[Hydrae Cube]

I seem to get the feeling from this forum that many countries may be getting worse for us guys, as opposed to better. This is often due to Globalisation; cheap flights, social media etc.

For example Poland seems to be so overrun with tourists these days that many guys' exotic factor is similar to that of a common Pigeon.

Ukraine have bowed to the West, their women can now roam freely in the West, the girls have the world at the fingertips in the form of Instagram. The foreigner factor is steadily crashing there.

A clear example of somewhere that is somewhat protected is Russia; very few amount of sex tourists, been branded the enemy of the West, somewhat expensive.

Are there any other countries that you think that are getting better, if so what are the reasons?

[Adolf Hipster]

The first country abolishing internet will be the one where things will get better for men in general.

[scotian]

The internet and social media in particular make it easier to date and bang women.

[flyinghorse]

If you have to go to poor countries to get laid then your SMV is pretty fucking low.

The truth is that we should all be able to get laid with women in any western country.

[Hydrae Cube]

(12-11-2018 08:53 AM)scotian Wrote:  

The internet and social media in particular make it easier to date and bang women.

I don't know how Instagram makes it easier to date women. She has a plethora of male contacts who are messaging her all day, and she knows that as soon as you fuck up she has a long list of alternatives. Her options are much greater than the days before the internet

[Not-a-libtard]

(12-11-2018 09:31 AM)flyinghorse Wrote:  

If you have to go to poor countries to get laid then your SMV is pretty fucking low.

The truth is that we should all be able to get laid with women in any western country.

He didn't say Poor countries, Poland for example is not poor.

Quote:

The truth is that we should all be able to get laid with women in any western country.

It's not just about getting laid, it's about quality

[Buddydowrongright2]

(12-11-2018 11:16 AM)Hydrae Cube Wrote:  

(12-11-2018 08:53 AM)scotian Wrote:  

The internet and social media in particular make it easier to date and bang women.

I don't know how Instagram makes it easier to date women. She has a plethora of male contacts who are messaging her all day, and she knows that as soon as you fuck up she has a long list of alternatives. Her options are much greater than the days before the internet

It's a double-edged sword. Tinder and Instagram give men the widest and easiest access to the largest pool of potential mates in the history of life. But it also means the largest pool of competition.

Tinder and Instagram make it so easy for men to approach tons of women that approach anxiety, a biological feature of the human male, doesn't exist on those platforms. But by that same token women receive so much attention from men on those platforms they become hardened to it both online and in the real world, transforming an average American girl with a kind of fucked up face and frumpzilla belly who maybe has ONE kind of okay physical feature into an angel descended from the heavens to bless us lesser male-demons with her presence all ripe with the cockiness of a rock star and the jadedness of Kevin Spacey watching a newly hired mop boy clean the hallway out his prison cell.

A double-edged sword. Like nationalism. Brings nations to great heights; but inevitably may drag them into the undertow of history and destroy them. Tinder and Instagram are the nationalism of pussy.

[Cyclone]

Myanmar.

Seriously, I've got my eye on that place. Population of 60 million + will definitely turn into a hotspot within a decade.
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[J-Roc]

^ Plus maybe Laos and Cambodia? Still, if any places start getting good they'll be flooded with sexual refugees from the West almost instantly.

[Shimmy]

(12-11-2018 11:16 AM)Hydrae Cube Wrote:  

(12-11-2018 08:53 AM)scotian Wrote:  

The internet and social media in particular make it easier to date and bang women.

I don't know how Instagram makes it easier to date women. She has a plethora of male contacts who are messaging her all day, and she knows that as soon as you fuck up she has a long list of alternatives. Her options are much greater than the days before the internet

You are doing instagram wrong. I can use a bot to follow 600 women on instagram a day. How long would it take to day game 600 women? Not to mention I have a computer doing this and instead of spending time doing day game I spend that time working and making money.

This works because most guys don't know how to do it or use instagram properly.

