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Day gaming FOB girls in Melbourne/Sydney
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Day gaming FOB girls in Melbourne/Sydney

I'm based in Melbourne, but I guess knowledge shared in this thread will equally apply to Sydney as well, hence the title. With the recent consensus highlighting the fact that Sydney is more asian than white, and I'm pretty sure Melbourne isn't far behind either, it makes sense to tap into the FOB chicks that travel over here by the thousands for holidays, study etc.

I'm new in Melbourne, and came here from London to work. So far I've applied a few routes to meet these girls. Started of with the Chinese FOBs, as they are the majority.

Route#1: Started learning Chinese and finding girls online for conversation exchange.
Results: Have been doing this for the past 2 months. Met 5 girls, 2 preferred to keep it just online, 3 met in person. One of them seemed to be only interested in the actual exchange as she wanted to improve her English. The rest of the 2 were super curious about me and were trying to go out and eat with me, but I didn't find them attractive at all so didn't pursue.

Route#2: Joined a university club meant for social language exchange
Results: Even though I don't study at the said university, they still allowed me to join them. Club is full of fobs wanting to practice English in a social environment, so I immediately had value to offer as a native speaker. Problem is, it's a very small group of people with about 20 active members, with girls in majority. Gaming any of them could spread the word throughout the group instantly. You might argue that I should go for it regardless, but the ROI on the effort involved isn't compelling enough for me. Though I did chatted with one of the girls outside the usual group meetings, only to find out that she had a boyfriend.

Route#3: Tantan - A Chinese version of Tinder
Results: While I've read about the bang counts obtained from this app in China, I'm a bit confused as to why it doesn't work the same way over here. After signing up and putting together a decent profile with a bit of Mandarin sprinkled here and there, I left it for about 5 days. When I logged in again, it showed that I've been liked by 53 people. Didn't exactly match with the counts reported when this app is used in China, so I spoofed my location to Shanghai and left it there for 2 days. Logged back in and my count bumped up from 53 to 192!! Which at-least proves the reports from China. Not only that, most girls were initiating by sending greetings in Chinese. Anyway, after swiping right to the ones who are living here in Melbourne, I got about 40 matches. Didn't exactly know how to initiate the conversation with them, as I'm sure my usual openers in English wouldn't make much sense to them. So I opened with a mix of English and Chinese greetings. If anyone here have a good success rate with any openers on Tantan, then please share. Out of the 40, about 25 replied. Most conversations were one sided so I dropped out of them. Carried conversations with 9 of them to WeChat. Out of which I've met only 4, the rest gave excuses or were too busy (flaking off). The four I did manage to meet, I banged 1 of them on the same night we met, though she was one of those clubbing chicks so it wasn't really a challenge to bed her. I banged another one on the second date, but she clearly stated that she is a stage 5 clinger. I wasn't up for that so ended it after that. For the other 2, one is interested but on a vacation back home. I've met her twice, but she was super shy so didn't make a move. I'm meeting up with the last one this Thursday for drinks.

So all of this in about 3 months time. It'd be great if others here can share their experiences picking FOBs up as well as their tricks of the trade. I get this feeling that I should be able to do alot better than this, given that the popular opinion is that FOBs are easy to game.

Also, I'm really keen on day and night gaming as well, as I haven't done that over here in Melbourne, mostly due to time and social circle constraints. Also, I don't exactly know which spots would have a good success rate. I've read through the Melbourne data sheet posted here earlier, but it covers game venues in general.

Also, feel free to hit me up if you're looking for wings for day or night game. Cheers.
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Day gaming FOB girls in Melbourne/Sydney

Yeah Sydney has Chinese girls everywhere too.. you can't walk around the CBD without being surrounded by FOBs.

Sometimes they even look pretty so in those instances I open them. For girls from overseas I use indirect openers because I figured that their cat would get scared easily. Whereas with Euro girls and locals I can go a bit more direct.

Try daygame mate. With a bit of practise you could clean up. You probably don't even need to learn Mandarin since so many of the girls move here for study and can speak English well.

Social circle / clubs etc seems like a lot of work really. You could get access to quality women but who has the patience for that when daygame can give you 5 - 10 phone numbers a day?
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Day gaming FOB girls in Melbourne/Sydney

Quote: (08-18-2018 02:28 AM)don_quixote Wrote:  

Yeah Sydney has Chinese girls everywhere too.. you can't walk around the CBD without being surrounded by FOBs.

