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#51

Anyone have ADHD?

Quote: (12-06-2016 03:32 PM)tawm Wrote:  

Quote: (12-05-2016 11:42 PM)MrBoombastic Wrote:  

The "scientist" who created the ADHD label admitted on his deathbed that it was a fake disorder. Either way, Ritalin/Adderall can really help you focus and get work done, so it's useful for that at least. Then again it's basically legalized meth.

Low-energy, no-effort post. 2/10 because you got me to reply.

Maybe it was a low energy post but it contained more truth than every other post here. Psychiatry is a fake science and all of those "mental disorders" are all mostly fake and used as an excuse to sell billions of dollars worth of psychiatric drugs to people, mostly stupid women.
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#52

Anyone have ADHD?

Quote: (12-06-2016 05:47 PM)MrBoombastic Wrote:  

Quote: (12-06-2016 03:32 PM)tawm Wrote:  

Quote: (12-05-2016 11:42 PM)MrBoombastic Wrote:  

The "scientist" who created the ADHD label admitted on his deathbed that it was a fake disorder. Either way, Ritalin/Adderall can really help you focus and get work done, so it's useful for that at least. Then again it's basically legalized meth.

Low-energy, no-effort post. 2/10 because you got me to reply.

Maybe it was a low energy post but it contained more truth than every other post here. Psychiatry is a fake science and all of those "mental disorders" are all mostly fake and used as an excuse to sell billions of dollars worth of psychiatric drugs to people, mostly stupid women.

It's possible to admit that psychiatry is a heavily commercialized industry, while still recognizing that some people are born with cognitive impairments.

ADHD is like PTSD or anxiety in a way. Really easy to dismiss these conditions as bullshit when you don't understand the way another man's brain works.
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#53

Anyone have ADHD?

Quote: (11-17-2016 06:13 PM)the Thing Wrote:  
  • You never fully TREAT it you just MANAGE it
  • Ritalin (Concerta, Adderall, ...) works until you decide to stop using them, at which point your dopamine system is fucked forever.
  • Hyper focusing on certain things is right, in fact it's sometimes called "selective attention" because of this. You focus OCD level on certain things and just can't be bothered about others
  • It is usually accompanied by very high intelligence, as a result of this and the above you end up being rock star at certain things and sucking at others. I learned to read and write at 3 read wrote and spoke two languages fluently by 7 and was coding in C++ by 9. Got into Mensa in my teens.
  • So the obvious roadmap is to (1) find out what you're good at, and (2) double down.
  • Do NOT ever use ADHD as an excuse, in fact I'd say it actually puts you ahead at certain things. But don't let it get to your head either.
  • You NEVER tell anyone except your closest circle that you have ADHD, kind of like you never tell anyone except your closest circle that you smash an absolute fuck ton of chicks, you just appear oblivious to the thing and let an air of mystery build around the whole subject. (Same goes with hard drugs too)
  • Speaking of smashing, I have this thing where if I sleep with the same girl more than 3-4 times, it doesn't count anymore. Like I get absolutely zero satisfaction and just go through the motions to keep the plate spinning. Though this may be due to something other than ADHD. (I had a pretty shitty childhood overall)
  • I was pretty well ostracized at every circle I've been in, had to change schools twice before high school because of my impulsive behavior being dangerous to other students. If you have it your kid will probably have it too, I'd say godspeed and I hope you have the patience of a prophet.
  • If you obsess too much over it you'll do nothing but keep fucking yourself over. If you saw what I went through while writing this post I'd be cringing hard right now, I circled my 2-bedroom apartment running naked at least 15 times, had 2 glasses of whiskey, smoked a fuck ton of cigarettes, watched a dozen Youtube videos and shaved my dick hair, all while trying to put my thoughts together.
  • I myself used to obsess over it a lot and think "oh man I'm going to tank hard" before I sat down to study before every midterm. (Needless to say there wasn't much studying going on anyway) I maintained a 4.0 GPA throughout high school and scored quite remarkable at every single college exam because it naturally came to me, and I barely managed to finish a BS in Engineering by what I call a complete act of God (and a fuck ton of amphetamines) I went to a top school for a MS in Engineering but dropped out because I couldn't be bothered.
  • Nowadays I don't obsess over it anymore because I'm very good at what I do (if you're very good at something you'll hear it repeatedly from other people, that's how you know) and I proved to myself in multiple occasions that I'll make a pretty good living with it wherever I go. I still feel very socially awkward because of what I went through when I was a kid. But this isn't a yuge problem since you're pretty good at a few niche things you'll have a lot of time to hone in on your soft skills and make yourself a very unique and interesting personality.
  • Comes in handy with women as well since you don't have to act like you don't give a fuck but you actually and without control can't give a fuck. I always did better than average with women and I did especially well with women at times where the aforementioned self doubt didn't cloud me (Good Looking Loser has an article on this self doubt thing, was very inspirational to me) I noticed that when my business life went well, my dating life automatically started to improve so I mostly focus on inner game, lifestyle and business nowadays.
  • Nicotine use, particularly smoking, seems to be very popular among ADHD users as well. I think this is the brain's subconscious attempt to self medicate. And it works. But the funniest is when you do coke in a group, where everyone gets mad psyched but you're sitting and chilling super calm because it doesn't get you very high just fixes you.

