[tenderman100]

(10-11-2011 10:42 AM)Dash Global Wrote:  

In my opinion this is only applicable if you care about the chick and are looking for repeat service (I get repeat service without doing/caring/focusing on anything about the chick, so thats still not a great excuse).

Well, my opinion is different. I try to bang every babe I meet this way -- the ones who are repeats...and the ones who are first time-last time. (I will say I rarely have women sleep over; again, that's why I like married women).

(10-11-2011 10:42 AM)Dash Global Wrote:  

Funny story, I had this one chick 2 years ago get mad when I refused to go down on her after she gave me head. Threatened to leave and shit.

I was like im sorry but I dont go down females. And if you want to leave, leave. I got 10 females on speed dial that will be over within the hour lol (i was lying ovcouse but she didnt know that)

Personally, I enjoy eating them out. Frankly, it's what keeps those married women coming back for more...and not expecting much from me, other than getting off like they haven't for a long long time.

They contact me more than I contact them.

[KingofScotland]

(10-11-2011 03:30 AM)wolf Wrote:  

(10-07-2011 05:45 PM)KingofScotland Wrote:  

Getting a girl pregnant and me catching AIDS or an STD terrifies me yet I cannot help but fuck a girl bareback when it comes down to it. I tell myself every time that I will never, ever, again fuck a girl without a condom but it seems to happen wil alarming frequency. The next morning I'm instantly regretting it and will go out and spend £25 on the morning after pill if need be just to avoid that. I hate on myself so much for just not slipping that rubber on but at the time it seems so fucking right to be bareback in the girl even when I've got condoms to hand. Argh!

That's nice and everything but you can't rely on a chick to take the day after pill. It gets scarier when you buy the day after pill and she refuses to take it. What you going to do, punch her in the face and make her take it or put it in her omelet?

If I have to punch her in the face to make her takes it then yes. She's taking it one way or the other. I agree it's a bad strategy and I dont condone it but it's better than doing nothing and hoping for the best.

[Johnnyboy]

I had a boss once who knew this one girl had JUST gotten pregnant and fucked her without her knowing he knew (he had a vasectomy) just to see if she would try to claim it was his. she did, of course. He had some funny stories for a week there to tell me.

but yea anyway man, try getting off before you go on a date maybe that urge to reproduce will go away a little bit.

[Timoteo]

"...With that in mind, I pulled out and left a gelatinous load of DNA on her stomach."

This is pure poetry. The last time I blasted raw in a chick was sometime in the 90s. I was seeing a recently separated, but not yet divorced chick with a 3 year old, and she was on the pill. For every one before and since, I've put on a condom. I don't even think twice about it. My concern isn't so much getting a chick pregnant as it is catching something nasty. The odds of HIV are low, but there's other nastiness that I don't want to get burned with. I've actually had a couple along the way that tried to climb on my dick raw, and I had to stop THEM so I could strap on a jimmie. Deep down, I really want to know that feeling of squirting into wetness again, but there's just too much downside.

[Luckystar]

(10-07-2011 01:25 PM)Moma Wrote:  

With that in mind, I pulled out and left a gelatinous load of DNA on her stomach.

Mmm...poetry indeed...I think I'm gonna light up a cigarette....

I should think of this line when I get the urge to inject my seminal fluids inside her next...perhaps it will change the urge.

[Arcais]

Honestly, I try to blast in every girl that is a one night stand. Especially if she has a boyfriend. Call me irresponsible or whatever but if a girl or the government came after me for child support I would bounce the fuck out of the country. (or pay child support if I was rich)

[Luckystar]

God help me...I have an incredible urge to impregnate one of these Polish girls.

Let's hope these sexual exploits end without consequence.

[Batata]

I've never found pulling out to be difficult.

Pulling out is supposed to be as effective as condom use.

[Pusscrook]

(10-05-2011 07:35 PM)_DC_ Wrote:  

Ugh, I can't wait for the male birth control pill.

If I bust a nut in a girl (which is rare), I always fret about it for a few weeks afterward. Even if I'm quite sure the girls aren't the type looking to have kids, it still freaks me out.

The power is out of your hands (or out of your penis, so to speak) and out of your control.

If one doesn't have shit to lose, blasting in a bitch and getting her pregnant, is quite a trivial matter. Now , when you are getting your shit together, or have it together, that phone call, text, email, will shake you to the core.

If you've heard things like "put your hand behind your back" , or a lawyer saying things like "there's nothing more I can do for you in this case" you would instantly recall that hopeless fucking feeling your gut experienced. Your balls will instantly recoil into your abdomen when you recall the mental torture, the money, and the time. Put that all together and it still wouldn't be equal to that whore telling you " I'm pregnant, it's yours, and I want to keep it.

