[torridon747]

(06-27-2018 04:59 AM)gework Wrote:  

But what percentage of drug addicts stay clean? 10%? And how many really come to terms with everything that went on in relation to it? 1%?

The harsh reality is depending on your metric of "addict" it's way less than 10%. Something like 5-20% (varies by drug, rehab, and screening) of drug addicts that check into rehab stay clean, but that's only the people who voluntarily check in. The total percentage of addicts that get clean and stay clean is a lot lower.

Once a slut always a slut IMO. I wouldn't want to be seen arm in arm with a girl that's fucked half the town anyway.

[Fortis]

(06-26-2018 03:53 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

If you are an older dude, you have no fucking choice but to LTR up a former slut.

Over 40 means shes had dick all over the place by the time she comes to you.

Even if they were a good girl and married early etc. after their divorce they got back into shape and "started dating again" you know what that means.

So its either date your hand or love up a former slut.

Or move to a country like China, Japan or Korea and you can date and possibly marry a chick who is young and isn't a slut.

Why limit yourself to used-up western hoes?

[CleanSlate]

(06-27-2018 05:43 AM)Fortis Wrote:  

(06-26-2018 03:53 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

If you are an older dude, you have no fucking choice but to LTR up a former slut.

Over 40 means shes had dick all over the place by the time she comes to you.

Even if they were a good girl and married early etc. after their divorce they got back into shape and "started dating again" you know what that means.

So its either date your hand or love up a former slut.

Or move to a country like China, Japan or Korea and you can date and possibly marry a chick who is young and isn't a slut.

Why limit yourself to used-up western hoes?

Isn’t he in Thailand though?

[Fortis]

No idea. If that was the case in Thailand, I'd leave.

[lunchmoney]

bumping this popular thread as I had this convo w/ a recovering beta friend yesterday. I was trying to talk sense to him, as he is head over heels for a early 30s "reformed slut". She was a stripper for six years, who quit to take an office job as a paralegal in a law firm. He is an attorney and met her through an intro with a lawyer at the place she works.

I told him no matter how well she cleans up during the day, six years of pole dancing and VIP bumping and grinding in Atlanta = a lifetime of dick she probably has sucked and fucked.

[Dasein]

Maybe, but why bother? When looking at women for your future partner, it's important to look at the best-case and worst case scenarios.

With a reformed slut, you are already getting a girl with an embarrassing sexual history, years of experience being sexually permissive with men, the psychological damage that comes with her many relationships with other men, a destroyed ability to pair bond, and a strongly reinforced association of sex as a casual act. The best case is that you get all of these downsides but with the positives that you could already get from other women. There is no outcome where the best-case with her will equal the best-case with a woman who was not a slut from the beginning.

The worst case is that she is not "reformed" and that you are getting setup. You buy into a relationship and connect your family and friends to a woman who poses a great risk to those relationships. You invite everyone to see that you commit to her in the form of a public wedding and then-- she fucks other dudes, publicly humiliates you, permanently lowers your value, psychologically harms you, and has wasted years of your time that you could have spent with an actual quality woman. And then everyone says "you should have known". And it's true. Perhaps that worst case exists with any other woman, but given the lack of upside to the relationship, why take the risk?

There is an apparent reformed slut that I know. She's extremely pretty. Once I was at a party and some guy shouted "Hey, who's fucked X, raise your hand?" About nine dudes did and I was one of them. And that's just at one party. Anyways, she ruins her reputation so badly that she travels to another country. There she joins a volunteer mission and builds huts for the poor or whatever. She puts on the goody two-shoes act. She marries a nice unsuspecting dude about a year later and they are constantly posting facebook pictures. He has no idea that she was the village bicycle, that she had sex with four dudes in a day, that several of them urinated on her, that she let multiple men spank her or do her in the ass for drugs, that she was on her knees naked at a party blowing a complete stranger.

Maybe she really is reformed and maybe she will be loyal but that does not change the facts or her history. You can buy a car that's been in an accident before and maybe it's fine now but maybe it's not. My thoughts are that if a guy goes this route, there is only one reason that makes the decision rational. That is, if she is compensating for this past with some other extreme upside.

Examples
- Young or of near perfect marriage age (24-28).
- Has extreme family wealth or social connections.
- Is extremely attractive.

All of this has to be beyond the SMV that the man could normally command. There is no point to go for a reformed slut if she is not discounted.

[MongolianAbroad]

(02-11-2015 10:25 PM)PittFighter Wrote:  

define slut

you mean a girl who has fucked more than ten men? twenty? thirty? fifty?

Or do you mean the circumstances of the sexual acts? gangbangs? three blowjobs a day?

Because, depending on age, I would not call a woman who has had ten, twenty, thirty or even forty partners a "slut."

[BaatumMania]

Had a lot of married MILFs who cold approached me in Korea. I hear a lot of them target foreign men because most foreign men can't really rat them out (because most middle age Koreans are shit at English).

