[CynicalContrarian]

(02-18-2019 06:10 PM)Scoundrel Wrote:  

Kamala Harris transformed into a stammering fool by a reporter who asks about her "modern day lynching" tweet:
...
I know she's a moron, but you'd think she could have prepared a smoother statement in response.

So what you're saying is; Horizontal Harris was unable to speak, yet she didn't even have a cock in her mouth...?

[TheBowery]

Best list of hoaxes I've seen:
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/109...2965839872

Is there a list of victims of the Trump Derangement Syndrome curse? For example, celebrities like Jussie Smollett, Robert De Niro, and Alec Baldwin who actively protest and then have meltdowns?

[Mr. D]

[Enoch]

(02-18-2019 06:11 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 06:10 PM)Scoundrel Wrote:  

Kamala Harris transformed into a stammering fool by a reporter who asks about her "modern day lynching" tweet:
...
I know she's a moron, but you'd think she could have prepared a smoother statement in response.

So what you're saying is; Horizontal Harris was unable to speak, yet she didn't even have a cock in her mouth...?

Heels up Harris!

[CynicalContrarian]

(02-18-2019 08:24 PM)Enoch Wrote:  

Heels up Harris!

Come next x-mas : Ho, ho, ho Harris!

[Heuristics]

We are living in strange times; for a country that is supposedly so racist, colonialist, xenophobic, anti-Semitic, etc these minority/disadvantaged groups have to manufacture incidents to prove their points. It's basically grievance culture on steroids. Leftist ideology demands victims and oppressors, so when there are no victims, they just make one up out of thin air. Classic Marxist tactics. This goes back more than a few years and pre-dates what we could call the SJW period/ hyper-PC times that started under Obama.

One clear hoax comes to mind that signified the times we were headed towards: the Matthew Shepard gay-hate crime murder hoax. While the younger generation is not aware of it, what happened is this gay guy in wyoming (university student) who had a history of heavy drug use (meth), was at a dive bar and some guys cranked on meth decided they were gonna rob him and in the heat of the moment decided to nearly beat him to death in the winter cold and leave him. This was used by the gay community to push gay rights, including Shepard's family, the family travels around the US lecturing students (in high schools) about gay rights, and so on. When the true context of the situation was revealed--ie it was not a hatecrime-- no one bothered to correct the record. The Shepard case was coincidentally key to passage of hatecrime legislation, and was used by the gays as a sort of Stonewall 2.0.

While I try to refrain from posting articles from the MSM here is all you need to know about the shepard case, per the Guardian (a bleeding heart leftist british news outlet):

Quote:

For 15 years, Matthew Shepard’s unspeakably brutal murder on a lonely prairie in Wyoming has been a byword for the very worst of American anti-gay bigotry and a rallying cry for a more tolerant, more inclusive society.

The 21-year-old University of Wyoming student was found trussed to a fence post, bleeding and half-frozen to death, in a rocky field on the outskirts of Laramie. He had been pistol-whipped so severely that his brain stem was crushed. His killers even removed his shoes, on the off-chance he broke free of his bonds and tried to run to safety.

Shepard’s death inspired the play The Laramie Project – later turned into a television movie – countless songs, a foundation devoted to his memory and a political lobbying effort that pressed for, and eventually obtained, a new federal hate crimes statute named after him.

All this creative energy has been based on an important central premise: that Shepard was targeted solely because of his sexual orientation. According to conventional wisdom, he met his killers by chance in a bar, told them he was gay and left with them when they appeared to respond to his advances. They started attacking him almost as soon as he climbed into their pickup.

It now appears, however, that the conventional wisdom may be wrong. A new book by investigative journalist Stephen Jimenez has challenged many of the central assumptions about Shepard’s murder and argues that anti-gay hatred was not the primary motivation for his killing, if it was a factor at all.

Instead, Jimenez makes a persuasive case – based on interviews with the murderers, their former girlfriends, friends of Shepard’s, and police investigators – that Shepard was already acquainted with his killers, Aaron McKinney and Russell Henderson. That acquaintance hardly casts Shepard in the best light.