[Shimmy]

Have you actually been to Myanmar? I went to over 30 countries last year and Myanmar was by far the worst place I've been.

[Polero]

Myanmar.

Seriously, I've got my eye on that place. Population of 60 million + will definitely turn into a hotspot within a decade.



I was in Myanmar in October this year and the chicks were the ugliest in the whole Asia. Not only that, the society is so conservative and weird that quick bangs are not really a thing of their culture. That country has a lot of really weird traditions. I'm not going back there in a very long time.

[Newguy101]

Well poles are eager to plunge toilets in the uk. Its a broke 1st world nation.
But hes correct. Western nations are the brothels of the UN.
We all can fly now. We all are getting westernized and being able to fly.
Quality and competition will get globalized.

[Tiger Man]

I think the future of "love tourism" may, regrettably or not, be a sort of domestic tourism. My recent experiences have caused me to consider that some quality talent is being overlooked and ignored in the flyover states and badlands of The West. Why fly to Thailand, when you can game girls in St. George, Utah? Of course, that would require a level of insight that I think a lot of "love tourists" (not guys on the forum) lack.

[Cyclone]

(12-12-2018 12:47 AM)Polero Wrote:  

Quote:

[i]Myanmar.

Seriously, I've got my eye on that place. Population of 60 million + will definitely turn into a hotspot within a decade.[/i]

I was in Myanmar in October this year and the chicks were the ugliest in the whole Asia. Not only that, the society is so conservative and weird that quick bangs are not really a thing of their culture. That country has a lot of really weird traditions. I'm not going back there in a very long time.

Topic said which countries are getting better
Myanmar has nowhere to go but up
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[Golden_State_of_Mind]

Sexual refugee lol. First time I've heard that. Hilarious

[Not-a-libtard]

I would say that many of the guys who say something like "Guys who travel for pussy can't get laid in their own country" are the ones with limited options in life; debt up to their eyeballs, car, house, fat wife. Or maybe just too scared to even leave their own country.

For example women here in Eastern Europe that make the top 50% would make up the top 5% in America. In addition to that it's significantly cheaper to date them and there's more of em

That said, I think if you are under 30 then you have plenty of options in the West, If you're 40 in Russia you can bang models for little outlay, in the West that would take a lot of money.

[RoadTo100]

Though I don't have firsthand knowledge of these places, based on forum rumors I would say:

* Uganda / Kenya / Ethiopia (East Africa)
* Ghana (West Africa)
* Kazakhstan / Uzbekistan / 2nd Tier Russia / Mongolia (Central Asia)

In general, countries that were "too undeveloped" to comfortably live in, but are becoming more tolerable would also be good picks. In this category I'd put:

* Myanmar (agree w/ Cyclone)
* Paraguay

Next category would be political situations that got resolved so that the place is visitable again:

(now)
* Colombia (since the murder rate began dropping in the 90s)
* Lebanon (since the civil war ended)
* Cuba
* Rwanda?

(possibly in the future)
* Venezuela
* Iran
* Democratic Republic of the Congo, any of the other African warzones
* North Korea

[aeroektar]

(12-11-2018 09:31 AM)flyinghorse Wrote:  

If you have to go to poor countries to get laid then your SMV is pretty fucking low.

The truth is that we should all be able to get laid with women in any western country.

That's like saying we should all be able to eat food. Sure I can, but maybe where I live 90% of the places to buy food are selling toxic chemical filled nutritionally void garbage.

I could wait in the long lines with the guys willing to over pay for the good food.

I could just eat a shit sandwich at the garbage establishment, and claim I'm eating good to make myself feel better. Did I mention that if I eat the wrong shit sandwich it can put me in jail or take a large chunk of my earnings for the next 18 years?

If I have the means, I could move to a city with good, plentiful, affordable food options.

Which one makes the most sense?

And that's just one aspect, we aren't even considering climate preferences, culture, safety, access to hobbies, investment and business opportunities, access to better/cheaper medical services, etc.