[Timoteo]

(11-06-2011 09:18 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

(10-05-2011 07:35 PM)_DC_ Wrote:  

Ugh, I can't wait for the male birth control pill.

If I bust a nut in a girl (which is rare), I always fret about it for a few weeks afterward. Even if I'm quite sure the girls aren't the type looking to have kids, it still freaks me out.

The power is out of your hands (or out of your penis, so to speak) and out of your control.

If one doesn't have shit to lose, blasting in a bitch and getting her pregnant, is quite a trivial matter. Now , when you are getting your shit together, or have it together, that phone call, text, email, will shake you to the core.

If you've heard things like "put your hand behind your back" , or a lawyer saying things like "there's nothing more I can do for you in this case" you would instantly recall that hopeless fucking feeling your gut experienced. Your balls will instantly recoil into your abdomen when you recall the mental torture, the money, and the time. Put that all together and it still wouldn't be equal to that whore telling you " I'm pregnant, it's yours, and I want to keep it.

...and that's exactly how it happens. They're not asking you what they should do. They're TELLING you it's yours, and I'm keeping it. They're not going to try to work out how much support you'll give, or when you'll see the kid. They'll run right to court so to have them dictate to you what you'll have to do. That's the danger of getting random chicks pregnant - it'll be a bitch that you can't stand, but you're bound to her for the next 20 years or so. She'll be buying shit for some other dude with the money you send for the kid.

I have a friend that's a doctor. He's a pediatrician, and was regularly smashing nurses and single moms that brought their kids to him for treatment. He regularly bangs raw, and HE should know better. He got some chick down in Texas that he messed with in trips down there pregnant, and he got that call. He was living in NY at the time, but now is practicing in Atlanta, where he met another chick and is now married. He doesn't have kids with her YET, but I'm sure at some point he will. So he's got a kid living out of state that he doesn't see as much as he would like (he does see him regularly though), but part of his income has to go to this other chick (which I'm SURE thrills his wife). His wife actually walked in on him fucking other bitches before they were married, but she married him anyway. He complicated his life immeasurably. Some time in the future, you know she'll burn him because she can't possibly trust him. Dont' give chicks the opening with which to fuck up your life.

[Pusscrook]

(11-06-2011 09:31 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

(11-06-2011 09:18 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

(10-05-2011 07:35 PM)_DC_ Wrote:  

Ugh, I can't wait for the male birth control pill.

If I bust a nut in a girl (which is rare), I always fret about it for a few weeks afterward. Even if I'm quite sure the girls aren't the type looking to have kids, it still freaks me out.

The power is out of your hands (or out of your penis, so to speak) and out of your control.

If one doesn't have shit to lose, blasting in a bitch and getting her pregnant, is quite a trivial matter. Now , when you are getting your shit together, or have it together, that phone call, text, email, will shake you to the core.

If you've heard things like "put your hand behind your back" , or a lawyer saying things like "there's nothing more I can do for you in this case" you would instantly recall that hopeless fucking feeling your gut experienced. Your balls will instantly recoil into your abdomen when you recall the mental torture, the money, and the time. Put that all together and it still wouldn't be equal to that whore telling you " I'm pregnant, it's yours, and I want to keep it.

...and that's exactly how it happens. They're not asking you what they should do. They're TELLING you it's yours, and I'm keeping it. They're not going to try to work out how much support you'll give, or when you'll see the kid. They'll run right to court so to have them dictate to you what you'll have to do. That's the danger of getting random chicks pregnant - it'll be a bitch that you can't stand, but you're bound to her for the next 20 years or so. She'll be buying shit for some other dude with the money you send for the kid.

Yea, that's it right there. It's a wonderful feeling to paste a chicks inners with god -like fluids, but as much man as you are, is as much of a boy you will become when that brazen bitch rings your phone incessantly.

You feel it in your gut that something is terribly off. It's like that call you dread from the doctor about your tests for some strange lesion you have on your dick. Worse yet ,it's a call from a whore you would more than likely discard as trash, but had a fling with.

All that begging you have to do, pleading like a wounded bitch. You can't even eat, you can't work out, your dick and balls will argue with your dumb ass everyday about the situation. Everyday she will put you thru changes.

