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Too high expectations when traveling
#1

Too high expectations when traveling

So I'm in Brazil.
First time here. Already been here a few days. Amazonas.
I already was with a 19 years old beauty from tinder.
She was like 7+.
But I just don't understand why am I frustrated.
I was hoping to be with a different girl every day. When it doesn't happen I feel a little bit bored and sad.
I already banged a very decent girl.
Why doesn't it fill me?
Is it turning out to be an addiction?

Hope to get your experience about your expectations while traveling and how you manage them.

Cheers
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#2

Too high expectations when traveling

Been thinking about this lately. Hooking up can indeed get addictive. You have to remember that what you’re doing as a player is not really normal behavior for most other human adults. Plus when you’re alone you feel like something is missing. That’s kinda the hallmark of an addiction.

The other annoying thing is that if you’ve made the effort to max out your looks, money, etc you end up feeling like most women (even really hot ones) are a complete fucking waste of your time. Most chicks I meet seem lazy and boring as fuck.

Yet their attitudes are like they’re something special and entitled to a celebrity boyfriend. Go to gym and read books? I’m special. I don’t need to do that! Then I’m standing there pretending like oh no really you seem cool let’s chat. When on the inside I’m really dying and thinking about all the other shit I’d rather be doing with my life.

Basically you need to have some male friends and hobbies. When you’re traveling alone those two things are often missing. Personally I can’t just travel for pussy. It’s never my main focus.

That said, with all the myriad destinations in the world it’s still easy to choose places where I get a bump in SMV, the women have better attitudes, etc.

Brazil specifically I was pretty disappointed in the quality. There are hot women there. But Brazilians are a diverse group. Most of the girls I encountered were WNBs. To have any abundance you’d really have to be in the high end clubbing/entertainment industry or the right social circles.
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#3

Too high expectations when traveling

I don't think its an addiction. What you described is a common psychology phenomenon, just applied to sex.
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#4

Too high expectations when traveling

Yes I guess male friends are the way to go. Then you can also go out with them looking for girls. It's just that when traveling for a short period of of time. It isn't always that easy to find appropriate male wings.

But yeah good point
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#5

Too high expectations when traveling

Mmm there’s some addiction here. Dude banged a hot girl and is feeling nothing. Whether or not that’s a bad thing is a matter of opinion.

So long as you’re aware of the reasons why and how to not let it interfere with your mental health or daily activities then I think it’s not a big deal.

Most people at the top get a bit bored and unfulfilled if they don’t constantly challenge themselves with new things.
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#6

Too high expectations when traveling

On the inside I'm dying hahahaha you got the words out of my mouth
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#7

Too high expectations when traveling

Yeah you’ll have a hard time traveling solo unless you’re into drunk guy party mode and stay in hostels. And still most guys make a terrible wing. Even worse the hostel groups tend to turn into large wolf packs. Ugh.

Maybe you can develop some MGTOW habits? That’s basically doing your own thing. Big difference going MGTOW from a position of strength and boredom with women instead of the way most men do it which is out of frustration and total lack of pussy.
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#8

Too high expectations when traveling

You are answering the question for yourself. Stop worrying about getting laid and try to enjoy yourself. You should only have sex with a girl if you really want to. Nobody cares about your notch count, after you have been with a few girls the sooner you forget that shit the better.

I for one am embarrassed that I have slept with so many girls and yet had relatively few great moments. Over the last few years I have been improving a bit and been a lot happier for it, still have a ways to go though.
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#9

Too high expectations when traveling

Bro you are showing classic signs of addiction, I think there are a lot of sex addicts on this forum. Many guys think we just like to practice game and travel but in reality its nothing more than fulfilling a sex addiction.
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#10

Too high expectations when traveling

Quote: (09-29-2018 03:30 PM)Suskind Wrote:  

I was hoping to be with a different girl every day. When it doesn't happen I feel a little bit bored and sad.

Being with a different girl every day is going to take a lot of effort anywhere in the world, even in so called pussy paradises. Depending on your looks and game it may not take a lot of effort in terms of pulling them, but it will take a lot of effort managing a harem, going through the motions of boring as hell first dates on a daily basis, dealing with flakes, drama, etc. etc.