[Vladimir Poontang]

I think in many cases, if you can't get laid in a western country it may very well mean that there's nothing wrong with you at all. Sometimes it's everyone else who is wrong.

[scotian]

I don’t buy that, if you can’t get laid in the west then you probably have some type of weirdo personality trait, dress bad, poor hygiene or something. I know a couple of guys like this who are RVF members, they are decent guys but they are odd because of their parents were over protective and grew up sheltered. Just meeting these guys for a beer is awkward, there’s a lot of valuable information on this forum about self improvement but some guys just don’t get it.

[Buddydowrongright2]

(12-12-2018 08:11 AM)scotian Wrote:  

I don’t buy that, if you can’t get laid in the west then you probably have some type of weirdo personality trait, dress bad, poor hygiene or something. I know a couple of guys like this who are RVF members, they are decent guys but they are odd because of their parents were over protective and grew up sheltered. Just meeting these guys for a beer is awkward, there’s a lot of vakuable information on this forum about self improvement but some guys just don’t get it.

I can see it going both ways. I have a good friend who is 90% incel because he plays video games all day when he has free time from his stressful desk job. He also does aikido.

On the other hand I see jacked American dudes with sea monsters all the time here in Thailand and when I mentally calculate all the work those dudes must be doing just to bang that, from workouts to meal planning to tan schedules to grinding and making that sweet sweet paper, just to sloppy porno bang an angry feminist cunt who looks like Ursula from The Little Mermaid and is about as pleasant to be around... I don’t blame Western men for deciding consciously or subconsciously the only way to win the game they are in is to not play.

[scotian]

Fit, jacked good looking guys in the west aren’t dating angry feminist cunts, at least I don’t see it here in Canada which is apparently one of the worst places in the world for men. My fit, jack friends are banging attractive women, I see fit couples at the gym all of the time where both are very good looking. Do I sometimes see a guy with an uglier girl friend, yes sure but it’s not as common as it is potrayed to be here.

[BaatumMania]

My performance in Taipei (despite multiple Tinder accounts that had an excess of 300 matches) was pretty shit. Especially a lot of the THOTs here who only do ONS and don't want a reliable FWB relationship (and they flake or only want to meet me once every week / biweek. Hell some went cold on me for 4 weeks before asking to hangout again).

Taipei is only good for flags not actual casual relationships. Thing is it's not exactly overran with foreigners like South Korea so I wonder if it's a cultural thing or Taiwanese big city culture.


Pretty much the best time I've had in Asia so far was 2nd tier Korea that had almost no other white guys dicking around. It's not so much other guys being competition but rather the destructive wakes they leave behind: such as dating a local girl and then suddenly leaving (burning her) and then she probably tells every other women to never date a foreign guy. That's why any white guy who goes to a place like Itaewon can be at risk of being an incel (too many women there who are suspicious of foreign guys)

I will be spending 2 or so months in 2nd / 3rd tier Taiwan that has no foreigners so I will see if that helps me in getting higher SMV women or at least women who aren't constantly in flake mode.

Then in the Philippines I will be going to a city there that doesn't really have white dudes dicking around either.

[RoadTo100]

I think the phenomenon here is:

1.) RVF member is somewhat satisfied in the west (since that's all they know). Or at worst only slightly dissatisfied (again, since that's all they know)
2.) RVF member goes abroad and pulls better quality w/ equal/less effort than back home
3.) RVF member's standards rise, so that the quality level they expect is now what they experienced in #2
4.) RVF member returns home, cannot pull quality equal to step #2 without herculean effort (or at all)
5.) RVF member is now unhappy, blames the west

It's just like in stoicism, where the same external factors can lead to happiness or unhappiness based on what is in your own mind.

But given the forum's focus on *self improvement*, it's only natural that most members would not try to "be happy with what they've got", since that's directly at odds w/ the motivation to undergo self improvement.