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Beirut 2018 data sheet
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Beirut 2018 data sheet

Background
Based on the positive reviews on this forum I wanted to check Beirut out. Since the plane tickets were inexpensive I pulled the trigger for a 2 week stay. As for gaming I am a newbie. Zero lays and approx 5 approaches a day, but I learned a lot about myself: I met two girls that turned my life up and down gaming wise making me wonder why gaming is necessary at all - because I had to put in zero effort at all and they were all over me - however, at the end logistics fucked up everything. I am grateful that I met these two girls since they fuelled my belief in moving forward with gaming and traveling. Overall, I dont share the greatness of this place as other older Beirut data sheets on this forum.

Please note this data sheet has been written by a guy with little experience in gaming - an experienced gamer might report something different. But I feel I wanted to contribute anyway.

The city
Beirut is located in Lebanon with a population of about 2 million people (incl the outer areas). The architecture is very distinct since most buildings are approx 10 stories high and have a somewhat small square ground area, so when flying above the city it looks like small sticks evenly scattered. During winter time, due to the geography and the mountain range (Mount Lebanon), you should be able to ski in the mountains during the day and go party in Beirut during the evening in shorts and a t-shirt. In the summer it reaches more than +30 degC and maybe drops to some 25 degC during the night. The Western World believes that Lebanon and even Beirut is a very dangerous place (as of Oct 2018):

[Image: 34124050vp.jpg]

When asking locals about the situation the answers point 50/50 in both directions. But one thing for sure: Everybody told me to avoid making photos in the shia muslim area (red on map) and def dont make any photos if you come close to the Palestinian refugee camps marked with the Palestinian flag in the map. Remember these areas are only a few kilometers/miles away from the designer shopping malls and the luxury yacht marina.

I was in almost all areas of town, also the Armenian district Burj Hammoud and large areas of the southern Shia muslim parts. The only places I havent been are the Palestinian refugee camps since locals told me not to go. Please note that these camps are not fenced or gated - everybody can basically walk in and out and there are no guards.

Lebanon is special since it is approx 60% muslims and 40% other religions, Christians being the biggest fraction of the latter. They seem to live peacefully with each other. From looking at people I cannot tell whether they are Muslim or Christian. Below a map that shows the religious areas of Beirut.

[Image: Beirut-Relgions-Divides-Map.jpg]

Even though you have these religious areas, I as a tourist could not tell the difference when looking around at the buildings or the people.: You will have muslims working in the Christian area and vice versa. After having traveled extensively in Beirut, all its suburbs and up the coast, I can conclude (see pic):

[Image: 34123676cy.jpg]
The left hamra circle is without a legend: It should read "Shopping/restaurants"
There is an imaginary line going horizontally across Beirut (see map). North of the line is where all the action takes place and where all the tourists are. This is also where 95% of all hotels, restaurants, clubs etc are located. There are basically no white tourists hanging out south of that line. You will see most western tourists in the Beirut souks and in the downtown area which is located adjecent to the souk.

As for tourist attractions, museums and sightseeings I found Beirut boring and you need to head out of town to for example the Jeita Grotto. So if you go to Beirut focus solely on daygame and nightgame above the horizontal line.

South of the line, there are 2 very big shopping malls (see map) with several rooftop restaurants. In the downtown area you have the Beirut souk which basically is also a mall with designer brand shops, Starbucks, restaurants etc ... and even though it is called a souk you cannot buy spices or produce here. These 3 malls would be interesting for daygaming.

As for people you will see very few veiled girls/women above the imaginary line: You will probably see more in Paris, London, Berlin etc. On average there are very few white tourists. If you step away from the main attractions you will also see Asian girls (most from PH i guess), African girls (mostly Ethiopian I was told) working as domestic workers for local families. These girls seem to be +30 years old.

Accommodation
In general Lebanon is expensive for accomodation (compared to Asia). A hostel will start at 15 USD (backpacker style), however most are at 20-25 USD. A decent hotel room starts at 60 USD and upwards. You will get something nice for 100 USD even with a rooftop pool if you search on booking.com.

I stayed in the Hamra area (which felt a bit dead during evenings since it is more of a shopping/restaurant area) but I would suggest to stay in the pub/bar area which is Mar Mikhail or Gemmayze: From there it is only a few minutes to the nightlife action. In that part of the town it was my impression that you will not find many fancy hotels (they are located more towards the Western part of town=Hamra+Downtown).