All three of them, Jimenez argues, were involved in Laramie’s crystal meth subculture, as users and dealers. McKinney and Shepard may also have had a casual sexual relationship.

“Shepard’s sexual preference … certainly wasn’t the motive in the homicide,” Jimenez quot[ing] police investigator Ben Fritzen as saying. “What it came down to really is drugs and money.” A number of other sources close to the story and the protagonists confirmed much the same thing.

As Jimenez reconstructs it, McKinney was coming down from a week-long meth binge and desperate to cover his mounting debts. He believed, rightly or wrongly, that Shepard could lead him to a delivery of about $10,000 worth of meth coming in from Denver, which he intended to steal. McKinney’s plan was to beat the information out of Shepard, but the beating, fueled by severe drug-induced paranoia, ran quickly out of control.

Jimenez’s findings have sparked outrage from gay rights groups who see his book as an act of betrayal (Jimenez is himself gay). The Matthew Shepard Foundation has accused him of succumbing to “factual errors, rumors and innuendo” to build a sensationalist conspiracy theory and drag Shepard’s name through the mud.

Their outrage has been mirrored on the other side of the political spectrum by some social conservatives crowing that the “gay grievance industry” has taken a knocking.

There you have it, the modern gay rights movement is founded on a myth that has been discredited.

Another case, more recently, was George Zimmerman/ Trayvon Martin, which really was the jumpstart for all the Black Lives Matter stuff and put fuel on the fire for the identity politics movement. Zimmerman was mixed hispanic/ white, while Martin was black. What happened was Martin was roaming a gated community that his father lived in, in the middle of the rain. Zimmerman, part of the neighborhood watch--he had joined because of spate of recent breakins-- saw Martin. Zimmerman got out of his car, he approached Martin, and then next thing you know it, he's on the ground getting punched. How do we know this is true? Well, when the police talked to Zimmerman they saw cuts on him (lacerations) among other injuries. Zimmerman shot Martin fatally. What many left out was Martin was suspended from school at the time, and had a bit of a record. What I would like to point out about the incident and subsequent coverage: a)media edited a 911 call zimmerman made prior to getting beat up by Martin to make it sound like zimmerman was racist, finally they got called out on it when the whole call was released b)Media made every effort to describe Zimmerman as white even though he was a person of color, trying to paint a White on Black hatecrime, c) an effort to paint zimmerman as a blood thirsty killer and an effort to paint him in the least flattering light despite the fact that zimmerman was just trying to protect his community, while at the same time no examination of Martin and anything relevant to their confrontation.

[beta_plus]

(02-18-2019 08:24 PM)Enoch Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 06:11 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 06:10 PM)Scoundrel Wrote:  

Kamala Harris transformed into a stammering fool by a reporter who asks about her "modern day lynching" tweet:
...
I know she's a moron, but you'd think she could have prepared a smoother statement in response.

So what you're saying is; Horizontal Harris was unable to speak, yet she didn't even have a cock in her mouth...?

Heels up Harris!

The_Donald is reporting that Smollett met with Kamala Harris about a week before the attack around MLK day.

If this is true, this is shady af.

However, the article they link to gives no indication, so it may just be a rumor feeding whishful thinking.

[budoslavic]

[url=https://www.twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1097608963623870464][/url]

[CynicalContrarian]

(02-18-2019 09:28 PM)beta_plus Wrote:  

The_Donald is reporting that Smollett met with Kamala Harris about a week before the attack around MLK day.

If this is true, this is shady af.

However, the article they link to gives no indication, so it may just be a rumor feeding whishful thinking.

Far easier for the Demented Democrats to run a POTUS campaign on fear / lynching / false flag hoaxes & the like, as opposed to genuinely constructive policies.

[Teutatis]

(02-17-2019 01:13 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  

The sorter white guy has the same problem as me, a slightly smaller right pec.

[Labienus]

Damn, those two Nigerians are jacked.