You start intense negotiations to terminate, and just when you think you have her at that point, and you could rest a bit easy, you see her name on the caller ID...HEHEH ...ring ring, "it's me again, I don't feel good about what we talked about earlier, 'cause I spoke to my mom"...... Silence...., your fucking eyeballs stare at nothing, or maybe it's something, but you cant really identify it. You on the other hand, have no one to call, because you're a man, so who wants to hear your bitching? Many sleepless nights, so now you're the one calling like a bitch, repeating the cycle of negotiations. Then her hormones kick in, and she starts saying things like "I'm hungry can you go get us something to eat, I mean, me something to eat"? "Get me some ice, and celery sticks from that store you took me to one time".
You want to say fuck off, but you see, you have a great job lined up, and great raise in pay coming. Your university degree that has gotten you thus far, flashes before you, so you want to continue negotiations. Meanwhile, your little one grows in that womb, and you know time is short,so you go fetch ice and celery sticks , like a good dog.

By now you have lost 10 pounds easily, and you haven't brushed your fucking teeth in days. Every baby commercial makes you queezy, and now you are starting to think it's hopeless. You start planning for the inevitable. You're on the computer all night looking up child support laws, attorney fees, visitation. You even go as far as thinking to move money out and putting it in your sisters name, but that would require that you have to tell her why. Sisters are compassionate, and would side with the whore... """OOOH I am going to be an Auntie"....Fuck that, you gotta keep this shit hush-hush.

You start thinking of ways to run, to hide, to pray. You haven't prayed in 20 years, but you will fucking pray like a Jew at the wailing wall. You will pray. Hell, last time you checked , you were atheist, maybe not so much, you were probably confused.

Another ring comes in, she's bleeding. Could it be? Now, you have to play it just right. You could always say, "that's good bitch, bleed 'till you die, or you could act concerned and jet over there at warp speed. You drive, mouth feeling like a cotton mouth snake... radio on , but you cant make it out the song. You arrive, she's on the toilet. She's losing it, and you feel a wave of relief come over you . Now you are the man you once were...... Until next time.

This happened to a friend of mine......

[Insignia]

Honestly I would love to creampie a girl too but I am not a big fan of fucking without a condom cause I do not want any funky diseases and have a child at my age will just suck...

[Excelsior]

Damn, good posts fellas. This is some real heavy shit.

In these anecdotes, I am seeing the seeds of Western (mainly American) decline.

Our society has somehow managed to take a life affirming, natural act (sex/impregnation) and a god-given gift (our progeny) and turned them into gut-wrenching, soul-crushing burdens.

We've gotten to a point where we cheer for the destruction of our progeny (abortion) more than we do for their creation (which we actually dread now). We have then subsequently created a legal system that makes even the continued support of said progeny financial hell on Earth for any male, destructive enough to pretty much destroy his life (though still not as bad as marriage...yet).

At the same time, we've removed all alternatives to address this. One could suggest that "Well, you could avoid all of that anxiety if you just married the girl before reproducing!"
Sure, in theory you could...except you can't, because the marriage laws in this country are so hostile to men, and a woman armed with no-fault divorce can clean you out completely(and, in 50% of marriages, will do so, with her initiating 75% of the time) and sent you into financial destitution. Even when you try to do the "right" thing (follow the traditional family model), you're subject to the same soul-crushing experience.

We've taken away almost every incentive for a male to reproduce in this society in any context, in or out of wedlock. Also gone is any incentive for a guy to marry. This society has made our own children our enemies, and punished even those who wish to form matrimonial unions and bring children into them the "right" way by turning what is supposed to be positive spiritual union of two souls (marriage) into the equivalent of a Glock pointed directly at a guy's head.

This just isn't sustainable for any society. You cannot dread the act of reproduction and your own progeny and expect to persist as a society. Destruction, decline and/or very serious, substantive change is right around the corner for the US if this continues. Mark it.

In the meantime, I am going to plan to head somewhere where children are still a blessing. If I ever do tame my wild seed-sowing urges and decide to settle down and start a proper family (likely as I age), it will be outside of this country. Fortunately, I still think most of the world (absent of draconian, anti-male family laws we are so fond of in the US) hasn't lost sight of the healthier way.

[Pusscrook]

(11-06-2011 11:40 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Damn, good posts fellas. This is some real heavy shit.

In these anecdotes, I am seeing the seeds of Western (mainly American) decline.

Our society has somehow managed to take a life affirming, natural act (sex/impregnation) and a god-given gift (our progeny) and turned them into gut-wrenching, soul-crushing burdens.

We've gotten to a point where we cheer for the destruction of our progeny (abortion) more than we do for their creation (which we actually dread now). We have then subsequently created a legal system that makes even the continued support of said progeny financial hell on Earth for any male, destructive enough to pretty much destroy his life (though still not as bad as marriage...yet).

