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Domestic Violence Gets Evolutionary Explanation
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Domestic Violence Gets Evolutionary Explanation

I've always wondered why domestic violence occurs. It is so prevalent in so many societies across time that it probably has some evolutionary role. Two scientists have sought to address this question. It may offer some insight into the female psyche, and why some (if not most) women are drawn to abusive men.

Understanding the female psyche can aid seduction, of course. My experience suggests nearly all women want a bad boy, but bad boy status is relative. For a very sheltered girl, that might mean merely the fact that you drink. For a woman who's seen it all, maybe only things like BDSM and indeed abuse, can arouse her. Suffice to say, I'm not advocating domestic abuse.

Here is the original scientific paper (PDF). The abstract and press article are quoted below. The author's list of publications is here - some of his other papers look valuable as well.

I haven't read the paper yet in full, nor drawn any of my own conclusions.

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An evolutionary perspective anticipates predictable forms of sexual conflict in human mating relationships. Humans have evolved a psychology of tactical deployment designed to influence a partner's behavior to be closer to the actor's own optimum. Tactics are diverse, ranging from benefit-bestowing to cost-inflicting. We discuss adaptive problems toward which cost-inflicting violent tactics are utilized: mate poachers, sexual infidelity, mate pregnancy by an intrasexual rival, resource infidelity, resource scarcity, mate value discrepancies, stepchildren, relationship termination, and mate reacquisition. Discussion focuses on the context-dependence of intimate partner violence, the costs of perpetrating violent tactics, the underlying psychology of aggressors, the manipulated psychology of victims, and co-evolved defenses to prevent intimate partner violence and to minimize its costs when it occurs.

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What can evolution tell us about domestic violence? Two researchers in the US suggest such violence has ancient origins and that establishing evolution's role could help to better identify those at risk. Others argue that the research makes simplistic assumptions, and warn that some people will interpret the research as an excuse for violence.

Each year more than 500,000 women in the US alone report to the police violent attacks by current or former male partners. There is a reason why domestic violence is so widespread, says David Buss, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Texas in Austin: it carries a selective advantage, tied with reproductive success. In other words, men who are violent are trying to make sure that their partner has his child and not another man's.

Buss has previously suggested that jealousy is an adaptation to keep couples together.

"There are very predictable circumstances in which violence occurs," says Buss. "For instance, with the threat of sexual infidelity or the threat of relationship termination."

Buss and his colleague Joshua Duntley at the Richard Stockton College of New Jersey in Galloway say that several studies support the link between violence and reproductive success.

For instance, a small study of 65 pregnant women in North Carolina found that those whose partners attacked them were more likely to be carrying another man's child (Journal of Family Violence, vol 19, p 201). Another study involved quizzing 8000 women in Canada about their partners. Some 14 per cent of those with a history of domestic violence agreed that their partner "is jealous and doesn't want you to talk to other men" – less than 1 per cent of women who experienced no violence agreed with the statement (Current Directions in Psychological Science, vol 5, p 2).

Mate value

Buss thinks that future studies will further support the link. He predicts that domestic violence will be more likely when a man has a female partner of higher "mate value" – a woman who earns more, is more intelligent or is considered more physically attractive than him. He says men in such circumstances may resort to violence to deter the woman from straying, or else to reduce her own perception of her value by lowering her self-esteem.

"Buss's hypotheses are certainly plausible," says biologist Barbara Tschirren at the University of Zurich in Switzerland. "We know from studies in animals that conflicts among family members are ubiquitous."

But Heather Douglas at the University of Queensland in St Lucia, Brisbane, Australia, who researches the effects of criminal law on women, is less convinced. "There seem to be lots of assumptions inherent in the theory. For example, that couples are focused on having children, that couples are heterosexual, that women are attracted primarily to men who will provide," she says. "We know that intimate partner violence goes outside of these categories."

Robert Brooks, an evolutionary biologist at the University of New South Wales in Sydney, Australia, thinks that research on such a sensitive subject is always likely to be controversial. "For many people, saying something might have been adaptive in the past is difficult to separate out from saying it is good or right or natural," he says. "But we are the product of the traits that made our ancestors good at reproducing, including many quite abhorrent traits."