[Atlanta Man]

As a black man I must say that the fact that I never believed it, and the streets never believed it show that times have changed. When actual innocent black men are being shot and killed in actual hate crimes ( Gregory Bush ) as a black man I feel anger -but this, this exploitation, this "attention whoring", this race baiting, THIS STAGED HOAX-enrages me. You want to really know why I thought this was fake- I have have a racially motivated attack on me , and I did not want to talk about it. It was the 1980's and these squabbles were common-but I did not want to talk about it-I wanted revenge, not a compassionate ear, and I sure as shit do not like talking about getting my ass whipped (taking ass whoppings suck, unless you set them up). He is totally fucked, this is going to be a long apology tour.....

[Sidney Crosby]

Well when he goes before the grand jury he is going to have to admit it.

[budoslavic]

[url=https://www.twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/1097582873526308869][/url]

[Heuristics]

(02-18-2019 11:42 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

As a black man I must say that the fact that I never believed it, and the streets never believed it show that times have changed. When actual innocent black men are being shot and killed in actual hate crimes ( Gregory Bush ) as a black man I feel anger -but this, this exploitation, this "attention whoring", this race baiting, THIS STAGED HOAX-enrages me. You want to really know why I thought this was fake- I have have a racially motivated attack on me , and I did not want to talk about it. It was the 1980's and these squabbles were common-but I did not want to talk about it-I wanted revenge, not a compassionate ear, and I sure as shit do not like talking about getting my ass whipped (taking ass whoppings suck, unless you set them up). He is totally fucked, this is going to be a long apology tour.....

Atlanta Man, I’m curious about your perspective on Liam Neeson… recently he came out in an interview and said he nearly did a hate crime when he was younger; the context follows: he said that he had a close female friend of his who was raped by a black guy, and he subsequently had these really dark thoughts about getting revenge by killing the first black person he encountered on the streets, so he walked the streets for a week looking for an innocent black victim (I think of Ireland or N. Ireland—this was the 70’s or 80’s I assume)… In other words, a time where people were still thinking in really racial terms. He stated in this interview, which was done for a movie he did, about how he thought the need for revenge was a very bad thing--that's the whole onus for this controversy right now, that's going to have him loose all his film roles because of boycott efforts right now:

Quote:

Liam Neeson has revealed he once walked the streets with a cosh for days looking to kill a “black bastard” after someone close to him was raped many years ago.

The actor shared the previously undisclosed story with The Independent during a press junket for his new film, Cold Pursuit, admitting that he is now “ashamed” of his past “awful” behaviour.

Neeson, who has starred in films such as Taken and Non-Stop, recalled being told about the rape after he returned from a trip overseas.

“She handled the situation of the rape in the most extraordinary way,” Neeson said during the interview, which can be read in full here. “But my immediate reaction was ... did she know who it was? No. What colour were they? She said it was a black person.

“I went up and down areas with a cosh, hoping I’d be approached by somebody. I’m ashamed to say that, and I did it for maybe a week – hoping some [Neeson gestures air quotes with his fingers] ‘black bastard’ would come out of a pub and have a go at me about something, you know? So that I could kill him.”

Neeson said it took him about a week or a week and a half to process what had happened.

“It was horrible, horrible, when I think back, that I did that,” he said. “And I’ve never admitted that, and I’m saying it to a journalist. God forbid.”

He added: “It’s awful. But I did learn a lesson from it, when I eventually thought, ‘What the fuck are you doing’, you know?

“I understand that need for revenge, but it just leads to more revenge, to more killing and more killing.”

[RatInTheWoods]

[kinjutsu]

(02-18-2019 11:42 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

As a black man I must say that the fact that I never believed it, and the streets never believed it show that times have changed. When actual innocent black men are being shot and killed in actual hate crimes ( Gregory Bush ) as a black man I feel anger -but this, this exploitation, this "attention whoring", this race baiting, THIS STAGED HOAX-enrages me. You want to really know why I thought this was fake- I have have a racially motivated attack on me , and I did not want to talk about it. It was the 1980's and these squabbles were common-but I did not want to talk about it-I wanted revenge, not a compassionate ear, and I sure as shit do not like talking about getting my ass whipped (taking ass whoppings suck, unless you set them up). He is totally fucked, this is going to be a long apology tour.....

Preach.
Growing up black can be bad sometimes. When i was growing up, in school i was usually one of a handful of non-white kids (think like 2 black kids, 1 latino, 5 asians and the rest white)

Having to deal with a racial motivated attack is not something i'd to go bragging to the news about.
I'd round up some of my baddest friends and hunt the fuckers down.