At the same time, we've removed all alternatives to address this. One could suggest that "Well, you could avoid all of that anxiety if you just married the girl before reproducing!"
Sure, in theory you could...except you can't, because the marriage laws in this country are so hostile to men, and a woman armed with no-fault divorce can clean you out completely(and, in 50% of marriages, will do so, with her initiating 75% of the time) and sent you into financial destitution. Even when you try to do the "right" thing (follow the traditional family model), you're subject to the same soul-crushing experience.

We've taken away almost every incentive for a male to reproduce in this society in any context, in or out of wedlock. Also gone is any incentive for a guy to marry. This society has made our own children our enemies, and punished even those who wish to form matrimonial unions and bring children into them the "right" way by turning what is supposed to be positive spiritual union of two souls (marriage) into the equivalent of a Glock pointed directly at a guy's head.

This just isn't sustainable for any society. You cannot dread the act of reproduction and your own progeny and expect to persist as a society. Destruction, decline and/or very serious, substantive change is right around the corner for the US if this continues. Mark it.

In the meantime, I am going to plan to head somewhere where children are still a blessing. If I ever do tame my wild seed-sowing urges and decide to settle down and start a proper family (likely as I age), it will be outside of this country. Fortunately, I still think most of the world (absent of draconian, anti-male family laws we are so fond of in the US) hasn't lost sight of the healthier way.

Is the thought of reproducing hardwired or is it governed by cultural behavior?

[Excelsior]

(11-07-2011 12:57 AM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Is the thought of reproducing hardwired or is it governed by cultural behavior?

Both.

It is a hardwired instinct. Reproductive imperative rests behind most of the concepts we talk about in gender dynamics/game (pre-selection, slut shaming, makeup, etc) and pretty much everything humans do in relation to the opposite sex. We're built to orient ourselves towards reproduction, and often do so subconsciously. This makes sense-without this, we'd fail to exist.

At the same time, our culture can influence how often we actually let these reproductive imperatives run their full course (at which point they result in a child). It can influence how many children we have and how we raise them. We can't eliminate the imperative or alter it much, but we can change its end results, for better or worse.

Ex: Pretty much every woman hears the ticking of the biological clock beginning in her late 20's and continuing throughout her 30's. She can't do anything about this.

Cultural imperative, however, can influence her eventual satisfaction of this natural reproductive demand. If she has been heavily exposed to a "Sex and the City" type of culture and emulates a similar dynamic (postponing commitment and only settling for Mr. Big) she may never reproduce. If she has been more heavily exposed to a more conservative culture, she might make more realistic mate choices earlier and be inclined to settle down a little younger, increasing her chances of reproductive success.

Culture shapes the immutable forces that guide us to some significant extent.

[Pusscrook]

(11-07-2011 01:17 AM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(11-07-2011 12:57 AM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Is the thought of reproducing hardwired or is it governed by cultural behavior?

Both.

It is a hardwired instinct. Reproductive imperative rests behind most of the concepts we talk about in gender dynamics/game (pre-selection, slut shaming, makeup, etc) and pretty much everything humans do in relation to the opposite sex. We're built to orient ourselves towards reproduction, and often do so subconsciously. This makes sense-without this, we'd fail to exist.

At the same time, our culture can influence how often we actually let these reproductive imperatives run their full course (at which point they result in a child). It can influence how many children we have and how we raise them. We can't eliminate the imperative or alter it much, but we can change its end results, for better or worse.

Ex: Pretty much every woman hears the ticking of the biological clock beginning in her late 20's and continuing throughout her 30's. She can't do anything about this.

Cultural imperative, however, can influence her eventual satisfaction of this natural reproductive demand. If she has been heavily exposed to a "Sex and the City" type of culture and emulates a similar dynamic (postponing commitment and only settling for Mr. Big) she may never reproduce. If she has been more heavily exposed to a more conservative culture, she might make more realistic mate choices earlier and be inclined to settle down a little younger, increasing her chances of reproductive success.

Culture shapes the immutable forces that guide us to some significant extent.

I can understand that humans have urges that may lead to reproduction, but is the biological urge to have sex, the same as that of reproduction? Cultural- induced desires may seem biological but by what mechanism are we measuring the instinct to reproduce? Is human sexuality more about pair bonding , or procreation?

[Excelsior]

(11-07-2011 01:31 AM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

I can understand that humans have urges that may lead to reproduction, but is the biological urge to have sex, the same as that of reproduction? Cultural- induced desires may seem biological but by what mechanism are we measuring the instinct to reproduce? Is human sexuality more about pair bonding , or procreation?

Procreation.

All of the traits/triggers/processes men and women use to select and keep mates (the things that compose the vast majority of what we consider "human sexuality") are tied firmly to the instinct to procreate well. We are trying to make ourselves appear as though we are better biological stock.

What each gender considers "hot" in the other is almost always linked directly to their suitability as procreative mates.

