Hello Men!
I just discovered, that there's this growing community of RedPill-aware men not only discussing Game, but also dealing with women in gerneral, a few weeks ago & I'm happy about that!
So I decided to share the main points of my current situation here as an example for discussion about marriage and family hoping to find ways to manage or correct my view on "responsability", "fairness" and "how to spin more plates", where I have problems with. I pretend to be aware of Game- and RedPill-Basics, but have difficulties in finding real solutions.
I met my wife at a time, where I had quite an alpha-status in my social-circle - surrounded by men who looked up to me and I had multiple girls spinning. My best and propably most important decision at that time was telling her to forget about exclusivity, what she accepted back then.
We had a real fun time together, while I was occasionally banging other girls.
Then - after I told her that we're gettin' a bit too close, she got quite upset, we got along again, but somehow she suddenly had a problem with other women. There, I know, I made the first and propably worst mistake in my life: I commited to exclusivity (bearing in mind it would be for a few weeks or so anyhow).
And - guess what - she got pregnant.
Until here it's propably a picture-perfect instructions-manual on "How to lock down a good catch".
We moved together, she got 4 kids in nearly shortest possible time, and she went from one time-limited exclusivity-contract to the next, knowing that I don't want that at all and finding out, that forced contracts are not really taken that serious by the forced party. I say "forced", because here it starts with my sticking points: I feel responsible for my family, and knowing, that me banging other foreign chicks causes a lot of emotional stress, which isn't the best for babies in the belly, I kept making concessions on and on, became alcoholic and a bit fatter, felt bad & changed that.
Stopped drinking, got in shape again, read a lot and suddenly discovered - "Game". Everything made perfect sense! I started goin' out again - clubs, bars, daygame and realized what an amazing challenge it is without the alpha-status in a social-circle.
The last contract had expired, and I have decided to never ever do that again. Of course she felt very bad watching her plan shattering in a thousand pieces. But you guys propably know how female behaviour can change ...
We discussed a lot, and she suddenly came up with this "Threesome"-Proposal. At least she wanted to join in. I'm not sure if it was another mistake to tell her about game and teach her basic techniques - it's shocking, that there's nearly nothing out there we could find about "Girl-on-Girl"-Game with specific advices for the woman (links always welcome, please correct me!).
Well, it didn't work out that well - took one girl home once, that I met alone another night. It was - most often - a fun time, but without great results.
Long story short, might sound like fun, but I'm constantly fighting with balancing responsabilities and going my own way, with her constantly trying to maximize insight and influence. I don't want to be full-on badass leaving the family (kids are up to 10 years now). The problem is, that she can logically convince me of everything, that "has to be done" - drivin' them to school, cause bus-connections are fucked up and I'm drivin anyway - fillin my freetime with all kinds of activity - and when I go out -> she wants to go with me.
It's very difficult to keep secrets - I'd like to be completely honest with everyone, but her finding out about other girls ... I guess there was this fear of my children having a bad life from the beginning, that kept me there. I also discover it as a real problem in Game to either lie or (would be way better!) to be honest with the girls, when they ask. There's this claim, that girls like married men, but I also obvserve some kind of "sisterhood-loyalty" or how we could call this - maybe "And your wife's ok with that??" is a shit-test ... married PUAs, please help me! I'd pay you for an effective coaching.
I consider daygame as quite suitable during lunchbreak - but I propably can't help making bigger steps, where I need more time on my own, like goin' to bigger cities for real cold-approach-experiences or spend the night with some girls ...
It's really difficult for me to find good solutions in this situation, on the one hand we get along very well - working on projects together, apart from other girls she's totally accepting my frame and I understand her fear of loosing me - on the other hand I really hate this constant unfree feeling with her penetrating curiosity and possible sabotage that much, that I sometimes seriously think about passing her on to some provider-orbiter ... but what about the kids? The money? Is it necessary? ...
Thanks for reading my post to who's still with me! I'd be very glad about useful tips and maybe experiences from men who have handeled similar situations propably!
Hopefully it can also help others with similar problems.
Keep the frame, guys!
