[infowarrior1]

(11-22-2018 06:21 PM)Aurini Wrote:  

I really hope his corpse doesn't infect them with a pathogen.

If they know about cremation which is very good at preventing disease from spreading.

[rudebwoy]

(11-22-2018 01:30 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

This isn't about limits, morals, or religion. This is about minding your own business and not "helping" people who didn't ask for help.

This what enrages people about SJWs and Christian missionaries. They stick their nose into other people's affairs trying to "correct" them and "put them right." They want to push a specific set of beliefs on everyone, arrogantly believing only *they* know the correct ways.

If people want help, they'll ask. As a country we seem to have forgotten this. We have become a nation of busybodies, bothering people in other countries and telling adults in our own country what they can and can't read, say, think, or believe.

What we saw here is group of people essentially saying "MYOB!" with actions instead of words.

I thought this was about religion! Wasn't he was trying to convert them.

Christian missionaries have been doing this shit for years.

We get these Watchtower idiots ringing my doorbell all the time, I tell them I am of a different faith and yet they still try to preach to me.

Dumb and Dumber.

[Syberpunk]

(11-22-2018 10:41 AM)Sherman Wrote:  

Make the Andaman Islands Great Again!

But the Anadaman Islands were never great!

[Sherman]

Wow! My admiration for these guys just grows by the hour:

T. N. Pandit (1967–1991)
In 1967, anthropologist T. N. Pandit, in a partnership with the Indian government, left gifts on the beaches of North Sentinel Island in hopes that friendly contact could be established with them. However, the Sentinelese did not accept the gifts.[9] Pandit made many more attempts over the years, all of them futile, and ultimately ceased his efforts to make contact in 1991.[9]

National Geographic (1974)
In early 1974, a National Geographic film crew went to the island with a team of anthropologists to film a documentary, Man in Search of Man. They were accompanied by armed police officers with sufficient protection. When the motorboat broke through the barrier reefs, the locals emerged from the jungle and discharged arrows at the boat. They landed at a safe-point on the coast and gifts in the forms of a miniature plastic car, some coconuts, a live pig, a doll, and aluminum cookware were left in the sand.[26]

The Sentinelese followed up by launching another round of arrows, one of which struck the documentary director in his thigh. The man who wounded the director withdrew to the shade of a tree and laughed proudly while others speared and then buried the pig and the doll.They left afterward, taking with them the coconuts and aluminium cookware.[12]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentinelese

These guys on national security are way more focused than anything the West has to offer. No 9/11 or bribed border guards in the Andaman Islands.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(11-22-2018 09:32 PM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  

(11-22-2018 01:30 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(11-22-2018 06:44 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

(11-22-2018 06:38 AM)Meliorare93 Wrote:  

Thoughts? Another idiot less on the planet! That's what I think...

Good that his faith helped him, oh wait, no, never mind

People like you are the reason why the West finds itself in the sorry state it is right now. No limits, no culture, no morals, no religion, no future - only a misguided ideology that demonstratively has already managed to ruin the lives of 100 of millions of people.

Going there to proselytize wasn't the greatest idea for sure but I don't think this deserves to be judged with Schadenfreude.

This isn't about limits, morals, or religion. This is about minding your own business and not "helping" people who didn't ask for help.

This what enrages people about SJWs and Christian missionaries. They stick their nose into other people's affairs trying to "correct" them and "put them right." They want to push a specific set of beliefs on everyone, arrogantly believing only *they* know the correct ways.

If people want help, they'll ask. As a country we seem to have forgotten this. We have become a nation of busybodies, bothering people in other countries and telling adults in our own country what they can and can't read, say, think, or believe.

What we saw here is group of people essentially saying "MYOB!" with actions instead of words.

Here is the thing. Jesus commanded Christians to make disciples of all nations.

''Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit''

Matthew 28:19

To put a stop to that. One would have to delete the New Testament from existence.