This stuff almost becomes like a full time job. And once a new girl a day becomes your new standard, then what? 2 or 3 new girls a day? Higher quality? (keep in mind higher quality will take even more effort).

The point I'm trying to make is that this boredom you describe will never disappear. You'll never be satisfied with the quality or quantity you are pulling and always want more and better. One solution is indeed to find friends, set up an online business to keep you busy, spend time on hobbies, basically stuff that ensures chasing girls isnt your primary focus (I'm not saying to stop doing it altogether).

Having said that, I have been on this never ending mission to get laid as much as possible myself too. I think I just needed to experience it and get it out of my system. Now, I much rather spend quality time with a great girl.
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#11

Too high expectations when traveling

You do not need to ask if you have banged enough [email protected] in your travels, if you are asking, you have not banged enough yet .... eventually you will know and Begin planning your vacations around other activities ... continue as previously briefed.... Bang away
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#12

Too high expectations when traveling

It’s an insidious problem. It’s not so simple as banging away until you’re burned out. That’s what will end up happening. But there’s more going on psychologically. With regard to time management and other practical trade offs you can really lose out on cultural experiences.

One of the weird things about traveling is you can’t really date anyone seriously, but you can still spend a lot of time with girls and even pair bond. Or you can just hookup. There’s a lot of complex emotions. It’s good you’re asking questions about it.

The conclusion most guys come to is that it’s better to focus on quality verse quantity. However that has more to do with burnout and boredom. It is kinda silly to devote much effort to getting what will inevitably amount to little more than a fling. I know plenty of male 9s who had everything going for them by would still bang 5s and 6s because all they cared about was getting their rocks off with as little effort as possible.
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#13

Too high expectations when traveling

Quote: (09-29-2018 09:59 PM)Winston Wolfe Wrote:  

Quote: (09-29-2018 03:30 PM)Suskind Wrote:  

I was hoping to be with a different girl every day. When it doesn't happen I feel a little bit bored and sad.

Being with a different girl every day is going to take a lot of effort anywhere in the world, even in so called pussy paradises. Depending on your looks and game it may not take a lot of effort in terms of pulling them, but it will take a lot of effort managing a harem, going through the motions of boring as hell first dates on a daily basis, dealing with flakes, drama, etc. etc.

This stuff almost becomes like a full time job. And once a new girl a day becomes your new standard, then what? 2 or 3 new girls a day? Higher quality? (keep in mind higher quality will take even more effort).

The point I'm trying to make is that this boredom you describe will never disappear. You'll never be satisfied with the quality or quantity you are pulling and always want more and better. One solution is indeed to find friends, set up an online business to keep you busy, spend time on hobbies, basically stuff that ensures chasing girls isnt your primary focus (I'm not saying to stop doing it altogether).

Having said that, I have been on this never ending mission to get laid as much as possible myself too. I think I just needed to experience it and get it out of my system. Now, I much rather spend quality time with a great girl.

There is a dilemma here.
Most of the cool places in the world where one can travel for the sake of travel are not women oriented. You will just find yourself discovering new cool places that you haven't visited before but probably wouldn't bang.
I think most guys who go to pussy paradises mainly go in order to focus on notch count.
Maybe the conclusion is that the healthy way to travel is to go for 3 months at least in each new place you go to. that way you don't have any rush or pressure to get yourself a few lays. that way you can start focus more on social circle, your regular hobbies, traveling etc.
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#14

Too high expectations when traveling

Quote: (09-29-2018 03:30 PM)Suskind Wrote:  

So I'm in Brazil.
First time here. Already been here a few days. Amazonas.
I already was with a 19 years old beauty from tinder.
She was like 7+.
But I just don't understand why am I frustrated.
I was hoping to be with a different girl every day. When it doesn't happen I feel a little bit bored and sad.
I already banged a very decent girl.
Why doesn't it fill me?
Is it turning out to be an addiction?

Hope to get your experience about your expectations while traveling and how you manage them.

Cheers

How does your tinder profile look?
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#15

Too high expectations when traveling

A few of my thoughts without any particular order.

As a man i feel good with myself when doing productive activities such as working and studying. That way i feel i invest in my future income, always thriving to be more competent financially in the future. When traveling i always put work and study aside. With work it's obvious for me since i don't have an online thing going for me. I'm always location dependent. Maybe i should start invest time in researching how to have online business going for me. With study there's no excuse.

