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Why can I only get average looking women?
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Why can I only get average looking women?

I still don't get where unexceptional men feel entitled to exceptional women. Some of you guys aren't any better than the hypergamous 5's and 6's you complain about.
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#52

Why can I only get average looking women?

Life is unfair. The most attractive individuals get the best jobs, are trusted more, are constantly desired and generally get away with most things.

Belgrano nailed it at it’s most basic form; you are not in their league.

MDP above also makes a super valid point about the objectivity of rating women. For me, it’s all about behavior as beautiful women are dime a dozen and a lot of this is by virtue of how many other guys wanna fuck the girl in question.

My thoughts on this might deviate from the posters above and I will provide some context for where I am coming from. This is what Tyler from RSD wrote, 15 years ago, when he wrote about the secret society.

This is written for communicating desire and evoking love from a top woman, not just for OP but for all lurkers who are feeling down on themselves. You can fuck a hot woman, sure, it takes some booze, some game and decent logistics. Then it’s just %s.

I am talking about her crying while you fuck her, tears of joy as she tells you she loves you, 3-4 weeks in.

I only came to the acceptance, this year, that my SMV is high and I have less need for game. It’s more as a framework to guide interactions to where I want them to go.

Since April 2018, using a 6 month period, I have interacted, discussed and flirted with more above-average looking women than before. This means 7s and above but I usually focus on 8s and above.

What changed? I am the happiest I have ever been in my whole life and trust me, I have been through shit. That shit gave me perspective.

Traveling gave me perspective. Surrounding myself with ultra successful individuals gave me perspective. Skype calls with certain members here gave me reference points.

I was you. I decided to learn game in 2005 and would be a teenager in a coffee shop with 35 and 45 year old divorcees, sharing notes on Mystery Method and the game. My mom would drop me off at a coffee shop thinking I was meeting my school mates and I was meeting grown ass men with kids my age, discussing how to fuck women. I wasted time and I gained time by experimenting but I missed the forest for the trees.

I was focused on the magic pill and not the essence of being a man and targeting the #1 thing women want, a man who is a man in every meaning of the word and being able to provide SELF ESTEEM to women.

Hot women will look at you and think, what the fuck can you offer me?

Refer to the first paragraph. Hot people have everything. Rich people get endorsements for everything, in an ironic way. Hot people are offered everything on a platter by virtue of having good genes. When you stop rewarding this shit, you differentiate yourself.

You NEED TO BE TOP SMV AND HOT. At least attempting to maximize this and communicate your efforts, indirectly.

Hot women want self-esteem because that's fucking scarce for women of all creeds, ages, shapes and sizes.

I reward this by proxy of behaviour, not looks and this is what sets me apart.

Life is fucking great man, accept it and it's yours to take. I am confident enough to say this and I smile as I type this.

The happiness I have now is infectious and communicates the #1 thing - outcome independence which in turn sparks curiosity in the finest women who are used to men throwing themselves at them. They start to hope, you are THE man and can provide this for them in the shape of feel good endorphins, pride and self-esteem.

I maintain this by hitting the gym regularly and aiming to be the best version of myself.

I am fortunate that I live in a city which has many beautiful PEOPLE in handfuls (RVF posters who have visited me here will attest to this) and as such it’s motivated me to become a 10 myself. To others it may not seem so but this is my belief and this is what is communicated to women. I finally permitted myself by not withholding it.
The guys I am up against are good looking. The women I aim for are world class. I regularly go out with a model 9. He is in Milan this weekend for a photoshoot. I still pull more dimes than he does because of my confidence.

I am handsome and this may put you off. You might use it as an excuse to invalidate my points. That’s your problem. It was mine for a long time until I had gay guys and straight women check me out, stare at me and enter my perimeter. I accepted I am hot and that I worked for it. The game came before the looks were refined.

It might shatter your ideology that attraction to women is a dimmer switch, not a light switch. It's not on and off. You are hot and that may get you on their radar. Your confidence and ability to channel this is what really sets you apart.

As a thought experiment, I would like to deconstruct what I believe works for me.

For the theme of this post:

Female beauty levels discussed: 8s and above; women I have both hooked up with and not hooked up. I choose a mix because the ones who you have hooked up have a choice-supportive bias (the opposite of buyers remorse). I like to be balanced in my analysis.