Therefore its impossible to be Christian and not evangelize.

As for "helping'' people that need no help. That's a valid point.

Yeah, I know about this. It's called proselytizing.

I think it's best done by setting an example. You don't have to be preachy to preach, in other words.

The words "make disciples" don't necessarily mean "talk to everyone." That's a good way to alienate people. Actions are more effective.

For example, where I live Catholic Charities runs a bunch of soup kitchens and homeless shelters. They don't push Jesus on the community per se (as far as I know) but the fact that religious folks do this sends a message. Also, the literature is there on the premises if you want to dig deeper and the clergy are around if you have questions.

Going from house-to-house or visiting countries to preach might make the people doing this feel good and it might convert some folks. But it doesn't seem too effective because it doesn't take into account human nature. Most people like don't strangers coming up to them with unsolicited advice.

[ChicagoFire]

HAHA

It's like that Simpsons episode:

But what if we pick the wrong god, we'll just be making the real god madder and madder!

(11-22-2018 04:20 PM)YoungBlade Wrote:  

A missionary once visited the Inuit, and one warrior came to him for answers.
The Inuit asked, "So if I do not accept your message, I go to hell?"
"Unfortunately, yes," answered the missionary.
"But if you hadn't told me, what would happen?" the warrior asked.
"Well I don't know," said the missionary. "It's a matter of debate, but probably not."
The warrior sighed, then asked, "Then why did you tell me?"

[wi30]

(11-22-2018 03:17 PM)Quizzical_2 Wrote:  

Christianity isn't just some "stupid religion"; it's the truth. The Good News ought to be proclaimed to all who can hear. Regardless of how much it offends your precious libertarian sensibilities.

Can you prove it?

Don't mind me; I'm just over here holding by breath.

[infowarrior1]

(11-22-2018 10:24 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(11-22-2018 09:32 PM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  

(11-22-2018 01:30 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(11-22-2018 06:44 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

(11-22-2018 06:38 AM)Meliorare93 Wrote:  

Thoughts? Another idiot less on the planet! That's what I think...

Good that his faith helped him, oh wait, no, never mind

People like you are the reason why the West finds itself in the sorry state it is right now. No limits, no culture, no morals, no religion, no future - only a misguided ideology that demonstratively has already managed to ruin the lives of 100 of millions of people.

Going there to proselytize wasn't the greatest idea for sure but I don't think this deserves to be judged with Schadenfreude.

This isn't about limits, morals, or religion. This is about minding your own business and not "helping" people who didn't ask for help.

This what enrages people about SJWs and Christian missionaries. They stick their nose into other people's affairs trying to "correct" them and "put them right." They want to push a specific set of beliefs on everyone, arrogantly believing only *they* know the correct ways.

If people want help, they'll ask. As a country we seem to have forgotten this. We have become a nation of busybodies, bothering people in other countries and telling adults in our own country what they can and can't read, say, think, or believe.

What we saw here is group of people essentially saying "MYOB!" with actions instead of words.

Here is the thing. Jesus commanded Christians to make disciples of all nations.

''Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit''

Matthew 28:19

To put a stop to that. One would have to delete the New Testament from existence.

Therefore its impossible to be Christian and not evangelize.

As for "helping'' people that need no help. That's a valid point.

Yeah, I know about this. It's called proselytizing.

I think it's best done by setting an example. You don't have to be preachy to preach, in other words.

The words "make disciples" don't necessarily mean "talk to everyone." That's a good way to alienate people. Actions are more effective.

For example, where I live Catholic Charities runs a bunch of soup kitchens and homeless shelters. They don't push Jesus on the community per se (as far as I know) but the fact that religious folks do this sends a message. Also, the literature is there on the premises if you want to dig deeper and the clergy are around if you have questions.

Going from house-to-house or visiting countries to preach might make the people doing this feel good and it might convert some folks. But it doesn't seem too effective because it doesn't take into account human nature. Most people like don't strangers coming up to them with unsolicited advice.