Thank you for sharing your experience. I've been in therapy for almost two years and my brand new doc diagnosed me with ADHD after my second session. I had 90%+ of the symptoms he described. I always did extremely well in school so it went completely under the radar.

I wanted to comment on some of your observations on your own behavior:

1. Can I assume that you tried taking medication regularly? I have taken small amounts of adderall from my friend when she has it, that was only in the past 4 years or so. Usually 10mg or less, and I've taken it <20 in my life. I never even thought to try it during college or my early 20s. If prescribed medicine I would plan to take a half- or quarter-dose sporadically when I REALLY needed to focus on work. I'd hate to fuck up my brain/dopamine receptors.

2. Completely co-signed on having autistic level focus on things that are interesting to me. This is the reason why my family and I never thought I could possibly be an ADD kid.

3. Like you I also did extremely well in school with minimal effort, mostly because I liked the praise associated with getting a good report card. When I got into the real world and no longer had a GPA, I found it pretty difficult to give a shit about my jobs and even my own business, outside of doing the bare minimum that would keep me out of trouble.

4. "I'm very good at what I do (if you're very good at something you'll hear it repeatedly from other people, that's how you know)." Interesting comment. Can I assume that you feel/felt a lot of indecisiveness or uncertainty about everything in your life, including your opinions on certain matters or even deciding if you are good at something? My doc told me a symptom of ADHD is indecisiveness or second-guessing yourself - I have a hard time valuing myself or recognizing my talents without the commentary of a third party. This also makes me very susceptible to manipulation depending on what kind of feedback or advice people give me.

5. Co-signed getting bored with women very easily. Initially thought it might be a low-T thing. As I get older and my game/confidence continues to improve, I often turn down pussy or bail on super solid prospects because I can't focus/care about finishing the job, even though I'm just as horny as my friends. If I could combine focus with my game/social skills, I would be an absolute beast. Note: Also saw that you mentioned self-doubt in this bullet. Shit is real!

6. I've had the same experience with cocaine. One line makes me feel calm, quiet, and at peace, while it makes everyone else run their mouth and do backflips. I'll get hyper like that if I do a decent amount, but I honestly don't really like getting to that level.

Other notes

-I tend to be a extreme minimalist with personal belongings, but also carry way too much stuff with me when I go places. The inside of my car looks like a bomb hit it. Both of these tendencies are because I'm trying to avoid losing or forgetting important stuff (Have very few things so there is not a lot to misplace, carry everything at all times, so you'll never forget anything).

-I lost my debit card 4 times in 2016. That's pretty standard for a drunk college freshman, but not a 29 year old man. Right??

-I am indecisive on what I like, so I have a hard time choosing my style, food, the types of girls I go out with, and how I spend my free time.

Would love to hear from more people about their experiences.
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#54

Anyone have ADHD?

Fellow ADHDers will appreciate this - while reading this thread I did the following:

Got up to make a protein shake, got 2 of my textbooks to study up a bit, read about finance in 3 other tabs I have open, listen to a political youtube video and use my cell phone.