How I know them: A mix of cold approach, social circle, networking and convenience game (visiting places over a prolonged period of time). Girlfriends friends' (who are all dimes as they are natural killers; if you boys are reading this, you know who you are).

Duration of knowing them: Some examples are on a short-time frame (a few hours and direct). Some are through social circles (2-4 years). Others are professional connections who have opened up over drinks or through networking arrangements where we would come into interaction intermittently.

How did I develop myself: By being in a 3.5 year relationship where I didn’t worry about pussy and channeled my energy into improving every other aspect of my life. You can spend time chasing tail or invest time in building an empire.

I built it for a woman and ended up maintaining it for myself.

Lets dive in.

These are comments from 8s I have received and I spend a lot of time with women of this calibre who are very down to earth. They bring weed over, bake cakes for us (my mate and myself) and will come cook from time to time. We will play board games for fun, go to markets and they generally add a feminine vibe to our already masculine, energetic group. We will party together and have good times because we friendzoned them to open new pools of women. This is what I do and works and perhaps it may resonate with you, this is my default behavior with ANY woman I find attractive, regardless of how hot she is. I don’t change my behavior. I am constant and they adapt to me.

Feel free to refer through my post history for more examples specifically with access to these women. I write this assuming you have access and this is by virtue of being interesting, offering value, having a social circle and understanding that your reputation is #1. I am oldschool like that but acknowledge that social media is a prop for reputation too (first and last time I will bring up social media before you harpies latch on to this).

“You have an interesting look about you”
“You don’t look like any other man I have seen here”
“I am glad you don’t look like a fuckboy”
“Where are you from?”
“Oh I know who you are”


Interesting look - standing out - being memorable
- Slightly incongruent, sparks curiosity
- Handsome, chiseled face, strong jawline, tidy beard
- Well dressed (GQ, stylish) yet bad boy look/smoking
- Confident body language, holding eye contact, forcing IOIs (nodding, waving; essentially acknowledging their presence and rewarding their curiosity)
- I don’t fuck with tattoos, trends and all that shit. I look like I own a Range Rover yet I bust up a chat with the janitor at the bar to discuss football. I will tip 30% when I arrive yet tell the waiter to leave us alone when we are connecting.


Social circle game on point
- Pre-selection, reputation and generally girls knowing that you’re a top guy. This is long term and a reward of you being fun to be around.


“I can tell from the way you dance, that you know how to lead”
“You move with purpose”
“There’s just something about you that I find sexy”


Providing tools to fill in the gaps for them to consider you sexy
- Manly, smooth voice
- You can dance, in a sexy way which communicates masculinity
- Fit body (with clothes on, keeps mystery)
- The look that communicates sexy-ness – refer to VincentVinturi’s Ryan Gosling eye game thread
- Pre-selection – going out with hot women, sparking the curiosity from above
- Basically having your non-verbals on point

Rewarding this curiosity by being a top man
- You fuck her better than any other man and instill the seeds that you are irreplaceable in this manner. 50 shades of grey shit, whatever you wanna call it
- You make her feel protected through acts of chivalry e.g. you walk on the road-side of the sidewalk; you open doors; you pull out her chair
- You are subtly dominant when you are seen together. Arm over her, you grab her by the neck when she leans in, you casually smack her arse and are playful yet in control
- You fit the stereotype of a sexy man. In charge, reliable, make her feel safe etc. – literally a man.


“You lead a more fulfilling life than anyone else I know”
“The sexiest thing about you is your ambition”
“I admire the way you make me feel. Respected and wanted”
“I like the fact that I don’t need to make decisions around you”


Ability to lead the interactions
- You are in control but let her feel in control from time to time

Ability to elicit good emotions (rewarding their curiosity)
- Having a rich life and being able to tell good stories (Toastmasters helps with this)
- Confident to not rely on canned lines and instead, identifying what resonates with them and expressing this in a genuine manner. You sexualize this with your non-verbals. To further explain this, I use my verbals to showcase my curiosity, authenticity and build comfort. I use my non-verbals to attract.