I have no experience with Airbnb but I think that would be a good option in the Mar Mikhail area.

Currency
Lebanon has a double currency system where USD is accepted everywhere alongside the Lebanese Pounds. You can pay everywhere even with 100 USD bills. Typically, if you pay in USD you will get Lebanese Pounds back. You can also pay with credit/debit cards. As a rule of thumb, 3000 LL is 2 USD.

Food
"Street" food will be something like 4000 LL, A decent meal in a local restaurant will be 12000 LL and for restaurants in the downtown area etc it is something like 20000 LL and upwards. A long drink is often 12000LL and upwards. A softdrink ist 1500 LL in a street food shop, in a restaurant 3000-5000 LL.

Logistics
There is no organized public transport system. You have taxis, shared taxis, Ubers and buses. The taxis are the most expensive ones (a trip from the airport is anywhere between 15 and 35 USD). Shared taxis is a system where you ride with other people in a passenger car or minibus but I never figured out how. The price for a ride anywhere in town is as low as 1000 LL = 0,6 USD. Taking a larger bus to one of the major cities such as Byblos or Tripoli is also very cheap ... something like 3000 LL = 2 USD.

However, I found Beirut to be very compact: You can walk to most places so somehow the city does not feel very big (if you stay above the line). Traffic becomes much more managable in the evening since most people went home from work: Getting a taxi across town will be fast with no cues.

A huge number of roads/streets in Beirut are one-way streets/roads.

Language
Besides Arabic, many Lebanese people speak English and French. I noticed that they enjoy to mix both Arabic and English when speaking to each other. For a traveler it is therefore very easy to navigate and communicate with locals.

Girls and game
In general I felt the girls were more closed and reserved compared to Europe. Almost impossible to get eye contact on the street - something which is possible in Europe. There is no rock star or exotic effect whatsoever. As for style, 80% of all men below 30 years old had a full beard - rarely you see a guy clean shaven. Older men are often clean shaven. I never figured out if a beard is the way to go. In restaurants I would often see sets consisting of 1 guy and lets say 3-4 girls - where the guy gave the impression of being an orbiter amongst the girls. Very often you would also see sets of 2-3 girls alone out most likely smoking the water pipe. At no time I saw people kissing in public - not even in the clubs. As with everywhere else - people are addicted to their phones. Only on rare occasions the girls were unbangable - so basically they take care of themselves: Once you step down in Europe you are confronted with the more trashy european girls who dont take care of themselves - a big contrast. A short thread connected to my experiences: thread-70625.html

Tinder
There are many hot girls on Tinder in Beirut but I did not have any luck. I met a western guy in Beirut who got lucky with Tinder so I quickly installed but only had shitty selfie pictures - that might explain my low success.

Nightgame
As for nightgame it really boils down to 2 places:

1. The Mar Mikhail area circled on the map as "bar/pub". In this area (on Armenia Street) you will have some 10-15 bars/pubs with a packed crowd right on the sidewalk. On weekdays this is probably the only place where you have a chance of night gaming.

2. All the clubs in the circled area such as Iris, Skybar, AHM, The Gärten. They are located in a somewhat industrial area and the cover fee is pretty high - I guess 20 USD and upwards. The most annoying part is that you cannot enter as a male alone. You need at least 1 female. I was at AHM with some girls and due to that rule it was something like 75-80% girls in that club, all very hot. No kissing, no real dancing, no real boy-girl interaction, def no grinding. An experienced gamer could do some real damage in these clubs ... if he can get in. The downside however, I was told, that most people are drugged in the clubs and apparantly drugs are at their peak at the moment. Almost all people smoke, but drink less alcohol so you will not see puking and drunk people everywhere like in Europe.

Daygame
As for daygame as previously discussed: The 3 malls, the marina where they have a lot of tourists and nice restaurants overviewing the luxury yachts and maybe the university campus's if you dont look too old (there are guards at the entrances but they will slip you in).

Misc
I have never in my life seen to many brand new Range Rover cars. Nobody is using the indicators nor the mirrors. Only vehicles with equal or more than 4 wheels respect the traffic lights. Motorcycles and scooters ignore red lights totally and drive against the direction of one way streets. 2-wheeled vehicles also pass red lights. Most car drivers text while driving and even scooters/motorcycles text while driving - but for some reason I never saw an accident.