Buss says that a greater understanding of the causes of domestic violence could help to identify those at risk and provide better protection. Brooks says that if he is right "then [research] like this is worthwhile".

I love how the feminist quoted says something so stupid and irrelevant that her opposition is completely harmless. "Oh yeah, well what about gay people?!"
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Domestic Violence Gets Evolutionary Explanation

Have you looked into female motivations for staying with men who abuse them? That's a more fascinating discussion, and one where feminists and men's Riggs advocates would disagree the most.

Possible explanations include a desire for a man who is dominant enough to protect their child...

Or, the "sexy sons," hypothesis (credit Geoffrey miller) that she wants the genes from the guy who hits her because the sons that she has from that guy will inherit the unstable, violent genes that will also make him dominate other men and succeed in reproduction.

Roissy has a good blog post today
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/10/0...ain/#entry

On how nice guys don't get looked at sexually...I'm sure there must be a connection between women liking dominant guys (often described as asshole) and women staying with abusive men.
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Domestic Violence Gets Evolutionary Explanation

Sean Connery aside, most of the people in realtionships where domestic violence is commonplace are low rent. Moving up the scale women still need their kicks (displays of dominance from men), but usually in more subliminated ways.

I remember living for some time near a very poor rural community. In that community if a husband or long-term boyfriend did NOT beat his partner it was considered unusual. Only when a hospital visit was required did anyone so much as raise an eyebrow. To a woman the "victims" would all say practically the same thing after a particularly severe beating: "It means that he wants me". Her injuries were a mark of pride to show other women that her man (still) desired her.

I hate to sound cruel, since occasionally someone was severely injured, but I found it pretty amusing. Humans are facsinating creatures.
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Domestic Violence Gets Evolutionary Explanation

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Sean Connery aside, most of the people in realtionships where domestic violence is commonplace are low rent. Moving up the scale women still need their kicks (displays of dominance from men), but usually in more subliminated ways.[quote]

But do higher class women respond worse to domestic abuse, or are their men less willing to do it? The latter is definitely the case. As for the former, I don't know.

[quote]I remember living for some time near a very poor rural community. In that community if a husband or long-term boyfriend did NOT beat his partner it was considered unusual. Only when a hospital visit was required did anyone so much as raise an eyebrow. To a woman the "victims" would all say practically the same thing after a particularly severe beating: "It means that he wants me". Her injuries were a mark of pride to show other women that her man (still) desired her.

I hate to sound cruel, since occasionally someone was severely injured, but I found it pretty amusing. Humans are facsinating creatures.
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Was that in America? White or black?

The movie A Streetcar Named Desire was a real eye opener for me. It puts in doubt the notion that women in the past, pre-sexual revolution, had finer tastes in men. That film made Marlon Brando possibly *the* sex icon of the times, and he was an animalistic, violent, abusive force of nature in it. The sex icons of today are far far tamer.
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Domestic Violence Gets Evolutionary Explanation

Quote: (10-05-2011 02:12 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

But do higher class women respond worse to domestic abuse, or are their men less willing to do it? The latter is definitely the case. As for the former, I don't know.

Was that in America? White or black?

Interesting question. Probably a bit of both. Of course if we hadn't moved on, at least a little, we wouldn't have the computers, internet etc. to be able to ask the questions. The community I spoke of were definitely not about to come up with these things. They had far more basic issues to contend with.

No, not in America, though I reckon a situation much like this may have existed there in very poor communities before general prosperity and the extension of the rule of (family) law to all/most people occured. It was a rural African community in Africa.
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Domestic Violence Gets Evolutionary Explanation

Quote: (10-05-2011 02:12 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

The movie A Streetcar Named Desire was a real eye opener for me. It puts in doubt the notion that women in the past, pre-sexual revolution, had finer tastes in men. That film made Marlon Brando possibly *the* sex icon of the times, and he was an animalistic, violent, abusive force of nature in it. The sex icons of today are far far tamer.

One of the best examples of alpha behaviour on film. Great viewing for body language cues.

"A flower can not remain in bloom for years, but a garden can be cultivated to bloom throughout seasons and years." - xsplat
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