It's funny when people think it's completely made up. Not everything can be "cured" by "just focusing."

Something of note too, when I was a baby/toddler, I had to take a lot of steroids and antibiotics for asthma. I had a lot of health issues and I believe my microbiome was severely effected. There is definitely a mind/gut link that needs to be explored more. Even taking probiotics doesn't fully restore some of the gut flora.

Another thing I noticed is when I had a bad sports injury. The doctor wanted to give me both a numbing injection and lidocaine and decadron at the local muscular level. Well it turns out the dosage of lidocaine was toxic and I nearly went into shock. I felt as though I was about to die. It was extremely traumatic.

Following weeks/months I also noticed that I didn't feel "right" and it turns out the medication I was given (the steroid which takes a few weeks to fully work) is also given to brain cancer patients BUT it has to be stopped sometimes because it causes psychosis and neurochemical changes. Doctor never told me any of that.

My ADHD definitely became much worse after this happened. I assumed it is both from the psychological and chemical effects.

For what it's worth, Vyvanse works well for me but I notice my word recall on it is poor. I also wonder if it has long term effects or if there are any supplements I can take to help protect against this.

As for the behavior patterns they seem very similar amongst us. Anxiety, depression, PTSD and other issues are also linked with ADHD.

- I get bored of girls fairly quickly. But I will fucking chase like a lion if I haven't been able to lock a girl down. Also thought it was low T, but when I fixed that, it was the same. After a few bangs/dates I was kind of over it.
- Second guess my self fairly often as well.
- As you can see my writing style is all over the place.
- Becoming increasingly forgetful - it wasn't as bad about 4 years ago.
- Indecisiveness.
- Hyperfocus on irrelevant things when I NEED to be doing something important. "Hey I have an assignment due, but apparently looking up the tallest mountains in the world is extremely interesting right now."


The list goes on. I'm even writing ITT as I should be studying a bit for interviews.
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#55

Anyone have ADHD?

Quote: (11-18-2016 12:33 PM)Nater Wrote:  

@The Thing, can you please expand on this.
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Ritalin (Concerta, Adderall, ...) works until you decide to stop using them, at which point your dopamine system is fucked forever
How does it fuck your dopamine system?

From what I’ve read so far on the internet, people who have ADHD contrary to popular belief have less dopamine in the brain. We are somehow less stimulated. What the drug does is it raises those levels of dopamine. Like a person who have diabetes and has a low level of insulin. Needs insulin injection to keep functioning.

Yes. You are correct. Adderall (amphetamine) stimulates the release of dopamine while Ritalin (equivalent to cocaine kind of) blocks the reuptake which means the dopamine stays for longer where it needs to be. Thing is, amphetamine is the cheat code of life and if you stop once you get used to it, you end up in a worse situation than you started.

Quote: (11-18-2016 12:33 PM)Nater Wrote:  

@The Thing Are you still under medication or no?

I have an amphetamine (Adderall equivalent) scrip that I abuse the fuck out of. I self medicate with LSD microdosing which also sort of works but not as good as proper speed.
Bottom line is you have to keep yourself stimulated at literally all times, otherwise it gets pretty depressing. Simply because we don't respond to motivation and reward as strongly as non ADHD people do so you gotta make every day count.
I guess ADHD usually co exists with anxiety disorder because of the dopamine deficiency thing. No antidepressant could fix my anxiety as good as Adderall did.

Quote: (11-18-2016 12:33 PM)Nater Wrote:  

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It's also true that the meds have diminishing returns over time and I'm considering going off them know that I've put my life on a new track (like another member said above, a big part of it is just seeing what you're really capable of).

This was my fear. I wonder why you need to raise the dosage every time. Why do you feel like stopping them? Can you be as productive without them?
Ummm. No. You don't really need to raise the dosage but if you don't wanna build a tolerance, skip a couple days just crash and have a chill day.

Quote: (11-18-2016 03:23 PM)stefpdt Wrote:  

^^Bro he isn't talking about increasing the dosage. He's talking about how using a medication like Vyvanse can help you realize what you're actually capable of accomplishing. You will eventually reach a point (usually around the one year mark) where you might not even need to take meds any longer because you've already established neurotypical brain patterns.