Communicating your drive
- Your comfort with women is there but your disregard for their opinions (negative) shows that they are not your purpose. You balance this with positive reinforcement for most of their positive opinions and balance this with being cheeky, flirting and keeping them on their toes

You are unpredictable
- Less about mood swings and more about your schedule and how you operate. Nothing is set in stone because your life has so much shit going on

You are able to give them the #1 gift -> self-esteem; you make them feel good and you are on their mind when you aren't around
- This is the most crucial, the best women want to be seen with the best men. They know 100s of men want them but they want 100s of women to want YOU. You fucked all these women because they wanted validation that they are hot/desired. Well on a macro level, this is what every woman wants. When you communicate that desire, that’s their ‘fuck you’ to the rest of the women. “I have Noir, who do you have? You want Noir, but he is mine”
- They think about you all the time because you're impressionable. We fall in love in the absence of others. This is why I don't care about my response times and shit. I am busy 24/7 and fit them in my schedule but when I am with them, I am 110%. I wrote somewhere that I fall in love all the time. I do, I lust for them whenever I am with them.


So why did I write this whole blurb? Chances are you do this with the 6s and 7s you speak of. We all do this. We are all as confident as our familiarity of the situation. Around hotter women, we stumble. Either by lack of experience or by our own drawbacks.

Problem #1 – you are communicating that your judgment is based off her looks, not her behavior

This is the root of pedestalization and tells me you are hindering your progress with hotter women. They are rejecting this because its scarce and you are not used to hot women. They won’t open to you because they don’t believe you can handle them. You won't buy a Ferrari to drive it like a Prius.

Problem #2 – you think this should be easier than what it is

It’s not. It’s fucking hard if this is all you focus on. If you focus on improving your life and leading a rich, fulfilling and rewarding one then the top women will come to you. You get what you put out there. You reap the rewards of what you put in. As men, we feel the best when we are succeeding. The catch 22 is that you get the best women when you succeed elsewhere and that translates in to confidence. Prioritize, be patient and take control.
Figure out where this works for you. Refer to some of my other posts.

Problem #3 – You are average in comparison to your competition.
Again, I’ll throw out the Abidjan vs Monaco or Bucharest vs Miami example. You gotta be killing it to even be noticed. It’s a mix of girls noticing that you are valuable and on top of your shit + the confidence and lifestyle this provides for you to bounce off.

The main issue with problem #3 is that you communicate your mediocrity as a response to your own low self-esteem and lack of confidence. This is why bootcamps and shit emphasize believing you are a 10/10 and 'getting into state'. This is the hack of what I discuss above.


Flux touches upon a theme of my post. You got to be on top of it for you to hold down a woman of this calibre.

I am currently dating a girl who I would consider an 8, some would consider a 9. She is 5’8, I am 5’9. Blonde, perfect body and her personality is a 10/10. 5 years younger. The type that every person looks at when she enters the room. The type that my ex-girlfriends would jump out of the window if they saw us together.

I know guys are trying to DM her constantly, trying to flirt with her when I am not around etc. and I am comfortable with that because she can handle herself. Last night, we were having some drinks, waiting for some friends and she mentioned how 2 guys I know were messaging her and she just stopped responding to them.

I told her it’s fine, I had 4 girls do the same in the past week, after months and months. May 30th, July 3rd, July 9th and August 23rd and dated it for her. It’s a game recognize game and you will have shit tests here and there, it’s completely normal.

Can you infer the traits which are important by reading the above? Can you recognize the typical female behaviour of attraction? Guys complain about shit tests. To me that's feedback I am doing it right because she believes I am a fucking 10 but wants the feedback in real time because she is in disbelief that I descended from the heavens to grace her nubile little soul.

All of this is nothing, I am bulletproof because she knows my purpose is my purpose. I was on the journey before I met her and will be after her; hence the ambition being very attractive.

I can write a post on keeping these women around. I can write 500 posts on getting them. I can try and resurrect my post from the LTR thread (RIP) dissecting all of this but for brevity, let me distill the numerous key points here, off the top of my head:

- Be your best self and have a purpose in life.
- Know when to be fun, when to be sexy and when to be serious
- Never take things seriously, problems are never problems but always be firm if necessary
- Always smile and disarm people
- Always provide a good time
- Treat people like it’s your birthday party
- Give without expecting
- Leave people better off than you find them
- Share the value you have
- Maximize your looks and wealth
- Be anal about who you spend your time with and are seen with
- Know that your #1 goal in life is to reach your potential and you define that
- Define it now and stop being in a limbo


Print out the above if you need. Refer to my post on self-confidence or NLP or any of my other posts where I have drilled this in to other members.

Accept yourself, this is the first day of the best part of your life and it only gets better.