For men: We look for beauty. The things we consider beautiful(toned legs, firm breasts, good waist-to-hip ratio, long hair, youth, smooth skin, full lips, etc) are all linked directly to and correlate strongly with fertility.

Even if your end goal is not to produce a child with a woman and you're just a player, the entire process you use to select the women you wish to sleep with (choosing the most beautiful ones you can get to) is designed to ensure procreative success. Pair-bonding is secondary.

Similarly, the entire process you use to out-do other men for the privilege of getting to these most fertile women (peacocking, DHVing, AMOGing, isolating, etc) is designed to ensure your procreative success as well. Men are competitive when it comes to accessing these women-prior to modern times, relatively few of us got to reproduce (40% or so). Our genitalia are designed to scoop out other men's sperm.

Male competitiveness and possessiveness when it comes to women is directly linked to procreation, and those things are a big part of our expressed sexuality.

For women: They're looking for the best seed, period. They'll do whatever it takes to secure it.
This is obviously why they chase men who have status. It is the root of hypergamy.

The things they look for (pre-selection, height, social dominance, etc) are all tied to the traits that make for a good procreative mate.
A hot young girl may not be thinking about/planning on having a baby when she selects her mate at first, but the entire process she uses to select her mate and the entire process said mate uses to convince her to be with him is linked to procreation.
Of course, if said male proves himself worthy enough, she will be far more likely to let him knock her up. The right guy can bring that urge out in almost any girl, even the most career driven one. She can't do much about this.

All of the little things we do to express ourselves to one another as sexual beings (flirting, showing pre-selection, AMOGing, cockblocking, guys ogling "hot" chicks and fighting over/acting stupid around them, girls chasing status and becoming sugar babies, and practically any other behavior you can think of) are linked to our procreative capacity and its expression. Our sexuality is not designed to create simple "pair-bonds" for the sake of having them. It is designed to create reproductive success. The pair bonding comes after that fact has been established and two people with a good shot for said reproductive success (a man who has found the most fertile woman he can get and a woman who has found the best seed she can secure) have been brought together.

We are here to procreate. Human sexuality is about procreation. That is the natural instinct and driver of our sexuality. That is the root of it all-everything else is a secondary fabrication born of our own intellect (which often forces us to think outside of narrowly defined biological boxes).

[Pusscrook]

(11-07-2011 09:41 AM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(11-07-2011 01:31 AM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

I can understand that humans have urges that may lead to reproduction, but is the biological urge to have sex, the same as that of reproduction? Cultural- induced desires may seem biological but by what mechanism are we measuring the instinct to reproduce? Is human sexuality more about pair bonding , or procreation?

Procreation.

All of the traits/triggers/processes men and women use to select and keep mates (the things that compose the vast majority of what we consider "human sexuality") are tied firmly to the instinct to procreate well. We are trying to make ourselves appear as though we are better biological stock.

What each gender considers "hot" in the other is almost always linked directly to their suitability as procreative mates.

For men: We look for beauty. The things we consider beautiful(toned legs, firm breasts, good waist-to-hip ratio, long hair, youth, smooth skin, full lips, etc) are all linked directly to and correlate strongly with fertility.

Even if your end goal is not to produce a child with a woman and you're just a player, the entire process you use to select the women you wish to sleep with (choosing the most beautiful ones you can get to) is designed to ensure procreative success. Pair-bonding is secondary.

Similarly, the entire process you use to out-do other men for the privilege of getting to these most fertile women (peacocking, DHVing, AMOGing, isolating, etc) is designed to ensure your procreative success as well. Men are competitive when it comes to accessing these women-prior to modern times, relatively few of us got to reproduce (40% or so). Our genitalia are designed to scoop out other men's sperm.

Male competitiveness and possessiveness when it comes to women is directly linked to procreation, and those things are a big part of our expressed sexuality.

For women: They're looking for the best seed, period. They'll do whatever it takes to secure it.
This is obviously why they chase men who have status. It is the root of hypergamy.

The things they look for (pre-selection, height, social dominance, etc) are all tied to the traits that make for a good procreative mate.
A hot young girl may not be thinking about/planning on having a baby when she selects her mate at first, but the entire process she uses to select her mate and the entire process said mate uses to convince her to be with him is linked to procreation.
Of course, if said male proves himself worthy enough, she will be far more likely to let him knock her up. The right guy can bring that urge out in almost any girl, even the most career driven one. She can't do much about this.

