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Anyone else get pulled in by the allure of drugs?
#26

Anyone else get pulled in by the allure of drugs?

I was addicted to some shit a while back and recently got back into it

the two things I keep reminding myself are:

1) Life is such a beautiful thing. Stare at yourself in the mirror. Realize how awesome it is to be alive and how important it is to take care of your body - because your body deserves to be taken care of it - it's such a beautiful thing. The fact that you are here, now, living as a human creature is such an awesome thing and you deserve to respect your body and take care of it. After all, it is you.

2) What you put into your body now, whether it be drugs, alcohol, or whatever, may not harm you now, but it will harm you in the future. It's just hard to see the future cost of something because it will not affect you now.

3) The best way I have avoided my addiction is simply to stay away from the kind of environment that makes it happen. That may include certain situations, friends, etc. Yes, you may think you have all the discipline in the world, but it may be a lot harder when the temptation is there and you're in an environment that makes it easily happen
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#27

Anyone else get pulled in by the allure of drugs?

This JRE episode with Steve-O helped me understand addiction a lot better.




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#28

Anyone else get pulled in by the allure of drugs?

Drugs and alcohol = over-rated. If you must, use them as a tool not as a goal.

Aiming to get fucked up is a shit goal.

Using drugs for temporary performance enhancement to supplement or expand your natural skills and abilities is a tool.

Drinking to get fucked up just to be fucked up is stupid and possibly dangerous.

Having a glass or two to break the ice and get social is a good tool.

Shooting up H is stupid...

I could go on...

If you're going to use something "hard", research it extensively and examine why you're doing it and how it will help you and how it can fuck you up!
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#29

Anyone else get pulled in by the allure of drugs?

When I was young, about 13-14, I got the idea that smoking weed was cool, because I thought it would increase my status among people that I had identified as "my people", i.e. the late 90s early 00s metal scene. I gave up when most people I knew were just starting, at 17.

To start with it was really fun. I had some of the best times of my life, but it was soon eroded to a generally negative experience. So I nipped it in the bud and have never been back or on to other drugs.

I also did quite a lot of drinking at around 14-15, but once it was fun, that was it.

I always hear that the only reason people start with drugs is because of some mental issues, abuse etc. But it's definitely not the case. I just thought it was cool. When it stopped being so, I ended it.

On the other hand, many people I know went into drugs, mostly just weed, hard, for about 10 years. Some are still there. The reason they got stuck there is because they do have certain mental problems, which the weed has cemented and stuck them in.

Many people go through considerable turmoil in their late teens. This is turmoil that many get through and come out on the other side with some wisdom. But those who go into drugs don't deal with their problems because the drugs disable it. I'd liken it to some low status guy, who plays games at home all day, but sees himself as quite smart and important as a result. I've come a cross a few of these. 4Chan is full of them. I offered a clinically obese one an entry level job that he could have used as a starting block. But he discarded the offer as it was below the minimum entry point his faux self-importance has created. He rejected it due to the faux sense of importance, which he used to hide from himself that he is the lowest of the low. Dealing with that would be too much to handle, which the mental illusion of self importance protects. Drugs are somewhat similar, they are a mechanism through which people can ignore their problems.

If you are having long-term drug problems it's probably because of something you're hiding from. I think one of the best ways to get out without even dealing the those problems is doming something to make yourself better, like starting a business, fitness etc.

If you consider mod to late teens, they have all sorts of problem spilling into their previously simpler world: girls don't like them, they don't have enough social status, their penis size, they're fat etc. Those are problems that either have to be dealt with or accepted.
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#30

Anyone else get pulled in by the allure of drugs?

Quote: (09-23-2018 05:39 PM)kinjutsu Wrote:  

You don't have enough hobbies.
You probably have too much free time.
If you're lifting 3-4 times a week, working on a few small business ideas, learning a new language(s) do you really have the time to experiment with drugs?


I imagine some recreational chems are the only way a person can successfully accomplish all that lol
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#31

Anyone else get pulled in by the allure of drugs?

Drugs are a plus in the entertainment department. Same can be said about getting girls. Like Cindi Lauper said, girls just wanna have fun and having the right drug can be a plus compared to money or looks. Any loser can use a day’s wage to buy a bottle of alcohol inside a nightclub. Few have the “right” drug and girls love novelty.

Give MDMA to a girl and her eyes will look like a casino slot machine when you bang her.
With LSD you can drink like a sailor and don’t feel bad (vomit/headache/etc), bang for hours with more energy and pleasure.

I can list a bunch of them. I just avoided the ones that are known to be more addictive like cocaine/crack/heroin/etc.

I don’t do drugs anymore (I’m almost 40). Why? I don’t feel like partying till late night and waking up late. Might be responsibilities and lack of energy?

It was a phase. Do I regret it? Not a single day. Would just recommend to stay away from weed since it’s a drug that makes people lethargic. Might work for very few though.
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#32

Anyone else get pulled in by the allure of drugs?

Quote: (09-29-2018 12:21 AM)Crash_Bandicoot Wrote:  

I was addicted to some shit a while back and recently got back into it

the two things I keep reminding myself are:

1) Life is such a beautiful thing. Stare at yourself in the mirror. Realize how awesome it is to be alive and how important it is to take care of your body - because your body deserves to be taken care of it - it's such a beautiful thing. The fact that you are here, now, living as a human creature is such an awesome thing and you deserve to respect your body and take care of it. After all, it is you.

2) What you put into your body now, whether it be drugs, alcohol, or whatever, may not harm you now, but it will harm you in the future. It's just hard to see the future cost of something because it will not affect you now.

3) The best way I have avoided my addiction is simply to stay away from the kind of environment that makes it happen. That may include certain situations, friends, etc. Yes, you may think you have all the discipline in the world, but it may be a lot harder when the temptation is there and you're in an environment that makes it easily happen

This is fantastic advice for trying to overcome any vice. I would only add that, if you fall back into it, don't get too down on yourself, just brush yourself off, learn from your mistakes and start trying to beat it again.

Why do the heathen rage and the people imagine a vain thing? Psalm 2:1 KJV
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#33

Anyone else get pulled in by the allure of drugs?

I finally quit weed a few weeks ago and I feel great. I had been addicted years ago to PCP, amphetamines, painkillers (you name it basically) and was a low-life living like a psychopath.
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#34

Anyone else get pulled in by the allure of drugs?

In my 20s it was more the combined allure of spliffs, take-out from the local taqueria, and World of Warcraft.
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#35

Anyone else get pulled in by the allure of drugs?

I can definitely relate. I've been exploring and thinking more about why I crave drugs and alcohol so often, and my underlying motivations. It's not easy to pinpoint a lot of the time.

Agree strongly with JackinMelbourne about them being useful as tools. Usually in moderation. And with Joost in regards to their value with girls and in social situations. The key again is always moderation. I'm finding that the majority of the time I do them I'm using them as escapes not as entrances, so to speak. If they are being used to connect with people and open doors to positive experiences, they are doing a good job. If they are being used to numb out and avoid your problems, then they're not helping.
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#36

Anyone else get pulled in by the allure of drugs?

The allure of drugs is the pursuit of the magic pill.

Its laziness and fragility of will. Instead of making the lifestyle changes one needs to attain happiness, productivity, or physical fitness - people look for a bottle, vial or powder.

I'm guilty of it myself. I've found every drug to be a short term fix at best. There is no escaping receptor downregulation. And when that happens youre left worse off than you were before. The price of the temporary boost is almost never worth it.
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