This victim culture is gonna be the death of us all. This bitch ass grown adult doesn't represent any one in any black community anywhere. When i heard about this story initially and heard he was gay, i just assumed that we are gonna be subjected to guilt trips about this piece of garbage about and sexuality.

From my point of view, i think gay people in general are their own race. There are a view outliers here and there, but you only see this type of overacting and grandstanding from gay men. Straight men with moderate to high test levels don't even consider this behavior an option.


This smollet dude is the definition of a "bitch ass nigga".

[Bienvenuto]

(02-19-2019 12:27 AM)Heuristics Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 11:42 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

As a black man I must say that the fact that I never believed it, and the streets never believed it show that times have changed. When actual innocent black men are being shot and killed in actual hate crimes ( Gregory Bush ) as a black man I feel anger -but this, this exploitation, this "attention whoring", this race baiting, THIS STAGED HOAX-enrages me. You want to really know why I thought this was fake- I have have a racially motivated attack on me , and I did not want to talk about it. It was the 1980's and these squabbles were common-but I did not want to talk about it-I wanted revenge, not a compassionate ear, and I sure as shit do not like talking about getting my ass whipped (taking ass whoppings suck, unless you set them up). He is totally fucked, this is going to be a long apology tour.....

Atlanta Man, I’m curious about your perspective on Liam Neeson… recently he came out in an interview and said he nearly did a hate crime when he was younger; the context follows: he said that he had a close female friend of his who was raped by a black guy, and he subsequently had these really dark thoughts about getting revenge by killing the first black person he encountered on the streets, so he walked the streets for a week looking for an innocent black victim (I think of Ireland or N. Ireland—this was the 70’s or 80’s I assume)… In other words, a time where people were still thinking in really racial terms. He stated in this interview, which was done for a movie he did, about how he thought the need for revenge was a very bad thing--that's the whole onus for this controversy right now, that's going to have him loose all his film roles because of boycott efforts right now:

Quote:

Liam Neeson has revealed he once walked the streets with a cosh for days looking to kill a “black bastard” after someone close to him was raped many years ago.

The actor shared the previously undisclosed story with The Independent during a press junket for his new film, Cold Pursuit, admitting that he is now “ashamed” of his past “awful” behaviour.

Neeson, who has starred in films such as Taken and Non-Stop, recalled being told about the rape after he returned from a trip overseas.

“She handled the situation of the rape in the most extraordinary way,” Neeson said during the interview, which can be read in full here. “But my immediate reaction was ... did she know who it was? No. What colour were they? She said it was a black person.

“I went up and down areas with a cosh, hoping I’d be approached by somebody. I’m ashamed to say that, and I did it for maybe a week – hoping some [Neeson gestures air quotes with his fingers] ‘black bastard’ would come out of a pub and have a go at me about something, you know? So that I could kill him.”

Neeson said it took him about a week or a week and a half to process what had happened.

“It was horrible, horrible, when I think back, that I did that,” he said. “And I’ve never admitted that, and I’m saying it to a journalist. God forbid.”

He added: “It’s awful. But I did learn a lesson from it, when I eventually thought, ‘What the fuck are you doing’, you know?

“I understand that need for revenge, but it just leads to more revenge, to more killing and more killing.”

Interested to hear your thoughts as well Atlanta Man..

Heuristics - bear in mind that Liam Neeson is an actor promoting a film.

He was a good actor in his youth and a good proddy dog boxer in Northern Ireland in his youth.

He probably had 'thoughts'.
Tom Hardy used to do the UK chat show circuits talking about how crazy his life was .. he woke up in LA 'naked!', 'in bed!' with a 'big! black! man!' and.. 'there was a gun on the mattress between us..' and 'the safety was off!'.

Bi-sex-you-al.. sex-you-al.. inter-racial.. exthperiences.. (involving guns!)

Typical actor bullshit. Probably didn't happen in the way he described it.

When he did the press conferences for films like Warrior he was asked by cheeky Brit journalists to comment on these accounts of his life. He got in a snit and stormed out.

