[Not a Second Hander]

The ongoing discussion about the existence of God and original sin in the Sentinel Island Missionary thread got me thinking if any of you have experienced anything supernatural or logically & scientifically inexplicable.

Two personal incidents come to mind. One was back in middle school where I had an epileptic classmate who during one of his attacks starts screaming that some girl in a senior class is going to die. The girl tragically died in a car crash less than a week later.

Another one was in Uni when my mother and I had the exact same dream of her brother casually sitting on top of an Acacia tree completely naked screaming his lungs out. I was in Switzerland at the time and she was in Namibia for work. Nothing bad happened afterwards.

I would like to hear some experiences and hopefully someone with deeper knowledge regarding this subject could enlighten us about the how and why's.

[Sherifa]

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[kbell]

This reply is golden. Computer surgeon hacker. Hahahahahaha!

[Thot Leader]

(11-23-2018 08:27 PM)Sherifa Wrote:  

[spam]

Husband? First post ban.

Anyway back to the OP. As a kid I used to get deja vu all the bloody time. It stopped in my early 20s. Not sure this counts as supernatural, probably just a consequence of a developing brain. I've had lots and lots of incidences in my life of people knowing things intuitively that they had no way of knowing otherwise. I believe ESP is just high level intuition. Some people are gifted with off the charts intuition the way some are gifted with math, music, etc.

[Easy_C]

One that's more....weird, but I had one experience where I just had this inexplicably strong "feeling" about how a certain period of my life that I knew was coming up was going to play out. The feeling was so strong I felt it was certain and events happened EXACTLY the way that I felt they would.

[MidJack]

Unexplainable: One time I saw a woman ejaculate.

[The Grey]

(11-23-2018 11:00 PM)MidJack Wrote:  

Unexplainable: One time I saw a woman ejaculate.

Taking a wild swing here. Did this happen in Bangkok?

[Kona]

(11-23-2018 08:27 PM)Sherifa Wrote:  

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Maybe it was a dream, but I remember a post somewhere yesterday talking about stuff like this. Oh wow here it is :thread-71390...pid1891369

We got the po-lice on us. Beat it copper.

Aloha!

[spokepoker]

Looks like the new thread post count requirement is working.

[Nordwand]

(11-23-2018 09:41 PM)Thot Leader Wrote:  

(11-23-2018 08:27 PM)Sherifa Wrote:  

[spam]

Husband? First post ban.

Anyway back to the OP. As a kid I used to get deja vu all the bloody time. It stopped in my early 20s. Not sure this counts as supernatural, probably just a consequence of a developing brain. I've had lots and lots of incidences in my life of people knowing things intuitively that they had no way of knowing otherwise. I believe ESP is just high level intuition. Some people are gifted with off the charts intuition the way some are gifted with math, music, etc.

Some years back, I spoke to a member of the military, who said that you should never ignore the hairs on the back of your neck going up, to coin a phrase, as it could save your life when the chips are down. By way of example he referred to something which I've certainly experienced, namely watching a football match, where the opposition take possession deep in their own half and, at that point, you just know that they're going to score.

[Easy_C]

(11-23-2018 08:27 PM)Sherifa Wrote:  

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Sounds like somebody is asking for some fresh Pepes.

[debeguiled]

I got deja vu reading this thread.

Experiences that made you question the nature of existence/reality

[Wutang]

I haven't had these experiences myself, but my mother did relate an experience once about how when she was younger, her and her schoolgirl friends would sometimes play around with supernatural occult stuff in the way young girls do. She claimed that they caused one of their friends who was sitting in a chair to levitate off the ground. There was also another time they made a chopstick stand up straight on a table and start moving around on it's own.

I also have a good friend who is Filipino and whose father is a Protestant pastor that served both in the Philippines as well as currently in the US. My friend said that his father has performed exorcisms in the Philippines that resulted in both vomiting nails and frogs.

