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What's a *realistic* ideal approach:close ratio?
#26

What's a *realistic* ideal approach:close ratio?

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I am not approaching unless I feel strong IOIs-

This is a pretty important detail, if you are waiting until you get iois to approach then sure your ratios are going to be better than they would if you just talk to 100 random girls who are not evening noticing you are there.

I’m 42, I try to be in the habit of talking to people in general, and have a lot of one and two minute conversations and you meet some interesting people that way, if it happens to be an attractive girl, I try to number close or insta date after talking to her.

If she is laughing, seems to be enjoying talking to me, it’s a decent chance I may be able to get her out on a date, from the girls I can get out on dates, it’s about a50% chance I end up hanging her. I generally have to talk to a lot of girls to get one date, several dozen on average.

It’s been a while since I tracked how many approaches it took on average to get one bang, 2-4% sounds about right
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#27

What's a *realistic* ideal approach:close ratio?

Quote: (01-28-2019 05:26 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

I am not a big shit talker- by shit together I mean
1)In shape
2)money together/disposable income
3)nice watch, clean new shoes, fashion together
4)apartment in cool location
5)Multiple venues on lock
6)If you are in a car city late model vehicle/otherwise Uber money

Please note I am 43 so the bar is a little higher for me than someone 23. I am not approaching unless I feel strong IOIs- From 10 phone numbers I usually convert 1(to intercourse), when I am on a hot streak I can convert 3 or more out of 10-Hot streaks are god's gift to men, there is nothing like it-the feeling when you know you have got it going on, and she knows it too.

Yeah the spammy approach REALLY doesn't work if you'e a sophisticated man in his 40s with life experience. It's just not congruent. Leave that to guys in their 20s with higher tolerance of risk as well as nothing to lose/more time to burn. I got shit to do.
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#28

What's a *realistic* ideal approach:close ratio?

Quote: (01-28-2019 06:51 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

from the girls I can get out on dates, it’s about a 50% chance I end up hanging her

um...
(quietly dials law enforcement)
;-)
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#29

What's a *realistic* ideal approach:close ratio?

Quote: (01-28-2019 06:51 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

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I am not approaching unless I feel strong IOIs-

If she is laughing, seems to be enjoying talking to me, it’s a decent chance I may be able to get her out on a date, from the girls I can get out on dates, it’s about a50% chance I end up hanging her. I generally have to talk to a lot of girls to get one date, several dozen on average.

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#30

What's a *realistic* ideal approach:close ratio?

This probably depends a lot on the country you are in.

In Asia and Latin America you will get a lot of numbers easily. Girls are too polite to refuse you directly but the interaction will often go nowhere.

Whereas in Europe (and probably north America), girls won't give you their numbers that easily, but if they do you are already a good step in.
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#31

What's a *realistic* ideal approach:close ratio?

Quote: (02-02-2019 01:06 PM)semibaron Wrote:  

This probably depends a lot on the country you are in.

In Asia and Latin America you will get a lot of numbers easily. Girls are too polite to refuse you directly but the interaction will often go nowhere.

Whereas in Europe (and probably north America), girls won't give you their numbers that easily, but if they do you are already a good step in.

This. You leave thinkin you'll be seeing her again, but then it's crickets. To be sure, to some extent it happens everywhere, but the degree to which you'll encounter it in LatAm is really something...

Pussy ain't for pussies...
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#32

What's a *realistic* ideal approach:close ratio?

Quote: (02-02-2019 12:09 PM)Savonarola Wrote:  

Quote: (01-28-2019 06:51 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

from the girls I can get out on dates, it’s about a 50% chance I end up hanging her

um...
(quietly dials law enforcement)
;-)

That was my phone's autocorrect. It doesn't seem to recognize the word "bang"

But very funny guys
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What's a *realistic* ideal approach:close ratio?

Quote: (01-27-2019 09:08 AM)wellrockthecity Wrote:  

I guess you are talking day?
why would you care if you get received positively but dont’bang her?
A lot of girls are going to be nice just to get out of what could be an awkward situation for them and agree to go out with you but never actually do it.
Actually I noticed that sometimes the one that seems to eager are the leads that go nowhere. If the girl looks a bit untrusty but somehow intereted is game one.

What is the point of stopping 100 girls and getting 100 numbers if you don’t get laid with any of them?

Approach to lay its the only stats you should care about and if you are less than 5% - 5 girls banged out of 100 approaches (which is already low) it means there is something wrong with you/your style.

I would actually say you want less but better quality leads so you can get better feedback on what kind of girls really like you and you dont spend a lot of time talking to girls that will not bang you.

Regarding your second question - It depends on you and your standard. I usually only approach girls when im going to gym/doing my shit and I might only approach 4 girls that I only consider really good looking in a couple of hours. I know other guys that do spam approach and in the same time period chat to 15 girls. I guess it depends on what you are comfortable with.
A bit of advice is if you spam approach dont do it always in the same place as workers will notice and also you might bump into the same girls and will look like a weirdo.

As a spam approacher, I can confirm this. I was out approaching today, I busted out 15 approaches in my medium sized town.

A pair of teenaged girls saw me resting on the bench and kept looking back over at me and talking between themselves.

I am sure I must have approached them on Saturday, I think I went up to one of them and said "I like you're legs" but she didn't stop to talk and kept walking.

Day game is really hard not to come off as a sex offender in.
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