This has nothing to do with needing to increase doses. It's about finding a dose that works for you, sticking to it, and living your life as a normal human being. Your life will probably change for the best once you start with meds and come to understand what we're talking about.
Not really, I guess natural dopamine release is downregulated once you go on speed because I ended up worse when I stopped my meds. Ofc this is all anecdotal evidence.

Quote: (02-03-2017 01:01 PM)Eddie Winslow Wrote:  

Quote: (11-17-2016 06:13 PM)the Thing Wrote:  

Thank you for sharing your experience. I've been in therapy for almost two years and my brand new doc diagnosed me with ADHD after my second session. I had 90%+ of the symptoms he described. I always did extremely well in school so it went completely under the radar.

I wanted to comment on some of your observations on your own behavior:

1. Can I assume that you tried taking medication regularly? I have taken small amounts of adderall from my friend when she has it, that was only in the past 4 years or so. Usually 10mg or less, and I've taken it <20 in my life. I never even thought to try it during college or my early 20s. If prescribed medicine I would plan to take a half- or quarter-dose sporadically when I REALLY needed to focus on work. I'd hate to fuck up my brain/dopamine receptors.
I took it pretty regularly, even though I hated it growing up because you're in your teens and you're already going through a lot of heavy shit and you have no idea what's happening to your body, only thing you know is your mom hands these pills to you every morning and an hour after you take it you start cold sweating, wired as fuck and appear weird from the outside so no one wants you in their social circle. If you end up having an ADHD kid I recommend you help him in every way possible with the meds because it's very hard to process what's happening to you if you have ignorant parents that don't know shit.

Quote: (02-03-2017 01:01 PM)Eddie Winslow Wrote:  

2. Completely co-signed on having autistic level focus on things that are interesting to me. This is the reason why my family and I never thought I could possibly be an ADD kid.

3. Like you I also did extremely well in school with minimal effort, mostly because I liked the praise associated with getting a good report card. When I got into the real world and no longer had a GPA, I found it pretty difficult to give a shit about my jobs and even my own business, outside of doing the bare minimum that would keep me out of trouble.

4. "I'm very good at what I do (if you're very good at something you'll hear it repeatedly from other people, that's how you know)." Interesting comment. Can I assume that you feel/felt a lot of indecisiveness or uncertainty about everything in your life, including your opinions on certain matters or even deciding if you are good at something? My doc told me a symptom of ADHD is indecisiveness or second-guessing yourself - I have a hard time valuing myself or recognizing my talents without the commentary of a third party. This also makes me very susceptible to manipulation depending on what kind of feedback or advice people give me.
Second guessing is pretty spot on. Refer to the GLL article I linked to earlier.

Quote: (02-03-2017 01:01 PM)Eddie Winslow Wrote:  

5. Co-signed getting bored with women very easily. Initially thought it might be a low-T thing. As I get older and my game/confidence continues to improve, I often turn down pussy or bail on super solid prospects because I can't focus/care about finishing the job, even though I'm just as horny as my friends. If I could combine focus with my game/social skills, I would be an absolute beast. Note: Also saw that you mentioned self-doubt in this bullet. Shit is real!
Go for the "prescription speedball" which is adderall + xanax, pretty awesome combo to game on. Replace xanax with OxyContin if you're hardcore. I don't want to end up with an opiate addiction so I just stick to benzos for toning down the jitters of the amphetamine. If I could pick any amphetamine I'd definitely go with meth, more euphoric high and lasts longer so try getting a Desoxyn scrip which is totally a thing in the U.S. but absolutely impossible to get where I live. Stick to 5 mg at a time, never exceed your prescribed dosage (max 25 mg a day I guess) and always orally NEVER SMOKE IT. The ones who end up tweakers end up so because they smoke 150+ mg to go jerk off under a bridge for 10 hours, meth is the best amphetamine hands down but youre literally playing with a loaded gun.

Quote: (02-03-2017 01:01 PM)Eddie Winslow Wrote:  

6. I've had the same experience with cocaine. One line makes me feel calm, quiet, and at peace, while it makes everyone else run their mouth and do backflips. I'll get hyper like that if I do a decent amount, but I honestly don't really like getting to that level.