All of the little things we do to express ourselves to one another as sexual beings (flirting, showing pre-selection, AMOGing, cockblocking, guys ogling "hot" chicks and fighting over/acting stupid around them, girls chasing status and becoming sugar babies, and practically any other behavior you can think of) are linked to our procreative capacity and its expression. Our sexuality is not designed to create simple "pair-bonds" for the sake of having them. It is designed to create reproductive success. The pair bonding comes after that fact has been established and two people with a good shot for said reproductive success (a man who has found the most fertile woman he can get and a woman who has found the best seed she can secure) have been brought together.

We are here to procreate. Human sexuality is about procreation. That is the natural instinct and driver of our sexuality. That is the root of it all-everything else is a secondary fabrication born of our own intellect (which often forces us to think outside of narrowly defined biological boxes).

Given your intellect, let me gather a few things so as to not trivialize the debate. Are you sure you're only 20?

[MiXX]

(11-06-2011 09:18 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Now , when you are getting your shit together, or have it together, that phone call, text, email, will shake you to the core.

If you've heard things like "put your hand behind your back" , or a lawyer saying things like "there's nothing more I can do for you in this case" you would instantly recall that hopeless fucking feeling your gut experienced. Your balls will instantly recoil into your abdomen when you recall the mental torture, the money, and the time. Put that all together and it still wouldn't be equal to that whore telling you " I'm pregnant, it's yours, and I want to keep it.

Pusscrook is not bullshitting fellas. I just felt this horrible feeling a few weeks ago. I can only imagine that's what it must feel like to be told by a court judge you are receiving death by lethal injection, and sentenced to death row.

No shit, that's how I felt.....I was even looking at the food channel to start picking my last meal, and planning out the next 9 final months of my life before D-Day.

True story:

I have an uncle who is now about 60 years old.

In his prime, at the age of 27-35, he was a very successful man in every way. He owned several apt. buildings in New York, which he rented out, a house in the Hamptons (no mortgage), and many vacation villas overseas. He was the first to ever have a CD player, a Laserdisc player, just about any new "iphone" that ever came out in the early 80's he had....he even had the first cell phones, that he would pay $2,000USD a month (in 1985) for about 100 minutes of call time! - He had lots of women he would fuck, he could pick and choose women, and I even use to hear him fucking from my bedroom at night when I was 10 years old.

Yes, my uncle was my idol. Money, women, and high tech-gadgets.....then it happened. He fell "in-love".

Fast Forward 2 years: Married, one kid, and living on the upper east side of Manhattan like the Jeffersons.

Fast Forward 20 years today 2011:

He is homeless (not kidding), 2 teen-age kids, on welfare, cannot find work, and my mother sends him money every now and then so he can eat. Now, his ex-wife took everything in the divorce - and I mean everything. he is now a charity case for teh family...and I look at him, and he looks deep in my eyes....and I can see it clearly in his eyes; he cries and wishes to be like me again....the way he was. He sees himself 30 years ago, and I see him, and knwo where he went wrong. he married, and impregnated without thinking of consequences: Child support, alimony, lies, deception and a ton of other things this whore did to my uncle with no mercy.

So, now, it's my turn. Today, I have it all, just like my uncle did....and much more as I travel the world more than he ever did in his prime. Fuuuckk no I'm not getting one of these whores pregnant.

I'm seriously thinking of getting snipped, but docs won't do it because I do not have kids.

** for those young cats here who do not know what a laserdisc is, or have ever seen one, here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laserdisc


** The picture below shows what a 1982 "ipod" was like. Yeah, this is what my uncle had.....now he does not even have a pot to piss in working whatever grease monkey job he can find or construction site he can beg for work to so much as pick-up the trash for the workers for a few bucks per day.

Mixx

[Excelsior]

(11-07-2011 11:52 AM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Given your intellect, let me gather a few things so as to not trivialize the debate. Are you sure you're only 20?

Unfortunately, yes. I can't wait to get the heck out of college.

[Excelsior]

(11-07-2011 12:30 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Pusscrook is not bullshitting fellas. I just felt this horrible feeling a few weeks ago. I can only imagine that's what it must feel like to be told by a court judge you are receiving death by lethal injection, and sentenced to death row.

No shit, that's how I felt.....I was even looking at the food channel to start picking my last meal, and planning out the next 9 final months of my life before D-Day.

....

So, now, it's my turn. Today, I have it all, just like my uncle did....and much more as I travel the world more than he ever did in his prime. Fuuuckk no I'm not getting one of these whores pregnant.

I'm seriously thinking of getting snipped, but docs won't do it because I do not have kids.

Quick question, MiXX.

You're right about all the risks, but were those same risks really at play with your Colombian situation?

Had she been a Miami girl I'd completely understand, but do Colombianas (and their legal system) even have the power to send you into the type of destitution you're dreading (and that your uncle was hit with)?