''I think it's best done by setting an example. You don't have to be preachy to preach, in other words.''

The acts of the apostles prove otherwise. There was plenty of preaching and action as well.

But I do agree that preaching should occur in appropriate times and places.

Public places like the Synagogues and temples or the Agora where ideas are discussed and debated.

And in households of those who may be interested and select groups of Christians.

[infowarrior1]

(11-22-2018 11:24 PM)wi30 Wrote:  

(11-22-2018 03:17 PM)Quizzical_2 Wrote:  

Christianity isn't just some "stupid religion"; it's the truth. The Good News ought to be proclaimed to all who can hear. Regardless of how much it offends your precious libertarian sensibilities.

Can you prove it?

Don't mind me; I'm just over here holding by breath.

If you want to sit through 3 hours of debate:

Reliability of the New Testament:

Series on the Resurrection:

[Quizzical_2]

Prove Christianity to be true? I think there's an abundance of historical evidence that Jesus rose from the dead and vindicated his status as God's Son.

[Trumpian]

I won't hate on Chau as he had convictions and more balls than most men, but question for the Bible thumpers:

If the Sentinelese's eternal lives were dependent on Chau or some missionary converting them, what about the islanders that lived there the prior 60,000 years? Same question for other uncontacted peoples. I guess they were shit out of luck.

[wi30]

(11-22-2018 11:34 PM)Quizzical_2 Wrote:  

Prove Christianity to be true? I think there's an abundance of historical evidence that Jesus rose from the dead and vindicated his status as God's Son.

Great! Let's see it.

[infowarrior1]

(11-22-2018 11:46 PM)Trumpian Wrote:  

I won't hate on Chau as he had convictions and more balls than most men, but question for the Bible thumpers:

If the Sentinelese's eternal lives were dependent on Chau or some missionary converting them, what about the islanders that lived there the prior 60,000 years? Same question for other uncontacted peoples. I guess they were shit out of luck.

Acts 17:27-31

Quote:

''27God intended that they would seek Him and perhaps reach out for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us. 28‘For in Him we live and move and have our being.’a As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are His offspring.’b 29Therefore, being offspring of God, we should not think that the Divine Being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by man’s skill and imagination.

30Although God overlooked the ignorance of earlier times, He now commands all men everywhere to repent. 31For He has set a day when He will judge the world with justice by the Man He has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by raising Him from the dead.”

So those who are long dead. God will be more lenient.

[Sherman]

When you think about it, Chau was a pretty nasty character. First, he knew he was breaking the law. Then he disguised his trip as a fishing trip to get around the authorities, i.e. the Navy and Coastguard. Very dishonest and using deception. Then he paid a bunch of fishermen $325, an enormous amount of money to poor people, knowing that he would get them into trouble. He apparently doesn't care about the diseases he could be giving to remote people and believes he is above the law. He self righteously talks about his death, but doesn't think about the poor people that will risk their lives to retrieve his stinking corpse. Then he actually believes he is a good person. I don't see any difference between Chau and a deluded SJW virtue signalling on Facebook. He disproves his own philosophy as being wicked by his actions which evidence low ethics and low morality. He had nothing to teach to anyone. Good riddance to trash.

[torridon747]

Sucks he died. Did it to himself though. Risked killing off an entire culture because of hubris. If he was truely committed to introducing christ he would have worked with a linguist and anthropoligist to get those people messages. He also influenced poor fishermen with western wealth to commit crimes in his stead.

@Trumpian

Depends on which brand of Christianity you're talking about. Some same purgatory some say you're fucked and you go to hell

[Trumpian]

(11-23-2018 12:30 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  

(11-22-2018 11:46 PM)Trumpian Wrote:  

I won't hate on Chau as he had convictions and more balls than most men, but question for the Bible thumpers:

If the Sentinelese's eternal lives were dependent on Chau or some missionary converting them, what about the islanders that lived there the prior 60,000 years? Same question for other uncontacted peoples. I guess they were shit out of luck.