So this is the problem if you marry a slut... She will probably be having affairs now and then... It's kind of crazy to have kids in 2018 without getting a DNA test (but some men are afraid if the results say negative then they don't want to go through an expensive divorce).

[Jefferson]

Yes.

It is absolutely possible to reform a slut. There is empirical evidence:

The love story of Benjamin Prufer and Sreykeo, the Cambodian prostitute is well documented. Benjamin met Sreykeo and did not realise she was a prostitute. Even though she was infected with AIDS, slept with other men for money WHILST they were together, Benjamin married Sreykeo. He has paid for her AIDS treatment and they had a child. A film was made about their life, "Same same but different".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same_Same_...ite_note-1

Last I checked after 13 years they are still together. Benjamin's Facebook page says he's still married to her, though Sreykeo's interestingly has no relationship info and virtually no pictures of Benjamin.

Then of course you have Priscilla Ballieu, a quasi virgin with one notch Elvis met when she was 14. Ran off with the Karate teacher and turned out to be a real slut.

The world is a complicated, unpredictable place. And the key is that being a slut is a fluid state of affairs, before she becomes a slut every girl is a good girl. Ava Gardner was notorious for being a non-slut. Before she started giving it away like candy. That is the thing that terrifies us men, that every woman has the potential to become a slut. You just never know.

My own two cents, arguably a woman like Sreykeo was not a slut, she just had to fuck for money because she was poor. Similarly 65% of Filipinas would be sluts because they are semi-pros who jump from LTR to LTR giving away sex freely in exchange for money and mobile phones, restaurant trips and holidays. Equally 65% of Cuban women are sluts because they ask for money after a sexual encounter, because they earn virtually nothing. But are they really? Are not the western women who do not need to be promiscuous but choose to go from cock to cock purely for pleasure are they not the true sluts?

[Bazzwaldo]

No, you can't reform a slut but you can rename one

[Transsimian]

It depends on what you mean by "slut".

Some "sluts" enjoy sex, and seek out new experiences. If you are creative at sex, then perhaps you could keep her satisfied. Diseases aside, this is positive as it's unlikely to be a dead bedroom.

Some "sluts" use their vagina as a substitute for a likable personality. If the woman finds a new source of social worth, then she might become more reliable. I would be cautious though, as she is accustomed to see sex as a transaction, so boring seas ahoy.

Some "sluts" were hurt in the past, so bed-hop to avoid getting too attached to another man. This is far beyond my knowledge to heal or advise on, sorry.

[Polniy_Sostav]

Being a slut in the deep nature of women. It is all about how much you can repress this feeling in her.

[joecolombia]

It highly depends on her and if she´s willing to reform.

If she feels trapped under someone, she might continue being a slut without you even knowing... sluts are great at covering lies and gaslighting you.

I think what you reflect on her will make or break the whole transformation. I mean, ifyou get to fullfil the void she would be acquiring by becoming less, slutty, it might acrtually turn out okay.

[budoslavic]

Quote:

Can a slut be reformed?

When a girl took - or continue taking - so many dicks of various sizes into her two - or even three - holes, no...a slut can never be reformed.

Heartiste's recent post is a must-read on what happened when a fresh foreign girl started hopping on the cock carousel once she landed in the USA.

Quote:

Ukraine Is Wench
November 21, 2018 by CH

A reader had passed along a quick story about his time with a Ukrainian chick, and it was too funny to keep buried in the Chateau vault.

"This is a Ukrainian girl who had a notch count of 1 when she left Kiev and she stayed in San Francisco over the summer and fucked 13 different guys and sexted dozens more. The American culture turned her into a mega slut. I found this on her profile page, and I don’t know if this was done intentionally, but it clearly shows she likes to ride the cock carousel!"


Would maul.

...

What the reader says about American culture corrupting foreign foxes is true. Something happens to these lithe ludmilas once they land on US soil that immediately weaponizes their hypergamy and turns them from tradwives in flower necklaces flouncing through spring meadows into thots with a taste for anal play.

It could be a selection effect: foreign femmes who leave their family behind for a few extra shekels are the kind to be ruthlessly pragmatic about cock-laddering their way to an American alpha male who will pay for their leopard-print lifestyle. Plus, once these girls are out from under the patriarchal oversight of their steely-eyed native men, they go crazy exploiting the naive soyium in America.

And maybe we have to concede that American culture is rotten, and corrupt, and dismally dehumanizing, capable of pushing psychologically fragile but still relatively chaste foreign girls to the slut side.

[PremiumBeefCut]

Why do you even want to try

[bobman498]

Like others said,it could happen but mostly likely not. Less than one in 100. I do agree with the other guy,if a girl spelt w 5 guys from 18 to 20. She changed her ways when she was young maybe. Its probably not worth the headache.

[Kingsley88]

maybe but depends on her own initiative