Most of the toursists in Lebanon are Lebanese people who are visiting their home country: There is a large population of Lebanese people living elsewhere in the World. So you will see very few "Westeners".

It was my impression that there is a large gap between the poor and rich in Beirut (compared to Europe): The rich have a big urge to show their wealth openly through fancy cars, fashion and designer bags: In Europe many wealthy people go low key.

There is now a rather large Syrian population in Beirut. I cannot distinguish between Lebanese and Syrians but the locals told me they can distinguish right away from their Arabian dialect and in many cases also their facial structure. So this my be ideal for those who want their Syrian flag.

Final thoughts
Based on my experiences Beirut is not a place I would go back to as my 1st choice. It is a rough place for a beginner due to the lack of IOIs during the day. For the more experienced, you need to establish a social circle right away (which I tried with 2 local girls - they got my # and I never got theirs - and nothing happened). If you just come as a solo male it will be uphill for a 1 week trip since you cannot get into the clubs yourself (unless you befriended some females who want to go). Of course, if you have tight game all places in the World will be a playground/candy store.

What I liked:
I like the hedonistic ambience in Beirut: People drink and smoke and dont give a fuck like in Europe: They enjoy life to the fullest. I never felt unsafe: Unlike many places in Europe you don't have large groups of young men hanging out (loitering) looking for trouble. At least above the red line you can walk everywhere during the night - and in the downtown area you will even have armed military personel at mini checkpoints (often with Humvees). I saw almost no beggars (except for some young women with their baby in Hamra St) and did not have problems with kids running after me wanting money or something else.

What I didn't like:
In general, locals were often not very friendly and open - I had higher expectations (in my book, so far nothing beats the openness and friendliness of Americans). They often show subtle arrogance - for instance on the sidewalks they will often not share the space with you and you have to step on the road or crawl along the wall - unheard of in Europe. Often, locals would talk bad about their own people and government. I guess it is all very mixed.

idane
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Beirut 2018 data sheet

Thanks for the sheet idane. I was curious about your experience as i dont have a big sample size of foreigner insight. I know many people visited this summer and fall who msged me (unfortunately had been away for monthes and couldnt meet anyone) so im curious about their experiences as well.


Quote: (11-18-2018 02:02 PM)idane Wrote:  

Background
Based on the positive reviews on this forum I wanted to check Beirut out. Since the plane tickets were inexpensive I pulled the trigger for a 2 week stay. As for gaming I am a newbie. Zero lays and approx 5 approaches a day, but I learned a lot about myself: I met two girls that turned my life up and down gaming wise making me wonder why gaming is necessary at all - because I had to put in zero effort at all and they were all over me - however, at the end logistics fucked up everything. I am grateful that I met these two girls since they fuelled my belief in moving forward with gaming and traveling. Overall, I dont share the greatness of this place as other older Beirut data sheets on this forum.

Ive always maintained ROI in this place is low. Except when living here and looking for a high quality LTR because you can find the right balance between modern and traditional values in the girls still (although i suspect this will rapidly change with upcoming generations)

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The city
Beirut is located in Lebanon with a population of about 2 million people (incl the outer areas). The architecture is very distinct since most buildings are approx 10 stories high and have a somewhat small square ground area, so when flying above the city it looks like small sticks evenly scattered. During winter time, due to the geography and the mountain range (Mount Lebanon), you should be able to ski in the mountains during the day and go party in Beirut during the evening in shorts and a t-shirt. In the summer it reaches more than +30 degC and maybe drops to some 25 degC during the night. The Western World believes that Lebanon and even Beirut is a very dangerous place (as of Oct 2018):

[Image: 34124050vp.jpg]

When asking locals about the situation the answers point 50/50 in both directions. But one thing for sure: Everybody told me to avoid making photos in the shia muslim area (red on map) and def dont make any photos if you come close to the Palestinian refugee camps marked with the Palestinian flag in the map. Remember these areas are only a few kilometers/miles away from the designer shopping malls and the luxury yacht marina.