I tried to keep this brief, especially with the memorable quotes because this should suffice in getting the message across.

If you want some resources too, then go for it:

Books
How to Win Friends and Influence People
The Power of Now
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
Influence (Cialdini)
Maximum Achievement (Brian Tracy) -> this is the best book I have read, hands down. I am not sure if it was Investment Bro or someone else who mentioned this.

Misc
Any NLP from my previous posts such as:
Paul McKenna - Instant Confidence
Hypnotica - Sphinx of Imagination

Jordan Peterson's Self Authoring Program
Framing courses (psychology)
Toastmasters
Latin dancing
Boxing (some guys do BJJ and I heard great things about this too but never tried it)

I could add a few more but it would be superfluous. Identify the themes and the differentiators in this list.

Surround yourself with great, happy and successful individuals.
Exercise daily.
Fix your diet.
Increase your bankroll.
Spend time with your family and practice loving unconditionally.


I wish you all the best.

I might write a post on how to get women to fall in love with you but that's problematic for most who can't guide that energy.
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Why can I only get average looking women?

Noir murdered it
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Why can I only get average looking women?

Quote: (10-18-2018 11:04 AM)Noir Wrote:  

Life is unfair. The most attractive individuals get the best jobs, are trusted more, are constantly desired and generally get away with most things.

Belgrano nailed it at it’s most basic form; you are not in their league.

MDP above also makes a super valid point about the objectivity of rating women. For me, it’s all about behavior as beautiful women are dime a dozen and a lot of this is by virtue of how many other guys wanna fuck the girl in question.

My thoughts on this might deviate from the posters above and I will provide some context for where I am coming from. This is what Tyler from RSD wrote, 15 years ago, when he wrote about the secret society.

This is written for communicating desire and evoking love from a top woman, not just for OP but for all lurkers who are feeling down on themselves. You can fuck a hot woman, sure, it takes some booze, some game and decent logistics. Then it’s just %s.

I am talking about her crying while you fuck her, tears of joy as she tells you she loves you, 3-4 weeks in.

I only came to the acceptance, this year, that my SMV is high and I have less need for game. It’s more as a framework to guide interactions to where I want them to go.

Since April 2018, using a 6 month period, I have interacted, discussed and flirted with more above-average looking women than before. This means 7s and above but I usually focus on 8s and above.

What changed? I am the happiest I have ever been in my whole life and trust me, I have been through shit. That shit gave me perspective.

Traveling gave me perspective. Surrounding myself with ultra successful individuals gave me perspective. Skype calls with certain members here gave me reference points.

I was you. I decided to learn game in 2005 and would be a teenager in a coffee shop with 35 and 45 year old divorcees, sharing notes on Mystery Method and the game. My mom would drop me off at a coffee shop thinking I was meeting my school mates and I was meeting grown ass men with kids my age, discussing how to fuck women. I wasted time and I gained time by experimenting but I missed the forest for the trees.

I was focused on the magic pill and not the essence of being a man and targeting the #1 thing women want, a man who is a man in every meaning of the word and being able to provide SELF ESTEEM to women.

Hot women will look at you and think, what the fuck can you offer me?

Refer to the first paragraph. Hot people have everything. Rich people get endorsements for everything, in an ironic way. Hot people are offered everything on a platter by virtue of having good genes. When you stop rewarding this shit, you differentiate yourself.

You NEED TO BE TOP SMV AND HOT. At least attempting to maximize this and communicate your efforts, indirectly.

Hot women want self-esteem because that's fucking scarce for women of all creeds, ages, shapes and sizes.

I reward this by proxy of behaviour, not looks and this is what sets me apart.

Life is fucking great man, accept it and it's yours to take. I am confident enough to say this and I smile as I type this.

The happiness I have now is infectious and communicates the #1 thing - outcome independence which in turn sparks curiosity in the finest women who are used to men throwing themselves at them. They start to hope, you are THE man and can provide this for them in the shape of feel good endorphins, pride and self-esteem.

I maintain this by hitting the gym regularly and aiming to be the best version of myself.

I am fortunate that I live in a city which has many beautiful PEOPLE in handfuls (RVF posters who have visited me here will attest to this) and as such it’s motivated me to become a 10 myself. To others it may not seem so but this is my belief and this is what is communicated to women. I finally permitted myself by not withholding it.
The guys I am up against are good looking. The women I aim for are world class. I regularly go out with a model 9. He is in Milan this weekend for a photoshoot. I still pull more dimes than he does because of my confidence.