Because now he was a red blooded butch action star now! Don't you get it?
Dont hold him to the bs he said before when he was pretending to be someone else.

Actors say all kinds of shit to reinvent themselves for whatever role. This relates to an instance before in their life when they were 19 and they were similarly a time-travelling-cyborg trying to save the universe from destruction for a couple of months one summer... "so, you see, the role is a very personal one for me"

Its like David Hasselhoff's character Mitch suddenly revealing in Baywatch .. "Back when I was in the Seals.." What? Where did that come from? It became convenient for the storyline at that time. Up until that point Mitch was no ex- Seal..

Highly doubt that outside of Liam Neesons mind during the PR tour for his new movie he ever actually wandered round with a cosh looking to extract racial revenge.

I think the easily suggestible, living in La La Land nature of Jussie Smolletts actors mind has been overlooked in how anyone thought they could get away with this..

The only thing that gets reported about Neeson then retracted then reported again over the years is that he is a long term alcoholic and was a philandering non-husband during his marriage.

Horrible what happened to his wife though. Wouldn't wish that on anyone..

EDIT: considering the adults who tortured a disabled minor in Chicago for being a white person and therefore being a 'Trump fan' got away with no jail time, the police chief saying that they had 'just made bad choices' and the same week it went viral, Meryl Streep and a liberal charity lied about Trump mocking a disabled reporter and wilfully ignored the other attack ----- probably helped persuade Smollett he could get away with it.

EDIT 2: Neeson has my respect for being one of the first to break cover and admit in public to an otherwise fawning media that he thought the Phantom Menace, together with the whole prequel trilogy, was actually pretty shit and he regretted doing it. Ewan Mcgregor soon felt safe enough to follow suit.

[Transsimian]

[Atlanta Man]

Liam Neeson did not beat anyone-he had an emotional irrational response to justifiable anger-he did not act on his unreasonable urges and reflected on them. I have been highly pissed at a woman and began to resent women in general-I recognized this as unreasonable an modified my behavior and reflected on why it was stupid. Liam just should not have reflected on national television-Current day it is impossible to have an honest conversation with the public at large.

[CynicalContrarian]

Re: Liam Neeson's unexpected admission / obscure marketing ploy :



Spoiler alert.
It is not working out all that well for 'Cold Pursuit'...

[heavy]

+1 for talking about this.

I'm mid-30s, and I know you younger guys might gloss over this throwback story, but...

You know when you're in jr high and high school in small town midwest America and your life consists mostly of school, sports, and girls girls girls and masturbating constantly.

You know how the news wasn't all that important to you, save the really big stories?

I remember being in jr high and high school and this being a very real story, talked about with teachers and between students about why hate crime legislation was so important.

And the story turns out to be utter and complete bull-shit. So please read.

(02-18-2019 09:25 PM)Heuristics Wrote:  

We are living in strange times; for a country that is supposedly so racist, colonialist, xenophobic, anti-Semitic, etc these minority/disadvantaged groups have to manufacture incidents to prove their points. It's basically grievance culture on steroids. Leftist ideology demands victims and oppressors, so when there are no victims, they just make one up out of thin air. Classic Marxist tactics. This goes back more than a few years and pre-dates what we could call the SJW period/ hyper-PC times that started under Obama.

One clear hoax comes to mind that signified the times we were headed towards: the Matthew Shepard gay-hate crime murder hoax. While the younger generation is not aware of it, what happened is this gay guy in wyoming (university student) who had a history of heavy drug use (meth), was at a dive bar and some guys cranked on meth decided they were gonna rob him and in the heat of the moment decided to nearly beat him to death in the winter cold and leave him. This was used by the gay community to push gay rights, including Shepard's family, the family travels around the US lecturing students (in high schools) about gay rights, and so on. When the true context of the situation was revealed--ie it was not a hatecrime-- no one bothered to correct the record. The Shepard case was coincidentally key to passage of hatecrime legislation, and was used by the gays as a sort of Stonewall 2.0.