Acts 17:27-31

Quote:

''27God intended that they would seek Him and perhaps reach out for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us. 28‘For in Him we live and move and have our being.’a As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are His offspring.’b 29Therefore, being offspring of God, we should not think that the Divine Being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by man’s skill and imagination.

30Although God overlooked the ignorance of earlier times, He now commands all men everywhere to repent. 31For He has set a day when He will judge the world with justice by the Man He has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by raising Him from the dead.”

So those who are long dead. God will be more lenient.

Can you break down the process a bit for me though?

Do these people to heaven, and then just say sorry for the cannibalism and cold blooded murder?

Why do would they get a pass when people who've never done such things go to hell simply because they logically don't believe in something there's no evidence of?

[Meliorare93]

It amazes me how much brainwashed Christians there are here... they could use some religious red pilling imho

[captndonk]

You might get unlucky with IQ 65 creatures. The narrative that this tribe is somehow withstanding the evils of immigration is a projection of our ideas. These are just very primitive people that's it.

[wi30]

(11-23-2018 01:56 AM)captndonk Wrote:  

You might get unlucky with IQ 65 creatures. The narrative that this tribe is somehow withstanding the evils of immigration is a projection of our ideas. These are just very primitive people that's it.

Have you accurately evaluated their 'IQ' score?

[Trumpian]

@captndonk

Meh, IQ is overrated. Germans have one of the highest average high IQs on the planet yet you guys got involved in 2 wars with the odds terribly stacked against you, and now you're cucking yourself into oblivion via mass immigration.

I say this as a great admirer of the German people. But if you all had the common sense of the "dumb" Seninlese savages your country might be better off.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(11-22-2018 11:46 PM)Trumpian Wrote:  

I won't hate on Chau as he had convictions and more balls than most men, but question for the Bible thumpers:

If the Sentinelese's eternal lives were dependent on Chau or some missionary converting them, what about the islanders that lived there the prior 60,000 years? Same question for other uncontacted peoples. I guess they were shit out of luck.

Yes, they were out of luck. But Chau and the bible-thumpers are all lucky enough to be born into the religion that just happens to be the *right* one. I mean, like, what are the odds of that?

[Leonard D Neubache]

I think the whole situation with this tribe is sort a hilarious double standard on politically correct thinking re: race.

Honestly, we're treating this far flung tribe the same way we treat endangered animals. We're one step away from sending in special forces to tranq a few then staple tags to their ears and strap tracking collars around their necks to monitor their migratory patterns and keep a track of their wellbeing.

On the other hand we regard them as human beings, of course, and we regard them as having sovereignty over their little island. But what if a shitlord nation rigged up a smoke and mirrors show capable of convincing this tribe that their emissary was a god? What if the tribesmen became the thralls of that nation and pledged their lives and loyalty to that ambassador? What if they agreed to house ICBMs for that nation? Would we continue to treat them like animals in a reserve or would we suddenly decide that they should be treated like any other nation, with international obligations and consequences for regional meddling?

Are all men created equal, or are some men regarded as animals until the accord to treat them like animals is broken?

[BadBoyGamer]

Makes me think about the book: A Brave New World by Aldous Huxley.

[Trumpian]

(11-22-2018 03:12 PM)Quizzical_2 Wrote:  

Christianity did not spread by the sword, at least not until the emperor Constantine. In fact, Christianity was usually violently oppressed by the Roman emperor.

Good one haha.

Constantine and his successors violently suppressed the honerable paganism and stoic philosophy that the empire was built on.

Also crusades, northern crusades, the wars of the Reformation,etc.

More bloodshed in Christ's name than Mohammed.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Why do people keep spending millions and risking their lives to get to know the Sentinelese when they could just send a $100 drone instead?