Sometimes they even look pretty so in those instances I open them. For girls from overseas I use indirect openers because I figured that their cat would get scared easily. Whereas with Euro girls and locals I can go a bit more direct.

Try daygame mate. With a bit of practise you could clean up. You probably don't even need to learn Mandarin since so many of the girls move here for study and can speak English well.

Social circle / clubs etc seems like a lot of work really. You could get access to quality women but who has the patience for that when daygame can give you 5 - 10 phone numbers a day?

I see. And by indirect openers, I'm assuming the usual, like something they are wearing or eating. What about comfort level? How much time on average do you spend building comfort with them? Given that a total stranger is approaching them in public, they are going to get scared or atleast cautious.
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Day gaming FOB girls in Melbourne/Sydney

A few observations from a lot of US FOB experience.

1. I think learning the languages just for pickup might be a waste of time, largely because many of the girls who came to your country are already open/receptive to dating someone from that country. In fact, that may be the reason why they left. If you're going to learn a language, I would do so based on finding some kind of very target rich environment. I would learn whatever language you like most instead, but if they have come to your country, they are sort of pre-qualified.

2. They really seem to have a strong online presence. My roommate is an immigrant (9 years in the US) and she has a ton of FOB friends. They all have online dating profiles. This is the case where online gives them time to overcome their poor english language skills and allows you to connect with them more.

3. While all women like being led, FOBs are particularly responsive to it. They are in a foreign country and have no idea where a lot of cool places are-- showing them new places that you know well asserts yourself as both a credible man and as valuable (since you know about all of these places). Escalate to physical touch faster than you normally would and make sure your first date is a hike or something outdoorsy that justifies getting handsy. Occasionally take their hand and guide them a direction. These women are also tired of more passive men. Also, if you establish from the start that you are physically forward, they may just assume it's a cultural thing and be more accepting of it.

4. Communication is critical. Make her feel comfortable and good about her English and it will do wonders. Get really good at understanding accents and slightly broken English. Honestly, I think it requires a lot of intelligence to communicate with a foreigner, since you have to read what they are trying to say with a limited vocabulary, and you have to tone down yours to their level, without coming across like an idiot. Patience is also vital. Explaining things carefully and confidently wins points.

5. Highly recommend taking her to non-Asian restaurants. Also cooking a more western meal is a good idea for date two or three (whenever you're ready to go for the bang).

6. They like sweet mixed drinks. Order them a cosmo. Few have a taste for wine, but if so, cold white goes better than red. I personally drink red and just kind of have them drink it anyways, but that's after we've had sex. Before, I think cosmos, mojitos, or other fruity girly drinks are clutch. Also, the "good" girls among them will have a ridiculously low tolerance. We're talking, one or two drinks and they are toast. So, make sure not to get them hammered. I have let a near full pitcher of margaritas get left on the table because I did not want the girl to get too drunk.

7. Comfort is important but do not be too beta. They will still shit test and you need to let them know you are different from other men that they can walk on. At the same time, you need to show that you are a provider and can take care of them. Make sure to maintain your frame and not fall into theirs. That is part of why I pick non-Asian restaurants.
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Day gaming FOB girls in Melbourne/Sydney

OP, what's your background, style, vibe etc.?

And, why are you restricting yourself to one niche like this?

There are more ways to offer value than language practice.
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Day gaming FOB girls in Melbourne/Sydney

Quote: (08-18-2018 03:33 AM)Ace635 Wrote:  

I see. And by indirect openers, I'm assuming the usual, like something they are wearing or eating. What about comfort level? How much time on average do you spend building comfort with them? Given that a total stranger is approaching them in public, they are going to get scared or atleast cautious.

Yeah situational openers FTW. If you pick something she's wearing it's a great excuse to start a conversation. Then talk fashion for a while and drop the big bait a-la Day Bang.

I always talk as long as possible. It's not unusual to have a girl hang around for 30 minutes chatting about all sorts of stuff. If she's single and even a bit interested in sex then she'll become more receptive or excited after a while. (Some are YES or NO right from the start, obviously).

If you keep it low key and stick away from cat scaring behaviour like front stops then they are less likely to be scared.
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