I'm agnostic about whether these things happened or not. I know when it comes to supernatural events, there's typically several factors that take away form their plausibility. Among them are certain people being fascinated with these sort of occurrences and therefore are primed to think they happened, people who straight up lie because of benefits they derive from people believing these events to be actual occurrences, people hallucinating or simply mis-seeing things, etc.

I will say that in the case of my mother that I don't think I've ever heard her tell a single lie in my entire life. She's also not prone to being overly fascinated with supernatural events either; I've never heard her discuss anything of this nature until she related the story written above to me which was in response to me mentioning that I out of curiosity had gone to see a talk given by a Catholic exorcist who was speaking about his experiences with exorcisms. I'm certain she isn't just blatantly lying to me so I think the only possibilities are either that she and her friends saw something that wasn't there or the event did actually happen as she described.

As for the case of my Filipino friend, I will say that I find him and his family to pretty trustworthy. They're all educated as well so they aren't a bunch of simple, ignorant Filipinos. That said, someone puking nails and frogs isn't exactly something that's outside of the natural realm.

[Aurini]

One of the first tests for the validity of a Marian Aparation is whether the witness was eager to talk about it or not.

It's not unlike war. Veterans who've seen combat are often uninterested in discussing the details with most people. Not because they're shy or secretive, but because the experiences are so far outside of the day-to-day that communicating them is very difficult, and the experience is likely to be misunderstood.

Parallel: imagine how a football player or coach would feel about Monday Morning Quarterbacks lecturing them on what they should have done on Sunday. They'd be annoyed and insulted, because at the time they made the best decision they could. Now, for the military people it's not so much that they'd be insulted on the ego level. "Hey, stop judging me, I did what I had to do!" That's not it. It's that the Monday Morning Quarterback would completely miss the point of the story. They'd try and relate it to a video game, or some idiotic standard of engagement ("Why didn't the cop just shoot the gun out of his hand?"). They'd completely miss the point, and the insult which derives from that is on a much deeper level.

I think it's the same with spiritual experiences. It's not that the story teller is worried about being ridiculed; it's more that they don't want to be misunderstood. Yes, of course it could have been a delusion of the senses ("There's more of gravy than of grave about you!") - but who's to say that a delusion of the senses isn't one way that the spiritual communicates with the material? They saw what they saw, it's a data point, a very hard to explain data point, and often they need to consider it at length on their own, or in conversation with somebody else who can understand; not your average idiot walking out of Walmart.

There's also the fact that it's usually a good idea to ignore the supernatural. Most of it is nasty little creatures desperate for your attention; they're not much different than marketers trying to distract you with sugary drinks and half-clothed women. Yes, we could analyze them - but nine times out of ten, your life will be better if you ignore the advert, and work towards your own goals. And as for the other ones... even then, doubt enters the picture, was it really what I thought it was? And the humble man doesn't want to misrepresent what they saw as a grand revelation that others must follow. They don't want to mislead.

[debeguiled]

My guides tell me that Mary chick is just jealous, and I want to shout it from the rooftops.

[Luther]

When I was in Phuket I used to explore the island on my motorbike on Sundays, my day off from the gym. One day I took a dirt road off the highway and ended up in a country yard. There was a boy playing in the driveway. I smile and wave at him as I’m turning my bike around to leave. He turns the other way and yells something towards the house... the door flies open and out comes a pit bull... coming right at me, snarling and barking... so I’m racing down the lane and the dog is biting at my legs as I kick at it and try not to wipe out.
Finally I get to the highway and he’s still on me... I pull out onto the highway without looking and I hear a loud horn go off right behind me... look over my shoulder and all I see is the huge gleaming metal grill of a bus... and I’m thinking ‘I hope he runs over that fucking dog’... so I pull off to the side of the highway and the bus speeds by and it’s over.
This is day in Thailand which was night at home in Canada. When I get back to my hotel I have several messages from my mom. She hadn’t heard from me in awhile and woke up from a bad dream with a sick feeling. She dreamed I’d been run over by a bus.