Other notes

-I tend to be a extreme minimalist with personal belongings, but also carry way too much stuff with me when I go places. The inside of my car looks like a bomb hit it. Both of these tendencies are because I'm trying to avoid losing or forgetting important stuff (Have very few things so there is not a lot to misplace, carry everything at all times, so you'll never forget anything).

-I lost my debit card 4 times in 2016. That's pretty standard for a drunk college freshman, but not a 29 year old man. Right??

-I am indecisive on what I like, so I have a hard time choosing my style, food, the types of girls I go out with, and how I spend my free time.

Would love to hear from more people about their experiences.
I am also pretty indecisive, had many hardcore shopper girl friends flip out on me in shopping malls because I couldn't pick a fucking shirt in half a day.
I also lose each of my credit cards about once a year.

“Our great danger is not that we aim too high and fail, but that we aim too low and succeed.” ― Rollo Tomassi
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#56

Anyone have ADHD?

Hey guys! I haven't posted in here for a while and I feel like I owe it to some of you who gave me advice when I really needed it. Many thanks to all of you!

To continue from where I left; I got diagnosed about two months ago and got prescribed Aderrall XR 20 mg, which I make sure to take on an everyday basis. My condition has improved in the sense that I am able to focus without zoning out, and I am more productive overall.

Obviously, this is not without any downsides as I am a little unsure of the long term repercussions of the drug on my brain and body. Besides that I felt a little more forgetful as fiasco described; I wonder though if it was caused by the drug or my memory was that bad to begin with, maybe the drug just made me more conscious of that. I don't know? What do you guys think about this?

Talking about memory, I recently discovered the existence of mnemonics. I still need to do more research about it but it looks promising, if you guys are not familiar with this check out memory palace technique. Anyone has any experience with this?

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Something of note too, when I was a baby/toddler, I had to take a lot of steroids and antibiotics for asthma. There is definitely a mind/gut link that needs to be explored more.

Another thing I noticed is when I had a bad sports injury.

Fiasco I had very similar experiences throughout my childhood. I was hospitalized a few times because of my health, namely infections and injuries. I had two major brain injuries which I believe aggravated or maybe caused my ADHD somehow as none of my family members seems to have it.

Did your doctor take into account these injuries and traumas before giving you the med? Did you go through any particular testing?

I am afraid that what occurred to me as a child might have changed my brain in a way... And, the medication I am taking is not appropriate. Maybe, I am just paranoid lol.
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#57

Anyone have ADHD?

I'm thinking of going back on a med. Any suggestions? I was on strattera forever than off meds for a long time. I'm finding it hard to concentrate on things I enjoy doing, and end up wasting time on the phone don't being productive. I heard about modafinil too.
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#58

Anyone have ADHD?

Quote: (10-06-2018 04:32 PM)kbell Wrote:  

I'm thinking of going back on a med. Any suggestions? I was on strattera forever than off meds for a long time. I'm finding it hard to concentrate on things I enjoy doing, and end up wasting time on the phone don't being productive. I heard about modafinil too.

Vyvanse > Adderall > Ritalin > Aspirin > Eating one's own shit > ..... > Strattera

It's not a stimulant and it simply doesn't work. Try to get Vyvanse or addy

“Our great danger is not that we aim too high and fail, but that we aim too low and succeed.” ― Rollo Tomassi
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#59

Anyone have ADHD?

I'm on Wellbutrin which isn't really for ADHD but that is why I take it (antidepressant that is a NDRI. Completely different than SSRIs acts on dopamine, but works steadily so you don't feel it hit in the morning or anything.)

The Adderall etc are much better for concentration but more for work than day to day IMO because there's a crash at the end of the day after you take it a while. I don't take any Adderall Ritalin etc but largely because I avoid narcotics for personal reasons.

And yeah strattera is worthless (many feel that way about Wellbutrin but it works better than just coffee for me.)
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#60

Anyone have ADHD?

Hahhahaa. It was ok for awhile since it was gentle on my stomach but than I noticed my concentration wasn't great so I dropped it. I've heard of innutiv too.
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#61

Anyone have ADHD?