I am handsome and this may put you off. You might use it as an excuse to invalidate my points. That’s your problem. It was mine for a long time until I had gay guys and straight women check me out, stare at me and enter my perimeter. I accepted I am hot and that I worked for it. The game came before the looks were refined.

It might shatter your ideology that attraction to women is a dimmer switch, not a light switch. It's not on and off. You are hot and that may get you on their radar. Your confidence and ability to channel this is what really sets you apart.

As a thought experiment, I would like to deconstruct what I believe works for me.

For the theme of this post:

Female beauty levels discussed: 8s and above; women I have both hooked up with and not hooked up. I choose a mix because the ones who you have hooked up have a choice-supportive bias (the opposite of buyers remorse). I like to be balanced in my analysis.

How I know them: A mix of cold approach, social circle, networking and convenience game (visiting places over a prolonged period of time). Girlfriends friends' (who are all dimes as they are natural killers; if you boys are reading this, you know who you are).

Duration of knowing them: Some examples are on a short-time frame (a few hours and direct). Some are through social circles (2-4 years). Others are professional connections who have opened up over drinks or through networking arrangements where we would come into interaction intermittently.

How did I develop myself: By being in a 3.5 year relationship where I didn’t worry about pussy and channeled my energy into improving every other aspect of my life. You can spend time chasing tail or invest time in building an empire.

I built it for a woman and ended up maintaining it for myself.

Lets dive in.

These are comments from 8s I have received and I spend a lot of time with women of this calibre who are very down to earth. They bring weed over, bake cakes for us (my mate and myself) and will come cook from time to time. We will play board games for fun, go to markets and they generally add a feminine vibe to our already masculine, energetic group. We will party together and have good times because we friendzoned them to open new pools of women. This is what I do and works and perhaps it may resonate with you, this is my default behavior with ANY woman I find attractive, regardless of how hot she is. I don’t change my behavior. I am constant and they adapt to me.

Feel free to refer through my post history for more examples specifically with access to these women. I write this assuming you have access and this is by virtue of being interesting, offering value, having a social circle and understanding that your reputation is #1. I am oldschool like that but acknowledge that social media is a prop for reputation too (first and last time I will bring up social media before you harpies latch on to this).

“You have an interesting look about you”
“You don’t look like any other man I have seen here”
“I am glad you don’t look like a fuckboy”
“Where are you from?”
“Oh I know who you are”


Interesting look - standing out - being memorable
- Slightly incongruent, sparks curiosity
- Handsome, chiseled face, strong jawline, tidy beard
- Well dressed (GQ, stylish) yet bad boy look/smoking
- Confident body language, holding eye contact, forcing IOIs (nodding, waving; essentially acknowledging their presence and rewarding their curiosity)
- I don’t fuck with tattoos, trends and all that shit. I look like I own a Range Rover yet I bust up a chat with the janitor at the bar to discuss football. I will tip 30% when I arrive yet tell the waiter to leave us alone when we are connecting.


Social circle game on point
- Pre-selection, reputation and generally girls knowing that you’re a top guy. This is long term and a reward of you being fun to be around.


“I can tell from the way you dance, that you know how to lead”
“You move with purpose”
“There’s just something about you that I find sexy”


Providing tools to fill in the gaps for them to consider you sexy
- Manly, smooth voice
- You can dance, in a sexy way which communicates masculinity
- Fit body (with clothes on, keeps mystery)
- The look that communicates sexy-ness – refer to VincentVinturi’s Ryan Gosling eye game thread
- Pre-selection – going out with hot women, sparking the curiosity from above
- Basically having your non-verbals on point

Rewarding this curiosity by being a top man
- You fuck her better than any other man and instill the seeds that you are irreplaceable in this manner. 50 shades of grey shit, whatever you wanna call it
- You make her feel protected through acts of chivalry e.g. you walk on the road-side of the sidewalk; you open doors; you pull out her chair
- You are subtly dominant when you are seen together. Arm over her, you grab her by the neck when she leans in, you casually smack her arse and are playful yet in control
- You fit the stereotype of a sexy man. In charge, reliable, make her feel safe etc. – literally a man.


