Was the first edition of Bang released in 2006 or 2007? 10 year anniversary!
- Clint Barton
Which game book is most relevant in 2016?
Models by Mark Manson
And Aaron Sleazy's stuff.
And Aaron Sleazy's stuff.
[quote] (09-01-2016 09:11 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:
[quote='redbeard' pid='1384593' dateline='1472780174']
- Mystery/Style
- Book called "The Game" comes out
- Tyler has to reinvent - "natural game" becomes the thing
- Pick Up Artist TV Show - makes canned game look good, but horrible.
- Roosh/Roissy/Rollo/(Dal)Rock
- Manosphere
- Current Era - heavy on lifestyle game, travel and logistics.
...
After that, the book should contain:
-Everything from opening to closing
-Just enough biology for guys to understand man vs. woman
-Straight-up techniques
-Basic troubleshooting
-Not too much theory
In my opinion Bang fits this perfectly. As a math type...I'd add Bang PLUS the chart from MM (Attract 1-3, Comfort 1-3, Seduce 1-3). I really like that, and think it's important to think about where you are in the process. Off topic but that chart also relates to sales...you never come in guns blazing and say "BUY THIS RIGHT NOW!" you have to attract the customer, comfort them with testimonials, then seduce them with a discount.
...
You can just swipe 50 chicks and one will swipe you back. Improve your look by dressing better and working out and maybe that drops to 1 out of 20. When shits that easy, what I'm talking about sounds crazy.[/quote]
Nails it.
First: place/geography.
Second: ability to convert and handle logistics smoothly. Getting the rhythm of your vibe and your city for date-to-lay scheduling and pacing.
Third: basic style and being in shape. Capturing these, improving your profile pics etc.
Last: lifestyle game. Improving your overall life which flows back to all of these and your general frame.
In short, boost up your value and be in places where it can be seen--IN HIGH DENSITY. Modern game is definitely focused on travel and technology. (and most 'game' that actually matters is your text game to bridge the gap to meeting).
Recommended reading:
- Tucker Max book 'Mate' isn't at all about game, but 100% theory on sources of value generally. Honestly great for diagnosing easy leaks you might have in your value/presentation/game. Second-to-none for basic 'sexual market value' theory that helps know where to focus your energy on improving.
- Still love 60 years of challenge. Summarizes the philosophy of efficient game and the idea you're mostly just presenting an opportunity for sex quickly. Even if you don't do night game it nicely summarizes the right Tinder mentality, day-game mentality, etc.: you're just pinging to see if there's interest, strongly leading, and expecting 19 of 20 fade away and one can't wait.
- Forums and Tinder location setting to scout out your own SMV. Honestly even within USA a certain type of person may have +- a couple points SMV not to mention certain cities like NYC are just great for short-term dating and single male / single female imbalance generally.
For all the guides/tips on logistics game or 'game', 90% of it is wrong and 99% of it is wrong if applied formulaicly. You just have to get out there and figure out what's right by city, your personality, and types of girls you're closing. Sometimes you luck across someone in the same situation but you should mostly expect to be iterating. What works one place is way too fast, way too slow, way too straightforward, way too winding for another city. Only thing I'd say is meet-up and/or read and speak to guys in the same geography and roughly similar situation generally.
The worst strategy: stay in a bad city and 'learn game' -- the world is so global and communication so instant and girls have so many opportunities you need to be in the best place, optimizing your own value (which online includes how you're presenting), and learning how to close what's easy.
[quote='redbeard' pid='1384593' dateline='1472780174']
- Mystery/Style
- Book called "The Game" comes out
- Tyler has to reinvent - "natural game" becomes the thing
- Pick Up Artist TV Show - makes canned game look good, but horrible.
- Roosh/Roissy/Rollo/(Dal)Rock
- Manosphere
- Current Era - heavy on lifestyle game, travel and logistics.
...
After that, the book should contain:
-Everything from opening to closing
-Just enough biology for guys to understand man vs. woman
-Straight-up techniques
-Basic troubleshooting
-Not too much theory
In my opinion Bang fits this perfectly. As a math type...I'd add Bang PLUS the chart from MM (Attract 1-3, Comfort 1-3, Seduce 1-3). I really like that, and think it's important to think about where you are in the process. Off topic but that chart also relates to sales...you never come in guns blazing and say "BUY THIS RIGHT NOW!" you have to attract the customer, comfort them with testimonials, then seduce them with a discount.
...
You can just swipe 50 chicks and one will swipe you back. Improve your look by dressing better and working out and maybe that drops to 1 out of 20. When shits that easy, what I'm talking about sounds crazy.[/quote]
Nails it.
First: place/geography.
Second: ability to convert and handle logistics smoothly. Getting the rhythm of your vibe and your city for date-to-lay scheduling and pacing.
Third: basic style and being in shape. Capturing these, improving your profile pics etc.
Last: lifestyle game. Improving your overall life which flows back to all of these and your general frame.
In short, boost up your value and be in places where it can be seen--IN HIGH DENSITY. Modern game is definitely focused on travel and technology. (and most 'game' that actually matters is your text game to bridge the gap to meeting).
Recommended reading:
- Tucker Max book 'Mate' isn't at all about game, but 100% theory on sources of value generally. Honestly great for diagnosing easy leaks you might have in your value/presentation/game. Second-to-none for basic 'sexual market value' theory that helps know where to focus your energy on improving.
- Still love 60 years of challenge. Summarizes the philosophy of efficient game and the idea you're mostly just presenting an opportunity for sex quickly. Even if you don't do night game it nicely summarizes the right Tinder mentality, day-game mentality, etc.: you're just pinging to see if there's interest, strongly leading, and expecting 19 of 20 fade away and one can't wait.
- Forums and Tinder location setting to scout out your own SMV. Honestly even within USA a certain type of person may have +- a couple points SMV not to mention certain cities like NYC are just great for short-term dating and single male / single female imbalance generally.
For all the guides/tips on logistics game or 'game', 90% of it is wrong and 99% of it is wrong if applied formulaicly. You just have to get out there and figure out what's right by city, your personality, and types of girls you're closing. Sometimes you luck across someone in the same situation but you should mostly expect to be iterating. What works one place is way too fast, way too slow, way too straightforward, way too winding for another city. Only thing I'd say is meet-up and/or read and speak to guys in the same geography and roughly similar situation generally.
The worst strategy: stay in a bad city and 'learn game' -- the world is so global and communication so instant and girls have so many opportunities you need to be in the best place, optimizing your own value (which online includes how you're presenting), and learning how to close what's easy.
Roosh's Compliment & Cuddle. Not a troll post.
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