxic times, and that is the main source of misery today.

“Nothing is more useful than to look upon the world as it really is.”
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#47

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

It’s the ultimate first world problem, I get it. I often felt detached while in a room full of my favorite people; I also felt absolutely nothing during what should have been the happiest and darkest times in my life. No single conversation or situation has led me to make this decision, so at what point do you metaphorically pull the trigger? - TLC


Social Media probably played a big part in this along with societal expectations. People are more "connected" than ever through the web, yet loneliness and isolation is on the rise in the developed world. Many friendships and relationships seem to be artificial and only exist because one party wants to extract or acquire something out of it for self-benefit. I have had this feeling before. Indeed it is a 1st World problem because if you notice, in less developed countries friendships and relationships are forged through true connection and care for one another, traditional family development allows people to live fulfilling lives, something that is becoming less prevalent in each day as social media cancer grows..



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...559961002/

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style...11781.html

Ultimately, we should care more about being effective than simply nobly intentioned. It is not enough to dream well: the true measure is what we achieve.
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Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

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"Everyone's connected, but noone's connecting"




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#49

Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

This is an absolute and horrible shame.

She saw her future as a cat woman and decided to end it.

I wonder what she was like in her 18-24 years.
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Attractive and Successful 27yo NYC Woman Commits Suicide

Quote: (02-01-2019 06:46 PM)SaintLaurentJake Wrote:  

It’s the ultimate first world problem, I get it. I often felt detached while in a room full of my favorite people; I also felt absolutely nothing during what should have been the happiest and darkest times in my life. No single conversation or situation has led me to make this decision, so at what point do you metaphorically pull the trigger? - TLC


Social Media probably played a big part in this along with societal expectations. People are more connected than ever through the web yet loneliness and isolation is on the rise in the developed world. Many friendships and relationships seem to be artificial and only exist because one party wants to extract or acquire something out of it for self-benefit. I have had this feeling before. Indeed it is a 1st World problem because if you notice, in less developed countries friendships and relationships are forged through true connection[/align] and care for one another, something that is becoming less prevalent in each day as social media cancer grows..



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...559961002/

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style...11781.html

I’ve just started to get plugged into the thoughts of women that are on social media, and I can tell you it’s real troubling. Women have serious complexes—asked for the opinion of a close female friend— and confirmed how cognizant they are of needing validation from social media. In many cases they’re taking hundreds of photos for the one perfect one, and they pull it down if it doesn’t achieve their goal, as dumb as that may sound to us. This goes for men as well, I started asking millennial male friends about it, and I can tell they care almost as much, the younger they are the more conscious of it they are.

It’s somewhat funny that we’ve all banded together on this forum to actually achieve a real brotherhood, friendship, whatever you want to call it. Self-censorship is so onerous in my day-to-day life, I just take it as the new normal.

Friendships definitely seem more transactional, especially once you get outside of your first social circle and have to deal with transitions of moving, school, the workplace, and so on. I can’t tell you how autistic many millennials seem to me. It is a struggle holding conversation with many. In contrast, people older than myself are much easier to engage. Recently I’ve been having beers with some men 40+ and holy shit it’s just so enjoyable to shoot the shit with them. Some of them are keenly aware of the changes that are happening: their sons are addicted to instagram, video games, or internet porn. Many are astutely directionless, and the fathers have an awareness that things are no longer the same, and your life can be decided on a split-second decision from social media or one fuck-up. Shoot man, some of these older dudes crashed multiple cars, but never got arrested, much less were prevented from getting a job.

First world problems are of a different level of magnitude than 3rd world problems, but take a look at Japan, Korea, China, etc to see how much pressure there is on people to succeed at all times, much less confirm to rigid norms/ standards of behavior. Hell, the number of suicides there are astounding. That or men shut themselves in video game cafes or the home and never come out. Something like 1/3 of Japanese younger generation are sexless.

It’s official really: facebook, instagram, et al can do no wrong. The inflection point would have came long ago, but it didn’t. This is the new normal. The only thing that could change it is some massive global conflict, civil war, or shutdown of the internet.
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