“You lead a more fulfilling life than anyone else I know”
“The sexiest thing about you is your ambition”
“I admire the way you make me feel. Respected and wanted”
“I like the fact that I don’t need to make decisions around you”


Ability to lead the interactions
- You are in control but let her feel in control from time to time

Ability to elicit good emotions (rewarding their curiosity)
- Having a rich life and being able to tell good stories (Toastmasters helps with this)
- Confident to not rely on canned lines and instead, identifying what resonates with them and expressing this in a genuine manner. You sexualize this with your non-verbals. To further explain this, I use my verbals to showcase my curiosity, authenticity and build comfort. I use my non-verbals to attract.

Communicating your drive
- Your comfort with women is there but your disregard for their opinions (negative) shows that they are not your purpose. You balance this with positive reinforcement for most of their positive opinions and balance this with being cheeky, flirting and keeping them on their toes

You are unpredictable
- Less about mood swings and more about your schedule and how you operate. Nothing is set in stone because your life has so much shit going on

You are able to give them the #1 gift -> self-esteem; you make them feel good and you are on their mind when you aren't around
- This is the most crucial, the best women want to be seen with the best men. They know 100s of men want them but they want 100s of women to want YOU. You fucked all these women because they wanted validation that they are hot/desired. Well on a macro level, this is what every woman wants. When you communicate that desire, that’s their ‘fuck you’ to the rest of the women. “I have Noir, who do you have? You want Noir, but he is mine”
- They think about you all the time because you're impressionable. We fall in love in the absence of others. This is why I don't care about my response times and shit. I am busy 24/7 and fit them in my schedule but when I am with them, I am 110%. I wrote somewhere that I fall in love all the time. I do, I lust for them whenever I am with them.


So why did I write this whole blurb? Chances are you do this with the 6s and 7s you speak of. We all do this. We are all as confident as our familiarity of the situation. Around hotter women, we stumble. Either by lack of experience or by our own drawbacks.

Problem #1 – you are communicating that your judgment is based off her looks, not her behavior

This is the root of pedestalization and tells me you are hindering your progress with hotter women. They are rejecting this because its scarce and you are not used to hot women. They won’t open to you because they don’t believe you can handle them. You won't buy a Ferrari to drive it like a Prius.

Problem #2 – you think this should be easier than what it is

It’s not. It’s fucking hard if this is all you focus on. If you focus on improving your life and leading a rich, fulfilling and rewarding one then the top women will come to you. You get what you put out there. You reap the rewards of what you put in. As men, we feel the best when we are succeeding. The catch 22 is that you get the best women when you succeed elsewhere and that translates in to confidence. Prioritize, be patient and take control.
Figure out where this works for you. Refer to some of my other posts.

Problem #3 – You are average in comparison to your competition.
Again, I’ll throw out the Abidjan vs Monaco or Bucharest vs Miami example. You gotta be killing it to even be noticed. It’s a mix of girls noticing that you are valuable and on top of your shit + the confidence and lifestyle this provides for you to bounce off.

The main issue with problem #3 is that you communicate your mediocrity as a response to your own low self-esteem and lack of confidence. This is why bootcamps and shit emphasize believing you are a 10/10 and 'getting into state'. This is the hack of what I discuss above.


Flux touches upon a theme of my post. You got to be on top of it for you to hold down a woman of this calibre.

I am currently dating a girl who I would consider an 8, some would consider a 9. She is 5’8, I am 5’9. Blonde, perfect body and her personality is a 10/10. 5 years younger. The type that every person looks at when she enters the room. The type that my ex-girlfriends would jump out of the window if they saw us together.

I know guys are trying to DM her constantly, trying to flirt with her when I am not around etc. and I am comfortable with that because she can handle herself. Last night, we were having some drinks, waiting for some friends and she mentioned how 2 guys I know were messaging her and she just stopped responding to them.

I told her it’s fine, I had 4 girls do the same in the past week, after months and months. May 30th, July 3rd, July 9th and August 23rd and dated it for her. It’s a game recognize game and you will have shit tests here and there, it’s completely normal.

Can you infer the traits which are important by reading the above? Can you recognize the typical female behaviour of attraction? Guys complain about shit tests. To me that's feedback I am doing it right because she believes I am a fucking 10 but wants the feedback in real time because she is in disbelief that I descended from the heavens to grace her nubile little soul.