While I try to refrain from posting articles from the MSM here is all you need to know about the shepard case, per the Guardian (a bleeding heart leftist british news outlet):

Quote:

For 15 years, Matthew Shepard’s unspeakably brutal murder on a lonely prairie in Wyoming has been a byword for the very worst of American anti-gay bigotry and a rallying cry for a more tolerant, more inclusive society.

The 21-year-old University of Wyoming student was found trussed to a fence post, bleeding and half-frozen to death, in a rocky field on the outskirts of Laramie. He had been pistol-whipped so severely that his brain stem was crushed. His killers even removed his shoes, on the off-chance he broke free of his bonds and tried to run to safety.

Shepard’s death inspired the play The Laramie Project – later turned into a television movie – countless songs, a foundation devoted to his memory and a political lobbying effort that pressed for, and eventually obtained, a new federal hate crimes statute named after him.

All this creative energy has been based on an important central premise: that Shepard was targeted solely because of his sexual orientation. According to conventional wisdom, he met his killers by chance in a bar, told them he was gay and left with them when they appeared to respond to his advances. They started attacking him almost as soon as he climbed into their pickup.

It now appears, however, that the conventional wisdom may be wrong. A new book by investigative journalist Stephen Jimenez has challenged many of the central assumptions about Shepard’s murder and argues that anti-gay hatred was not the primary motivation for his killing, if it was a factor at all.

Instead, Jimenez makes a persuasive case – based on interviews with the murderers, their former girlfriends, friends of Shepard’s, and police investigators – that Shepard was already acquainted with his killers, Aaron McKinney and Russell Henderson. That acquaintance hardly casts Shepard in the best light.

All three of them, Jimenez argues, were involved in Laramie’s crystal meth subculture, as users and dealers. McKinney and Shepard may also have had a casual sexual relationship.

“Shepard’s sexual preference … certainly wasn’t the motive in the homicide,” Jimenez quot[ing] police investigator Ben Fritzen as saying. “What it came down to really is drugs and money.” A number of other sources close to the story and the protagonists confirmed much the same thing.

As Jimenez reconstructs it, McKinney was coming down from a week-long meth binge and desperate to cover his mounting debts. He believed, rightly or wrongly, that Shepard could lead him to a delivery of about $10,000 worth of meth coming in from Denver, which he intended to steal. McKinney’s plan was to beat the information out of Shepard, but the beating, fueled by severe drug-induced paranoia, ran quickly out of control.

Jimenez’s findings have sparked outrage from gay rights groups who see his book as an act of betrayal (Jimenez is himself gay). The Matthew Shepard Foundation has accused him of succumbing to “factual errors, rumors and innuendo” to build a sensationalist conspiracy theory and drag Shepard’s name through the mud.

Their outrage has been mirrored on the other side of the political spectrum by some social conservatives crowing that the “gay grievance industry” has taken a knocking.

There you have it, the modern gay rights movement is founded on a myth that has been discredited.

Another case, more recently, was George Zimmerman/ Trayvon Martin, which really was the jumpstart for all the Black Lives Matter stuff and put fuel on the fire for the identity politics movement. Zimmerman was mixed hispanic/ white, while Martin was black. What happened was Martin was roaming a gated community that his father lived in, in the middle of the rain. Zimmerman, part of the neighborhood watch--he had joined because of spate of recent breakins-- saw Martin. Zimmerman got out of his car, he approached Martin, and then next thing you know it, he's on the ground getting punched. How do we know this is true? Well, when the police talked to Zimmerman they saw cuts on him (lacerations) among other injuries. Zimmerman shot Martin fatally. What many left out was Martin was suspended from school at the time, and had a bit of a record. What I would like to point out about the incident and subsequent coverage: a)media edited a 911 call zimmerman made prior to getting beat up by Martin to make it sound like zimmerman was racist, finally they got called out on it when the whole call was released b)Media made every effort to describe Zimmerman as white even though he was a person of color, trying to paint a White on Black hatecrime, c) an effort to paint zimmerman as a blood thirsty killer and an effort to paint him in the least flattering light despite the fact that zimmerman was just trying to protect his community, while at the same time no examination of Martin and anything relevant to their confrontation.

[TheBowery]

Website with full list of hate hoaxes: http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/

[Cr33pin]

[911]

(02-18-2019 11:57 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  

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