I was in almost all areas of town, also the Armenian district Burj Hammoud and large areas of the southern Shia muslim parts. The only places I havent been are the Palestinian refugee camps since locals told me not to go. Please note that these camps are not fenced or gated - everybody can basically walk in and out and there are no guards.

Lebanon is special since it is approx 60% muslims and 40% other religions, Christians being the biggest fraction of the latter. They seem to live peacefully with each other. From looking at people I cannot tell whether they are Muslim or Christian. Below a map that shows the religious areas of Beirut.

[Image: Beirut-Relgions-Divides-Map.jpg]

Even though you have these religious areas, I as a tourist could not tell the difference when looking around at the buildings or the people.: You will have muslims working in the Christian area and vice versa. After having traveled extensively in Beirut, all its suburbs and up the coast, I can conclude (see pic):

[Image: 34123676cy.jpg]
The left hamra circle is without a legend: It should read "Shopping/restaurants"
There is an imaginary line going horizontally across Beirut (see map). North of the line is where all the action takes place and where all the tourists are. This is also where 95% of all hotels, restaurants, clubs etc are located. There are basically no white tourists hanging out south of that line. You will see most western tourists in the Beirut souks and in the downtown area which is located adjecent to the souk.

As for tourist attractions, museums and sightseeings I found Beirut boring and you need to head out of town to for example the Jeita Grotto. So if you go to Beirut focus solely on daygame and nightgame above the horizontal line.

South of the line, there are 2 very big shopping malls (see map) with several rooftop restaurants. In the downtown area you have the Beirut souk which basically is also a mall with designer brand shops, Starbucks, restaurants etc ... and even though it is called a souk you cannot buy spices or produce here. These 3 malls would be interesting for daygaming.

As for people you will see very few veiled girls/women above the imaginary line: You will probably see more in Paris, London, Berlin etc. On average there are very few white tourists. If you step away from the main attractions you will also see Asian girls (most from PH i guess), African girls (mostly Ethiopian I was told) working as domestic workers for local families. These girls seem to be +30 years old.

Accommodation
In general Lebanon is expensive for accomodation (compared to Asia). A hostel will start at 15 USD (backpacker style), however most are at 20-25 USD. A decent hotel room starts at 60 USD and upwards. You will get something nice for 100 USD even with a rooftop pool if you search on booking.com.

I stayed in the Hamra area (which felt a bit dead during evenings since it is more of a shopping/restaurant area) but I would suggest to stay in the pub/bar area which is Mar Mikhail or Gemmayze: From there it is only a few minutes to the nightlife action. In that part of the town it was my impression that you will not find many fancy hotels (they are located more towards the Western part of town=Hamra+Downtown).

I have no experience with Airbnb but I think that would be a good option in the Mar Mikhail area.

Currency
Lebanon has a double currency system where USD is accepted everywhere alongside the Lebanese Pounds. You can pay everywhere even with 100 USD bills. Typically, if you pay in USD you will get Lebanese Pounds back. You can also pay with credit/debit cards. As a rule of thumb, 3000 LL is 2 USD.

Food
"Street" food will be something like 4000 LL, A decent meal in a local restaurant will be 12000 LL and for restaurants in the downtown area etc it is something like 20000 LL and upwards. A long drink is often 12000LL and upwards. A softdrink ist 1500 LL in a street food shop, in a restaurant 3000-5000 LL.

Agreed on everything pretty much. Hamra had its day but the party moved on. It still has the universities though thats why foreigners always end up staying there but i always recommend Mar Mkhayel more for nightlife

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Logistics
There is no organized public transport system. You have taxis, shared taxis, Ubers and buses. The taxis are the most expensive ones (a trip from the airport is anywhere between 15 and 35 USD). Shared taxis is a system where you ride with other people in a passenger car or minibus but I never figured out how. The price for a ride anywhere in town is as low as 1000 LL = 0,6 USD. Taking a larger bus to one of the major cities such as Byblos or Tripoli is also very cheap ... something like 3000 LL = 2 USD.

Shred taxi is called "service". You basically stop a taxi and say "service to hamra" for example. If he agrees (will take a few tries), you go in and he will stop for other passngers too and see if theyre on the way and take them with you. The service will drop you off in Hamra in the general area and not in your specific location (unless its on his road anyway). Its basically like a bus in a way. They tend to overcharge foreigners sometimes.