All of this is nothing, I am bulletproof because she knows my purpose is my purpose. I was on the journey before I met her and will be after her; hence the ambition being very attractive.

I can write a post on keeping these women around. I can write 500 posts on getting them. I can try and resurrect my post from the LTR thread (RIP) dissecting all of this but for brevity, let me distill the numerous key points here, off the top of my head:

- Be your best self and have a purpose in life.
- Know when to be fun, when to be sexy and when to be serious
- Never take things seriously, problems are never problems but always be firm if necessary
- Always smile and disarm people
- Always provide a good time
- Treat people like it’s your birthday party
- Give without expecting
- Leave people better off than you find them
- Share the value you have
- Maximize your looks and wealth
- Be anal about who you spend your time with and are seen with
- Know that your #1 goal in life is to reach your potential and you define that
- Define it now and stop being in a limbo


Print out the above if you need. Refer to my post on self-confidence or NLP or any of my other posts where I have drilled this in to other members.

Accept yourself, this is the first day of the best part of your life and it only gets better.

I tried to keep this brief, especially with the memorable quotes because this should suffice in getting the message across.

If you want some resources too, then go for it:

Books
How to Win Friends and Influence People
The Power of Now
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
Influence (Cialdini)
Maximum Achievement (Brian Tracy) -> this is the best book I have read, hands down. I am not sure if it was Investment Bro or someone else who mentioned this.

Misc
Any NLP from my previous posts such as:
Paul McKenna - Instant Confidence
Hypnotica - Sphinx of Imagination

Jordan Peterson's Self Authoring Program
Framing courses (psychology)
Toastmasters
Latin dancing
Boxing (some guys do BJJ and I heard great things about this too but never tried it)

I could add a few more but it would be superfluous. Identify the themes and the differentiators in this list.

Surround yourself with great, happy and successful individuals.
Exercise daily.
Fix your diet.
Increase your bankroll.
Spend time with your family and practice loving unconditionally.


I wish you all the best.

I might write a post on how to get women to fall in love with you but that's problematic for most who can't guide that energy.

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#55

Why can I only get average looking women?

Quote: (10-11-2018 04:13 AM)personperson Wrote:  

My whole life, as long as I can remember since being about 11 years old, i've only ever received genuine interest from girls who are mediocre, average looking. im tall, decent looking, intelligent, confident and comfortable in social situations, no major personality or physical flaws etc...game all the time, approach reguarly, am early 30s now, and I am about to give up.

You have to show higher value.
ways to do this.

Make sure you have a cool life that is documented on Instagram or other social medias This can be faked oviously so itll be easier for you to do this

approach hot woman only.
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#56

Why can I only get average looking women?

I have the same problem.
I'm a normal looking dude, I've got money, I'm super confident and well-educated.
Yet I can only get normal looking girls!
I've never gotten anything above a 7.
My last girlfriend was a 6, the previous one was a 6.5.
All I want is a solid 8 or perhaps a 9.
I'm not even asking for a 10 (even though it would be nice) and I don't know what to do.
I feel like I deserve something better than what I have.
My current girlfriend is a 5.5 and every time I look at her I get kind of angry, because she's all I get to have.
I love her and all but unless she magically turns into a 7 any time soon, I will have to leave her.
I'm not a superficial person, but girls below 6 are just humiliating for me at this point.
Any advice?
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#57

Why can I only get average looking women?

^ honestly it's not possible to give advice without knowing you. You're just going to have to take an objective look at yourself including your game, looks and logistics and try and see if there's any areas you can improve on (game is probably the most important, and it's free, just takes massive practice). The most important thing though is to approach and try your luck every time you see a top tier girl. Some people aren't doing this, and yet moan about the quality they're getting.
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#58

Why can I only get average looking women?

Quote: (10-21-2018 01:44 PM)Kieran Wrote:  

^ honestly it's not possible to give advice without knowing you. You're just going to have to take an objective look at yourself including your game, looks and logistics and try and see if there's any areas you can improve on (game is probably the most important, and it's free, just takes massive practice). The most important thing though is to approach and try your luck every time you see a top tier girl. Some people aren't doing this, and yet moan about the quality they're getting.

True, true. I know I get lazy from having 6 & 7's constantly chase after me. My DM's & texts are full of bishes always wanting see me, go out, or trying to catch. It's likely inhibited my desire chase and/or hunt dimes. [Image: confused.gif]
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