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03-11-2015, 08:05 AM
^ Social status is a big thing in Asia and it's possible she was somehow using you to gain face/status in the eyes of someone else somehow, or create jealousy. It seems a bit too blatant for that though.
To be honest, she probably does like you. It could be that she was keen but clammed up for a number of other reasons.
I've been with girls in Asia who have been very into me but hot/cold and cagey and secretive. More often than not I've found out they're somehow attached, either married or there's some "provider" / long-term local interest on the scene.
Especially in countries like VN where hot girls are very much locked down and "bought-and-paid-for" by local guys with means.
My sense is she's keen for you but that "someone" is on their radar again. Perhaps some older provider-type dude who she thought was a lost cause but is now interested in her again and she's seeing $$$-signs. Could well be something like that.
Just play it patient, discreet, gently but firmly persistent. Re-initiate from time to time. She'll be hot, cold or indifferent... at a time she's hot, you can close.
If you do suspect she has a sponsor though, proceed with caution.
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03-11-2015, 08:32 PM
Cody, I'd say just be calmly persistent and reinitiate every once in a while. Push hard for a bit, insisting, and if she doesn't bite, then leave it a while. Try again in 1.5-2 weeks, etc. Sooner or later you'll catch her at a time when she's keen for a hookup.
Dont explicitly mention anything about other guys (or your other girls) or anything. Things must go unmentioned in those cultures.
But you could maybe throw out something to imply that you get it. "What you do or who you see on your own time is your business, no worries. Anyway, I wanna see you... come meet me for a drink tonight..." - I dunno something with that vibe.
Remember it's probably not about you. She's not concerned about whether *you* care about her seeing other guy(s), she's concerned about actually landing the provider, and not doing anything to jeopardise that. Sometimes you just have to try again later, either when she's lost the catch, or got it and is getting bored.
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09-20-2015, 03:15 PM
[/quote] Vietnamese are said by many other Southeast Asians to be the most aggressive in the region. On multiple levels. And this a region already known for people who go from zero to batshit crazy in the blink of an eye. [/quote]
I spend a lot of time in Thailand, and have to say, don't let the warm, friendly, smiling Thai front fool you. If you push hard enough, and act an idiot, you will regret it.
I have seen many a drunk asshole think he was being a big man in a little bar, in a side Soi, feeling brave at the lack of obvious security. It takes a lot to get them in volved, but when they do, they go all the way on you.
You won't get 100m away before you get a proper lesson in Mua Thai from half a dozen hard ass local maffia. The bars all chip them some protection money, and they keep the peace.
If you are cool, pay your bill, show respect you will never meet them. Its a great system.
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09-28-2018, 10:36 AM
Quote: (10-23-2014 11:39 AM)Papi Rico Wrote:
I was very well acquainted with and smashed several Hanoi transplants in Saigon. Compared to native Saigonese, they tended to sweet talk, were considerably bigger drama queens, and would get very aggressive when I didn't pick up a call, cancelled a date, etc. On the positive side, they all seemed to be extremely well-connected, and were either running or consulting for multiple businesses. They are general go-getters compared to the more laid-back (dare I say lazy) Saigonese.
Again, these differences, in my subjective experience, were trivial when I ventured out the Mekong delta, Central coast, and Highlands. The girls there are traditional in every sense of the word, and require a completely different approach.
Papi Rico, could you name a few cities where the girls are traditional? Is Da Lat one of them? Thank you.
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09-28-2018, 11:02 PM
Vietnam is still an extremely traditional society. Even in Saigon, basically outside nightlife in District 1, women are very traditional and conservative with their values. Family and honor matter in Vietnam.
There's no need to venture off to true third and fourth tier living such as Da Lat, Hue, or Can Tho in search of traditional women. You'd be so bored and such a fish out of water that you'd be done with the place before you even got started.
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09-29-2018, 07:06 AM
I've been in 2nd Tier Vietnam for the last 10 months.
Language is a real issue here.
Here the local 20 something girls in the main live with their family, have a curfew, are virgins until marriage.
The ones who date foreigners date soy boy expat Tefl teachers who have LTRs with them based on hand jobs, finger bashing and the occasional blow job. This after months of soy boy putting up with their daily emotional dramas and after their having been flown around the world to Singapore, Malaysia, London to meet soy boys family etc.
The club thots will jump on anyones dick but they are a small sub set with miles and miles on the clock of STD ridden alcoholic middle aged expats that you will occasionally see once in a blue moon in daylight hours outside of a bar or brothel. Great bodies tho' like all Viet chicks. (The thots, not the middle aged expats.)
There are actually higher status (looks wise) model type girls that will fuck and are all about Gucci, Prada, Louis Vuitton ( Ell Wee) .
Bear in mind though that whilst their make-work job in the bank pays them peanuts they are not the side piece of their manager, they are instead one of the side pieces of the OWNER of the bank --- who pays them $1000 a month allowance as well as paying their aspirational apartment's rent and buying them lots of shiny clothes, phones, shoes etc.
The guys these girls date may be 5'4" small town heroes but they have their own empires and are worth a fortune.
One of the hacks I have found here is that the girls with the scratchy English are more excited and keener to be around you than the ones that already have fluent English down. Draw your own conclusions as to why that is.
I'm sure that with the right attitude and a bit of luck people can have a great time with the ladies in the provinces, but with the same attitude and luck the results will be a whole lot better in the cities and in the meantime its good to be aware of the pitfalls out here.