Like other guys in your thread about this topic said, family law there actually favors the guys, child support is very cheap by western standards and unless a Colombiana is rich/connected (which your girl wasn't, from what you said), she can't exactly scheme to get into the US and use that legal system to destroy you. Chances are the best she'd be able to do (and even this is only likely for a upper class/connected, highly educated Colombiana, of which there aren't that many) would be to force you to pay Colombian child support via a trip to the embassy and a talk with a local lawyer, and again, that's nothing compared to the American system. It can't ruin you.

So what threat would a Colombian kid have posed? A couple hundred dollars a month? Even if she had went ahead with the pregnancy, I'm somehow doubting that it really could have done as much to you there as it would on American soil. Their legal system is more favorable to guys, costs them a lot less and she'd have no power to hunt you down.

What was the big deal?

[Moma]

(11-07-2011 11:52 AM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Given your intellect, let me gather a few things so as to not trivialize the debate. Are you sure you're only 20?

The breh is a genius and he hasn't even travelled yet. When he starts to apply experience to this academia he has, it will be scary.

Plus he's built so he can knock a muthafcuka out flat who won't listen to rhyme or reason.

*bursts into alpha tears*

[Moma]

(11-07-2011 12:30 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(11-06-2011 09:18 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Now , when you are getting your shit together, or have it together, that phone call, text, email, will shake you to the core.

If you've heard things like "put your hand behind your back" , or a lawyer saying things like "there's nothing more I can do for you in this case" you would instantly recall that hopeless fucking feeling your gut experienced. Your balls will instantly recoil into your abdomen when you recall the mental torture, the money, and the time. Put that all together and it still wouldn't be equal to that whore telling you " I'm pregnant, it's yours, and I want to keep it.

Pusscrook is not bullshitting fellas. I just felt this horrible feeling a few weeks ago. I can only imagine that's what it must feel like to be told by a court judge you are receiving death by lethal injection, and sentenced to death row.

No shit, that's how I felt.....I was even looking at the food channel to start picking my last meal, and planning out the next 9 final months of my life before D-Day.

True story:

I have an uncle who is now about 60 years old.

In his prime, at the age of 27-35, he was a very successful man in every way. He owned several apt. buildings in New York, which he rented out, a house in the Hamptons (no mortgage), and many vacation villas overseas. He was the first to ever have a CD player, a Laserdisc player, just about any new "iphone" that ever came out in the early 80's he had....he even had the first cell phones, that he would pay $2,000USD a month (in 1985) for about 100 minutes of call time! - He had lots of women he would fuck, he could pick and choose women, and I even use to hear him fucking from my bedroom at night when I was 10 years old.

Yes, my uncle was my idol. Money, women, and high tech-gadgets.....then it happened. He fell "in-love".

Fast Forward 2 years: Married, one kid, and living on the upper east side of Manhattan like the Jeffersons.

Fast Forward 20 years today 2011:

He is homeless (not kidding), 2 teen-age kids, on welfare, cannot find work, and my mother sends him money every now and then so he can eat. Now, his ex-wife took everything in the divorce - and I mean everything. he is now a charity case for teh family...and I look at him, and he looks deep in my eyes....and I can see it clearly in his eyes; he cries and wishes to be like me again....the way he was. He sees himself 30 years ago, and I see him, and knwo where he went wrong. he married, and impregnated without thinking of consequences: Child support, alimony, lies, deception and a ton of other things this whore did to my uncle with no mercy.

So, now, it's my turn. Today, I have it all, just like my uncle did....and much more as I travel the world more than he ever did in his prime. Fuuuckk no I'm not getting one of these whores pregnant.

I'm seriously thinking of getting snipped, but docs won't do it because I do not have kids.

** for those young cats here who do not know what a laserdisc is, or have ever seen one, here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laserdisc


** The picture below shows what a 1982 "ipod" was like. Yeah, this is what my uncle had.....now he does not even have a pot to piss in working whatever grease monkey job he can find or construction site he can beg for work to so much as pick-up the trash for the workers for a few bucks per day.

Mixx

Mixx, unless you get a vasectomy, you CANNOT control whether you get a lizard pregnant or not. It's best you keep banging those third world lizards and in that case you can always flee.
But your will means nothing in these cases. Condoms can break. The only thing that will guarantee non pregnancy is abstinence.

You might want to do as Athlone recommends and try and bang decent lizards. However, that will severely cut into your ONS because you really need to do a background check on these lizards and it is still a dice roll.

So continue to count your lucky blessings. Your will doesn't play any part in this game.