Does anyone have high testosterone, lots of energy and a sex drive that is through the roof? Are you forced into a setting where you do not expend that energy?

Then you may have "ADHD"!
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#62

Anyone have ADHD?

Perhaps, but I still have the fragmented thought process when my testosterone is lower and my energy levels are low. Perhaps its damage from the meds when younger. At the time they didn't have alternate styles of teaching, like on a bouncy ball or letting students stand. Mediation helps, but it hard to sit still longer than a few minutes. A good medition is half an hour!
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#63

Anyone have ADHD?

Quote: (10-07-2018 10:50 AM)chrisblackbeard Wrote:  

Does anyone have high testosterone, lots of energy and a sex drive that is through the roof? Are you forced into a setting where you do not expend that energy?

Then you may have "ADHD"!

I realized this after one semester of college, dropped out now I'm in a trade (working on my master license at this point.)

If I had gone the desk job route I would be on hard stimulants the rest of my life, too restless.
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#64

Anyone have ADHD?

Quote: (10-07-2018 12:20 AM)godfather dust Wrote:  

I'm on Wellbutrin which isn't really for ADHD but that is why I take it (antidepressant that is a NDRI. Completely different than SSRIs acts on dopamine, but works steadily so you don't feel it hit in the morning or anything.)

The Adderall etc are much better for concentration but more for work than day to day IMO because there's a crash at the end of the day after you take it a while. I don't take any Adderall Ritalin etc but largely because I avoid narcotics for personal reasons.

And yeah strattera is worthless (many feel that way about Wellbutrin but it works better than just coffee for me.)

Curious what's your Wellbutrin experience?

I was recently prescribed Wellbutrin for a very severe clinical depressive episode (basically one shitty thing happened after another, so I couldn't take it anymore and finally collapsed) and I've been using it for roughly 2 months or so.

Started with 150mg once a day (XL extended release version, not immediate release) and here's what I got:
  • Depressed feeling *sort of* gone but so is EVERYTHING ELSE.
  • Complete apathy towards literally everything, I would think about doing something then say "meh, fuck it" and not do it.
  • This applied to everything, from doing shit at work, to seeing friends, going to the gym and even having sex
  • Normally I'm one of the horniest motherfuckers around, I have a live in LTR and we used to jump on each other 4 times a day but on Wellbutrin nope nothing. (This is particularly weird because apparently Wellbutrin is supposed to INCREASE sex drive not lower it)
  • Anxiety levels started creeping up, as a result self confidence levels started going lower.
  • Delusions of jealousy and persecution started taking me over and, this combined with everything else, I became very easily irritated.
Told my doctor this and he said "well we can try upping it to 300mg or we can switch to an SSRI" to which I replied "SSRI? HELLLLLLL NO" so I recently started 300mg XL together with my usual Vyvanse. Results are somewhat promising so far.

One thing I noticed is that even though Wellbutrin is supposed to be a stimulant, it does the exact opposite to me and if I take it in the morning I'm practically dead by early afternoon. Doc says this may be because the norepinephrine-dopamine reuptake inhibitor (NDRI) Wellbutrin might have a different effect due to my ADHD which itself is a norepinephrine-dopamine related condition. Uh by the way I get ZERO attention and focus benefits from Wellbutrin. Like absolutely nothing. Nada.

I figured "if this is gonna make me sleepy why shouldn't I take it at night then?" and went ahead and started taking my 300mg right before bed with my 10 mg Ambien. Sleep like a rock every night and waking up feeling pretty energized and uppity. Then I take a shower, eat a VERY heavy breakfast since after taking my speed (50 mg Vyvanse fucks my appetite straight over to hell) I won't be able to eat a single thing till late afternoon. No trouble focusing at all during the day, at least till the speed wears off LOL. I'm usually fully crashed by the time I get my workout in and have dinner so I then just chill with a drink or two, then rinse and repeat.

On days where I feel especially stressed, I add 1000mg Phenibut into this stack and that covers the speed tweak up pretty well.