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Language
Besides Arabic, many Lebanese people speak English and French. I noticed that they enjoy to mix both Arabic and English when speaking to each other. For a traveler it is therefore very easy to navigate and communicate with locals.

Yup. Its not done on purpose btw. We actually dont use many arabic words and use the western equivalent instead.

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Girls and game
In general I felt the girls were more closed and reserved compared to Europe. Almost impossible to get eye contact on the street - something which is possible in Europe. There is no rock star or exotic effect whatsoever. As for style, 80% of all men below 30 years old had a full beard - rarely you see a guy clean shaven. Older men are often clean shaven.

Every girl ive ever met said i look better with beard (even all fsu ones). I think thats true for a lot of other lebanese guys.

As for ioi, theyre rare in the daytime but in nightlife i actually get more iois here than in most european places. Ive never done much daygame here as in street daygame. I think the general mood is that people socialize in nightlife with new people.

An exception is when youre in a cafe or the shisha places u mentioned in the daytime, then the girls are also receptive.

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I never figured out if a beard is the way to go. In restaurants I would often see sets consisting of 1 guy and lets say 3-4 girls - where the guy gave the impression of being an orbiter amongst the girls. Very often you would also see sets of 2-3 girls alone out most likely smoking the water pipe.

Thats basically social circle stuff.

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At no time I saw people kissing in public - not even in the clubs. As with everywhere else - people are addicted to their phones. Only on rare occasions the girls were unbangable - so basically they take care of themselves: Once you step down in Europe you are confronted with the more trashy european girls who dont take care of themselves - a big contrast. A short thread connected to my experiences: thread-70625.html

Its very rare for new acquaintances to be making out. even most ONS i had here i dont think we made out before pulling. Usually its couples but yes its much rarer than other places.

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Tinder
There are many hot girls on Tinder in Beirut but I did not have any luck. I met a western guy in Beirut who got lucky with Tinder so I quickly installed but only had shitty selfie pictures - that might explain my low success.

Didnt like tinder here but as always theres always 1 or 2 good ones so its worth a shot for a visitor.

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Nightgame
As for nightgame it really boils down to 2 places:

1. The Mar Mikhail area circled on the map as "bar/pub". In this area (on Armenia Street) you will have some 10-15 bars/pubs with a packed crowd right on the sidewalk. On weekdays this is probably the only place where you have a chance of night gaming.

2. All the clubs in the circled area such as Iris, Skybar, AHM, The Gärten. They are located in a somewhat industrial area and the cover fee is pretty high - I guess 20 USD and upwards. The most annoying part is that you cannot enter as a male alone. You need at least 1 female. I was at AHM with some girls and due to that rule it was something like 75-80% girls in that club, all very hot. No kissing, no real dancing, no real boy-girl interaction, def no grinding. An experienced gamer could do some real damage in these clubs ... if he can get in. The downside however, I was told, that most people are drugged in the clubs and apparantly drugs are at their peak at the moment. Almost all people smoke, but drink less alcohol so you will not see puking and drunk people everywhere like in Europe.

The only clubs that have cover and drugs are the after hours clubs (AHM and garten). Skybar Iris Caprice etc... dont have cover charge and not a big drug scene. Even in the after hours clubs its much less than in european after hours electro clubs.

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Misc
I have never in my life seen to many brand new Range Rover cars. Nobody is using the indicators nor the mirrors. Only vehicles with equal or more than 4 wheels respect the traffic lights. Motorcycles and scooters ignore red lights totally and drive against the direction of one way streets. 2-wheeled vehicles also pass red lights. Most car drivers text while driving and even scooters/motorcycles text while driving - but for some reason I never saw an accident.

Most of the toursists in Lebanon are Lebanese people who are visiting their home country: There is a large population of Lebanese people living elsewhere in the World. So you will see very few "Westeners".

It was my impression that there is a large gap between the poor and rich in Beirut (compared to Europe): The rich have a big urge to show their wealth openly through fancy cars, fashion and designer bags: In Europe many wealthy people go low key.

Yes bt its worth bearing in mind most of the luxury vehicles you see arent necessarily very rich people. Lebanese people spend a disproportionate amount of their net worth on cars. This used to be much worse before. Basically everyone goes for BMW/Mercedes? range rover.