Traveling for a short period of time sucks. You just don't have the time to really know the culture and people. I had the opportunity to live outside of my country working in another country and it was a great experience.

There comes an age when dating girls for quantity isn't satisfying anymore. Then the next step would be to enter to a serious relationship with someone. that's not a bad thing for me. Or as others have mentioned, Quality not Quantity.
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#16

Too high expectations when traveling

Yeah 3 months is a smart play. Most places allow you 2-3 months uninterrupted on a tourist visa.

My big issue with this is that you start to run out of new things to do pretty quickly in most cities. The extra time still isn’t enough to really get much of a “permanent” social circle or land a substantially hotter girl. Letting your homebase there sit empty while you travel around the region is expensive and inconvenient.
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Too high expectations when traveling

Quote: (09-30-2018 09:14 AM)Choo Choo Train Wrote:  

Yeah 3 months is a smart play. Most places allow you 2-3 months uninterrupted on a tourist visa.

My big issue with this is that you start to run out of new things to do pretty quickly in most cities. The extra time still isn’t enough to really get much of a “permanent” social circle or land a substantially hotter girl. Letting your homebase there sit empty while you travel around the region is expensive and inconvenient.

Hence the Location independent business
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#18

Too high expectations when traveling

Quote: (09-29-2018 03:30 PM)Suskind Wrote:  

Why doesn't it fill me?
The hedonic treadmill, also known as hedonic adaptation, is the observed tendency of humans to quickly return to a relatively stable level of happiness despite major positive or negative events or life changes. According to this theory, as a person slays more and/or more beautiful girls, the expectations and desires rise in tandem, which results in no permanent gain in happiness.

Quote: (09-29-2018 03:30 PM)Suskind Wrote:  

Is it turning out to be an addiction?
Technically yes, but the fact that you are conscientious of this shows that you possess the awareness and mental fortitude for this addiction not to become a life destroying problem, in the long-term. You're just living the playboy lifestyle, enjoying ripe puss puss and addicted to something which is amazing [Image: smile.gif]

Quote: (09-29-2018 03:30 PM)Suskind Wrote:  

Hope to get your experience about your expectations while traveling and how you manage them.
I completely relate to what you're saying, and it describes me pretty well to be honest [Image: icon_lol.gif]

Here's Roosh's take on it:



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#19

Too high expectations when traveling

Roosh's take on it is exactly what I feel. I guess the chase is over for me too.
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#20

Too high expectations when traveling

Quote: (09-29-2018 09:30 PM)Axel99 Wrote:  

I think there are a lot of sex addicts on this forum.

THIS.
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#21

Too high expectations when traveling

I don't think expectations when traveling specifically is your problem. I think your problem is that you may be ending your full quantity stage for hookups and may be seeking more quality or a more serious relationship with a girl. This is normal and admittedly, I think I'm crossing this road myself at the moment. It's complicated. Sex is a biological need and on the hierarchy of needs, it is listed on the bottom of the pyramid as essential for survival. Yet, it doesn't mean every time you find a new girl to have sex with that you're going to enjoy it. If anything, sometimes it just takes a monkey off your back.

I've been back in America for about a year since going to pussy paradises for a few months. When I first got back, I hated being here, was pretty bitter and resentful, and couldn't wait to hop back on the plane to SEA. Now that time has passed and I ended a dry streak, it made me realize there's other things in life besides pussy. Don't get me wrong, I think it's still good to have sex, but I don't find myself looking for it every day like I was in SEA or when I first came back to the states. I put some time into my work, family and friends, plus other hobbies and interests. I think combining these pieces for the puzzle is probably the closest key to sentimental happiness there is.

So, what I'd suggest for OP is to maybe travel somewhere that has other things to offer besides girls, maybe only go to a pussy paradise a couple months a year to let off some steam, or go back home and spend some quality time with loved ones and/or close friends. Also, start being a little more picky about who you sleep with. Go after quality. I need to follow my own advice on this one lol.

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#22

Too high expectations when traveling

Great words.
Will focus on quality today and let you guys know if anything pops up.
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