I just discovered, that there's this growing community of RedPill-aware men not only discussing Game, but also dealing with women in gerneral, a few weeks ago & I'm happy about that!
So I decided to share the main points of my current situation here as an example for discussion about marriage and family hoping to find ways to manage or correct my view on "responsability", "fairness" and "how to spin more plates", where I have problems with. I pretend to be aware of Game- and RedPill-Basics, but have difficulties in finding real solutions.
I met my wife at a time, where I had quite an alpha-status in my social-circle - surrounded by men who looked up to me and I had multiple girls spinning. My best and propably most important decision at that time was telling her to forget about exclusivity, what she accepted back then.
We had a real fun time together, while I was occasionally banging other girls.
Then - after I told her that we're gettin' a bit too close, she got quite upset, we got along again, but somehow she suddenly had a problem with other women. There, I know, I made the first and propably worst mistake in my life: I commited to exclusivity (bearing in mind it would be for a few weeks or so anyhow).
And - guess what - she got pregnant.
Until here it's propably a picture-perfect instructions-manual on "How to lock down a good catch".
We moved together, she got 4 kids in nearly shortest possible time, and she went from one time-limited exclusivity-contract to the next, knowing that I don't want that at all and finding out, that forced contracts are not really taken that serious by the forced party. I say "forced", because here it starts with my sticking points: I feel responsible for my family, and knowing, that me banging other foreign chicks causes a lot of emotional stress, which isn't the best for babies in the belly, I kept making concessions on and on, became alcoholic and a bit fatter, felt bad & changed that.
Stopped drinking, got in shape again, read a lot and suddenly discovered - "Game". Everything made perfect sense! I started goin' out again - clubs, bars, daygame and realized what an amazing challenge it is without the alpha-status in a social-circle.
The last contract had expired, and I have decided to never ever do that again. Of course she felt very bad watching her plan shattering in a thousand pieces. But you guys propably know how female behaviour can change ...
We discussed a lot, and she suddenly came up with this "Threesome"-Proposal. At least she wanted to join in. I'm not sure if it was another mistake to tell her about game and teach her basic techniques - it's shocking, that there's nearly nothing out there we could find about "Girl-on-Girl"-Game with specific advices for the woman (links always welcome, please correct me!).
Well, it didn't work out that well - took one girl home once, that I met alone another night. It was - most often - a fun time, but without great results.
Long story short, might sound like fun, but I'm constantly fighting with balancing responsabilities and going my own way, with her constantly trying to maximize insight and influence. I don't want to be full-on badass leaving the family (kids are up to 10 years now). The problem is, that she can logically convince me of everything, that "has to be done" - drivin' them to school, cause bus-connections are fucked up and I'm drivin anyway - fillin my freetime with all kinds of activity - and when I go out -> she wants to go with me.
It's very difficult to keep secrets - I'd like to be completely honest with everyone, but her finding out about other girls ... I guess there was this fear of my children having a bad life from the beginning, that kept me there. I also discover it as a real problem in Game to either lie or (would be way better!) to be honest with the girls, when they ask. There's this claim, that girls like married men, but I also obvserve some kind of "sisterhood-loyalty" or how we could call this - maybe "And your wife's ok with that??" is a shit-test ... married PUAs, please help me! I'd pay you for an effective coaching.
I consider daygame as quite suitable during lunchbreak - but I propably can't help making bigger steps, where I need more time on my own, like goin' to bigger cities for real cold-approach-experiences or spend the night with some girls ...
It's really difficult for me to find good solutions in this situation, on the one hand we get along very well - working on projects together, apart from other girls she's totally accepting my frame and I understand her fear of loosing me - on the other hand I really hate this constant unfree feeling with her penetrating curiosity and possible sabotage that much, that I sometimes seriously think about passing her on to some provider-orbiter ... but what about the kids? The money? Is it necessary? ...
Thanks for reading my post to who's still with me! I'd be very glad about useful tips and maybe experiences from men who have handeled similar situations propably!
Hopefully it can also help others with similar problems.
Keep the frame, guys!