So Wellbutrin when taken at night; the apathetic thoughts/lowered self confidence/anxiety and irritability effects are not as pronounced. Sex drive is mostly back to normal. I haven't seen any overall mood lift on it yet (maybe slightly) I still feel pretty bored and distant about my circumstances and future, I remember when I was working on my own startup I was super excited about literally everything and looking back at old pictures it looks like even my eyes were shining brighter. But I'll see if I get there.

Anyway curious how your off-label ADHD treatment experience has been? I saw next to no ADHD benefit from Wellbutrin so I'm pretty curious.

and PS: the Wellbutrin makes cigarettes taste like shit, and makes me crave not nearly as much. I find that annoying because I actually enjoy smoking.. but guess I'll quit now.. or not

Quote: (10-07-2018 01:28 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  

Quote: (10-07-2018 10:50 AM)chrisblackbeard Wrote:  

Does anyone have high testosterone, lots of energy and a sex drive that is through the roof? Are you forced into a setting where you do not expend that energy?

Then you may have "ADHD"!

I realized this after one semester of college, dropped out now I'm in a trade (working on my master license at this point.)

If I had gone the desk job route I would be on hard stimulants the rest of my life, too restless.

I went the desk job route, am a software engineer. Weird thing about the ADHD hyper-focus is that if the project I'm working on is well defined with clear goals and milestones, I can sit down and crush the coding in lightning speed even without the meds (as I'm very result driven so when I'm able to visualize the concrete end result, the progress towards it gives me the drive I need not the hard stimulants).

But if the project involves reading through countless pages of technical specifications, meeting after meeting where you repeat the same shit over and over to other people that may not be as well versed in the subject but you need to get everyone on the same page; and boring boilerplate coding and infrastructure/operational work that doesn't amount to much in the big picture, that doesn't give me the dopamine I need to feel like I'm achieving something so that's when I need the hard stimulants.

Should mention that I also think that I'd be much happier working in the trades, as the only thing keeping me here in corporate software engineering is the money. But I'd probably be better off starting my own tech company, than doing a huge career shift and going to the trades.

“Our great danger is not that we aim too high and fail, but that we aim too low and succeed.” ― Rollo Tomassi
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#65

Anyone have ADHD?

Quote: (10-07-2018 10:50 AM)chrisblackbeard Wrote:  

Does anyone have high testosterone, lots of energy and a sex drive that is through the roof? Are you forced into a setting where you do not expend that energy?

Then you may have "ADHD"!

Quote: (10-07-2018 11:01 AM)kbell Wrote:  

Perhaps, but I still have the fragmented thought process when my testosterone is lower and my energy levels are low. Perhaps its damage from the meds when younger. At the time they didn't have alternate styles of teaching, like on a bouncy ball or letting students stand. Mediation helps, but it hard to sit still longer than a few minutes. A good medition is half an hour!

Is there any truth to this? I've been on stimulants since I was little and I clock low T.

Not low enough that they'd put me on TRT but low for my age range regardless (clocked a 480 at 25 and 560 at age 26). Put myself on self prescribed TRT and now I feel MILES better.

Could the low T have been caused by the stims? I wonder.

“Our great danger is not that we aim too high and fail, but that we aim too low and succeed.” ― Rollo Tomassi
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#66

Anyone have ADHD?

the Thing in regards to wellbutrin: not great, better than nothing. And I mean that, it is useful, and the most useful thing I can take. Recovering drug addict I can't fuck with adderall etc I end up binging on porn dialing call girls, hitting up the xanax man etc.

Like I said my main solution to my ADHD issues is not doing things I can't do without drugs (such as sit at a desk for 8 hours.)

At home when I'm restless/thoughts racing I have a gym at my apartment complex that is very useful, if I can't sit still I hit the treadmill or eliptical for 30-60 minutes and I'm more relaxed after (also lift 3 days a week but that should go without saying, if you are worried about T and not doing that get on it.)

I still struggle with ADHD almost daily but it is manageable with all this.
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Anyone have ADHD?

Quote: (11-09-2018 06:35 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  

Recovering drug addict I can't fuck with adderall etc I end up binging

LOL I totally feel you. Stimulant addiction is a tough one; you keep thinking you're in control then one day you realize you're not, and it's a looong way back. Stay strong.

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