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Final thoughts
Based on my experiences Beirut is not a place I would go back to as my 1st choice. It is a rough place for a beginner due to the lack of IOIs during the day. For the more experienced, you need to establish a social circle right away (which I tried with 2 local girls - they got my # and I never got theirs - and nothing happened). If you just come as a solo male it will be uphill for a 1 week trip since you cannot get into the clubs yourself (unless you befriended some females who want to go). Of course, if you have tight game all places in the World will be a playground/candy store.

I agree. I feel you nailed the place down as far as logistics and areas. As far as game it takes some getting used to. But its a hard place to have consistent results. Like i always say ive had monthes where i had ten ons and monthes where i would get nothing.

If youre not hitting the nightlife substantially then you reduce your odds A LOT.

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What I liked:
I like the hedonistic ambience in Beirut: People drink and smoke and dont give a fuck like in Europe: They enjoy life to the fullest. I never felt unsafe: Unlike many places in Europe you don't have large groups of young men hanging out (loitering) looking for trouble. At least above the red line you can walk everywhere during the night - and in the downtown area you will even have armed military personel at mini checkpoints (often with Humvees). I saw almost no beggars (except for some young women with their baby in Hamra St) and did not have problems with kids running after me wanting money or something else.

Yes although i see a lot of beggars mainly from syria but they usually hit the highway during traffic hours.

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What I didn't like:
In general, locals were often not very friendly and open - I had higher expectations (in my book, so far nothing beats the openness and friendliness of Americans). They often show subtle arrogance - for instance on the sidewalks they will often not share the space with you and you have to step on the road or crawl along the wall - unheard of in Europe. Often, locals would talk bad about their own people and government. I guess it is all very mixed.


I think the sidewalk thing is a personal space issue. When i walk here on a sideway i routinely bump into guys or do last second shoulder turns. We dont get bothered by it.

As for talking bad about each other, thats our favorite national hobby.

Thanks for the assessment, i think what hurt you most is 1- the hard nature of game in the place and 2- your daygame focus.
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Beirut 2018 data sheet

+1 for the data sheet

I think Lebanese girls are hot...will definitely try to bang one in Lebanon or outside of Lebanon in the future.

Edit: how is the American University of Beirut for day game?
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Quote: (11-18-2018 03:59 PM)Beirut Wrote:  

Thanks for the assessment, i think what hurt you most is 1- the hard nature of game in the place and 2- your daygame focus.

You are so very much correct. I wasn't able to find a consistent flow of like minded guys who wanted to go out for night game. Of course if you are experienced you just go by yourself, but as a beginner its nice to hunt as a group.
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Quote: (11-18-2018 04:02 PM)Soy Jooce Wrote:  

+1 for the data sheet

I think Lebanese girls are hot...will definitely try to bang one in Lebanon or outside of Lebanon in the future.

Edit: how is the American University of Beirut for day game?

The AUB is basically a gold mine for cute/hot girls in the 18-25 range. It is like a mini city isolated by the big city (it covers a rather large area of Beirut). You will see hundreds of girls walking between classes most of them slim and petite. Very few chubby ones. Very few alpha males. Also a lot of girls sitting alone on benches fiddling with their phone or reading a book. I tried to approach such a girl by elderly chatting but it went nowhere. I could imagine that problems arise if you start mass approaching since you will soon start to be noticed by the other ones. So maybe go mass approach 1 day and come back 1 week later. The AUB is designed to have visitors so you will also see older tourists, families etc inside the premises with a visitors tag on (maybe).

The AUB is the rich kids university where the girls are flashing their designer clothes bought by daddy. Less than 10% of the girls wear a veil.

A few 100 meters south of AUB you have the Lebanese American University, basically on the other side of Hamra St. It is located on a steep terrain and is MUCH smaller than the AUB campus, however with lots of cute girls too. But due to its compactness you should be more careful. This uni is def not designed to have guests but I managed to slip pass the guards since I look young enough to be a student.

Sidenote: If you hang out just outside the two mentioned campuses in the morning and afternoon, you will have hundreds of these girls walking to the main entrances or leaving the entrances to be picked up by their parents somewhere else.

Then there are many more universities (towards the S and E), with almost no campus terrain, a larger fraction of veils, noticeable less designer clothes and less cuteness.

idane
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