[Pusscrook]

(11-07-2011 11:52 AM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

(11-07-2011 09:41 AM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(11-07-2011 01:31 AM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

I can understand that humans have urges that may lead to reproduction, but is the biological urge to have sex, the same as that of reproduction? Cultural- induced desires may seem biological but by what mechanism are we measuring the instinct to reproduce? Is human sexuality more about pair bonding , or procreation?

Procreation.

All of the traits/triggers/processes men and women use to select and keep mates (the things that compose the vast majority of what we consider "human sexuality") are tied firmly to the instinct to procreate well. We are trying to make ourselves appear as though we are better biological stock.

Question: Can we assume that primitive man did not know how babies were formed and therefore, sex was not an idea based upon natural selection, but the act itself?

What each gender considers "hot" in the other is almost always linked directly to their suitability as procreative mates.

Question: So, if the idea is that sexuality is directly linked to the purpose of procreation, why are millions of males having sex with random women who are not suitable? Is that part of natural selection, or is just sexual selection based on male instincts to have sex?

For men: We look for beauty. The things we consider beautiful(toned legs, firm breasts, good waist-to-hip ratio, long hair, youth, smooth skin, full lips, etc) are all linked directly to and correlate strongly with fertility.

Question:Are all men programed to look for beauty, in order to have sex( as per the things you described as beautiful) because it correlates strongly with fertility? Does a particular culture dictate what beauty is? #2 .. Would a male still have sex with a woman who does not have physical attributes that society says correlate to fertility?

Even if your end goal is not to produce a child with a woman and you're just a player, the entire process you use to select the women you wish to sleep with (choosing the most beautiful ones you can get to) is designed to ensure procreative success. Pair-bonding is secondary.

Question: Is there a difference between "intentional design" to ensure procreation, and the intention of the participants? If the intent is to just have sex, based upon the desired effects that sex produces, are we overriding the system to procreate? What is the purpose of an orgasm?

Similarly, the entire process you use to out-do other men for the privilege of getting to these most fertile women (peacocking, DHVing, AMOGing, isolating, etc) is designed to ensure your procreative success as well. Men are competitive when it comes to accessing these women-prior to modern times, relatively few of us got to reproduce (40% or so). Our genitalia are designed to scoop out other men's sperm.

Comment/question:"Prior to modern times" could mean anything, but let's assume the evolutionary mechanisms that exist today , existed prior to modern times, is it possible that culturally induced desires, mimic those that are biological then, and now?

Male competitiveness and possessiveness when it comes to women is directly linked to procreation, and those things are a big part of our expressed sexuality.

For women: They're looking for the best seed, period. They'll do whatever it takes to secure it.
This is obviously why they chase men who have status. It is the root of hypergamy.

The things they look for (pre-selection, height, social dominance, etc) are all tied to the traits that make for a good procreative mate.
A hot young girl may not be thinking about/planning on having a baby when she selects her mate at first, but the entire process she uses to select her mate and the entire process said mate uses to convince her to be with him is linked to procreation.
Of course, if said male proves himself worthy enough, she will be far more likely to let him knock her up. The right guy can bring that urge out in almost any girl, even the most career driven one. She can't do much about this.

All of the little things we do to express ourselves to one another as sexual beings (flirting, showing pre-selection, AMOGing, cockblocking, guys ogling "hot" chicks and fighting over/acting stupid around them, girls chasing status and becoming sugar babies, and practically any other behavior you can think of) are linked to our procreative capacity and its expression. Our sexuality is not designed to create simple "pair-bonds" for the sake of having them. It is designed to create reproductive success. The pair bonding comes after that fact has been established and two people with a good shot for said reproductive success (a man who has found the most fertile woman he can get and a woman who has found the best seed she can secure) have been brought together.

Question: Is it possible that based upon the understanding of hormonal and chemical processes, we can argue that sexual selection is not wholly designed for the purpose of procreation, (though that may be the outcome)?

We are here to procreate. Human sexuality is about procreation. That is the natural instinct and driver of our sexuality. That is the root of it all-everything else is a secondary fabrication born of our own intellect (which often forces us to think outside of narrowly defined biological boxes).

Question: If one is determined to be gay or lesbian, is this a fabrication of one's own intellect? What if one chooses to abstain, or is asexual? [b]Are these mutations, gene modifications, or choice?

Given your intellect, let me gather a few things so as to not trivialize the debate. Are you sure you're only 20?

[Moma]

I think being gay or lesbian is a combo of genes and choice. Some cats out there are just extra freaky and just feeling like plugging butts in addition.

Some cats are just genetically driven to fancy the same gender. Even from when i was young, sliding in a lizard was always the sweetest gift to man.
Who would want to slide in something masculine??!
It has to be genetic. Why would one choose that?